Friday, March 29, 2024

Ramsey set for third spell on sidelines

According to various reports, Aaron Ramsey looks set to spend another four weeks on the sidelines after picking up a third hamstring injury of the campaign.

The Welsh international was a second half substitute in the 2-1 win over Leicester City but lasted only nine minutes before being replaced by Mathieu Flamini.

The 24-year-old has endured a frustrating eight months at the Emirates having already broken down with hamstring problems in late September and early December. He’d previously picked up an ankle injury on 9 September playing for Wales on Andorra’s artificial pitch.

Ramsey has managed a fairly respectable 26 appearances in total this season, although it’s pretty obvious he’s struggled to match the form that saw him crowned the Gunners’ player of the season back in June.

Speaking about the injury last night, Wenger said: “It doesn’t look good when a guy stops straight away and sits down.

“I left him out [of the starting lineup] to be cautious with him. I put him on and it was not the best of decisions. I can’t say it’s not a worry because after a while, the player cannot play with a free mind. He’s not over-played. I don’t know why this is.”

Strangely, unlike many in the Arsenal squad, Ramsey actually ‘benefited’ from a full pre-season.

In better news, it sounds as though the roughhouse treatment sustained by Alexis Sanchez last night won’t keep him sidelined when Boro come to town on Sunday.

The Chile international, back in the starting lineup after missing games against Villa and Sp*rs, couldn’t shake off a first half knock after several heavy tackles and was replaced by Olivier Giroud with 22 minutes remaining.

He tweeted last night that “sometimes the love for the game and anxiety to be on a football pitch works against you”.

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gooner for liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife

Its hard to get your top form back when you cant get a decent run of games, get well soon, and for good aaron.

Yorkshire gunner

Thought we were past this shit

Asheville Gooner

Hard to get past the leg break that will always affect Ramsey. Like Wilshere and Diaby, a serious leg injury can impact health and fitness in the long run.

Bould's Eyeliner

Didn’t look that way last season – I understand that there can be stigma/trauma with a serious injury, but you don’t run extra km/match, every match, go for several months on a goal scoring rampage, and score the game-winning goal to bring in the first Arsenal trophy in years, with a fear of leg injury.

I think Wenger is being entirely straightforward and honest when he claims he has no fucking clue what’s up with Ramsey.

timmeh

bollocks…hamstrings are due to insufficent warm up or poor training and then stretching it on the pitch where the tempo and rhythm gets faster and more intense

nothing to do with broken bones…..

gm

it’s the beard. It’s just bad luck.

John

I know our injury record is beyond ‘bad luck’ but you do have to feel for the players and the manager sometimes. Just cannot catch a break. When was the last time Arsene got to say ‘we have a full squad’ in a pre match presser?

Gargoyle

Yeah, Ramsey steps on the pitch, makes a few passes and gets injured. Surely this doesn’t just come out of nowhere. And Alexis was allowed to continue and play 40 minutes with a damaged knee because ‘he said he was ok to continue’. What the fuck is that?! We seem to have trouble identifying problems in players before they do some serious damage. There is no way Aaron felt normal right before his injury. It’s just a matter of identifying these small symptoms. Bottom line is, we need to educate our players better so they can know their bodies in… Read more »

Tommy Gunner

One thing that I have always found a bit odd about professional football is this: Before the game, the starting 11 get a proper warmup led by a specialist coach for around 30 minutes. The cones come out, hurdles etc, everything is minutely managed. Yet substitutes wonder around the side of the pitch aimlessly for 30 minutes, occasionally doing a light jog and a few stretches, and the management turn a completely blind eye to what they are up to. Just a thought, but in the modern age when athletes are so finely tuned, why are substitutes not getting supervised… Read more »

Yorkshire Gunner

Funny you said that. I thought exactly the same thing when they were warming up in front of me which looked half hearted to say the least. Why don’t they allocate a physio to lead the subs warm up on the touch line to ensure they are stretching correctly or following a player specific warm up routine?

Bould's Eyeliner

Or better yet, why don’t they just all warm up together, it’s not like it matters how many people are on the pitch pre-match.

Mesut

Not to mention players (not just from Arsenal) being subbed off and sitting straight down to watch? I have to warm down or I get heaps sore, and I live in bloody Australia, not London in winter. I thought a proper warm down would be crucial?

Stillmatic

Sorry to copy and paste, but rather than repeat myself, I’m just gonna c&p my post from the other older Ramsey news post…. In regards to Ramsey, I think we’re focusing on the wrong statement of Wenger. This is the biggest issue imo “He’s not overplayed. Before I never looked at him, I just played him in every game but since he’s had these problems I’m a bit more cautious with him.” “I just played him in every game…..” till he got injured. Have we not seen this reactive attitude to injury fro, Wenger one too many times? Whereby he’ll… Read more »

Stillmatic

We can also see the exact same thing with Sanchez this season (not counting the injury from yesterday, nothing can be done about that. Rather, his own muscular injury).

bacary's right leg

I don’t agree with that hazard has pretty much played every game for Chelsea he’s fine. If your best players are fit you play them. Chelsea have used a very small pool of players this year. As did Liverpool the year before.

Stillmatic

Chelsea have the best medical team in the country. See how they completely managed that cunt Costa. Could you ever see us doing that?

I’m sure people will disagree, but 9 years of repeatable history and injury rates at arsenal adds to my case.

Gargoyle

Like when Giroud returned a month earlier you mean? But, I have an issue with Wenger overplaying players as well. It annoys the fuck out of me. Also I couldn’t help but think that when these players see what’s happening to them, and they look at players at other clubs, they might get suspicious of our training methods and the managers thinking.

GoonTang

I’m surprised they don’t have a much worse injury record considering who they have as a physio.

Gus Caesar

Injuries happen. Such is life. Can we all just move on without this thread being filled with a bunch hysterical clowns pretending to be experts in biomechanics or what the club does or does not do behind closed doors?

Si in Galway

If we picked up a statistically average amount of injuries, then, yes. But since we’ve been in the running for the top spot in the injury league for the past howevermany seasons, it’s not unreasonable to keep banging on about this subject until it’s sorted. Same as we do with everything! What else are we gonna do, work?!

Gus Caesar

You can “bang on” about it all you like, just don’t try to profess that you know the reasons or that the club is at fault.

Stillmatic

Better than you just digging your head in the sand and blaming the “injury gods” and then just say “injuries just happen” in the face of overwhelming evidence.
At least we actually acknowledge there is a problem, regardless of what the cause may be. You’re in bloody denial.

I mean…. Costa went into the season for Chelsea WITH a hamstring injury, and Ramsey was one of the few that completed pre-season. Yet the latter has completed less games due to more hamstring strains?

Keep that head deep in that sand mate.

Gargoyle

Interesting. Would be nice to know the distance they covered during those games though. That’s the key stat, I think, but I can’t seem to find it.

Gus Caesar

If you actually read my comment, I didn’t say that there aren’t injuries or that there might be an underlying problem. I implied that for once it would be nice if idiots such as you didn’t hysterically overreact without actually having a clue about what’s gone on. I can see that it hit a raw nerve for you.

SB

You maybe right about hysterical clowns pretending to know it all.

However Wenger has himself called it out as a problem and something the club is trying to get a handle on (positive moves with new recruits and for a change players coming back early).

We are not sitting pretty with a 7 point gap to the rest and it’s common observation that injuries had played part in our current position.

Hence,the hysteria when yet another injury occurs!

Gus Caesar

Not saying there isn’t something odd about the number of injuries we have. Just saying that there are too many idiots who know nothing about what the real reasons are but claim that they do.

The other thing is that Arsenal have employed experts who have undertaken and completed a number of top-to-bottom assessments and they have not identified any root cause of Arsenal’s making behind the injuries. Why is someone with too much spare time behind a computer is going to know better? We’re all frustrated, that doesn’t immediately translate into medical expert.

Stillmatic

Some of us are experts in our fields (PS: Biomechanics isn’t the only discipline, let alone even the most important one, that is needed for sports medical science).

True Red

I’m a farmer. That makes me an expert in my field

Arsepedant

So, Stillmatic, you are an expert in the sports medicine field. Good. You can probably give us a better picture of what’s wrong with Arsenal’s situation than most of the other posters on here. Therefore, could you please tell us: 1. Which Arsenal players have you physically examined? 2. Which Arsenal players’ treatment and training regimes you have supervised? 3. What specific practices are followed by the current Arsenal training and medical staff? 4. What specific changes must be made in order for Arsenal players to suffer fewer injuries? Please provide details, not just “something’s gotta be done” or “you’re… Read more »

meletios

So I am guessing you never comment without verifiable tangible proof is it..will keep that in mind then..

Gus Caesar

Heh.

meletios

Next you will asking posters not to fill the thread with team or player related comments since 99.99% of us are not football mangers or experts or players themselves ..

timmeh

oh you can have your stupid opinion all you want …just keep it for yourself and dont pretend you have real and actual knowledge, cause you dont

if its frustration that makes you talk such shit then stay out of football or arsenal till we start winnign things again like the vieiras henrys etc….

if you want to come and talk shit on arsenal, players, managers, tactics whatever then you need to grow up and accpet that your hysterical opinions will not only get laughed at but mocked and ridiculed.

pungi

You seem to think you are speaking for everyone here but you are not really; Okaayyy so please pipe your arse down preferably on a bed of ice… Also I see you did a bit of clairvoyance there , seeing that you already know why I do the things I do including my reason behind commenting on this site… amazing… I cant see why I should any of the things you have requested seeing that you don’t own the website plus this site is for posters like me to comment anyway….did that obvious fact escape you.. I wont be surprised… Read more »

pungi

Please note I had to use a different alias as for some reason my comments under my ‘meletios’ id always get blocked/or go under moderation from my office..
Hopefully folks dont mind.

Gus Caesar

Welcome to your opinion, everyone on here is. I just think there’s a huge jump that people make between Arsenal getting a lot of injuries and it necessarily being a systemic problem of the club’s own making. You’d need to either have a lot of inside information or a doctorate in medicine to get anywhere close to being able to reach an evidence-based conclusion like that. Of course, we all know that no one on here really has either, we’re all just pissing in the wind with the little information we have. But it fits with people’s negative agenda to… Read more »

Si in Galway

“it sounds as though the roughhouse treatment sustained by Alexis Sanchez last night won’t keep him sidelined when Boro come to town on Sunday”

Great news if true, but the remaining sentences/paragraphs don’t allude to anything of the sort. Have you got more info Blogs? Or anyone?

ThurrkeyOnrye

injury gods seem to always keep us in check.

“Oh, Wilshere back in training?” Off goes Aaron.

Wasn’t Diaby enough?!

Geefive

Merriam-Webster.com: Dictionary and Thesaurus
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
Diaby – “dee-Ah-bee” – personification of being crocked.
ie:
noun: At this rate, is Ramsey becoming the next Diaby?
transitive verb: “Jack was quoted as saying he’s been diaby-ed for the last 3 months”
abstract noun: The diabyfication of the Arsenal team is extremely frustrating.

Thisisme

The fact his hamstring went just after coming on would indicate he didn’t warm up correctly… you cant blame the manager for that. If it was me i’d blame myself.

Stillmatic

It doesn’t work like that.

Arsepedant

Please elaborate.

Gus Caesar

It *could* work like that; it’s a proven medical fact that people are more prone to muscular injuries if overexerting when the muscle is cold. Of course none of us have a clue whether it was the case or not but it’s a decent educated guess from ‘Thisisme’, certainly better than you just burying your head in the sand and just jumping to the conclusion that best fits with your agenda.

Coq-head

There is definetly something wrong with the medical department, but what could it be?

Neil #2

I have the sense that it’s probably more complicated — injuries, as I surmise, might be due to a)Arsenal being a smaller team (average height/weight) focusing on passing game that attracts hard challenges b)some complicated combination of training regimes – physio & recovery program – and medical diagnosis/staff.

Liverpool had this issue a few years back and revamped things somewhat decisively; I hope that Arsenal can do the same.

This is one table that I’d be very happy not to be in the top four in again: http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php

santori

I didn’t think he was particularly poor coming on contrary to what some have been saying.

But it hasn’t helped that he has been stop and start this season.

Hope it isn’t as serious as it looks.

We also need Jack back.

Rosicky should deputise in the link role meanwhile or Ox.

santori

Spurs. One word.

Balotelli

santori

Whoever signed Balotelli is quite obviously a genius.;)

2 and a half days above us and they were gloating again. Spur of the (very short)moment.

RamBro

Seriously beginning to wonder whether my Ramsey jersey from Christmas 2013 is cursed; remember, he got injured last campaign on Boxing Day and also I was wearing it yesterday amongst others… open to suggestions towards a solution, already tried garlic.

CB

Don’t wear the shirt?

Why do you ask my name? It is beyond understanding

My cousin is a pagan Druid and she says there’s only one antidote to that sort of curse. You will need to soak your scrotum in paint stripper for a week. Good luck mate.

Heh!

Iamsterdamgooner

Off topic; I never really understood the michael owen hate here lol but I moved from Holland to UK while ago so basically knew him only from his football. Anyway, needed tv and BT seemed quite reasonable to me. What you know, BT sports free. Since then man, I totally understand what you guys are talkin about. Now he annoys the fuck outta me! Just saw his face pop up there and the urge to vent my feeling was to strong.

Oh yeah, f*ck Piers Morgan too!

But I fucking love the Arsenal tho! COYG!

fuhgedaboudit

Does anybody ever consider the possibility that some players are injury prone?

Fireman Sam

Yes but then why would such players be statistically more likely to end up at Arsenal?

GunnerDareMacedonia

With ramsey injury i can’t help but think if diaby was fit a ready to come in to play, what a powerful combo would be with him and coq in midfield, only if he was fit.

Man Manny

His desire to do well for this club is stronger than the injuries trying to hinder him.
I see one winner – Aaron Ramsey; you shall come back stronger. Keep the faith.

Man

This feels a bit harsh but i’m going to throw it out ther anyway. Does anyone see think we are feeling the effects of players who the guv’nor has overplayed (red zone action) in the past. I’m thinking wilshere circa 2011 and Rambo last season. Please not Sanchez now.

Little Mozart

I’m missing you already, Rambo. I hope the medical staff get to the bottom of this once and for all.

Another fucking headache for Arsène too.

CoqandBalls

Another damn injury is that last thing we need. Although Rambo has been pretty much garbage all year, we could still use him the rest of the season

Feeder Club No More

Welsh Jesus we are praying you can return for us and score the winner again as we lift the FA Cup!@@! COYG… We’ve got a Coq!

God is Bergkamp, Bergkamp is God

Remember when Shad Forsythe came and we thought that was the golden ticket? God, that was a long time ago. In all honesty, there seems to be one commmon factor with these injuries: the preparation of the player and conditioning. We see Giroud go out with a somewhat serious leg injury and come back before schedule earlier this season (his work ethic is probably only beat by Alexis from what you hear), or with Ozil lifting and building up himself and showing solid form quickly. We need to understand that once the player’s injury is “healed”, he isn’t necessarily ready… Read more »

AJ

Guys, i have decided i will not complain about injuries and referees decision from now on.. If i see a two footed tackle on alexis sanchez and the referee books alexis for diving..i will keep quiet and come here to read others complaining

CoqandBalls

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