Cech: I should have done better

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Petr Cech admits he shouldn’t have been caught out for Bournemouth’s equaliser on Sunday after Callum Wilson managed to steal in front of him to convert Ryan Fraser’s cross.

The veteran keeper made the decision to go for the ball as it zipped to the penalty spot when in hindsight, he really should have stayed on his line. The goal proved to be the catalyst for an unlikely Cherries comeback as Jordan Ibe converted just four minutes later to secure a 2-1 win. 

After the game, Cech accepted his part in yet another awful away day for the Gunners.

“Obviously, the first one I’m disappointed with because I thought I was going to cut the cross on time,” Cech told the Arsenal website.

“Wilson arrived faster in front of me. It’s a matter of split seconds, but I think I should have done better on that.

“The second one had an element of luck,” Cech added. “It was a good long ball behind but it was everybody’s ball and it fell right in front of the player and he managed to shoot it very hard and squeeze it through my body.

“In that one, we were a bit unlucky. They rode their luck, they worked very hard all day and in the end, they got a big reward.”

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Alphie
Alphie

New keeper please

IamaGoober

You cant really put the dropped points down to a mistake from Cech. As much as I admit that he is definitely not the same keeper that he was when at Chelsea, but he has definitely kept us in games we had no right to be in this season with some fine stops.

So its difficult to really say, that yes, Cech, we lost that game because of your performance. He’s made one mistake in a game where our whole team made countless errors. So it would be too harsh to pin it on him.

It was a huge oversight from the club to let Wojech go to Juventus, because if Juve think he is good enough to take over from Buffon, chances are, he is probably a pretty decent keeper.

So thats part of the problem, Wojech should be back here pushing Cech for a starting place every game. Just anything other than this quite frankly ludicrous set up where Ospina plays a few cup games, then Cech does.

gooner
gooner

Backup keepers play the cup games everywhere across Europe. At the top clubs at least. Barcelona won the champions league and their first choice keeper missed out on a medal because he hadn’t played a minute of the competition.

This whole thing of Szcz being here pushing Cech is fantasy. Goalkeepers don’t get subbed on 80 minutes so it’d be either Cech or Szcz but not both. That’s how we got Cech in the first place. Sadly Chelsea trusted the guy with over 10 years left in him and us we did the opposite

Easy tiger
Easy tiger

He has been wengerised.

Ivan Parasite
Ivan Parasite

Afraid that will happen to Lacazette too. Wankerised.

Cagooner
Cagooner

New manager please. Everything else is irrelevant until that happens. Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

To Hull And Back
To Hull And Back

What about that Wojciech Szczęsny who plays for Juventus, I hear he’s a decent keeper………….

twisted cuntloks
twisted cuntloks

I don’t think a top keeper like that would be interested in coming here oh

Pete
Pete

Szczesny was a clown at Arsenal. The professional environment and superior coaching at Juve has no doubt improved him. If he was still at Arsenal, he’d still be a clown, Wenger permits it.

assistantref
assistantref

Szcz was the best keeper in Serie A when playing for Roma (yes, better than Buffon or Donnarumma), that’s why Juve signed him. That we let him go for peanuts was criminally stupid.

EZD
EZD

Sounds like Szczesny is impressing at Juventus already, filling in for injured Buffon. Reading this makes me so upset he’s gone:

https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2018/1/14/16858994/juventus-gianluigi-buffon-wojciech-szczesny-2018-serie-a-champions-league

V is for Vic Akers
V is for Vic Akers

Who would have thought selling an international keeper who came to the club age 16 with 250 appearances by age 27 for 10 million would turn out to be bad business.

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

Everyone but Arsene Wenger.

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

I was replying to V is for Vic Akers above.

Ozenal
Ozenal

Sometimes it takes a move away from the nurturing club to mature a player who tried to get away with smoking.

lessthanthesumoftheirparts
lessthanthesumoftheirparts

So getting married and starting every game in Rome for two years doesn’t count as maturing? Cummon seriously, he, over any one else in recent memory deserved a second chance in my opinion.

Voldermort
Voldermort

and iwobi gets in trouble and his rewarded with a start the following game ? double standards all over the place at this club

Chippys chip
Chippys chip

Should feck off with wenger pet, ya both past it and take kroenke with yous. FECK OFF WENGER AND FECK OFF KROENKE JUST FECK OFF RIGHT OFF

Chippys chip
Chippys chip

Haha fickle feckers

Espen
Espen

Definitely need a new gk next season. The decline is inevitable.

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Personally would have been happy to keep our old one…but we sold him in the summer.

clins
clins

atleast cech is admitting his mistakes . that in itself makes him a better proffessional than wenger ever has been who never admits an wrong and constantly moans against opposition players diving schedule and referees.

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

I’ve worked it out: Kroenke is a Spurs fan!

COYG
COYG

Takes one to know one?

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

How dare you?!!!

Badaab
Badaab

Kroenke is only a fan of money.

assistantref
assistantref

He’s definitely a cunt.

Red-Wing
Red-Wing

“In that one, we were a bit unlucky. They rode their luck, they worked very hard all day and in the end, they got a big reward.”

Unlucky? Rode their luck?

We were shambolic and they fought for every ball. Even after going 2-1 up, they immediately pressed us high up the pitch and wanted to score another one.

Toure+motors
Toure+motors

Exactly, i mean how in the holy name of blue fuck can a hard working team ride their luck? This kind of Bullshit statement drives me insane! Tell me again why did we sell buffons replacement for 10m? Surely a sensible logical move would’ve been to keep schezny and sell ospina

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Logical & The Arsenal (*The AW) don’t seem to mix well these days for some reason.

260589
260589

Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity. I feel that with this side, there is a distinct lack of preparation. #COYG

Jame5
Jame5

Agreed we didn’t look much like scoring again. If you can’t score again you won’t win games

Goonerink
Goonerink

he’s right he should have done better… but then so should have 9 other players….

gooner
gooner

I know Jack had a good game but what more could Lacazette and Hector do?

It was a piss poor game but the narrative that only Jack played well is overplayed at times. AL9 could have had two assists in each half but sadly one was for Welbeck and the other saw Iwobi somehow beaten to the ball in the box.

Pete
Pete

Wilshere is pretty ineffective. Plenty of effort and nice touches but very little end product, and there never has been much end product from him. He wouldn’t get in a team that was challenging for the title.

kaius
kaius

Huge respect for the way he’s battled back to form and fitness but I have to agree. The test isn’t “can Wilshere play 90mins for 8-10 games in a row”, it’s “can Wilshere form part of a title-winning midfield over 38 games”.

Cazorla needed Coquelin next to him to show us his best form. Think Wilshere needs a similar player because the Xhaka partnership is bad on paper and even worse on the pitch.

Atom
Atom

I genuinely feel bad for Cech. He wins literally everything there is to win at Chelsea before being forced out (not a bad decision on their part). We have the dumb luck of getting a top class keeper simply b/c he doesn’t want to leave London for family reasons. He seems like a great guy as well. Thanks to Wenger’s misguided loyalty to an error prone backup (Ospina) Cech has had to sit on the bench for the FA Cup finals – the only real competition we’ve had any shot at winning since he joined. Instead of challenging for the CL with PSG or playing top flight football in Italy etc, he’s playing in a team that’s literally collapsing with a defense that offers him no protection.

AJD
AJD

He’s been winning the financial fair play league with us for a few years on the trot

Vonnie
Vonnie

He’s had some howlers himself and isn’t nearly as good as he was even two seasons ago. He isn’t good enough any more to be playing for clubs like PSG and we managed three FA cups without him. Also Ospina isn’t nearly as bad as some like to make out and when he did get a run in the side he had better stats than Szczeny or Cech, who is never dropped even when he passes the ball straight to Fabregas and doesn’t even apologise. He’s just another one who’s far too comfortable, and our goalkeeping coaching seems to be as useless as all the other coaching.

Atom
Atom

Honestly any keeper would look crap in this team

atom
atom

Ospina makes a few great saves but also gifts a goal to the other team almost every time he plays. the total lack of interest in him when he wanted to leave this summer should tell you all you need to know about him

Percy
Percy

Stats are irrelevant. Particularly when you comparing fa cup vs premier league

gooner
gooner

Can’t blame Ospina on Cech playing like
Enrique Hilario who was a hundred times worse a backup than David.

Fuhgedaboudit
Fuhgedaboudit

Makes the Szcesney sale more frustrating. Management really seems to not know what they are doing in so many ways.

ramgooner
ramgooner

Lots of people slating Cech but he kept us in the game vs Chelsea. To be fair to him he saved us from going down many times this season. Also, to those who complain about his penalty saving technique please go watch the Charity shield shoot out. He stood up when it mattered. I think he is capable of saving penalties on big occasions. Cech is a humble professional and a winner. We should be thankful we have him.
I don’t disagree with the fact that we might need another quality GK but no need to put down Cech for that. Let’s try not to hammer our players and manager at every opportunity. Just look at Liverpool fans and how they were against Man City. Liverpool have been shit for years but they stood by the team through the lows and they fully deserve what they are getting now. As a matter of fact our Europa league finish was down to a 1 point difference between us and Liverpool. We are not as bad as we are made out to be but we should do much much better. I blame the board.

David Hillier\'s luggage
David Hillier\'s luggage

Agree 100%, however Courtois blazed over and Morata hit the post so we cannot really give Cech credit there.

That being said, you right in that we need to stop hammering our players at every given opportunity. Its a problem in modern footballer generally, and makes me hate being football fan at times.

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Stuck on repeat...

Agree with you to a certain extent on the Liverpool aspect. The support they got yesterday was fantastic.

However, Liverpool changed manager when they weren’t performing. Liverpool are now buying players that strengthen their squad. Liverpool are selling talented players at a premium. Liverpool are going up the table. Liverpool (even if they had lost yesterday) gave City a run for their money & clearly had a game plan from the start.

That’s why there is the current difference in atmosphere…In the past, even in there darkest hours there was change & hope. Just don’t see that from the Arsenal at present.

ramgooner
ramgooner

It’s true that Liverpool have chopped and changed managers but they sacked the guy who was closest to winning the league in Rodgers. Their ex captain Steven Gerrard has never won the league.
They got lucky with Coutinho money as it was a consequence of Neymar to PSG. They conceded 2 goals despite being 4-1 up at home against City. They are as bad as us but the one thing I see in their fans is loyalty. That used to be our strong suit but from the outside it doesn’t look like it anymore.

caligunner
caligunner

I’m not disagreeing with you about Liverpool in general.

I just think we look at what is happening in the “now” moment. Right now they look great. They had a wonderful game yesterday even if they gave up 2 goals towards the end. PC was great business and the market lined up perfectly for them. What other players are they selling at a premium? Month ago or so there where stories or ideas of Klopp not being the answer. Not really improving. Game Plan? They do the same basic thing every game. They press the hell out of you. Yesterday the players did a great job and executed and smashed City. Not too many clubs can take it to City usually its everyone playing 11 behind the ball and trying to counter hard on them.

Right now they are on a roll.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Remind me, but did Liverpool stick with their poor performing manager(s) during those bad spells?

If the fans and board at Liverpool where like us, Rodgers would still be their manager.

Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese

Yeah, but at least we have a new stadium and balance the books and don’t literally kill players by buying new ones.

caligunner
caligunner

You can also argue that Liverpool over the years have made many mistakes on and off the pitch that has hurt the value of the club. If Liverpool had the right manager 20 years ago they could be bigger than Arsenal now. With all that history they have as a club.

SB Still
SB Still

Cech being the straight guy he is (I do think he needs to be replaced soon), has owned up to that one.

However, when are we ever going to learn to defend under Wenger (rhetorical)! For a guy who is so clever especially who has pretty much done it all on a football field, it’s surprising that is surprised by the goals we conceded yesterday!

Jack WilXhaka
Jack WilXhaka

Arsenal should buy Kasper Schmeichel from Leicester City. Cech is so past his sell-by date.

Lione
Lione

He is very poor from his first game in an Arsenal shirt

Lione12
Lione12

He is that bad. I don’t know if you all remember his first game he is very slow. Does not make important saves i mean look at De gea, Oblak, Ter stegen these are the kind of keepers who can win you a match. Every season we lose almost 20 points because of cech. I have had enough

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Stuck on repeat...

Meh. Coulda…woulda…shoulda…but yet didn’t…

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

Disagree, blogs. He (or maybe I should say a quality keeper) should’ve come out to get that ball. He’s just old, slow and lacking in agility, so didn’t get there quick enough.

I didn’t think he should’ve been signed in the first place and I think the decision to sell Szczesny when he is 5 years younger than Cech and “home grown” was gross incompetence. But there you go, what do I know?

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

You have not been a manager for over 1,000 games at this club, so apparently you are in no position to question the manager.

Apparently.

Ivan Parasite
Ivan Parasite

How about Moyes? Will reach his 200th managerial role in PL games soon. Apparently.

Donald\'s Trump
Donald\'s Trump

200 wins?

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

“The second one had an element of luck,” Cech added. “It was a good long ball behind”

If it came from a long ball, then it wasn’t luck, it was a strategy. A strategy that has been used against us over the years to a lot of success.

Lione12
Lione12

Bi

ronaldo
ronaldo

yes you should, I think its time for you to drop down to number two

Lione12
Lione12

Sincerely speaking i think he is one of the worst keepers out there now. I can give you countless situations he could have done better. I would rather we keep ospina in the goal post. At least it is very difficult to score him in one on one situations and is a lot faster. Amean look at vs lipool we did everything right to take the lead and this man just directed the ball to the net, he passed the ball to fabregas, even the liverpool first goal he should have come out early, last season vs aguero he was supposed to come out for the ball……amean its not there anymore nothing is working for him. Don’t tell me we wouldn’t be in a better place if we had someone like De gea. At times i don’t blame our coach and the outfield players but chech. “CHECH OUT”

Pakgooner
Pakgooner

Still trying to figure out who amean is 🙁

Atom
Atom

de gea is one of the best 4 or 5 keepers in the entire world – so of course we would be better with him. that’s like saying Ronaldo or messi would be an upgrade on Walcott. however even having a great keeper wouldn’t change the fact that
– kos looks like he’s close to finished as a top class center half. injuries are sapping his speed and that’s his biggest asset
– our backup plan is to play 2 center halves (holding & chambers) who are slow and have virtually no experience
– our central midfield consists of Xhaka who is too slow to defend or doesn’t care to (he’s not a DM), Ramsey who thinks he’s a center forward and Jack who for all his skills simply can’t tackle – he’s the 2nd coming of Scholes in that regard.
– and pretty much no one else thinks they have to defend

changing cech won’t change the fact that Wenger teams haven’t been able to defend in over a decade

caligunner
caligunner

Who are you going to have as backup CB? What experienced CB is going to come to a club to be a backup unless they are getting premium salary to do so?

Atom
Atom

well for starters we actually had one – Gabriel who has been pretty successful at Valencia.

caligunner
caligunner

I haven’t watched him play or do I care about watching Valencia or LaLiga games unless it involves one of the bigger clubs. I’ll just give him credit for being a starter at Valencia.

Do you watch Valencia play? I know they are one of the surprises of LaLiga this season or are you just going off the fact that he’s a starter or an occasional match report that gives him high ratings?

Last time I checked while he was here he was inconsistent at best. Obviously others can argue he was improving or he was actually good. The argument above wasn’t about having an inexperienced CB proving that he can play given the chance it was having experienced CB as backups.

Atom
Atom

but to be clear – wenger imo is the overarching problem at this point. you could have degea with bonnuci & boating in front of him and we would still leak goals. this has been going on for years – it’s just been hidden by the fact wenger teams have tended to score a lot.

caligunner
caligunner

You are right its been papered over by scoring goals over the last X amount of seasons. Now the rot of what is happening in goal and CB is finally showing with the lack of goals over the last couple of seasons.

I wouldn’t say if we had De Gea and JB and LB in front we would still leak goals like we are now lol For this season I would argue Cech is above average at best and only a healthy Kos is worthy X1. Mustafi for an experienced CB coming from LaLiga is horrible. He makes too many mistakes in my opinion to be a automatic X1. Monreal shouldn’t be playing CB but rotating with Kola at LWB.

CC and RH I have no problems with since they are young and growing and we will have to see if they have a future. Big gripe would be why Per? why not keep Gabriel it’s not like we used his transfer fee for another player smh.

Again you are right about this being AW problem. He wants full control of the squad he has to own it. All the micromanaging of the transfers over the last 5 seasons after the stadium debt is showing that part of the game is where we suffer the most.

Ivan Parasite
Ivan Parasite

Wenger said Cech still has 10 years in him. So no, no new keeper in his to do list for at least 7 years more. Hope that clarifies

Jonathan
Jonathan

Maybe we should go for whoever the goalkeeper coach is at Athletico Madrid, they’ve had some amazing goalkeepers of late, he would do a great job with Martinez.

Vonnie
Vonnie

Good point. Szczesney said he learned more in his first season at Roma than he did at Arsenal, and Emi Martinez has only just got a chance at Getafe, where he kept a clean sheet. I know we have a new goalkeeping coach but Peyton is still hanging around.

Arsenide
Arsenide

I miss Wojciech Szczęsny.

Jack
Jack

Is that you Djourou?

Pete
Pete

Because of the headgear etc. Cech is cowardly in those situation. These cheap rejects Wenger keeps buying will always let him down eventually.

DB10**
DB10**

Just simply get lost. Everyone can see he is no longer top of his game and yet keeps his place in the team season after season.

Homer
Homer

Cech joined arsenal in 2015.
He’s on his 3rd season. Ospina is clearly not as good. What on earth are you on about.

ronaldo
ronaldo

yes you should, I think its time for you to step down and be our number two

santori
santori

A litany of mistakes made in recent years :

1) Letting Szsc go to Juventus instead of giving him the number one role with Cech pushing. Considering Cech’s age and Ospina’s weakness with commanding the box, seemed logical but we hardly operate on logic these days. Pittance received for Szsc.

2) Letting Gabriel leave and entrusting faith in a pair of young defenders, neither of whom had yet to deliver on promise. Considering Gabriel was a fast improved player last season and experienced, again highly questionable decision.

3) Letting Gnabry leave instead of providing him first team assurances. Instead mollycoddlying the Ox and over indulging him instead of forcing him to put pen to paper when Gnabry was putting pressure. We lost both player in the end.

4) Selling our only natural tackler Coquelin instead of the mediocre Elneny. Sure we bagged a decent 12m for him but you wonder if we do not add in midfield, he is repeating the same mistake he did with the Cbacks entrusting younger players like AMN and maybe Willock to step up for us.

5) Not buying an additional attacking player last summer to cover for a potential looming Alexis (and Ozil) departure. Even with both our main creative forces, you feel the team is unbalanced toward the left and dependent on Bellerin to make up difference on right at detriment to defense on that flank. Mahrez was available.

The thinking has been particularly muddled.

In the past Wenger may have been able to get away with experimenting on youth, lesser known potentials or band aid purchases because at minimum we were still hitting top 4.

But as of last season, our grip on our minimum standard has been steadily slipping particularly with 4 to 5 teams able to add genuine quality and willing to spend and the rest of the league in recent decade catching up technically both bc they are willing to buy foreign management in and they are able to afford to shed their previous xenophobia for foreign players thanks to redistribution of TV money.

Our monopoly on foreign talent and technical players have been steadily eroded.

This coincided with Wenger’s obsession with the “British core”.

Currently we are at least one highly technical/creative player away from being even competitive in top 6. This is even with Ozil and Alexis. If we lose Alexis we will have to replace him but also look toward a upcoming short fall at CF when the much derided but frankly better than many imagine Giroud leaves.

Meanwhile if we do not add NOW, he is ploughing a deeper hole to fall into in the summer.

a)Prices will only go up again with many top end clubs with means to pay premium to reshuffle the pack and with FFP proven toothless last summer

b) If we do not make CL spot (possibility you would think), it will be that much more difficult to attract the right players in. We will be paying premium on band aid options.

c) World cup will again delay our purchases. We are never first to feast for good reason but it has consistently impacted our start to season at repeated detriment to our campaign and title hopes.

d) Some players like Mahrez and Draxler whom we may have some opportunity to convince at this point (We are still slightly more attractive than staying at Leicester and Draxler is surplus to use at PSG for now), may likely not be in same position in the summer.

e)With Ozil also ready to depart, it makes sense to deal with Alexis now (preferably to City but regardless to anyone for a reasonable minimum return) Waiting for the summer to lose both marquee players on a free will make rebuilding work so much harder. Adding TWO quality signings now to replace both Alexis and Walcott may yet convince Ozil to extend. It is a very thin sliver of hope but the right signing you feel may push him to consider it (plus how we finish the campaign)

Aside from this, the board has also got to play their part to push Wenger along.

If anything, if they feel uncomfortable wading into footballing matters, they should push Wenger on the marketing front. Our commercial business has taken a MASSIVE hit and our allure is fading as a club.

Losing two big names and not replacing them with the sort of players who can generate similar excitement is extremely foolish from a business perspective.

The extra say 50m we may spend over to attract better quality players with higher profiles in marketing potential will more than be made up for in commercial sales. This is something surprisingly our American owner doesn’t seem to grasp. Consider what City and PSG are doing, their massive over spend is not entirely for footballing reasons alone. Branding is key.

We are miles behind not just in football now but also commercially.

caligunner
caligunner

WTF?

couldn’t you just focus on Cech on your post?

Gabriel wasn’t improving. He was inconsistent.

Gnarby left in ’16 after having an excellent Olympics. Before that he was often injured or had bad run on loan. Ox was again coming off injuries and playing inconsistent. No reason to give him a new contract in ’16 maybe an extension if he was ok with that. He didn’t show any signs of consistency until the end up of the season. Not even before Jan to give him a new contract offer but at the end. Playing WB and not CM. How can you promise Gnarby Sr team minutes when he hasn’t shown anything to warrant that before the ’16 season?

Coq is mediocre. He is a specialist that you bring in for last 5 min of a match to secure a lead thats it. He was no other skills that help the club. ME is average all around MF that is good for the squad. Yes AMN should get the chance in MF rather then sticking him to FB role.

Badaab
Badaab

“I could have done better.”
That statement pretty much sums up the last 3 years of Arsenal at every level: the ownership, the board, the manager, the playing staff.
The problem with the club is that there isn’t any desire anymore. Everyone is content to just pick up a check and then go home, and that attitude extends from the top down. As long as Kroenke is here, this will continue.

baz00r
baz00r

Can somebody please compile a list of all the “We need to do better”, “We must do better” statements over the last two or three years, seriously it must be in the 100’s by now.

George
George

Yes, he should have. He has his strengths, is a great club presence, but let’s face it, he’s on the downside.

Our long search for a replacement for Seaman continues.

Conchetumadre
Conchetumadre

Cech has been a liability for awhile now.
Credit to him for taking responsibility.
The entire organization needs a shake up
and yes a new goalkeeper is needed.