It wasn’t great defensively, but a fine performance from Alexandre Lacazette – who finished with a goal and an assists – helped Arsenal beat Cardiff 3-2 in the Premier League yesterday.

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Pedant
Pedant

Attack was great, need Torreira starting.

manjit

i doubt that. laca and auba finish was sublime. you cannot expect them to score goals like that every match. Arsenal should be creating better chances. the midfield is flat, no movement, speed or dynamism.

Mc1892
Mc1892

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect one out of two £45m+ strikers to produce one great finish a match, though I agree we shouldn’t be reliant on it.

gooner1981
gooner1981

Liking the dropdown option for the ratings. The original star option was too much for my clumsy fingers, gave too many half stars. However, the arseblog rating is visible before our own ratings are done. Change in design?

Pedant
Pedant

And the average for other voters, also likely to ‘anchor’ any rating given to those figures.

PeteyB
PeteyB

I wonder if my suggestion from last week was missed, intentionally ignored as being a bad idea, or maybe under development. This being the internet I shall give my opinion again and fuck you all if you don’t like it. 😉

New ratings are mostly good. I Liked the original concept of hiding ratings until a vote is made to avoid the ‘anchoring’ effect highlighted by Pedant. However for those who missed the game, coming to the article to get an idea of player performance there needs to be a button to ‘show player ratings’. If you click the button to show ratings then you can’t make your own ratings. Of course some more work will be required but I figure that fix would keep everyone happy.

Mc1892
Mc1892

Starting to lose faith in Xhaka. No top centre mid should be giving away cross field passes like that off of their supposed favoured foot. When he plays those fast, low balls through the midfield it’s obvious how he needs to play, but he’s such a liability. I’m sure he completed 90 odd % of his passes as usual, but the ones he doesn’t are so dangerous to us. Have seen zero improvement in two years. On the positive, some much better football being played. That one one-touch move that resulted in Ramsey just missing bellerin’s cross was sublime. Could laca be our Suarez?

Cechmate
Cechmate

Maybe, he could bite off a part of Troy Deeney when we play them, but nah, he’s too classy to be a rabid dog like Suarez!

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

Also that last minute hand ball at the end almost gave me a heart attack. This guy costs us at least a goal every 2 games.

Mc1892
Mc1892

Totally agree. Think Torreira really staked his claim on that showing, though I have my reservations about Guendouzi as a partner. That little touch round the side where he bought a foul from Arter I think in the final 10mins and totally relieved the pressure on us was Santi-esque. His use of the ball seems great too. Very high hopes for him

locksley444
locksley444

Torreira’s use of the ball has been a pleasant surprise. He plays good long/killer balls too. Definitely would start him over Xhaka.

IamsterdamGooner
IamsterdamGooner

Torreira is really good technically, think he’ll surprise a few with his slight of feet! Glad it was him on the ball to play Laca on in the box for the winner. Anybody else (bar maybe Öz) would prob past it sideways or back to Ramsey or something. There’s more to this guy then just tenacity, hope he shines when settled. Torreira and Xhaka (for now) for me.

Niall
Niall

Cech and xhaka are useless why do we continue to play them when we have 2 quality players we bought to replace them if emery continues to play xhaka i want him out we can play torreira and guendouzi or torreria and ramsey,xhaka does nothing looks as bad with his feet as petr cech iv had enough bellerin too is fine against cardiff against any of the big teams he has to be dropped

420Goonerblayzeit
420Goonerblayzeit

That was a fantastic move. Kaleidoscopic football as Ray Hudson would say (ducks).

SG_Gooner
SG_Gooner

Xhaka needs to lose some weight

DamoDinkum
DamoDinkum

I think I lost some weight just cringing at this comment

Yiannis
Yiannis

I prefer not seeing the blog’s and the fans rating. It kills the fun somehow. It is if you are guided.

Lula
Lula

No agenda here but I really struggle to see what people see in Ozil and Ramsey in games like these.

Dont need to be reminded of the stats. I know what I saw. Ramsey is such a nearly player (apart from in finals and big games to his credit) and Ozil is almost all fluff. I Don’t think there are players we can replace them with like-for-like, but then that doesn’t make them superior or indispensible (cf I am Legend, the book).

Ramsey passes too slow, doesn’t score enough to be higher up and doesn’t defend well enough to play 8. Takes too many touches and slows the game down. Ozil is the better player but seriously fluffy. Half-heartedly presses and doesn’t score or perform to an impactful level enough to be the deluxe no. 10 he wants to play as. for him to be a 10 in most games it would mean sacrificing either Aubameyang or Lacazette.

And for my two cents, Aubameyang and Lacazette are far more important to our future than Ramsey or Ozil. The reason I have picked these players out is not personal vendetta or anything. But one is our longest serving player or is playing us and other clubs for a higher wage (so his impact has to be calculated in to our appraisal of the player for budgeting reasons) and the other is our most expensive player ever in terms of fee and wage. I Don’t see enough from either of them to justify the resources and responsibilities they want from the club.

They were no worse than many on the pitch today. The squad could do with a serious overhaul over the next few years and I think it should start at the top.

Glad to win however and nothing personal. If they change it around and their deficiencies were down to the last few years under Wenger then fair enough. But Ozil has not improved since hes been here and Ramsey hasnt in about six years. Not sure their renaissance is over the horizon.

manjit

you get only so much from the players you have, leave them and what have you got ?

Lula
Lula

@manjit well it would be a question of using other players, cultivating talents, selling those that do not or will not fit into the model and trying to build a core in the squad. that’s sort of where i am on this. but i do appreciate its a risk.

@eternalflamini i think that’s exactly right and it is true for many of the other players. i like clarity in our concepts. and for me i think a large Part of this season is figuring out last season. that is, what was influenced by Wenger and what deficiency is just the player himself. im sure someone will tell me its not possible to separate but this is of course just a rubric. so if you are right and this is ramseys ceiling then for me he is neither good enough to be solely an attacking mf and not good enough to be an 8 because of his defending. if we have hit the ceiling then i dont mind us showing him the door.

@faisalnarrage. i assume that reference is dbz. but even if they merged they couldnt play 8 because they wouldnt defend and i dont think there are enough goals in them. a pressing game requires different midfielders. id love them to adapt and time will tell but if this is it then theure not worth it and there are others out there that would play better in emerys system who are cheaper (look at milner and wijnaldum at liverpool).

hey guys thanks for the replies. nice to get an away win!

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

You’re right; they’d be a defensive liability still and not enough goals in them. It’s time to stop looking at the past and start with the future.

I like the look of Neves (so far) at Watford; Very technical and complete but also a workhorse too.

eternalflamini
eternalflamini

Ramsey does some really good stuff, drives us forward, but sometimes his lack of awareness and his decision-making has me yelling at the screen. For example there was one occasion when Auba was bearing down on goal, completely free and Ramsey sort of rolled the ball along the ground into the first defender. I just think this is his ceiling now, and we have to get used to it. Those yearning for that 2014 Ramsey (me among them) are destined to be disappointed.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

I feel if we have a pair of Potarra earrings (points for those who get the reference), we would fuse Ramsey and Ozil together to create the ultimate midfielder (or just another version of KDB).

Ramsey has all the athleticism (bar speed/acceleration); the drive, the runs, the getting into good positions, the press, etc. But technically he is not world class. Sometimes I see what he’s trying to do, but regularly lacks the technique to pull it off, with moments going past due to requiring too much touches, or making a failed pass. He will keep trying and once in a while it comes off, but most of the time it doesn’t.

Meanwhile Ozil has all the technical ability and vision to do all the things Ramsey wants to do, but doesn’t have the drive and/or athletic ability to do the physical stuff that Ramsey can. Bellerin must HATE having Ozil in front of him, as he offers so little protection and defensive structure. It’s no surprise all their luck comes down our right.

Might be time to try Mikhi as the no.10.

Jimbo jones
Jimbo jones

I think the lack of natural wingers makes playing 10 more difficult in this system as play gets closed down and clogged

Lula
Lula

true but there seems to increasingly be a dearth of those in top flight teams. i mean it’d be good for us to get at least one…

it is strange though how it changes. i remember when people said the same for ‘out and out’ strikers and defenders.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Dearth of Wingers?
City have 2 amazing ones (ignoring Sane’s slump),
Liverpool have at least one in Mane (Salah more a forward)
Barca, Madrid, Bayern all have one (that Gnabry lad at Bayern looks decent. Wonder if we can nick him?)

But agreed, we deffo need wingers.

Lula
Lula

these seem like attackers to me while i was thinking of midfielders. but point very much taken.

Owl faced Deeney's cojones
Owl faced Deeney's cojones

Micki has been another Ozil so far.

Martin
Martin

Well not as creative but certainly has been a success

I AM ARSENAL
I AM ARSENAL

Always thought fusin Giroud and Walcott would have created the perfect striker..Rather than the earrings it was the dance..Always preferred the fused jacket.

shmish

Me too. I think Ramsey is really not a huge concern at the moment. He may not win us games like he did in 2014, but I don’t believe he is costing us games. Stats have shown that the best way to improve your team is not by getting an expensive top player but by getting rid of your worst players. Ramsey isn’t in the bottom three imo.

Mc1892
Mc1892

Ozil on the right is a total waste of a position. It’s no coincidence that when he started drifting inside in the second half our forward line came to life. But whereas a year ago my answer to the question ‘is his quality worth the lack of defensive work?’ Was a resounding yes, now I’m not so sure. With just one player not pressing in the system i oresume emery is aiming for, the entire thing collapses. I wonder how long we’ll persist with him out of position?

420Goonerblayzeit
420Goonerblayzeit

I do love Ramsey, and would also love if he re-signed with the club. That said I agree that where he lacks most is in decision making. He either can’t pull the trigger on a pass that could potentially get someone in behind, or he doesn’t see it. I think he’s a great, all energy midfielder, and is capable of getting us 10 goals a game with his late runs into the box, but he lacks the intelligence of a great midfielder. Xhaka tries to be that Xabi Alonso type player, but he’s just not up to snuff. Like someone else said, you never saw Xabi Alonso giving the ball away cheaply, and his long switches of play/diagonals rarely missed their target.

Fireman Sam
Fireman Sam

I’d keep Ramsey rather than Ozil. I like Ramsey’s directness and I think with his more athletic physique he is more likely to be coachable defensively.

Both of them are excellent players but Ozil just doesn’t suit Emery’s current team or the style he wants to play with.

PleaseExplainJohn
PleaseExplainJohn

I am worried we will bear through the bad/half-arsed perfomances from Xhaka in the name of giving him time then he will up and leave the minute he becomes good and another big club shows interest. He just gives me that vibe.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Like Ramsey?

Bored beast
Bored beast

Ramsey hasnt become good and no other clubs wants him so no not like Ramsey

Sànde Class
Sànde Class

Oaahahahahaha! Such brutal honesty. Well done Bored beast! 😀

A Different George
A Different George

Do you honestly believe no other club wants Ramsey? He must be in a very weak bargaining position with us then. Yet, somehow, I keep hearing complaints that he is trying to blackmail us by refusing to sign a new contract.

sambo
sambo

No player in his right mind would sign a new deal until the end of his contract unless he’s not business savvy. He will either get good money because we need him and get desperate to not lose him on a free or he will leave for free and get a huge signing on fee because of it somewhere else. Its not rocket science really lol.

A Different George
A Different George

“Not rocket science,” just facts. Dozens and dozens of players, top players, sign contract extensions every year. All represented by agents, some by the very top agents.

Martin
Martin

He’s never been on the transfer list

Lula
Lula

almost as divisive and incindery as your almost namesake.

Owl faced Deeney's cojones
Owl faced Deeney's cojones

Lula talking about divisive namesake.

Lula
Lula

i was joking about @faisalnarrage. no offense meant whatsoever.

Niall
Niall

No big club is coming for xhaka believe that

A Different George
A Different George

From reading fan comments, it is simply incredible that Xhaka is even in the squad, let alone starting. Yet Wenger kept starting him, and Emery keeps starting him, and Switzerland keep starting him. Now, managers have blind spots, managers make mistakes, etc. But do you honestly believe that your judgment is so superior to that of football professionals? Is Xhaka really that bad–or perhaps it is you who is not seeing something?

Martin
Martin

The truth is that we haven’t seen him and Torreira together for a whole match. Xhaka is a natural deep lying midfielder as he plays so well for Switzerland and Torreira a DM. We know his passing ability is excellent so in his true role we may see a better player

Martin
Martin

He’s not for sale

Bob
Bob

Bayern Munich written all over him

Sboom
Sboom

Shouldnt our starting-11 be something like:

Leno (considering he’s told to be better on those feet’s than Cech)
Bellerin – Mustafi – Sokratis – Monreal
Özil – Guendouzi – Torreira – Ramsey – Auba
Lacazette

Given the freedom to roam inwards for both of our fake-wingers we need Guendouzi and Torreira in the side to cover those spaces left behind.

For a more defensive side – take out Ramsey and Özil for Xhaka and Iwobi.

Sboom
Sboom

Based on rankings and form shouldnt our starting-11 be something like:

Leno (considering he’s told to be better on those feet’s than Cech)
Bellerin – Mustafi – Sokratis – Monreal
Özil – Guendouzi – Torreira – Ramsey – Auba
Lacazette

Given the freedom to roam inwards for both of our fake-wingers we need Guendouzi and Torreira in the side to cover those spaces left behind.

For a more defensive side – take out Ramsey and Özil for Xhaka and Iwobi.

sambo
sambo

Cech (because his poor foot work hasn’t cost us a goal but his shot stopping has saved us many)
Bellerin-Mustafi-Kos-Monreal
Torriera
Miki Ramsey AUB
Ozil
Laca
IMO of course lol.

CountLeaf
CountLeaf

at times it seems as if our defence is being hindered by positioning they’re supposed to follow. seems almost every time we try to play from the back, we’re trying to position ourselves as far from each other as possible, so as to create additional space methinks. but this results in players being so far away from each other that our play slows down, loses coherence and it’s so much easier to press us.
would love to see an analysis how other teams play out from the back in regards to spaces they occupy.

manjit

you are right, strangely, emery is playing weird, 4231 with 2 of the slowest midfielders unable to engage anyone infront of them. Even though Guendouzi is good kid, he is too slow and has no clue where to pass at times. and rest of them of are so far I dont know, what are they expecting? the ball will fly and fall to their feet.
None of top teams are playing this formation. its 433. with dynamic movement and quick passing.

IamsterdamGooner
IamsterdamGooner

I’ve bumped into a couple of Guardiolas passing/positioning training videos and yesterday during another attempt to play out from the back my mind jumped back to one of them and I remember sitting there watching us thinking ‘I can see how this shit barely happens to city’. But he needed time and I hope thats all we need too.
Also, big part of that system is your goalies passing skills and I’m sorry but Cech cant pass a ball for shit.
Watching MOTD yesterday I saw for goal of month contender Ederson assisting Aguero with a long ball. If he wants to play from the back then your goalkeeper being (naturally) comfy on the ball is massive and Cech with all his experience and medals just isn’t that. To be fair to Cech he played well otherwise and did release us 2 or 3 times on counter with some throws haha

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

I’m I the only one who can’t see the page because it’s been blocked due to signed by a valid security certificate?

Sheffield Gooner
Sheffield Gooner

My browsers (on all devices) redirect me (via Cloudflare?) and I have to wait up to about a minute before it lets me see Arseblog News. Anyone know what the issue is? Are my devices thinking this is a dodgy website?

Jimbo jones
Jimbo jones

Did someone post a daily mail link here?

Lula
Lula

nah me too. Our passports are essentially categorized in the same way. a little worrying…

Lesster
Lesster

Ok so Özil obvisouly does not work / fancy to play on the right hand side.
And since he does not work enough defensively Emery will not play him – quite fairly to me – in the middle.
Do we necessarily have to play him?
I prefer Ramsey / Mkhitaryan at the moment.

manjit

neither ramsey nor Mkhitaryan can dictate play like ozil, go back and see the match. what did all the ramsey running yield in the first half ? nothing

Wolf
Wolf

I agree, Ramsey is unfortunately a bit similar to Walcott in his decision-making. He runs purposefully forward and you think “great, someone being dynamic and causing some urgency”… and then he sort of doesn’t know quite what to do and slows the play down. When Özil is on form, he can see *and* play a killer pass from almost anywhere, but Ramsey doesn’t quite have that skill, sadly.

eternalflamini
eternalflamini

I was thinking exactly the same thing yesterday – that he reminds me so much of Walcott. Not in the type of player, but in the sort of frustration he provokes in you as a fan. And then he goes and does something brilliant that makes you completely fall for him again. And then frustrates again. And on and on and on…

A Different George
A Different George

The similarity between Walcott and Ramsey is that neither is a top technical player (by the high standards of top-level professional football, of course). I always thought Walcott made intelligent runs off the ball, usually chose the right option in his passing, but too often could not get the right weight on his passes, or a good enough first touch when he received the ball. Ramsey is a little better technically, but certainly not as good a finisher as Theo, though he plays an entirely different role.

eternalflamini
eternalflamini

We’re splitting hairs here, but I actually thought Theo’s technique was fine when it came to finishing, it was just his decision-making was hair-brained … Ramsey is better on that front but not by much.

Owl faced Deeney's cojones
Owl faced Deeney's cojones

When Ozil is on form, you said.

Lesster
Lesster

Yeah because Özil clearly dictated play against Chelsea and yesterday, right?

Lesster
Lesster

I know this can look like another free attack toward Özil, but sincerely: am I the only one tired of his lack of desire during games?
And the attitude he’s got when he’s substituted… The man is paid millions and shows 0 class.

PFo
PFo

Actually he did dictate play in that second half yesterday. All our best attacking play and midfield control came after he started dropping deeper and demanding the ball a ton, playing forward passes to feet, in that second half. Go watch it again on the dot com (I did).

And getting limited touches as a 10 playing away at Chelsea, who are playing a midfield 3, is not the standard by which to judge whether a player should be in the side. Ramsey was also anonymous playing at 10 against City.

Martin
Martin

He did in the second half. Watch it again

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

And yet in that first half Ozi was even worse. Ozil may be able to dictate play, but he can’t play right wing, end of story.

A Different George
A Different George

“End of story.” I wish I understood football as well as you. If you have a certain idea of what a right wing must do, and a player doesn’t do that, then “he can’t play right wing.” If you think the fact that he is nominally a right wing is unimportant, then your judgment may be different. There’s this guy at Barcelona who is always cutting into the center, almost never crosses to the head of attacking teammates, never tracks back, is crap in the air, and yet they keep starting him. His name is Messi.

PFo
PFo

Manjit hit the nail on the head.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

I think the performance shows us just how important quality players are.
Our attack has quality players, and that shows in their play and ability to execute training moves. Our Defence lack quality and that shows in their inability to execute what they’ve been tasked to do; from the keeper to the CBs to the DM (Xhaka).

I’m still of hope. I think we’ll improve significantly once Torriera and Leno get introduced, so that should up our team quality already. So it’s not like the team is playing at it’s maximum capacity.

Just hope one or both of Mavro and Holding can step up and dislodge the current 2.

arseaddict
arseaddict

Mustafi and Sokratis can’t win over this sub, can they? They were fairly solid yesterday and a lot of you are forgetting this is Sokratis’s first year in the PL and it’s a new CB partnership which needs time to grow. Not to mention two like-minded CBs playing together.
Contrast his performances so far with Otamendi’s first season or Rudiger’s first season. Miles better

Nachoman
Nachoman

Please god

Public Elneny
Public Elneny

Tbh I thought Xhaka was good apart from the goal.

As big a talent as he is it’s Guendouzi we need to drop for Torreira. Xhaka has more defensive lapses and giveaways than he should, and he will never have the nimbleness and awareness with the ball at his feet to be the fulcrum we really want, but he mostly does the right thing. And with a responsible midfielder next to him he should improve. Guendouzi currently doesn’t have the first clue how to protect his back four tbh, and his passing/movement/ball carrying isn’t so important to us that he makes up for it. The last two games we’ve looked better after he was subbed off.

Also this short passing from the back at all costs has to stop. I don’t care if Emery has said it must be done at all times, if there’s not a short pass on then just clear it, someone as experienced as Cech should know that regardless of instructions

A Different George
A Different George

I agree about Xhaka/Torreira/Guendouzi. I was less impressed with Torreira than most people until yesterday, when I thought he was very good. I’m glad Guendouzi has gotten playing time and there is a chance he will develop into a top player, but Xhaka/Torreira makes much more sense for now.

And just to reiterate something Blogs has said: Xhaka’s 45th minute pass was awful, but it should not have led to a goal. We still got players back in time to pressure the cross and defend in the box; it’s not like it led to a 3 v 2 or anything like that. That goal, like most, was caused by a series of errors. Xhaka’s error was the most glaringly obvious–but it was not necessarily the most serious.

shmish

I agree. Xhaka drives me crazy at times but I didn’t think he had a bad game. That was a bad pass but he’s probably done that same pass hundreds of times successfully.

Niall
Niall

Cech bellerin and xhaka need to be dropped

Niall
Niall

Torreria leno and lichtensteiner need to start what is emery playing at xhaka and cech make critical mistakes over and over again and dont get dropped emery out

Martin
Martin

I can hardly think of a mistake Cech has made apart from a silly miskick and yesterday kicking the ball to Arter. Other than that he’s been an excellent keeper

DB412
DB412

I have a theory part of the reason Emery has refrained from dropping players such as Cech and Xhaka is to do with wanting keep the senior players ‘sweet’ as he brings in his philosophy. It shows a respect to the ‘old guard’ and had he dropped them from the off he risks losing the support of the influential members of the dressing room. Clearly Torreira has been blooded in slowly as a result of coming back late from the world cup and to allow him to become more accustomed. I can’t see Xhaka being dropped and think after the international break Guendouzi will make way. Obviously Leno needs to play instead of Cech at some point because Cech is so dodgy on the ball but I’d be surprised if Cech actually gets dropped in the league any time before Christmas. I don’t think anyone disagrees that Laca and PEA need to start the next game together. Big question if that is the case though is how our cup team lines up? Surely one of them would also play as the striker in those games. Assuming that, another big question is who plays out of Ozil, Ramsey and Mkhi… In reality Ozil is undroppable due to his wages and IMO Mkhi offers more variation than Ramsey and is better out wide. This leaves Ramsey on the bench which makes him less likely to sign a new contract and in turn not worth investing large wages in retaining. Tasty decisions for Emery.

Wengerballz
Wengerballz

This webpage hurts my eyes and my soul

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy

Bellerin was exposed on the right as our right-winger, on paper at least, decided or was told he had a licence to roam. Rambo the Rambler, yaddah-yaddah . . . same old, same old. Other than that what ramsey did was good but their second came down the right and I didn’t see AR8 anywhere close by.

Mustafi seems to be more like the player, over the first few games, that we had hoped for, early days but I think he looks better than we’ve seen before.

Still, it was encouraging overall and Torreira makes a big difference when he comes on and is not afraid to go forward. So far it seems he doesn’t get caught out too far up the pitch.

I can’t seem to work it out but our wing-play appears optional and comes and goes throughout the game, it seemed to work as I thought after we scored for 0-1 it might be a bit of a rout in our favour . . . well, anyway, that was just me, right ?

Finally, I am pleased to see Özil being spelt with an umlaut in the ratings, at last. Small things, I know, but maybe just maybe he is gradually getting more in the swing of things and had Lacazettes ball been better in the one-two on that break set up by Cech’s throw, we would be talking about Özil’s early contender for ‘ Goal Of The Season ‘, this morning !

Looking good and keeping the feelgood factor alive, we just need a bit more in defence, where at times it appears to be not that far away from being playground football when the ball is lobbed into our box.

George
George

If we are going to play that way from the back we can’t start Cech, it’s that simple. I’m assuming this is something Leno is good at, so we need to see him.

Cech is not suddenly going to become comfortable with the ball at his feet at his age. Or figure out to how to distribute it. His horror show affected the rest of his game too – he was so timid in the 6-18 yard area.

If he doesn’t have the freedom to at least mix it up then it’s really not fair to torture him like this. Or us!

manjit

I do not see anyone pointing sokratis. he clearly lacked the courage to pass forward and hence was playing cech again and again clearly knowing he is not comfortable with ball. Mustafi was not passing back as much as sokratis, he is the one struggling and taking cech down with him.

eternalflamini
eternalflamini

Long live Aubamazette!

OdalGooner
OdalGooner

Partial to Lacayang myself, but either works fine.

eternalflamini
eternalflamini

Hahah Lacayang is great.

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy

I’d hate to be picky, ‘coz I like a good portmanteau word, but how about just dropping the ‘m’ and having . . .

‘ Aubazette ‘.

Anyway, either/or, let’s hope they continue the partnership they so clearly enjoy with each other ! Did you see their handshake and bow between them ? It warmed the heart !

Owl faced Deeney's cojones
Owl faced Deeney's cojones

Original Aubalaca works fine.

George
George

That handshake was an instant classic moment. Brilliant stuff. I

Afobaba
Afobaba

Need to sort out our defensive issues

aced
aced

Suggestion: perhaps we should just add an “e” to the back end of Xhaka’s first name, as his speed and quickness (both in the feet and in the brain) resemble a slab of it at times. And don’t take this as a criticism; just being descriptive. The feeling here is that if you paired him with a proper defensive midfielder like Torreira you could use his passing and vision to greatly influence our attack. Blood in Guendouzi in the Europa league and Carabao matches and as a change of pace sub in premiership games.

Xhaka is such a puzzling player. He probably leads the premiership by far in disproportionate impact. Every player makes mistakes, but every one he makes seems to have a greater negative effect on a game and far outweigh his positives.

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy

I think the solution to Xhaka is keep him in their half, ( and just between you and me, right ? I don’t want to start an argument on here or anything . . . ) drop Rambo and play Torreira and Guendouzi, when he’s up to speed, or even for now Elneny, behind Xhaka.
That way Xhaka isn’t caught out playing risky passes in our half but is instead picking out more passes like Guendouzi did, also in the first half, for Monreal ( ? ) on the left, from the halfway line.

Keep Xhaka away from our box, in fact, don’t give him any reason to leave the centre circle in our half of the pitch.

YpsiGooner
YpsiGooner

I’ve also wondered about a midfield 3 of Xhaka, Torreira, & Guendouzi. They all kinda want to be deep though, so could Guendouzi carry the ball forward a bit?

Mark
Mark

Great to see Laca starting and having such an impact. He really is a solid all around player. Like Giroud he is very good at the one touch ball to runners off of him, but unlike Giroud he is also a threat to receive, it dribble and take on defenders. He has such a quick release as well.

Aubameyang combined well with him and although he was a left winger most of the time did drift into the middle often as a second forward and came back through the middle to help with possession. Really like his attitude and willingness to play where asked plus he seems genuinely excited for his teammates when they do well especially for Lacazette.

Would love to see Torreia start with Guendozzi in the next match. As many have said for all the good things Xhaka does he will often have that “oh crap” moment with a bad turnover that leads to a quality chance for the other team.

Finally, we have got to figure out a different strategy when pinned in deep other than passing the ball back to Cech in bad situations (like Sokratis did often early in the match) where is so slow and uncomfortable on the ball. Cech has done very well with his shot stopping this season, but his play with his feet is horrendous and nearly gave up a couple of goals early yesterday off of his distribution.

Lula
Lula

Yes. I think Torreira and Gendouzi would be interesting too. It seems as though lots of team rely on running in the channels and lots of quick exchanges in the middle to beat the press and alleviate pressure on the defence and keeper. I think this team needs wingers. Its a role I think Mkhitaryan could adapt to but wonder how effective players like Xhaka and Ramsey who can be slow and even Ozil would have in this dynamic. Liverpool rely on paces over the top and industry in the middle to beat the press as do Chelsea while City rely on all the money in the world. I struggle to see how we could emulate that with these players and how we could innovate with what we have to beat the press a different way. Its not a popular view but if he are putting stock in Emery I think we might be in line for one or two shock exits. That said I think Iwobi and Welbeck might both have a potentially useful role to play in this system on the wings. Welbeck because he is industrious and Iwobi because, I assume, he is young and malleable. I would be far more interesting in developing that partnership between Laca and Auba than pursuing and compromising the new system to accommodate some of the other players further behind them because I think we Already know the ceiling for a lot of them.

jon

Possesion football is based on the idea that attack is the best defense. We want to bring the battle to the enemy’s territory. But football might be changing again, towards a more direct attacking style. We saw the German national team use it in Brazil in 2014, we saw Leicester in the 2015–16 season, we see it with Liverpool and Tottenham now.

The offensive full backs might simply belong to an era bygone. Against fast attacks, they will unvariably return too late, leaving acres of space on the flanks. Bellerin and Monreal should be played as wings in midfield. We need traditional defenders behind them, either 3 or 4.

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy

Who we would pair on the left I am not sure, given Kolasinac has his flaws but maybe it’s worth a go; however, I have wondered, since we bought him, and Bellerin’s lack of cover over the past few seasons, if Lichtsteiner in the RB and Bellering in the RW/RAM might work.

That said, if Emery has seen what a few of us have seen, Hector and Miki appearing to have a good relationship building on that flank, then that might mean Hector dropping back and letting Miki carry it forward. I am not sure Miki is going to get a lot of guaranteed starts at the moment and he also seems to play on the left as well.

I’ll stop now as I am only going to ramble in a rather non-concise manner trying to pin down the other things I am trying to say, but in short I like the point you make and think it is an interesting debate to have..

A Different George
A Different George

There is not the slightest sign that top teams are moving away from attacking fullbacks. Did you watch what Benjamin Mendy did against us for City?

DBMÖ10
DBMÖ10

Ramsey would be the perfect CDM , kills almost every counter. I remember almost pulling it out my hair when Cech rolled one to him from their corner , Auba was at full pelt on the right. Instead, he took his customary three touches , did the 360 turn around thing and passed it back. Slow in his decision making and ponderous passing. Good energy though , never stopped running.

Buck Thirsty
Buck Thirsty

I noticed that Cech kept hoofing the ball forward and out of play once he had made one too many mistakes with his attempt at passing from the back. His distribution with his hands was however really good. Unai has to leave Cech on the bench if he really wants this new system to work.

Public Elneny
Public Elneny

It’s not just down to the Cech though. Many times when he received it there just wasn’t a pass on, it doesn’t matter what he’s like with his feet, you wouldn’t even want Messi to try to engineer a pass in those situations.

Teams are pressing up on us cos they know we’re shaky as hell at it. It’s down to the outfielders to be cleverer in their movement / spacing to create the passing options – which will take a lot of time and probably additions. Alternatively, we could just go long whenever we’re under pressure – teams will stop pressing us so aggressively and we’ll be able to play out without too much risk more often.

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy

Exactly, change it up accordingly rather than slavishly following a plan or style. Any team pressing won’t know whether to ‘ stick or twist ‘ and we can evolve our passing-it-out-from-the-back malarkey, I mean game, with generally less pressure.

Well, that’s the theory . . .

Pierre_Alexander
Pierre_Alexander

I think Laca was great again. Auba also did well on the left. Hope in the winter or the summer, we can get a top right-wing player; Ousmane Dembele would be a dream. By the way, unless if there are concerns about lasting the whole 90 minutes, I don’t see why Torriera should not start; he makes our attacks faster and is good defensively.

meneam
meneam

Good 3 points before the international break. Hope Emery can see that :
1- Ozil is not a winger and he will never be one
2- It’s better to have a technically-gifted player like Miki than having Ramsey running aimlessly up and down the pitch
3- Bellerin will never stop a cross comin into our Box. Need Lech to start games now
4- Xhaka is a big liability. Torreira is the way to go

Jean Ralphio
Jean Ralphio

Play Henrikh in the Ramsey role. I think we will be a lot more solid if we play front the back. Cech boots it upfield and we always lose it.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Surprised by the negative comments on Ramsey, thought he was one of our better players on the day. Not everything came off but he was provocative throughout and unlucky not to get an assist. Also he’s one of the only players in the team that actually knows how to press. Can see why Emery wants him there ahead of Ozil but unfortunately Ozil isn’t cut out for the wing at all.

Elcamino
Elcamino

A very offensive lineup so no wo der we conceded. Defensively Mustafi and Socrates looked better. For me they are still too similar though. Neither one is quite tall enough to be imposing in the premier league.

I was screaming at Hector to cut out the crosses but to be fair he gets no cover. Ozil was on the right but was nowhere to be seen. Ramsey had a good work rate but didnt do that much else. We didnt seem to press much from the top so not sure if that was a tactical shift

Lacazette was man of the match. His hold up play was good and what a finish.

Auba on the other hand apart from the goal didnt do much.
He doest offer much on the ball and doesnt track back…but if he can finish like that who cares.

Tierrera looked good but hes sooo short that i think against a big strong team hed cost us on set pieces.

We really need a natural winger on the right..

Very lucky to come away with this one. Hopefully in the next two weeks emery can sort out tue defense

Martin
Martin

Do you really believe we were lucky? 72% possessio and hit post and many other chances. Cardiff only 3 shots on target and their second goal emanated from a free kick that should never have been given

Santori
Santori

Not the best performance. Felt we were again wanton in front of goal which allowed them to build confidence every time we had just scored. We could have put this to bed easier. Instead we put our rickety defense under duress time and again. As much as the defense and midfield is culpable so are the attackers.

1) Cech – There needs to be nuance to this whole play out from the back method. If in doubt, lump it long. Some of the balls played across goal were well dodgy, Cbacks like Sokratis did not help by putting Cech under undue pressure returning the ball to him so he has to hurry on decision. OTOH, he came out very decisively several times to collect the ball from dangerous crosses fired into the box so its a bit less poor than his footwork would have suggest. Has he made a case for Leno? Not yet. But he is one calamitous mistake away and we aren’t helping him with this sort of play from the back tactic.

The thing is I don’t think Emery expects us to be so slavish to method either. He expects us to know when to and when to hoof high up the pitch but the team is following his instructions perhaps too closely.

Part of the problem as I have repeatedly mention is we have not bought well in market. The team lacks balance. We rely on fullbacks for width and we have too many players who are good at pass and play but hardly any who can take on players for pace and skill. Thereby we resort to working our way up the line and picking through gaps. We lack alternatives.

2) Bellerin – Much better defensive display but crossing needs work. Doesn’t seem to clear the first man.

3) Mustafi – A decent performance from him not without faults still but plenty of important clearances and strength in the air. He can’t be there for everything so the midfield needs to cut out the balls into the box and this was an issue from wide areas and set pieces (something we have had since Wenger era)

Good bullet header for the goal, had 3 other opportunities as he got very involved in set pieces. Several good releases as well from deep to right side.

4) Sokratis – Played Cech into danger for the ball the keeper sent straight down the middle to one of them. But the keeper as well ought to know better.

He’s not the defender we need to partner Mustafi or play to the gaffer’s preferred methods and no where quick but he’s doing reasonably OK for what he is.

5) Monreal – Missed a golden opportunity. Culpable for their first goal. Sure most of the fans with preconceived ideas point the finger at Granit for the cross field pass but we still had plenty of numbers back to deal with the situation and Monreal got turned far too easily for a professional of his experience by Camarasa. Far too many balls came in to our box from wide areas but that is not an issue of the fullbacks alone.

6) Granit – As mentioned above, the cross field ball was a good idea but he got the trajectory wrong for once. AND we still had defenders to cope with the situation thereafter.

Generally, he was solid through the game. People should really watch the game AGAIN before mouthing off.

He got a great assist planting the ball into Mustafi for the first goal.

He made a number of very good tackles and distributed the ball well for us.

7) Guendouzi – And OK game from the youngster. Some good balls and usual verve and energy provided.

8) Ramsey – I don’t get playing Ramsey and Ozil. They both play the same game and offer same function. Having said that, Ramsey had a tough afternoon returning to a different sort of welcome but he brings a lot of industry and played with a bit of aggression.

But we are a victim of the way we have bought in market. The team lacks balance. We have players like Ramsey, Ozil, Mhki who will generally not get by the opponent with pace, or skill. Thereby we have to pick our way pass. Most of the times if the channels are closed off, it means us going backwards or sideways. In this case against Cardiff or West Ham, we play fairly poor teams so we look good stringing some passing moves together but against good opposition, I fear we will continue to struggle like under Wenger.

Its a sum of what we have availablein squad which dictates how we are playing.

9) Ozil – The press made more of a mountain than they needed out of a mole hill.

Likely he had some sort of sulk but clearly the relation isn’t as poorly betwixt him and the gaffer as many would deem to typically imagine. Thought he worked hard instigated the move to Aubameyang’s goal, delivered a superb ball over the top as he dropped deep (quite frequently in this game) which Auba could not take advantage of.

But defensively its not his game and although he put in an effort, we tend to struggle if he takes his foot of the peddle.

My feeling is we should either play Ozil or Ramsey. I’m not convinced by the assets we have at disposal.

10) Aubameyang – Great goal. Well taken but serves to illustrate again our lack of wide players.

The press would suggest this Aubameyang Lacazette pairing some sort of new tactic from the gaffer but in truth Wenger had already been using Auba out wide in concert with the Frenchman.

I just don’t see Auba as a wide player. But he hasn’t been terribly effective for us up top either.

Out wide the results are mixed. He cut in for the goal from deeper. Otherwise when fed on the wings, he could not get past his fullback for large part. He isn’t Henry out there and even Henry struggled when given a wide role in Italy.

11) Lacazette – I’m impressed with him. Last season, he offered little hold up play and you could see why Deschamp elected to play Giroud over him in the National set up.

But he’s taken a page from his compatriot.

Arguably, he leads the line better in circumstance where there is less ground to eat up and you need to get in the mix a little.

He also distributes the ball well when he receives it with his flicks and quick releases.

The argument for him to start up top for me has been settled. Unless we feel we have to play largely on the break, Lacazette should start. Great goal from him and a solid assist.

12) Torreira – His effectiveness is there but tends to be over exaggerated as much as Granit’s is overly criticised.

Came on and provided an assist.

But here’s the thing most people feel its a zero sum game with players. They tend to operate on a limited notion that there MUST be a first choice duo in midfield.

In actual fact, I feel we will need 3 players in midfield for two positions. Here’s why.

We play a high energy game that requires us to press (if I am to discern Emery’s tactical approach correctly)

Which means we need to keep the engine room going in midfield. It will take all 3 options of Torreira, Granit and Guendouzi.

Whether Torreira starts and stays longer on the pitch is the issue but he is only bedding into the league and past performance against Chelsea or City showed he was also struggling at times (Was dispossessed quite a bit against City)

So Emery’s approach to intro him slowly is correct.

In terms of best partnerships between the 3, this is difficult to say. Granit offers protection with height (He cleared a number of headers back to the attack) where Torreira lacks this and it could be itself an impediment the other side may exploit.

Guendouzi is the obvious dynamo but he has also made mistakes. He made a couple of poor passes yesterday which if he were Granit there would have been usual moans but fortunately we defended better (slightly) in those instances.

A Torreira- Granit midfield would probably be the strongest at the moment as Guendouzi is allowed to continue to take shape. But as I mentioned, a lot of it depends on how ready Torreira is to make full 90minutes in the aggressive PL.

13) Mhkitaryan – Again, we don’t have a player who can provide width. We funnel narrow with Auba and Laca meaning Ramsey, Ozil plus the midfield duo effectively makes us a 4-2-2-2. Fullbacks have to commit forward more often to provide width with predictable space opened at the back for the opponents to engage our Cbacks (mustafi actually did very well on a number of these occasions covering or closing Ward down) Again watch the game a second time.

Iwobi is possibly the closest player we have now to this sort of wide ability with the potential of Nelson gone on loan.

14) Welbeck – I suspect Emery will also use more of Welbeck but whether he is also shunted to a wide area in an arttempted lob sided 4-3-3 or IMO played more to his strengths on apex will be left to be seen. I suspect the left side will be flexible between Aubameyang cutting in with Lacazette going right or welbeck doing the same or Welbeck and Auba swapping in and out of wide position if they start together.

On current evidence, Laca should play top.

15) Anthony Taylor – Together with Mike Dean easily one of the worse refs in the PL. Absolute shite giving poor decisions and phantom free kicks. We must have had 5 yellows before they even got one and they were industrial to say the least on many occasions. Why he is still reffing is beyond me.

Martin
Martin

Not a bad summary except with your thoughts on Torreira. 26 passes made accurately and an assist. However I’m totally with you about Xhaka and think they could really play well together

A Different George
A Different George

Anthony Taylor is not a strong referee, but comparing him to Mike Dean is unfair. Comparing anyone to Mike Dean is unfair. (Also, Taylor had the guts to give Victor Moses a second yellow for diving in an FA Cup final, so I always cut him a bit more slack than other referees.)

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

I really think that Xhaka had a good game and that was our 2nd best player behind the Lacazette but apparently I am in a minority. Those who don’t believe me watch a game again. I will do likewise. I don’t rate his performance based on one missplaced pass. It was a bad decision but loosing ball there doesn’t mean we should concede. He has started 54 games in a row since the last suspension. Favre played him, Wenger played him, Emery play him, Petkovič play him… Like they I also rate him highly and see what he contributes to the team.

Also Cech is the least of our problems when it comes to playing from the back and Leno wouldn’t fix much. The point of it is to play the ball OUT of our 3rd. Our defenders are “killing” him with constant passing back to him. Also both passes from Sokratis in the first minutes are bad and on a his weak leg. Our defenders and midfielders don’t possess the quality we need for that kind of tactic. They are not good enough technically and it seems like they don’t know when to pick the right moment for a pass. I must say I am not a fan of this even when you perfect it. I believe that under Wenger we played from the back as much as we should to. We rarely did it for the all-cause. Hopefully Emery will change that for at least the time being because I don’t think you can train that. You can only buy it.

Nacho Man
Nacho Man

Xhaka is undroppable, but only until the next transfer window. Every modern arsenal team needs a deep-lying cesc/arteta/cazorla type playmaker. Right now Xhaka appears to be our only option. These type of players protected our defence by suffocating opponents with 60% possession stats. Xhaka is the closest player to it, but he is a severe downgrade.

Martin
Martin

As he has yet to play in that position I don’t know how you can judge him. He certainly plays well in that role for Switzerland.

food for thought
food for thought

let’s drop xhaka and try partnering micky and torreira in CM.

henry
henry

cartoons are awful. what is the point?

One_of_bellerins_corn_rows
One_of_bellerins_corn_rows

Harsh for Xhaka for mine, and I think he gets a lot of unwarranted negativity. I agree he has moments that are brain snaps, but he is a master at getting the ball forward. A compressed team sitting deep is really hard to get the ball forward into dangerous areas, he is really good at that and I think a lot of the time we as fans don’t realise how important that is for how we play. Yes he played a ball that led to a goal but it’s one missed place pass out of the 100 or so he made.

For me, Monreal had a shocker and should be getting the grilling, not Xhaka. Monreal was caught out for both goals, I think Cardiff we right in playing long balls to the fullbacks to break us down because Monreal and Bellerin can’t win headers, they don’t even look like they try to win headers.