Arsenal 1-3 Manchester United – player ratings

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Alexis Sanchez came back to haunt Arsenal as Manchester United took advantage of injuries to Sokratis and Laurent Koscielny to end Arsenal’s FA Cup hopes with a 3-1 win under the lights at the Emirates.

Two goals in two minutes from Sanchez and Jesse Lingard did the damage for Ole Gunnar Solksjaer’s side and even though Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang reduced the deficit before the break, the Gunners never really looked like completing a comeback. Anthony Martial put the game to bed with eight minutes remaining as Petr Cech pushed a Pogba shot into his path.

Here’s how the players rated…*spoiler* not well.

Read the Arsenal 1-3 Manchester United match report and see the goals here

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Red-Sky
Red-Sky

At this rate, 1/10 for Arsenal’s future.
Team needs a massive overhaul, that or face dwindling in mediocrity for some long years.

Cacho
Cacho

Sad but true. One of 2 things need to happen. Either Stan gets bought out and we get an owner (hopefully not an evil one) who will spend on players. Or one of the other “top 6” will need to be seriously weakened to give us an easier path to the CL. The homeless goblins very well may have their manager and a few if their top twats leave.

It used to be a 3rd option could be getting in a brilliant manager. A visionary type where can squeeze some synergy out of the squad. I don’t see that happening. The top managers now also require 100 million in the transfer kitty every summer.

CLEGooner
CLEGooner

Nothing significantly different will hapen until Kronk is gone. We might win the odd cup or maybe finish third or forth occasionally, but there will be no title challenges.

But then, you already know that.

But what else are we gonna do to avoid the creeping inevitabily of death? Paint? Charity work?

midgunner
midgunner

Jesus, give up on the doom.

I thought we played pretty well and would have stood a good chance without the injuries.

Ramsey, AMN and Kola had much better games than those ratings suggest.

Sure the squad needs investment and Emery needs time. I think we have to put some trust the new recruitment team to spend wisely over the next 12 months.

Giving the manager time is up to us.

Peter Story Teller
Peter Story Teller

First half we played pretty well without threatening too much. Then apart from the initial 10 minutes of the second half where we almost equalised the entire team went AWOL and kicked the ball aimlessly from side to side in front of two rows of four United defenders. Unfortunately every PL team knows our weaknesses and as soon as we lost the ball Pogba just had to pick out a United player for us to concede again.
Sure you can blame the players but Managers and Coaches are well paid as well and for an entire team to be bereft of ideas the underlying problem appears to be much deeper than the squad that runs around the pitch.

CLEGooner
CLEGooner

Not sure if that’s directed at me, but I’m not really dooming. I have totally lowered my expectations for Arsenal and it has helped.

The only way out is through, and I’ve bursted through the zone of dissapointment into the meadow of no expectations. Arsenal is just a thing I talk shit about with my friends and my brother, a thing I read about online, and the footy I watch on Teevee.

Let go. It feels good.

This post is only about 35% in jest.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

I didn’t think we played THAT bad. Some would talk as if it were the West Ham game.

What was clear was, unlike United, for all the talk of we need a playmaker out there (which is just a call for Ozil), we seriously lack direct pacey players who can carry the ball and have end product. United had Lingard, Sanchez, Pogba then later Martial and Rashford. Only such player of similar quality as the aforementioned was Iwobi….and he definitely lacks in the end product department.

Cechmate
Cechmate

But that I think would require a lot of changes to our system & style. Where I think we are losing is in the midfield- we’re clearly not comfortable without the ball, as we don’t defend well but we’re losing the ball too much in midfield. More often than not we lose the second pass from our D and end up with the ball near our D again.

What we need in my opinion is a midfield enforcer like Santi or Arteta, someone who can get struck into tackles, win the ball, dribble past people and transition the team from defence to attack. Right now our attackers are not too confident about our midfield and are probably trying to play a bit safe or they get isolated and our defence is not confident about our midfield in controlling games so are always nervous and are having to defend against too many attacks, which is not ideal.

I think the missing piece is Xhaka’s position – while he is good, he isn’t what we need right now. He helps us with his passes up field but is a liability in defence and in relieving pressure off the defence. If We fix that I think we will improve defensively significantly. We are not at-Madrid so the best way to defend is to not having to defend too often.

Phil
Phil

I wouldn’t say Arteta and Santi were ‘midfield enforcers’, but more deep lying playmakers. I think in fact a lot of the problems in those teams came from them being asked to do both roles which they clearly weren’t suited for.

The problem is that what you describe is basically the complete midfielder… Someone who can do literally everything. How many of them are there out there at the top level? And how much would it cost to bring one in?

Instead most teams have to break up that role, by having players who specialise in certain areas and that’s what we’re building towards… We’re just not there yet!

A Different George
A Different George

To me, one of the only positives of this match (and it certainly does not outweigh the negatives: dropping out of the FA Cup, losing to Man United, injuries, possibly serious, to defenders) was the further indication that a manager’s job is largely to figure out how to get the most out of his players. That means man management and psychology, but it also means tactics. So Pogba, almost a joke when Mourinho was his coach, looks like the world-class midfielder who played in Russia.

We have one world-class player, and two strikers who are close. I hope Emery understands why United have re-emerged and takes the right lesson.

Chamakhyungpark
Chamakhyungpark

Totally. Our midfield is pretty slow and unathletic. Torreira looks tired and against pogba, it was very obvious that we need a more athletic player in CM. Not saying drop Torreira, he is good at what he does, but like you said, we need another ball carrier.

Ultimately, papakos going off was the killer

Mpls
Mpls

True, Torreira was outmuscled and outrun by Pogba. But that pretty much describes what Pogba brings. He’s a rare combination of size, athleticism, and decent technique. Torreira is neither the first nor the last opponent by far Pogba will do that to on his current form.

clins
clins

I thought ozil played well today for the time he got. We had all the posession but were still not creating any decent chance until ozil and guendouzi came on and then we started pinging passes together right in and around their penalty area. But then our defence came apart and conceded the third goal which effectively ended the game. All our attacking players played as well as they could be expected, but defence keeps failing us. We are going nowhere until we fix the defence.It seems wise right now that we keep playing the three man midfield for added protection to the defence (in hindsight i think we could’ve performed better with the same team we played against chelsea, but manager has to juggle a lot of things including squad rotation to an already depleted squad).

Pires
Pires

how many points for MRI ?

Penfield
Penfield

Man U got the tactics right and we didn’t have any answer for that. Losing Socrates so early in the game I felt it was gonna go that way.

I can see Emery’s tinkering becoming a focal point for criticism in 2 years time

Caligunner
Caligunner

How about now lol

I’ve said this in another thread. He reminds me of a type of manager that belongs with a smaller club where they need to keep tinkering every match like I assume Sevilla did with him there. His Lack of man management skills showed at PSG and it’s backfiring here with the handling of Ozil, Ramsey and even elneny.

Cechmate
Cechmate

I think it’s too early to pass a judgement on Emery. At the same time, I too had commented earlier how his treatment of players that are left out of squad is concerning. IMO he is freezing a lot of players out too early.

But our problems go well beyond him. Why do you think we hired him in the first place – because Stan didn’t want to invest his personal money into the club & in buying top players which any top manager would demand. If you think we are limited by Emery’s capabilities then it’s because we chose to be and he too didn’t have a lot of choices with quite a few top managers around that were available. So, it was a marriage of convenience and unfortunately emery is finding it inconvenient now, after realising the players at his disposal don’t match his style and he doesn’t know how to adapt his plans around them.

Talk about a painful transition – I think we all knew it wasn’t going to be easy to move from Wenger to anyone else, so let’s give him some time to get his choice of transfers and then rate him or berate him.

Dan P
Dan P

Emery is a good manager and is doing a good job for us, however, the task he has been handed is a very difficult one. He has inherited an average squad, with a budget that is on par with Cardiff City. I’m hoping this summer he is ruthless and we ship out the likes of Mustafi, Elneny, Mkhitaryan and Ozil with a few more. If this can help raise around £50m plus and we make smart acquisitions then we don’t need a massive budget this summer, we just need to identify some gems again like we used to do. It’s just a shame we got rid of one of the best scouts in Europe!

kaius
kaius

Think this season is important for salvaging the transfer value of certain squad members but I definitely agree that last summer’s overhaul wasn’t radical enough.

As Clive from Arsenal Vision podcast always says, “blow it up”.

Tim
Tim

Sevilla was a fourth place club in Spain. We’re at the same level.

Mpls
Mpls

Does that mean we get to move to sunny Spain and eat Iberian ham?

Arsepants
Arsepants

I’d settle for Jamon Ruffles.

Manu Petits left boot
Manu Petits left boot

We are not a 4th place club. We aspire to be a 4th place club.

Atom
Atom

What concerns me is our continued inability to defend. It would be one thing if we played youngsters but this was virtually our first choice line up except Leno

papa don't preach
papa don't preach

And our first choice centre back went off within 20 minutes.. how can that not have an effect today.

Thomas b
Thomas b

Well, that terrible rebound on 1-3 killed the game for me. Before that I kinda had a hope that we could snatch something, but after the goal you could see the players give up. I wouldn’t say it’s a terrible mistake, but our goali should have don’t better there…

Glen Helders left foot
Glen Helders left foot

We always had hope at 1-2, in fact we we’re starting to turn the screw on them, but the third killed us, and Cech was horrendous for it, tame enough shot at him he could of and should of put it anywhere bar where he did, shockingly poor goalkeeping

Penfield
Penfield

I disagree.

Sokratis and Koscielny don’t get injured and I reckon it would’ve been much closer. This game was lost entirely on the counter.

Also we really missed Bellerin today.

assistantref
assistantref

When you lose your defensive organizer 20 minutes in and then your best defender 20 minutes into the second half it’s hard to really say we have “our first choice line up.”

GraeB
GraeB

I agree but then Manure left their best strikers lately on the bench until late on. It still comes down to organisation/coaching.

Watch the first goal in freeze frame and wonder why Mustafi was rushing at Lukaku when there were already 3 players on him whilst crossing directions with Sanchez instead of marking him. Basic schoolboy ball-watching.

3rd goal I was blaming players for not tackling Pogba but watching it again his power was just tremendous, we were left with too many upfield yet again. Xhaka was left with Pogba coming at him and Rashford behind him to cover so forcing the shot was a good result; Cech was just weak in handling the shot.

A Different George
A Different George

I was waiting for someone blaming Mustafi for that goal. It’s just ludicrous. Insofar as one of our defenders was to blame, it was Koscielny. But, as you recognise in your second point, there are two teams on the pitch. Lukaku made a very good pass, and Alexis scored a pretty brilliant goal. (No one would argue with that characterization when he did it for us.)

Rich
Rich

The only attacking player we had on the bench was Ozil, our squad isn’t just lacking in quality in certain areas, we’re also lacking in numbers.

i wasn’t expecting much this season, and I’m expecting we’ll fall further behind next season.
Cash reserves of £231,000,000 last May, and yet we’re pleading poverty in January….
WTF is going on?

N10
N10

Mustafi the same rating as Sokratis? Ramsey was much better than a 5, more like a 6 or 6.5.

We’ve had terrible luck with injuries. I hope this problem gets a lot of attention for the rest of the season.

When we have had Bellerin in the game with Sokratis and another solid CB (it was Holding, now Kos), our D shines and frees up the midfield to focus upfield. Emery’s plans can come to fruition.

If you look hard at the quality in our squad it simply isn’t there, especially at the back. We have good players who can overachieve on occasion, but I feel like Emery is trying to get blood from a stone. I wish we as a fan community were more united in our support.

Thierry Bergkamp
Thierry Bergkamp

That defence hasn’t looked solid all season, yes, including that unbeaten run

N10
N10

Fair enough, but: Bellerin Sok Kos Kola back four was excellent and the first time we saw it all season. Holding was certainly Holding it down. And with back 3 +2 wingbacks, Sok and Holding could contain Mustafi’s weaknesses.

It’s just a bit tragic that our worst first team CB, Mustafi, is the only one who hasn’t had a serious injury all season. And Kola can’t do his Kola thing alone, when Bellerin balances out that running up the channels strategy he’s lethal and then Iwobi is all of a sudden a much better player.

I’m just sick of the fecking nonsense re Emery. People really don’t know how to just put something on the back shelf and leave it alone. In other words, #LeaveEmeryAlone.

And no, Caligunner, it’s not unusual at all for a new manager to tinker in his FIRST YEAR of a 3 year contract. Especially when he’s had 3 season-ending injuries among an already-thin squad and needs to get new ideas in and keep things going. Talk to me in two years.

S.London Gunner
S.London Gunner

What is the moral panic over?

We lost our best central pairing which disrupted our momentum, controlled the game for the most part and worked it really well, missed a couple of good chances and got punished by a very fast and talented team on the counter.

We lost a great game of football in which we were unlucky with injuries – no more analysis required at this point

Would bump all these ratings up by at least 1, you can play well and not win – just one of those days

btw
btw

Agreed, I thought we played well, AMN as well. But to read here everyone was shit. United had the rub of the green, but playing like that we would beat most teams. Losing Socrates and Koscielny to injury, what do people expect.

Berlingoon
Berlingoon

Thanks man, at least one sane comment when a lot of fans act like United was classes above us. We were better in almost every stat of the game. Just that we had 10-15 minutes each after the 2 injuries and in that time we lost the game. I’m proud how the boys fought and far from embarrassed or anything like that.
As a fan I’d rather think about a pretty poor atmosphere inside the stadium and loads and loads of empty seats 15 minutes before the final whistle again. Do you guys really think our fans have deserved better? I think they’re still quite spoiled comparing the team performances to theirs.
It’s getting ridiculous. They’re all just waiting for something to go wrong to get on the back of the manager, the players or the owners. A bit of self reflection how maybe the supporters could help with support (crazy thought, I know) during difficult times, is the least thing they think about. The first thought is always to get someone out of the club because he’s not Arsenal quality. What’s not arsenal quality are big parts of our fanbase.

kaius
kaius

Fully agreed with your first paragraph, esp thought we did well to regroup and pin them back before half-time.

As for the rest of your comment attacking our fans (as usual for you), you do realise no-one wants to be stuck on packed public transport on a Friday night? Except maybe Newcastle(?), every other club’s fans would head for the exits having gone 1-3 down at home in a Cup tournament of minor importance.

Before the Emirates, it was the Highbury Library. We will never be Dortmund’s Yellow Wall, so get over it. We still have the 2nd highest home attendance in England and our fans make our stadium the most profitable in Europe, but to you they’re “spoiled”.

It’s easy for extremely online types sat on the comfort of their sofas to whine about those who actually shell out their hard-earned cash to travel and support the club. Anyway, where’s the positive words for the fans who go to every game and stay til the end?

I’d suggest a little self-reflection on your part. Scapegoating the fanbase is a terrible addiction.

Berlingoon
Berlingoon

I spend as much money for the few times I come over to London per season as other guys spend for a season ticket. And I’ve always been there when the game kicked off and I always stayed until the final whistle. When you think it’s normal to leave the stadium 15 minutes before the final whistle in a game in which you‘ve lost your 2 cb‘s to injury and against the most in form team in the league, because you think we don’t have a chance to come back from 2 goals behind, than you’re not the one who should tell me about self reflection.
And again I’m not saying the whole fan base but big parts of it. You always seem to miss that part for some reason. If you’re not one of them, you don’t have to feel bothered. But you’ve just stated that you think it’s ok to come late and leave early. But you think you’ve deserved better. And that’s another difference between me and you, mate. I don’t always feel betrayed by the club. I know there are things in life that are worth being angry and depressed about. Football for me isn’t one of them.
We fought hard yesterday, we were unlucky with injuries, we lost against a top side on very good form. Shit, but life goes on.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Berlingoon I get what you’re saying but I think you’re wrong to judge all of the fans that leave early, they have their lives to get back to you know! It’s great that you’re always there until the final minute, other people might have other priorities or transport concerns. And especially on a Friday night when many will be wanting to get back to their families/friends/whatever after a long week.

It’s not nice to the see the stadium half empty on occasion but I think we fuss about it far too much. If people want to leave early, that’s absolutely their prerogative.

kaius
kaius

There was a discussion about this last season and Berlingoon was asked how many times he went a year and said once. He’s now upgraded himself to “a few times” a season lol.

Everyone wants a full stadium for 90 mins, but you have to be a bit of a sociopath not to acknowledge the very practical realities of mass transit in a huge city like London on a Friday night.

kaius
kaius

Wait, when did I say I felt “betrayed” by the club? You’re such a weirdo.

Regulars who went last night, bought food, drink and merch and left early are still contributing far more to the club than you and your few fictional trips a season. Even if you travel all the way from Australia, Arsenal aren’t making money from your airline ticket so how much you personally claim to spend is irrelevant.

We should all encourage Gooners to stay behind and clap the team off at the end. But you take it a bit far with that rude, arrogant tone. Who the f*ck do you think you are?

I don’t care if a few fans went home early. I’m thankful they went along on for a Friday evening kickoff which can be a nightmare to get to. To be honest I doubt many fans gave a toss about losing in the FA Cup. Anyone with a functioning brain who doesn’t hold some weirdo grudge against their own team’s fans knows we have bigger fish to fry this season.

mashkeyboardgetusername
mashkeyboardgetusername

Do we really have the 2nd highest home attendance in England? I don’t think we do in terms of how many fans actually turn up to each game, it’s just that Arsenal report attendance as tickets sold for some reason.

kaius
kaius

Yeah there’s some dispute about how accurate the figures are, but yes we have the 2nd highest home attendance after Utd.

I specified *home* attendance because Sp*ds actually have a higher attendance at Wembley, but they’re homeless goblins and they don’t count.

kaius
kaius

“No more analysis required”

That’s my motto this season. Some people are gonna give themselves a heart attack trying to over-analyse us. It’s a transition year guys, you win some, you lose some.

Ross
Ross

I thought Ramsey worked hard and deserved a better rating than that. He was regularly running past others to press and was always trying to keep the tempo up, often running off the pitch to collect the ball and take quick throw ins to keep us moving

Hurensohn
Hurensohn

You could see he was trying harder than usual tonight but when we’ve got the ball he just marks the opposition CB. It helps the opposition to sit in a defensive position. You can make runs into the box but there’s no point in just standing there with the other CFs..

Nick
Nick

You thought he was regularly running past others, and always trying to keep the tempo up. Blogs called him a trundler who looked a bit lost for long stretches. One of you is talking nonsense apparently.

Berlingoon
Berlingoon

Blogs hasn’t written this

Nick
Nick

You’re right, mate. Blogs didn’t even remotely imply that he trundled about or looked a bit lost. Juve are getting the best player to ever lace up a pair of boots.

Will
Will

Little harsh on some of these ratings I think. With nothing doing on the other side and few runs into the box, how is iwobi supposed to get better end product? Torriera same kind of thing. He was tidy and made some important tackles. Of course he’ll be a little behind here and there if he has to press and cover for the outside backs

Rayk 47

Am I the only one annoyed by Özil not at least trying to pressure Pogba in the run-up to the third? Sure, maybe you can’t win the ball back, but you can put him off a bit…

Alex
Alex

And Torreira? It is his job, no?

Mpls
Mpls

You could tell Xhaka was trying to both cover Pogba and not commit too early to give a free run to Rashford on the right, so his hands were full. Between Torreira and Mustafi one of them should have stepped up to Pogba and the other actually mark Martial.

Mustafi should have stepped up.

Hurensohn
Hurensohn

If Ramsey could have stayed closer to Rashford it would have given us a better chance but he didn’t realise the danger until it was too late too.

Nordin
Nordin

Move on from your Özil hatred. We lost not because of Özil!!

Nordin
Nordin

Move on from your Özil hatred. We didnt lose the match because of Özil!!

NC Gooner
NC Gooner

I think Kolasinac is being miscredited with the creation of Auba’s goal in the ratings above. He brought the ball into their half, but Ramsey made that goal happen. Ramsey should at least have a 6 IMO.

Doesn’t make a difference in the grand scheme of things, but Rambo deserves the credit there.

Thierry Bergkamp
Thierry Bergkamp

Seen matches like this, all too often over the last 11 or 12 years, when will we see a change. That wasnt even a great Utd team.
They gave us a 10 point headstart in the league and they’ll probably be ahead of us within 2 matches.

BigArse
BigArse

Your first paragraph has some merit, but we are running more, we are working harder, and this is a big change. Tonights result sucks but I do think a culture change is happening, we won’t be outworked, we will change our style of play depending on our opponents. It’s going to take a while but I still think we are on the right track.
Your second paragraph is negative hysterical nonsense that deserves a good sound slap to snap you out of it. Sp*rs have everyone injured. Ole’s honeymoon will end. Sarri has pinned it all on a 31 year old striker whose never played in the premier league. All our top four rivals have problems too. We can fucking take them.

kaius
kaius

Comment of the week mate.

Higuain is coming to the Premier League too late and out of form, and once the CL starts again Utd will struggle after they got knocked out by Kylian Mbappe.

BigArse
BigArse

Looks like we need to buy a centre back or we’re facked.

YoungFabregas
YoungFabregas

Terrible result, but it was a good game of football until their third goal. I agree with Emery’s post match comments, the defensive injuries seemed to halt our momentum a bit though 🙁

FanniboyWelbz
FanniboyWelbz

Hello Young Fabregas. Can we just go back to 2006? Before the CL final

Swifty
Swifty

On a positive note this loss made me indulge in soothing brandy.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Iwobi and especially Ramsey deserved higher but otherwise I think the ratings are fair. Not sure what was up with our tactics, obvious choice would have been to play the same team as we had against Chelsea and match up with United’s diamond. But instead we ended up playing Aubameyang wide right! He didn’t look comfortable there at all.

Defending was very shoddy, especially the second goal. Lacked penetration up top as well; sometimes you need a bit of power and dynamism to break a team down, and we just don’t have it. We played like how Chelsea played against us, slow and overly intricate. Laca, Auba, Ozil were all guilty of overplaying the ball. I might be crucified for this but I thought we missed Sanchez today (or a better player of his type). Yeah, he lost the ball a lot, but he’s also not afraid to have a pop from a good position, to dink the ball in the box, to try and beat a man. Right now, we’re far too timid in the final third.

Guendouzispirit

I’m sorry but I don’t agree with all the people on here saying Ramsey was great. He was shocking, all that toothless running without any sort of end product exactly why we didn’t renew his contract. Glad he’s effing off to Juve honestly. You can disagree all you like but last year most of you would have said the same and now he’s leaving and somehow I’m supposed to be the opposite way?

I think the rating is harsh for Maitland-Niles who played out of his skin! He was at fault for letting Alexis be on for the first and maybe caught on the overlap too often but apart from that he was sensational. I’d like to see the stats on how many interceptions he made he was fantastic. I’m not even his greatest advocate.
Lastly, Iwobi tried hard but again his lack of invention is really evident. He’s just not that great at creating chances, brilliant dribbler but that’s about it.
And sorry if I didnt pander to your opinion because I have the capability of having my own

btw
btw

Agree on AMN, not on Ramsey, though he faded in the end, as the whole team did.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Odd you’d say Ramsey lacked end product when he basically created our goal. Your comment totally ignores Ramsey’s contribution to our attacking play; what good we did going forward, went through him. And I will disagree all I like, thank you very much! Especially because he’s going for free.

Agree AMN had a better game than Blogs is making out.

Mpls
Mpls

Agree on AMN. He was up against Alexis and Pogba all match. Not easy for any defender. He didn’t shrink away from it at all.

assistantref
assistantref

Can see why Cech is retiring. Poor for both the second and third. Why step away from your near post on the 2nd? You shouldn’t let in a goal at our near post like that. If he goes far post and puts it in the corner fine, you hold up your hands. But don’t get beaten at your near.

Bit of a recurring pattern too.

Bob
Bob

I’ve seen people criticise the quality in our squad a lot, and don’t get me wrong I’d love it if we pulled in a few new players to improve it in key areas (I’m looking at you defence!)

However, I definitely feel the manager should be getting more out of the squad. We have a star attack, if it’s set up well. But frankly none of the players on the field know what they are meant to be doing. There is no system or philosophy that is being worked towards. And what scares me the most is that we are setting up like a small club, trying to solely set up for the opposition, not making them set up for us.

I’m still behind Emery, but he needs to be show us a bit more quality in his work, regardless of how much he does of it. Our squad isn’t world class, but we all know the quality some of our players are capable of, and so far he is doing a poor job of getting it out of them on any consistent basis, and I think that’s hugely down to the players not really knowing what he wants overall.

Devlin
Devlin

I wonder how people can say we have improved against the top sides. We have played 9 games against the top 5, won 2, drew 2, and lost 5.

I know we look more competitive, but our stats say we are worse in those games. It’s like with Iwobi, he looked busy and dangerous, but without an end product, what’s the point? That seems to be us this season. We praise players for what they look like their doing instead of focusing on what we are actually getting from them.

Lacazette is a special player though. If he were in a better or more organized side, he would considered as one of the best players on the planet. It’s just a pity that his layoffs do end up costing us sometimes and people don’t dwell on them.

Mpls
Mpls

“We praise players for what they look like they’re doing instead of focusing on what we are actually getting from them.”

Well put.

scott rice
scott rice

I agree with you Devlin about Lacazette. He works so hard. I think he and Auba would score more if they received a better (and quicker) service from their team mates. Too many passes go sideways or backwards.

santori
santori

1) Cech – He’s slower than before for sure but he should have done better for all 3 goals against us. Came out well enough for the first but did not block the shot. Second goal maybe it was the power but it was a shot close enough to him to do better. Third one was just poor palming it back toward Martial. I have reservations about letting him go this summer only bc I’m not sure with the sort of budget ‘limitations’ we like to impose on ourselves that we will get someone better. BUT you have to wonder.

2) AMN – Naturally they target our right. Thought AMN was combative for most parts. Put in a critical headed clearance with Alexis bearing in far post in second half. BUT without Bellerin (and at no fault to AMN), we are bereft of any width or threat from the right side.

3) Sokratis – I thought we were doing well until he got the knock. Most unfortunate and hope he recovers quickly.

4) koscielny – Got the positioning slightly wrong for the second goal against us. I was worried about him sustaining through the rest of season but did not expect him to have his jaw knocked off by Lukaku.

5) Kolasinac – Bore down at their goal well first half but United like to exploit the wide areas so when we did not close down in midfield quick enough, their immediate outlet were to the flanks and behind our committed fullbacks.

6) Granit – We were alright controlling the game until those quick succession goals. Don’t think Granit is the right player to play as a Cback even if he tried very hard and did in general OK. But midfield also failed to track runners into the box (like Alexis).

7) Torreira – He hasn’t been able to stamp enough authority in midfield like when he first started. Again we were OK bossing it first half but as the game wore on (and they lumped in Matic), we started to lose control of the middle too much.

8) Ramsey – MOTM for us. Everywhere. And we are getting rid of him.

9) Iwobi – Everything dangerous for us came from the left side. Ahsley Young of course was weak but when Iwobi was taken off, we still exhibited some element of threat albeit without the danger Iwobi imposed taking on players. Not sure why some people still feel compelled to diss the young man because he works his socks off, controls and protects the ball and in general is the only player we have in the team able to take on and pull the other team out of shape.

10) Lacazette – faded as the game wore on. Some shots at goal but too close to Romero. Peeled to the right a number of times to add some threat from that side. A couple of chances I felt we took one touch too many and should have just hit first time but then again when we first started the game, we were guilty of being too impatient.

11) Auba – Got us the goal with the overload. Went right after the half but he has troubles in general competing for the ball or holding it. We just lack option from the right but Transfer team has not fixed this for some years now. In fact when Alexis was with us, Wenger needed to balance out the left side with a right sided player (particularly after we lost the Ox, Gnabry and Walcott in quick succession) Nothing done.

12) Mustafi – Came in, put in a no nonsense tackle and then we conceded. BUT he is only partially culpable for the first goal as Alexis was not tracked by the midfield. This has been an issue for the team defensively for a long while now. Otherwise did decent but we now face the prospect of having him as primary Cback with a selection of Lichsteiner, Granit, Elneny or Monreal (as Cback partner/s) either 3 at the back or 4 at the back. Hopefully Sokratis recovers quickly otherwise…

13) Ozil – 350K of largely anonymous contribution. Can’t find a buyer. I’ll polish the bench twice as hard for half the price if Emery likes. He won’t dig you out of these sort of games.

14) Guendouzi – I thought he did well when he came on. He buzzed around for us, was in the fights and carried the ball forward, fizzed in one superbly dangerous diagonal ball to their far post which unfortunately Laca could not get to and instead threw their player against their post. Bright as usual from the young lad.

Gaffer – Understand the reasoning behind playing the same Cbacks (perhaps he was hoping to swap in Mustafi for Cardiff) but unforseen (and common to Arsenal) circumstance conspired to take out the Cback pairing of choice today. Tried to throw in the kitchen sink with Guendouzi and Ozil but alas that is the extent of the plumbing available to him.

We need a couple of players (one for Rwing) but we are now resorting to panic loans. And they say we are doing better in the transfer market.

scott rice
scott rice

I agree Santori with virtually everything you have just said. I only want to add we need to reduce the passes going sideways and backwards.

Jht
Jht

Good old arsenal; different manager same shit explanations

John Griffiths
John Griffiths

How come Steve Bould still has a job after years of failing to organise our defence?

Ram
Ram

Even if Arsenal have Messi or Ronaldo in their team along with Auba and Laca in attacking positions without proper defense in the team, you achieve nothing with that.
Arsenal have no balance in their team…. Like
Attack:- Strong (May become even stronger with proper Wingers)
Midfield:- Average (Xhaka not good enough, Ozil’s creativity is over)
Defense:- Weak probably weakest considering the injuries.
So it’s very difficult and saddest thing to expect lot from this unbalanced Arsenal team.

As long as they don’t fix this defensive problem then it will be same story for Arsenal every season to come.

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

Arseblog and other you do realize that a ball bounced just in front of the Cech and that he couldn’t push ball out for the corner? The mess made the defense and not Cech.

Moxrex
Moxrex

I would say that the problem Arsenal is facing with starts after 2007 when David Dean left his position as Vice Chairman.

During Dein’s time at the club, he was responsible for football matters taking an active role in the transfer of players and contract negotiations where he was able to use his extensive network of football contacts. Dein was behind the appointment of the then little known Arsène Wenger to the manager’s job in 1996; under Wenger, Arsenal have won the Premier League three times and the FA Cup seven times, and Dein strongly backed him and his transfer wishes throughout.

Ian Wright states that, “He [David Dein] was always very close to the players, he know us all and was always concerned with how we were, how things were going for us, away from the club and within it. He was like a father figure to us, and everybody loved him.”

On 18 April 2007, it was revealed by Arsenal that Dein had left the club with immediate effect after “irreconcilable differences” between himself and the rest of the board. It is thought that he was in favour of a possible takeover of Arsenal by an external benefactor seeking to invest money into the club. Arsenal had invested heavily in the development of their new stadium which forced the club to take on heavy debts which meant the club was in need of new revenue.

Dein wanted someone to invest money into the club not to take money out of it, the thing about American owners in EPL is that they don’t invest enough (exception Liverpool).

Dein was replaced by Ivan Gazidis who had no connections in the European football before joining Arsenal. He had roots in MLS which didn’t help Arsenal much.

Just share the average position decade wise for Arsenal:
1910-19 11
1920-29 10.8
1930-39 3.5
1940-49 5.5
1950-59 6.1
1960-69 9.6
1970-79 8.3
1980-89 5.2
1990-99 4.6
2000-09 2.5
2010-19 3.8

Average position in the Divisions
Division 2 5.3
Division 1 7.5
Premier 3.7

David Dein Factor:
Before Dein 7.4
Division 1 4.5
Premier League 3.7

With Arsene Wenger 3

Arsene with Dein 2.2
Arsene without Dein 3.8

Cutting the story short, problems with Arsenal lie at board level, we need someone who bleeds Red & White. Someone who wants to invest his money in it and feels the pain of the supporters and can empathize with players and the manager. May be when Monchi comes in it would get better otherwise it looks down hill to me. Otherwise we will stay where we belong (Average position for Arsenal is 6.45 where we stand)

Freshgooner
Freshgooner

This is going to be unpopular but are lacazettes stats good? I just feel like he’s not converting the chances too many bad touches at critical moments, didn’t he lose the ball that led to the 3rd goal. I am sure that hes lost the ball at least 2 other times that led to a an opponent scoring? Am I a just missing something.

Mpls
Mpls

Yes, he misplaced that pass, but we really can’t keep blaming goals on a forward losing a ball in the attacking third of the pitch. That’s kind of the reason we have defenders and defensive midfielders. In theory, anyway.

PTAFC

Surely a quality manager can teach his team to defend and organise them regardless of who he inherited? All internationals ffs.

gendouziremindsmeofdiabysortof
gendouziremindsmeofdiabysortof

Mustafi was most culpable for the Alexis goal, not Kos. Just terrible. Give him a 2.

Rectum Spectrum
Rectum Spectrum

despite the injury crisis selling Mustafi would actually increase the quality of the squad.