Arsenal have taken just two points from the last fifteen away from home, and today’s 1-0 defeat to West Ham was a very disappointing result and performance. Declan Rice’s second half goal was enough for the Hammers to take all three points, and in general the Gunners didn’t threaten former teammate Lukasz Fabianski.

Read the West Ham 1-0 Arsenal match report and see the goal here

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Monkey G
Monkey G

Emery 0/10, put him out of his misery. #EmeryOuy

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts

“#EmeryOuy” sums your comment up for me.

goonshow
goonshow

If you cannot see past a manager, who has actually brought some life into an at best average group of demotivated and confused players he inherited, to the real villians of this piece i.e. our ‘board’… then you’re an even larger muppet than your pitifully misspelled hashtag suggests.

Reality check
Reality check

Goonshow

Partly disagree, this squad is anything but average. Our attack is definitly better than Chelsea and spuds and can even make a good case against Liverpool’s too. We needed a culture change, bring some defensive solidity and then biild on from there. But instead, we went for a Basque Wenger.
As far as Ozil situation is concerned. I think the Neymar situation is still playing on Emery’s mind or may be there are instructions from higher up to pi$$ Ozil off to the point where he asks to leave. I can’t think of any other reason tbh. Emery is not even playing high press or a particular defensive style. Guendouzi and xhaka are even more dangrous defensively so why only single out Ozil and commit a PR suicide.

OnAnyBlock
OnAnyBlock

Apart from Auba and Laca, who are better than Morata (which is just poor investment: £75M and the club initially wanted Lukaku, who isn’t much better) which of our players would get into a composite team playing 433/4321??
Even if we want to be incredibly generous and say Torreira and Kante play together to accommodate Ozil as a pure 10, the fact is pretty much all their wide forwards would stroll into our first team.

Which of our front three would displace Mane, Salah, and Firmino? You could probably argue Lacazette for the latter based on how they play. However, once again, there aren’t many players in our team who would get into theirs from an attacking perspective.

I’m not even going to address Sp*rs.

I’d just rather we weren’t deliberately blinded by our partisanship…it isn’t disloyal to be balanced and honest.

The fact is these issues have long persisted with Mesut, and the fact that he had six months left on his contract…and not a single big club showed an iota of interest should really tell you all you need to know.

Mesut staying at this club was definitely not him “doing us a favour”. Also, premiership football is an unforgiving place.

John C
John C

Absolutely, to come to the conclusion that any of our players are better than Hazard, Pedro, Willian, Ali, Kane, Mane, Firmino, Salah or even Song is so blinded to reality it’s beggars belief.

None of those teams would want any of our attackers apart from perhaps Aubameyang or Lacazette, the rest are nowhere near those. Seriously Iwobi is generously at best a lower midtable level player.

Clive
Clive

How do you bring a nineteen year old kid in and play him at CDM where he is at best average and then surreptitiously change the system, promote him to your CM and the blind can see he doesn’t have the qualities yet to run a top 6 club’s midfield. The kid is improving leaps and bounds but what a responsibility to put on his young shoulders. When did it become good football to have sixty or seventy percent possession in your own defensive third. Not Chelsea nor Liverpool, Tottenham or Manchester City or United spend as much time in their own backfield (and have possession?) Ridiculous. And what if you were to counterattack from drawing the opposing defenders into poor positions why omit your foremost player to make those passes. Seems like sabotaging one’s self. Another Man U brewing!

PoopyMccheese
PoopyMccheese

Seriously what the fuck is he talking about ? Emerys done wonders for us this season so far. He inherited a team that has consistently underperformed and wasn’t given much of a budget to change things. The signings he has made though are impacting our team in a positive way, look at Torreria prime example. Leno, Sokratis, Guendouzi, have all been good and are in their first seasons so we can expect more in the future. Doesn’t help being owned by Kroenke who wont put even $1 of his own money into the club so we could buy the right players our club so desperately need. For what hes been given hes done really well so far, hes gonna have bad games like yesterday once in awhile.> We dont need negative assholes like we had the last 2 years of Wengers reign.

alex alexsson
alex alexsson

who do you replace him with? Really don’t see how sacking emery would be a constructive solution. Issues go well beyond the manager and are gonna take a good while to sort out #kroenkeout

Chmackhyungpark
Chmackhyungpark

What exactly is sacking Emery going to achieve? Clearly we need better players. I agree that so far Emery has not bowled us over and his team selection frustrates me. Ramsey (letting him go is madness) should start over Douzie every time and he needs to get Ozil playing. But it wasn’t long ago we were singing “we’ve got our Arsenal back’ and this comment section was full of praise for him. Let’s give him a full season before we can judge him, we seem to forget how completely shite we were last year and it is going to take more than just a new manager to change that. We need investment in our squad.

Neil
Neil

Ramsey gives the ball away far too much. We need another solution entirely.

Alex
Alex

We were singing UE, yes, and we stopped. Funnily, we sang him when Özil was playing. We stopped when he stopped playing him. Not because of Özil but because of the results and the shitty game plans.

Chamackhyungpark
Chamackhyungpark

Ozil played almost all the games last year. Still absolutely pish. We need better players, that’s the long and the short of it. About 6 or 7 of the starting line up need replaced.

Mpls
Mpls

At least we were absolutely posh with chances created. You said it yourself- 6-7 need replacing. Ozil was never at fault for a lackluster team balance.

Chamakhyungark
Chamakhyungark

Yup. Never said he was

Devlin
Devlin

Jardim is available.

Emery in Aubalaca wonderland
Emery in Aubalaca wonderland

Jardim was sacked because they sold all his good players and Henry got stuck with the weak squad. It is all about investment not the manager.

Mpls
Mpls

So apparently team selection makes no difference then?

Easy tiger
Easy tiger

So why have an overpaid manager at all?

Jake
Jake

Arteta still an option… Was the first choice after all 😕

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

That’s a stupid choice Right there. Might as well go for henry

alex alexsson
alex alexsson

Really don’t see how Jardim or Arteta could do a better job with no funds. Sacking Emery now would put us back to square one come the start of next season (eg. seeding out the best XI, deciding how we’re gonna play, adapting to new tactics / formation etc). Lets give Emery a bit of time to clear out the dead wood and get something of a cohesive squad together. If we’re still pants 2-3 seasons down the line, fair play at least we tried, hopefully we’ll have moved slightly in the right direction. I’m as frustrated as any other fan after today’s result & performance but sacking Emery now would be nothing short of madness imo.

Bob
Bob

yes, that proven coach of Mikel Arteta wanted by diamond eye Gazidis

Woolwich Shepherd
Woolwich Shepherd

The question I have is what happened between the early season run and today? It’s the same manager that we were praising over a month ago. The answer is Ozil. Or, rather his absence. Nobody believes he really is injured, do they? The bad relationship between Ozil and the manager has poisoned the atmosphere.

Atom
Atom

During the winning run we weren’t playing particularly well – other teams simply weren’t taking their chances. Ozil hasn’t played particularly well since he got the new contract. He’s had the odd great game but by and large has been pretty average at best. Wenger / Gazidis made a real mess of things the past few years with contracts and squad construction. This never was going to be as simple as hiring a new coach fixing everything. Ozil whole talented is also becoming the new Campbell or Perez – the longer he’s out of the team the more a section of the fanbase views him as the solution to all problems.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

@Atom I actually started calling it the Joel Campbell Effect; the longer a player is out of action while his team is struggling, the better he becomes in the minds of the fans. Sit out a couple of drubbings and you become a world beater.

Alex
Alex

There is no bad relation from Özil to UE. The opposite though…

Yankee Gooner
Yankee Gooner

The first part of this response (“who do you replace him with?”), when said to defend Wenger, earned the commenter a rightful caning, fwiw.

Paul
Paul

Mourinho is available! (Grass greener etc)

N7 Gooner
N7 Gooner

Hilarious if intended that way

Bydeen
Bydeen

I am not buying this crap about Ozil not in the squad for tactical reason. For one, I haven’t seen any tactics shift. At least non that obvious that Emery can convince me is beyond Ozil’s talent and that AMN, Iwobi, Ramsey or Mickey are better suited to. Freezing him out of the team is just wise

Bydeen
Bydeen

Typo. Meant to say not wise

martin
martin

Did you say that during out 22 undefeated run. Did you say that when we thrashes Spurs. Yes he has made mistakes but this is his first season so he must be given some time. To sack him after half a season would be madness. The toxicity and knee jerk reactions of some our supporters sickens me

Yankee Gooner
Yankee Gooner

People actually were saying this, yes.

Casimir KnightI
Casimir KnightI

I totally agree but I think there is a legitimate concern the UE has a problem with creative players. The toxic Ozil situation and pushing Ramsey out of the club may be part of a pattern where talented creative types don’t / can’t fit in? That’s a worry for me.

goonshow
goonshow

I’d be interested to know on what you base your rather sweeping generalisation that UE has ‘a problem with creative players’`???

Vonnie
Vonnie

It’s all in the biography, he’s always had problems with intelligent players.

Daniel
Daniel

This! First letting go of Wilshere and Cazorla, now freezing out Ozil and letting Ramsey go.
All the past problems remained, but now we can’t even pass, create or control the ball, let alone matches…

John Lavery

Really! be sensible, Ask your self, where are Wilshere and Santi now? Whilst we are all delighted that Santi is playing again do you really think that bringing him back is good for the future of the club? No, we need to give UE a lot more time. Remember what was being said about Klopp in his first and second season with Liverpool? Cries of OUT every week, now you could get killed if you said Kloop was no good. He is the best manager currently in the EPL and that is because he was given time and money to build a great team. The same thing has to take place at Arsenal. Ramsey is leaving because he wants to leave. Ozil is not playing because he has not convinced UE and the supporters that he is consistent enough. I would rather have Guendouzi playing with his heart on his sleeve than an Ozil who plays when he feels like it. It is now clear that, as was mentioned, some of the first team are not going to win the Premiership for you and you can name them yourself, they are the same guys every week who serve up shambolic performances, clearly out of their league. Not good enough for the EPL. If UE cannot depend on Mr.K for the necessary dosh to buy then he is going to have to turn to the kids in the U/23s. Loans are good at this stage of the year with an option to buy should it all work out but bottom line UE cannot work miracles with what Wenger left him. So the only thing we can do is give him time like Liverpool gave Klopp.

James
James

Frankly these marks are in general far too high. That was the worst performance of the season. How bad do players actually have to be to get 1s, 2s and 3s
And if we were marking the manager he gets 0/10.

Dave Cee
Dave Cee

I gave Xhaka a 2..and that was probably 2 generous

Fireman Sam
Fireman Sam

We can all see Xhaka’s major weaknesses yet it’s sad but true that most of us would still have to play him if we were in Unai’s position. What does that tell us? That the squad is simply pretty shite.

Thimothé Luvungo
Thimothé Luvungo

Xhaka is a good player but he has a huge shorcoming : his body position, xhaka always control the ball in a wrong way, as a consequence he is not able to play fast because he has to take a extra touch before giving the ball. An other consequence is that his body position makes him a target for our opponents, as it is easier to press him, that is for me why xhaka often tends to give the ball back to the player that gave him the ball, contrary to torreira who is often controlling the ball in the right way. Emery has done a good job to make him play faster but xhaka needs to improve in this area to become reliable in those type of games where our opponents will press us.

goonshow
goonshow

As an excercise (and to try to dull the pain of watching that stumbling shambles today) I watched Xhaka in detail for the last 10 of the first half and beginning 10 of the second. In that time he made 14 passes, of which ELEVEN were backwards!!!!
Please can we have our Santi back?

Jack
Jack

Guendouzi – fine to play him in the league cup or maybe to keep things ticking in midfield when winning comfortably, but do not play him in important games like this.

Alex James legend
Alex James legend

Yes your right and we need more first team quality but he was always looking for the ball, a ball between the lines a few times and a few decent efforts on goal. The one in the first half goes in were going mad for him fine lines and all that. 19 and this whole season is new for him and was still showing more than some experienced internationals. All that and he is being targeted by other teams players for the roughing up treatment. He needs protecting a bit but I’m sure and hope he will be a fantastic player for us in the coming season. Fuck the owner.

Hurensohn
Hurensohn

Xhaka cost us the game, if anyone it should be his place in the side up for debate. He’s a total liability.

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

Like I said a few weeks ago. Emery is digging his own grave with not playing Ozil. No one is questioning the result but the football we are playing. If he doesn’t change his attituted he won’t be here this time next year. Unless Ozil is doing something horrible to him I will be on the German’s side because he has been at the club longer and loves Arsenal. Emery has been here only for 8 months. It is just another job for him.

A Fleeting Glimpse
A Fleeting Glimpse

Lacazette and Aubameyang had very little service. I have to say Emery seems an arrogant obnoxious man in his interviews. He will we sacked by this time next year me thinks. What he’s doing with Ozil sums him up. Rather have Dick Emery at the moment

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Lacazette and Aubameyang didn’t get a lot of service but tbh I thought they were poor individually as well. As a top class striker, sometimes you’ve got to make something from nothing, you’ve got to come deep and bring others into play. You’ve got to drive at the defence, challenge for second balls, and generally make a nuisance of yourself. Neither managed that today, or managed to show much quality at all outside the opening 10 minutes.

goonshow
goonshow

Laca at least always seems to make some effort. Auba was shockingly disinterested today… ambling around, little of his usual energetic pressing, sloppy passing

Vonnie
Vonnie

I don’t think the players are happy with the manager or the team selections. When you’re a striker having to help out the defence and go deep to collect the ball because there’s no midfield then eventually you’re going to get pissed off. Especially when your friend, the best creator, is left at home because the manager doesn’t like him. Players aren’t machines or idiots, they know who the best players are, and they know what works and doesn’t. All our players bought in to the new training and supported Unai, but they’re starting to question, in exactly the way we are starting to question, what the hell is the actual plan here. It looks like there isn’t one, and to let the squad know that we have no money and aren’t going to strengthen while our competitors do, is lunacy.

Giddygun
Giddygun

This is the comment that tried to mirror it well, imho. When a team starts questioning a manager in their minds like the case of Mourinho’s in Chelsea(2), Real, and Man U just now, the issue is not quality of player but mistrust. This then usually results in poor focus and implementation of strategy

sambo
sambo

Doesn’t like him? I love Ozil but there is NO excuse for the weak hustle he puts in for us, Emery tried to teach him a simple lesson, work hard and you will play… but Ozil seems to be above that?

scott rice
scott rice

I agree with your first sentence but I disagree with the rest.

scott rice
scott rice

I was replying to “a fleeting glimpse”. Somehow my comments were placed out of sequence. Probably my fault. Sorry – fairly new to this.

Parisian Weetabix
Parisian Weetabix

What are you on about saying Emery seems arrogant and obnoxious? What interviews are you watching?

The Ozil situation is a massive issue but it’s not one that can be placed solely at the feet of the manager. This match summed it up perfectly. West Ham started with three creative players up front: Arnautovic, Anderson, and Nasri. Three players who have the technique to carry the ball, the creativity to make stuff happen, and who can also score goals. Comparatively, we had one: Iwobi. Laca and Auba are forwards, not creators, and that was clear today.

Who’s to blame for this lack of creativity? NOT EMERY, for crying out loud. And of course we’re all yelling at him to bring in Ozil because since he last played all we’ve seen of him is his YouTube highlight reels and we’re convincing ourselves he’s a consistently good player but he’s not, he’s unreliable and as annoying as that might be that’s the truth – and to top it all he doesn’t work hard enough to make up for it. And Emery is AWARE OF THIS. He’s trying to bring in Denis Suarez, he’s possibly trying to bring in Yannick Carrasco because he’s been at this club six months and he’s as aware as the rest of us of this massive dearth in creativity.

Ozil’s not the answer. Ramsey’s not the answer. Getting pissed off at Emery, calling him undeserved names and demanding he be sacked clearly isn’t the answer. The truth is this team is crying out for the type of creative players like de Bruyne, Bernardo and David Silva, Mane, Firmino, Pedro – hell, Eriksen and Son – players who can create, who may not be consistently brilliant but who will at least press, track back and defend even when it’s not going their way. That’s the answer, and we don’t have that, and the goddamn owners who won’t sanction purchases aren’t helping either.

The whole situation is a frustrating clusterfuck, and it might be for a while. But for the love of God, it’s clear Emery WANTS to bring in more creative players, that’s NOT HIS FAULT, and instead of hurling blame can we please remember we all knew this was going to be a process and it might be harder than anticipated.

Mpls
Mpls

Ozil and Ramsey at his disposal, neither starts. Emery IS to blame for lack of creativity.

Bob
Bob

Didn’t realise I supported Ozil FC and not Arsenal football club. Ozils so “PR” heavy I don’t honestly know what he does think, but running his contract down to 6 months didn’t exactly scream “loves the club” so much as “keeping his options open and getting a massive pay day”. The manager > the player for me, always. If we start sacking managers because a player isn’t doing it for them then we’re an absolute joke. You’re right about one thing though, emery has only been here 8 months. If you expected him to turn around 10 years of decline in 1 season then you were always going to be disappointed.

Jo Lamiri
Jo Lamiri

Let’s not forget Ozil, the brand. If he is playing hardly any football, won’t his many sponsors start to be agitated? He needs to start focusing on the reason for those sponsorships, i.e. the football. I sometimes wonder if he just cares about the commercial side of things. He almost doesn’t need to play anyway…

N10
N10

Strongly agree with Bob here.

The amount of Ozil fanbots on here is a bit annoying. Ozil is displaying a poor example for young players by being irresponsible and not fulfilling his CONTRACTUAL obligations to suck it up and put out quality play for the team.

Emery needs time. I’m not always a fan of his lineup choices. But I’m giving him a lot of slack because of the sorry state of the team when he arrived. Not enough depth and too much mediocrity in the squad to compete with improved rivals this year.

Shropshire Lad
Shropshire Lad

I agree shocking display he must play Ozil and Ramsey from the start; and don’t think
AMN isgood enough for us ,he gave the ball away to many times.

GraeB
GraeB

AMN is lightweight and avoids the challenges. I was watching on Bein and commentator was all but laughing at his “injury”. I don’t need that.

N10
N10

AMN was shocking today, 4 at best. Guendouzi was overall, as well, though a bit better (5), he made several quality passes.

Woolwich Shepherd
Woolwich Shepherd

Whatever happened between Emery and Ozil needs to get sorted out right away. The lack of creativity in the middle is glaring. Does anyone think ownership is trying to sell Ozil this window? There have been now rumors. Any thoughts?

Alex
Alex

The problem is not from Özil who has always behaved in a very professional way. The club otherwise….

Jo Lamiri
Jo Lamiri

Sorry but there is little professional about the lack of effort he puts in in some games. The salary he is on brings responsibility. He should be busting a gut to prove to Emery that he can fit his system, not sulking because he’s being expected to track back, tackle etc.

N10
N10

Ozil being professional? That is ludicrously BEYOND delusional!

Atom
Atom

I think they would sell him in a heartbeat if someone were willing to take him off the wage bill / pay a fee but at this point he’s really unlikely to have any top class suitors willing to do that. None of the tier one clubs need / likely want him (Barcelona / Madrid / psg / city/Juventus/baybern ) and his wages are too high for tier 2 (atlerico/Dortmund etc). Think this is case of new regime pretty much stuck with him baring him being willing to go to china

Spanish Gooner
Spanish Gooner

5 defenders, 2 defensive midfielders and three attackers who don’t press. Protagonists indeed.

GraeB
GraeB

I agree. The point of 3 at the back is to enable more attacking players in front but we rely on converting defenders into wing backs. AMN wants to solve our winger problem – laughable.

A Different George
A Different George

If you are playing Kolasinac, then send him down the wing and give him the ball, wait for the cutback. This may require someone in midfield who can pick out a runner and make a pass. Too bad we have no one like that.

Dobby the house elf
Dobby the house elf

You must be loving this. You’ve been dying for emery to fail since we hired him.

HopefulGooner
HopefulGooner

Exactly! Its one thing to give time to New Manager to implement his philosophy. But if he is not using the resources at his disposal correctly consistently, it begs the question of his competance. People who compare Emery to Klopp need to see that Klopp from day one wanted a better version of Dortmund style he had. There were ups and downs but it never looked lost like us.
I haven’t read/heard a single person who understands what philosophy he is aiming for. If you don’t have funds then use what players you have judiciously!

Artetasilkybush
Artetasilkybush

Would give the whole team 0s if I could’ve to rate the team performance. No fight, no heart, no quality. Zero for emery too, that starting lineup had failure written all over it.

Shite day to help wrap up a personally shite week. Cheers arsenal

Woolwich Shepherd
Woolwich Shepherd

Everyone likes a silly bush.

Woolwich Shepherd
Woolwich Shepherd

That’s how crap today is going. I can’t even get my spell check to work when I want to compliment someone’s silky bush.

Lord Bendnter
Lord Bendnter

We didn’t even deserve to win. It’s just freaking West Ham for God’s sake. If u lose at West Ham, you should be saying “we deserved to win” or “the ref cost us the game” or “we were very unlucky”
But nope, we honestly didn’t deserve to win. It was a deserved loss for such a crap performance.

Frog
Frog

10/10- the idea that you have Mesut Ozil, undoubtably one of the most creative players In The world, yet still think it’s a good idea to not play him because of your ego, as you sit and watch us be absolutely shit, with ZERO creativity.

Emery needs to go.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

a stark example of how everything in and around this club is bad.
fans think the problem is not playing a certain player here or there, the usual clueless-ness about how football is played.
emery needs to “go” because he’s not playing fan favourite M Ozil. not the correct statement.

Frog
Frog

It’s not one or the other. We have both and for The Arsenal FC to succeed we need both to be doing their jobs to the best of their abilities. It’s really quite simple. Play your best players.

OnAnyBlock
OnAnyBlock

@Red-Sky is 100% correct; it is toxic and too many people are simply clueless.

‘frog’…please understand “Play your best players” is not a tactic, system or strategy! It is incoherent to just put big names together and hope for the best, even Arsene didn’t start Auba and Laca together and yet everyone keeps crying out for it.

Real Madrid are the only team to collect the ‘best players’ like infinity stones and firstly, they have a level of performance that doesn’t include at least one brain fart which leads to an opposition goal every game. (We have at least 5 starters that is applicable to, and I’ll leave you to guess them)
Secondly, that approach has seen them primarily win knockout competitions in recent times and struggle in the league.

Our ‘best’ players are far too limited physically and mentally to be considered ‘galacticos’ that must always start together.

Cechmate
Cechmate

This is in fact shows what’s wrong with the club – if Emery fans think by not playing Ozil he is proving a point and getting more out of others then you are wrong. Everything started unraveling due to this feud and Emery needs to put his ego aside for the sake of club and let Ozil play.

It’s not just Ozil, I just don’t see anyone in this team pressing or snuffing out attacks early. You can’t just get into a club and say ‘I want to change all players to fit my system’s as the club would have already invested in them and just can’t change the whole system (unless you are in one of those oily ones). Whether you like it or not, if we do that we’ll be left with players that suit just one style (the manager’s) and when the manager leaves we’ll be worse off.

Manager needs to balance sides – football is a team game, if you play Ozil you need to have a strong DM and a ball carrier. In other matches (I accept Emery’s approach of not playing Ozil in certain matches) you can have a Xhaka/wingers pumping balls into the box.

But Emery and Ozil need to sit down and decide what is the maximum to be extracted. I say this again, Ozil being your defensive concern is like Kos being your attacking concern and club & fans are being penalised for nothing.

Canador
Canador

Ozil to play or not to play is not the issue here. Ozil wasn’t all that great in his last games since his injuries. The players Emery inherited are shits. You will only start judging him when he has all his players in place, probably next season. Will you blame the manager when Xhaka is shit or Kocieney aging. There so many factors, which I don’t think are manager’s fault.

Alex
Alex

Burnley

Devlin
Devlin

I think the lack of a route to goal Is more concerning. Yes we have Ozil, but we should still be able to show a semblance of quality in our attacking without him. If we only relied on Ozil for creativity, teams would justinjure him and Arsenal are done. Emery has to come up with an effective and identifiable way of playing for us. He has to startworking on improving our attacking players in attacking.

But having Ozil available and keeping him on the bench or out of the side, while your team is lacking what he is actually good at, is ignorant and just downright stupid to me.

NigelTufnel
NigelTufnel

Not starting Ozil is one thing but it’s difficult to understand the decision to not even have him as a bench option. I mean, you’re down a goal in the dying stages and Bellerin is the best sub you have?

Dobby the house elf
Dobby the house elf

Same as last season though. If Ozil wasn’t starting he wasn’t in the squad at all… this isn’t all new

Woolwich Shepherd
Woolwich Shepherd

There’s obviously something more to this Ozil absence. I have mostly liked what Emery has done, but man management is part of coaching. If he knows Ozil is not going anywhere, he’s got to get him into this team.

californiagooner
californiagooner

Since when has Ozil been “one of the most creative players in the world.”?

Ozil is an average player capable of the occasional good performance, living off his reputation from Real Madrid and his impeccable PR machine. I compare Ozil to players like Hazard, De Bruyne, Eriksen, etc. and there’s no contest. For £350k/week that is the standard to which he should be held. Instead he routinely fails to show up in games and throws a tantrum when the system isn’t perfectly set up for him. Emery is right to either hold him to a high standard or get rid of him so we can invest the wages in a player who actually fits the system and is worth the outlay.

MikeSA
MikeSA

“Throws a tantrum”

Where did you pull that from?

Don’t tell me, let me guess……………..

John Lavery

A simple question, giving that Hazard and Ozil are “creative” players, what is the difference between Hazard and Ozil?

scott rice
scott rice

Hi John. You asked for the difference between Hazard and Ozil. Just a few thoughts. Hazard scores more, appears to work harder, and less likely to avoid using his weaker foot. There may be other differences but these are the ones that spring to mind.

Dan P
Dan P

Ridiculous these Emery out comments. The biggest problem with Arsenal is the fact we have an owner that does not give a crap if we suceed or not. The only way we will progress is for Kroenke to leave and that will only happen if he stops making a profit out of the club. Don’t buy the merchandise, don’t put money in his pocket and then maybe he will lose interest and sell to an owner that wants us to suceed.

Jo Lamiri
Jo Lamiri

Yes, Mesut is a joy to watch and utterly creative ON HIS DAY. I can see that Emery wants more consistency (and so do we fans) from a player who has broken the wage ceiling at the club. Not sure he cares enough.

Mike D
Mike D

‘his day’ is usually against Ludogorets or Leicester…

DAvid
DAvid

Or west ham

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts

Iwobi was a positive again today. Either he is getting better or the players around him are getting worse…hmmmm

I AM ARSENAL
I AM ARSENAL

Frightening that he is our most ‘dangerous’ player after Laca and Auba.

Dwayne James
Dwayne James

Don’t know if it should be “frightening”. Should take it as a small positive, hopefully hemisphere performance level remains and th rest of the squads pick up. He’s had a good run of games recently

Fireman Sam
Fireman Sam

Auba would be more dangerous if he didn’t sky the ball half the time he’s near the goal. If he took more of his chances more accurately we’d be higher up the table.

Don’t quite know what to think of Auba.

Clearly he’s doing something right to be joint top scorer in the league. But he fluffs so many opportunities!

Deano

As poor a match as some of the turkeys that we have offered over the last Two years. Seriously couldn’t give a single player over a 5 and our future is not looking bright.

BigArse
BigArse

So is Xhaka in the Pirlo position now? I think I like Torreira as our deepest midfielder. It seems to me the back three is to compensate for Xhaka as the screening man and his lack of athleticism, and his role is to dictate from deep, compensating for the lack of a true 10. Problem is he isn’t Pirlo, and we’re short on Bonuccis and Chiellinis too.

poldimacht

Xhaka is an awful footballer. The more I watch him, the more I’m convinced he’s mediocre and shouldn’t be here if we want to make it ever back to the elite level. What a waste of money he’s turning out to be honestly.

BigArse
BigArse

Not sure about that, he can really spray it about and is great on the dead ball. But he lacks speed and defensive instincts. I think his position in this team is in a central 2 just in front of Torreira if we play a back 3. Or on the left side of midfield in a 4-3-3. Or as a number 8 in a 4-4-2. But having him screen our centre backs is just weakness covering weakness. Not a good strategy. Really he is a bit of a defensive liability, as is Ozil, as, to a lesser extent is Ramsey. I think you can have one of those guys in your team, and compensate for them, but 2 or 3 becomes risks disaster. See the last couple years.

Awesomesauce25
Awesomesauce25

The back 3 is to accommodate Kolasinac since while Monreal is out. He can’t play LB. Needs to be attacking too be effective. Can say ther same for the fact Bellerin has been out.

Bendtnerschristmastree
Bendtnerschristmastree

Seems we’ve completely dropped the playing out from the back since we changed to a back three.

The defense and midfield is so fucking slow. If you can’t find a progressive pass within a second or two, move the ball on. Don’t just stand there with the ball for 3-4 seconds. We’re so predictable right now.

Bob
Bob

Playing out the back died with holding getting injured and monreal as well. None of our other defenders, except Bellerin, are remotely competent at that

goonshow
goonshow

Watch some of the games when Santi had been move to his deeper position – took him a few matches to adjust but he was then brilliant… aiways looking up and always looking FORWARDS. And with the feet to confidently beat that first high press almost every time.
It’s not coincidence that the real decline in our game coincided with his injury… Imagine him feeding Auba and Laca

Leemillion
Leemillion

Look, I get that Ozil isn’t an ‘Emery player’ (whatever the fuck that is, apparently a Ligue 2 19 year old), but we have to use him in some capacity. I get Emery wants industry in his teams, but it’s not working. I would also understand the formation and the selection if we were an absolute defensive unit – but we are miles apart from that. It’s just not working. We’re not going to be any less defensively stable with Ozil in the team, so why not just play him to try and outscore the oppositions?

Imagine being Auba and Laca and seeing your most creative player not even on the bench.

Bob
Bob

Ozil seems to get a lot better when he doesn’t play. Our away record was atrocious last season and he was no small part of it. His numbers have been bad since he signed his new contract. I don’t think he’d be the difference maker today because he so rarely is ever and that isn’t an emery thing.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

When things don’t work out, every player benched automatically becomes a hero.
No one wants to remember how this punch of overpaid mediocre footballers were just as bad last season when there was no pressure what so ever, and a manager who was too generous with giving them chance after chance after chance, and who prioritized style over result. But still they failed miserably.
Emery is at fault, but let us not pretend that one player will turn this team around.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

It’s a difficult one. I think it’s totally fair to point out that Ozil started games like this last year, in his best position, and we still lost them badly. And it’s also very fair to say he’s come nowhere near justifying his new contract. But on the other hand, you can’t look at that starting line up and say Ozil (or Ramsey for that matter) wouldn’t improve it. Take out the two strikers, and it’s barely top half of the table.

Leaving him out of big games for tactical reasons makes a bit of sense, he was left out for some big games at Madrid for similar reasons. But today? Against West Ham? Hmmm…

Devlin
Devlin

This is our first loss away to West Ham since 2006. So yes we have lost games, but you are also making the mistake of forgetting his quality. This is the most prolific chance creator in English football history, he didn’t get his stats on the bench or at home. I won’t let hatred of a player blind me from his contribution to Arsenal over the past 5 years. I wonder why Sanchez had never been blamed for our defeats.

What people are saying about this Ozil and Emery situation, is akin to having a gun, but fighting using a knife because the gun sometimes jams.

Irrational Gunner

Have to agree. Very uninspired performance, and that can be laid at the feet of the manager and, ultimately, the players. It seemed like we played as if there was a Liverpool “hangover”, with a lack of confidence and without trying to impose our will on the game. Still hoping that this malaise has been caused by the lack of player rotation due to injuries, and the amount of games played (especially by our newcomers) over the Christmas period. If not, we may have a bit of a crisis, as it does not seem like we have a lot of cohesion at this time.

Deano

Bob you don’t like Ozil we get it.

Bob
Bob

I do like Ozil, but I don’t think the root of our problems is “play Ozil” when we were quite capable of churning out stinkers away from home like this all last season and he was playing then. Even Mustafi’s reputation benefited when he was injured during our injury crisis and, sure enough, as soon as he’s back we all remember he’s a terrible defender. How many assists did Ozil get last season? How many away from home?

Leemillion
Leemillion

I’m not saying playing Ozil would make a difference, but we’re so defensively inept and been unable to sopve that, so why not try and just outscore the opposition. He’d do absolutely no worse than Guendouzi, so at what point do you say “fuck it, it’s worth a go”?

How do you reward Guendouzi for being bang average? Just because he’s 19 and isn’t on a high wage? At least be reasonable and say Ozil is worth a shot as a fucking substitute. Jesus man. He doesn’t even make the bench over half the shit we have on it.

OnAnyBlock
OnAnyBlock

I understand the rationale…but how did “fuck it, its worth a go” work out for the last manager?? The we will outscore them attitude makes absolutely no sense and it is part of why we now have this change of management.

The squad is very poor (acceptance is the first step), so let Emery & Sven do their jobs and tear out the dead parts of this squad to implement change.

Leemillion
Leemillion

Because there is a way to do this thay gets Ozil in that team. Even if you don’t like him, we lack creativity and we cannot even trouble the opposition. I was reading the play by play by blogs and from the 66th minute to the 88th, there was no mention of Laca or Auba. At least Ozil would come back and get the ball to try and make something happen. We need either him or Ramsey in the team, and Ramsey is gone, so if we’re gonna spite ourselves (in some others opinions) let’s do it with someone under contract.

Bob
Bob

But that basically sounds like doing what we did before under Wenger which would surely be a damaging way for emery to go and just be delaying the rebuild we need. I don’t think there’s easy answers, I’m only saying playing Ozil won’t even paper over the cracks in this squad and I don’t think that’s unreasonable. I never said Ozil wasn’t worth a shot as a substitute, it’s insane to me that he isn’t on the bench but without knowing the situation I don’t want to jump to conclusions. Ramsey is leaving too but he’s still on the bench, so what’s going on behind the scenes? Emery doesn’t strike me as a confrontational man. It’s strange to me that a group of players who were so consistently awful under Wenger last season put in stinkers like these and the new manager is getting all the stick for it. Of course he has to take some of the blame, just like he deserved credit when we were winning but you could sack emery tomorrow and appoint who you’d like, they’d still need to dismantle the squad. I don’t really have an issue with Guendouzi playing, in all honesty. Sure, he might cost us now and then but there’s clearly potential and if he turns in to a better player than Xhaka or other options then we’ll all be praising the manager who gave him a shot at 19. I’m much more frustrated by senior players putting in performances like that than Guendouzi struggling with the learning curve..

Awesomesauce25
Awesomesauce25

Ther beat players get more criticism than deserved when things go bad and more praise than deserved when things go well. But ther fact is he is our best player and i would bet the rest of ther team would agree with that entirely. So it’s the managers job to figure out how best to utilize the players at your disposal, and Emery has failed to do that so far.. even when results weren’t so bad we looked poor. But he seems to prefer dribblers rather than passers, so we either need to get rid of Ozil and use that money to fund Emery players, or we need a manager who is willing to build a style around the players he’s been provided.

Mr.TP
Mr.TP

Who dribbles in Arsenal?

A Different George
A Different George

Our home record was fantastic last season (yes, fantastic) and I thought he played a role in that. Maybe we should play away just as we play at home. We looked about as good as Liverpool at home, very little to choose, and obviously miles behind at Anfield. Today, I thought we did not look as good as West Ham. We had no one as creative or as technically gifted as Nasri in our midfield (God, that hurts to say).

Goonerooni 48
Goonerooni 48

No one is bigger than the club. Not even Unai Emery. I pointed out his flaws several weeks ago and now others are also beginning to notice them. Zero creativity on the pitch. Zero creativity in Emery’s mind. 0/10 from me.

Magnets4us
Magnets4us

Might not be a popular opinion, but what exactly has Leno done to warrant the position of being our no.1? The general opinion is he has better passing than Cech, but that’s it. To be fair, I haven’t seen his Ederson/Alisson like distribution in the last games. Nor have I seen him organise the defence in the same manner, collect crosses with ease, or produce a world-class save. What I have witnessed is another goal conceded where he just stands still and doesn’t even attempt to make a safe(on his near post).

Timsh
Timsh

As if that’s anywhere close to being one of the bigger problems today. You don’t just keep changing goalkeepers throughout the season. He didn’t have any howlers recently and played ok recently. The goals we conceded recently were in no way his fault.

Give me a break. Leno or Cech, it doesn’t matter.
GK is not the issue at the moment.

If you saw the Man City vs Liverpool match you will have seen both great goalkeeping but also errors from both those worldclass goalkeepers.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

I think it’s fair to scrutinise Leno, but tbf he wasn’t at fault for the goal at all and was generally solid today.

Bob
Bob

His distribution has been markedly poor though, but I don’t think it helps when our current options in defence seem so bad on the ball themselves. Maybe I’m building his importance up in my head because he’s out for the season but holding seemed so crucial to us being able to do that

NigelTufnel
NigelTufnel

It’s tough to play out of the back with no creative midfielders to set up the attack.

JohnRambo
JohnRambo

Although I think Cech is a better goalkeeper than Leno, there was nothing he could have done about that goal.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

he’s average, not only because of today, but since he came he’s claim ability of playing playing from the back is absolute bollocks. he can’t get the ball to a player any further than 20-25 yards away. most of his long sideway pass go out of the pitch. he’s reaction and reach are very average. might stop shot close to his body, nothing more.
We should do much better than him.

Gunnerthesaurus
Gunnerthesaurus

Almost any and maybe every goalkeeper will conceed goals from the shots we allow. If anything, I feel bad for him that we’re never ever good defensively. He made a couple of mistakes and has saved everything that you can expect a good goalkeeper to make. And anyone who questions is passing is just completely taking it out of context. He has immensely more pressure on him when passing short simply cuz he’s the gk and if you look at the passes he receives compared to Alisson or Ter Stegen or Ederson (ball playing gks), the difference in quality is appalling. And long balls? Who except Lacazette even attempts to actually fight for first ball from the gk?

He can obviously be better at some things but he has been given an uphill task. Without shoes. Or ropes. Or a pole.

Pat Rice and Beans
Pat Rice and Beans

Blogs just nailed it on Bellerin comment and bonus rating.

Aleksander Włodarz
Aleksander Włodarz

Fucking terrible

Woolwich Shepherd
Woolwich Shepherd

It was painful because West Ham just straight up beat us. Anderson and Creswell were pushing us around and their defending was good. Nasri played well and that was like getting salt rubbed in with vinegar and razor blades. Torture. No creativity until Ramsey came on and…. Ah, screw it…. We’re flat out not good enough.

Paul Smith
Paul Smith

Where is the high pressing game that we were promised? We look like 3 separate components of defence, midfield and attack but not a team. There is a disconnection between the 3 areas. Personally I would go to a back 4, drop Guendouzi and Auba. Without Ramsey in the team no one runs beyond the front 2 which makes us easy to defend against. Everything is in front of the other team.

ClockEndRider
ClockEndRider

This. So what are we practising in training exactly because it doesn’t appear to be pressing, playing it out from the back, or any other form of consistent strategy. I appreciate that 6 months isn’t long enough to turn round the eff up of the last 5 years or so but surely it’s enough to begin to see some semblance of a change to playing style and development in our obvious defensive weaknesses. Is Emery just Wenger wearing prosthetic make up?

NigelTufnel
NigelTufnel

The disconnect is the lack of creative midfielders to stitch everything together

Oh dear
Oh dear

Drop the leagues top scorer?

Flash
Flash

This is why football is so popular…

On the long run: You get what you deserve!

Just take a look at the table!

Hitman for Kroenke
Hitman for Kroenke

Only two points from last 15 away from home? I thought we won 4 times away this season

Deano

Kroenke will remain alive and well as long as you’re around.

Billy Enfield
Billy Enfield

Has he not got an helicopter?

Rebeldispatch
Rebeldispatch

I think we have 2 choices
A react to each game As If its a one-off praising the match winners as potential superstars and castigating eiher the manager and individual players if we lose which of course a run of bad games means a sacking and a new plan
or
2 See this as a long term project where we need 4 or 5 more transfer windows to come anywhere near the top2 with no. promises of success
There the only shows in town foks

Vonnie
Vonnie

This manager is not showing that he’s worth keeping for 4 or 5 more transfer windows. Maybe the club have realized that and it’s part of why there’s no money for transfers. We have some top players who won’t waste their careers if they’re not going to be competitive, and financially we can’t afford to drop to mid table. The football is horrible, the next few months are going to be very interesting.

Bob
Bob

That logic doesn’t hold up at all. We have a recruitment team outside of the manager that bought players before we even hired emery. They didn’t view Wenger as worth sticking with but they still bought Aubameyang that January. Put down the pipe, Christ.

John C
John C

Who are these top players?! I don’t think we have any

chuffy
chuffy

The Guendouzi situation is starting to annoy me. Is he really any better or more productive than say Willock? He’s played nearly every game this season and he is only 19. He’s potentially going to be good, but for heaven’s sake he’s not ready for this level. I think this is Emery’s signing and I feel like he plays him to justify his decision. All the while we have a 350000 pound a week player who seemingly doesn’t fit Emerys system, whatever that is because it changes from week to week.

pile of...
pile of...

Arse by name
and that was a pile o the stuff that comes out of one…

poldimacht

I have to firstly start by thanking Arsenal for making my weekend terrible and making me miserable. I will not be spending a single penny on Arsenal any more until I see something that shows me promise that we want to improve and move forward.
Secondly, I’m going to rate everyone including the manager 3/10. Because we were shocking. Change can only start with doing it better on the pitch if you don’t buck up your ideas you cannot expect investment because that is a risk. Firstly, stop treating the Premier League like Ligue 1 or La Liga and playing the same failed tactics that were used once or twice and miraculously worked but failed terribly against awful teams like Saints and Brighton and now West Ham and where we got a thrashing at Merseyside.
Lastly, STOP this power battle with Ozil and play your best players so they can do the best for you, their teammates and themselves. This is literally like shooting yourself in the foot and putting salt all over it. It’s that bad

Bob
Bob

Embarrassed by our supporters at this point. When the manager came in we all thought it would take time, now suddenly we want to be the finished article already. “We got our arsenal back” and then straight back to getting on the managers back as soon as there is a dip in form. Utterly pathetic. Feels like there’s a sizeable amount of people willing the manager to fail so they can beat him with the “Ozil” stick. Well, to that I say Ozil has been shite since he signed his contract and was very much part of our atrocious away record last season. Would be nice as well if some fans could accept they’re not, in fact, analystical geniuses and getting angry because the manager doesn’t play the formation you would or sign the player that you think we need because you heard about him on twitter recently is utterly pathetic. This comment section is embarrassing. Imagine wanting the manager gone because he hasn’t turned a team with a shite away record in to an unmitigated success in his first season.

Leemillion
Leemillion

Nobody expects the finished article, but people expect some progress (or signs of it).
We are no better than we were last season imo. At least we were attacking decently then, even if the defending was shit because now we can’t attack, defend or midfield (whatever that is).

You seem to have a really warped reality and are trying to push an agenda that we’re all bastards – when all we really want is to understand what the plan is here. I’m not seeing results of training here, because nothing about this team looks any different than Wenger. You can sit and blame the personnel all you want, but Emery is in charge of player choice.

He’s proving a point with Ozil and Ramsey and it’s so God damn obvious. He wants industry and running, yet doesn’t want to play Ramsey (who we all thought would get a new breath of life under Emery). Decides having Nketiah on the bench and Lichtsteiner, yet there is no place for one of our only creative options. Bullshit! Absolutely. Utter. Bullshit.

Dobby the house elf
Dobby the house elf

Progress has been seen, surely, albeit it in flashes. 4-2 against spurs showed progress, our game against Liverpool at home for example. Two holding midfielders, fullbacks that provide width, interior wingers that occupy the half space, a number 10 who instigates the press and playing out from the back are all things Emery has obviously been trying to implement but personnel and injury has affected that. The playing out the back improved, then holding and monreal (and then Bellerin) got injured and we couldn’t do it anymore, he tried Ramsey as the 10 he wants but he didn’t suit the position and a decision was made, same with Ozil (show me a top side in the modern game that uses a player like Ozil), Bellerin showed real improvement this season but Lichtsteiner isn’t adequate back up for him, monreal doesn’t have the legs anymore but Kolasinac can only seem to play in a 5 as he’s so poor defensively. Our midfield was poor last season as well and the purchase of Torreira was never going to be a fix all but, actually, I would say the Xhaka/Torreira partnership had been something that worked well during our run. I am quite sure that given the personnel he needs (and seriously, we can bang on about “he has to make do with what he has” but every manager is given the chance to bring in players who suit their system) we will see these things creep back in to our playing style. This isn’t an outrageous thing to expect either; we aren’t cardiff, we should be backing a manager in the transfer market and building their team because we fucking can. We weren’t hiring Sam Allardyce to try and keep a bunch of journeymen in the league after Christmas.

Not surprised the defence has been exposed either. Emery’s style will leave defenders somewhat exposed and our defenders are, frankly, fucking awful. Kolasinac can’t defend, Mustafi can’t defend, Sokratis is average, Lichtsteiner is bad, monreal has been injured and declining, koscielny has declined heavily and is still our best central defender (now that holding is injured, and rob holding being our best defender should tell you something).

So what if he is proving a point with Ozil and Ramsey? Though I’m not sure what points he’s exactly making by using Ramsey and it’s been made pretty clear by the club that emery isn’t in charge of player contracts. We’ve rescinded the offer for Ramsey’s contract and the manager has no money to spend this window; don’t you think those things might be related? As for Ozil, a new manager not liking a player isn’t exactly a big deal, it’s only made one because Ozil is on such inflated wages we can’t even move the guy on. Emery didn’t had Ozil that ridiculous contract, Ivan did, and he must have known it meant we wouldn’t be able to spend down the road so, frankly, they lumped a manager with a mercurial number 10 he can’t move on, no funds to replace him, and didn’t properly invest in the weakest areas of the squad. I find it difficult to get that angry at a manager who is having to mop up the failings of those who came before and those senior to him.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

I want to say Emery needs as much time as Klopp. But whereas Liverpool sold Coutinho for £140m and reinvested it in the squad, we’re letting Ramsey go for free and then saying we don’t have money for signings! And boy do we need signings. If we don’t win Europa we’ll need to get used to Thursday night football for the foreseeable future.

ClockEndRider
ClockEndRider

Not if we don’t qualify.

Pkub
Pkub

Afternoon to forget. Shocking & exhausting performance for the fans.
It felt like we sat on 1st or 2nd gear for the entire game, no intensity, no real desire when going forward.

No positives to take from today, but let’s not get that stupid ‘Emery out’ bullsh*t. Sacking Emery won’t solve anything. We have such unbalanced squad its nothing but a headache for Emery.. He clearly needs to be supported by the board *cough cough* Kroenke you stingy fcker.

As much as I like Matteo, he’s out of his depth at this level. Xhaka? I’ve no words for him today.

Hopefully there’s plans to build our midfield around Ozil & torreira. I do not have a clue who could we sign to make our midfield click properly, but let’s hope our scouts are already looking at new replacements.

Drown the sorrows tonight lads.

Billy
Billy

Emery to bould, “okay so we are lacking any creativity, guendouzi is really pretty poor, no one is linking the back to the front, you know what this game needs? A right back!!!

Dobby the house elf
Dobby the house elf

Given how bad maitland niles was and how many assists Bellerin has this season I’m not getting this comment

Shank

Fucking awful performance.
No bite in that team , no passion…….where’s that gone?
Spurs are streets ahead of this outfit, and will stuff man ushitehawks tomorrow.
You may not like it , but if you want to make progress , you have to put aside your parochial hatred and try to learn from what they’ve done………oh yeah and vote that down cause that’s what I’m talking about.
They wear that ugly white shirt with pride.

Cacho
Cacho

It’s funny, when games are going well, Emery’s grimace is exaggerated. When things are going poorly the grimace turns into a sad little frown

Highberry
Highberry

Harsh on Guendouzi. He is a bright spot in a sea of underperformance. The subs should have started. Ramsey and Torreira should start every game.

JazzAFC
JazzAFC

My observation is that Unai is trying to be a total control freak and that egos are hurting the team(club) more than they should (Look at Man United).

But we need additions !!!!! but here are the questions ?

– Where is the money gonna come from
– Are we ambitious enough e.g. Buy 80plM+ players
– Do we want to buy Managers favourites for short term fixes? e.g Banega,Suarez and all those others linked to previous Emery teams!

This season is already a write off, use it to play your strongest 11 on paper and see where it takes you.
Then assess at end of season whats needed really, and whether we can afford what we need ?

scott rice
scott rice

1/10 for a ref who penalised us frequently for holding or wrestling (a modern phenomenon). Quite right because this is a game for feet not hands. BUT the same referee usually allowed their players to get away with it. It was like playing against Stoke.

I AM ARSENAL
I AM ARSENAL

In retrospect despite both being made of glass Santi and Jack are truly missed. Only midfielders we had who could turn on a sixpence or gain a yard and simultaneously play a telling forward pass. Just dont have that at all..Even a Diaby type. Just someon who can dictate and dominate in the middle of the park. Having to watch Xhaxa lumber about taking 5 seconds to get the ball to his left foot for aa sideways pass is torture.Hes as Dire as Dier.

scott rice
scott rice

Bit harsh about Xhaka but I agree with your other points. Particularly Santi Cazorla. Two footed genius. All footballers should work on their weaker foot. Look at Robin van Persie (and Robbie Fowler). Both scored some stunning goals with their weaker foot. Also agree about going forward. Far too many passes going backwards.

Bob
Bob

First job for a manager, above implementing philosophies and systems and other grand plans, is to be able to manage the players at the club. Emery has done this quite poorly the the point where we have one of the most creative players in the league, yet we had to endure that level of uninspired play.

If a player is playing shit, you tend to try to get them to focus on the basics and build. Today our manager was shit, and really he needs to go back to basics for what a manager needs to do: manage the club’s players. All of them and especially the ones who can improve our game.

Redredgooner
Redredgooner

Arseblog, is there any chance to add rating option for Emery as well, could be interesting to rate him based on tactics/selections/substitutions/reason not playing Özil this time?

Susan
Susan

Ozil needs to be pensioned off. Keep Ramsey. Why did we not try and get Cesc? Stan the Cnut out out out

Leemillion
Leemillion

Ozil can’t choose himself in the starting 11.

scott rice
scott rice

My guess is lots of fans would dislike Fabregas returning. Personally I would welcome him back. Even past his peak he has a great vision for a forward pass. Many a goal came for Arsenal through his incisive passing (and not slowing it down to take an extra touch like some of our players do).

David Blasczyk
David Blasczyk

We need an owner who cares, then the rest will follow.

Mick Malthouse
Mick Malthouse

This could be the least talented Arsenal team that I have seen. Poor defence, limited midfield and wasteful in attack. I started following in 1998 – can anyone remember a worse first 11 in that time? Those supporters who are older can no doubt remember worse teams, but I cant.

Irrational Gunner

Agreed. The most bothersome characteristic of this group is the away form. It has been dropping over the years and got to rock bottom last year. How can we be, seemingly, so mentally frail away from home, while having such a good home record? Believe this is UE’s biggest problem to get his hands around.

Vonnie
Vonnie

In his last season at Seville he didn’t win a single away game, so good luck with that.

Irrational Gunner

Wow, confidence is low and that tidbit didn’t help!

ClockEndRider
ClockEndRider

You should have been around in the mid 70s and then again in the early to mid 80s. John Hawley, Ray Hankin, Terry Mancini, Willie Young, Lee Chapman, John Matthews. A sea of dross brightened by a few standout players. But then it only cost me 50 bob to get in and it was better than hanging around the streets of N1 sniffing glue. Now it’s 50 quid or more and that value judgement is a whole lot closer.

A Different George
A Different George

I think you are saying that sniffing glue might be a better value than a ticket to Arsenal. Grow up, man. Get adult drugs.

Ro J
Ro J

Feel disappointed after today’s performance. I don’t mind us losing some games but I want to see signs of progress in the way we play. First half of the season was very positive not just because of the points but we were playing good football, pressing well, running behind and creating chances. Defence was sh*t but at least we were doing well in the offence. But our performance recently has been dire. The players are not running, no creativity and no urgency.

For me, the last few performances are on the manager. The team selection is not good enough…There is no balance in the team. Our midfield is a joke – 2 arguably good players are replaced by 2 mediocre player! Why? Because the manager is prioritising players who run but have limited footballing intelligence and skills…not good enough.

As a manager, part of your job is make the best use of the resources available to you. Unai is not doing this well right now. It seem that he is choosing his comfort level over performances. if he wants players to adapt, he must adapt to the players as wel. We look a mediocre mid table team right now…with the players we have, it is unacceptable.

I do not buy the narrative that Unai doesn’t have the right players…he needs to earn that right first by showing how he uses the resources at his disposal better.

Casimir KnightI
Casimir KnightI

Good post.

Made me think – is it possible that the very perceptible decline in performances since late autumn (Spurs apart which was great) is a ‘before and after’ situation to do with team cohesion?….if so that makes me worry about UE

Calm
Calm

Today Iwobi was the driving force of the team and making things happen. Sadly he was on the left side open begging for the ball and the other players keep turning right, especially Guendouzi. Towards the end i was hoping for him to get on the ball as that was the only time we look like we can cause problems to West Ham. Until the next game then COYG!

John C
John C

He’s garbage and needs to be replaced as a matter of urgency

Philip Visser
Philip Visser

Squad for every game seems to be experimental. After 22 league games I would expect that the starting squad plus bench will have some measure of predictability by now. Clearly whatever is being “experimented” with is not working, judged by the result and more importantly the manner Arsenal played today. Shocking poor quality of play and tactics with players not even performing the basics at acceptable level. Certainly the manager must take responsibility for the choice of the team. Today Arsenal looked like a bottom 6 team

VoiceofReason
VoiceofReason

Xhaka has made the most individual mistakes leading to goals for two year now. Not surprising

Arne Gjesdal
Arne Gjesdal

Over the season everybody, including the neighbors cat, agree that the best pairing in midfield is X&T. For all the talent Guendouzi hold, he is still not mature enough for this level. He needs to bulk up as he is far too easily intimidated. About the goal. The cross came from a short distance and I think it is harsh to blame Xhaka too much. He tried to instinctly to head the ball away and unfortunately it fell to Nasri. Whenever Xhaka is involved in one of the 712 passes before a goal the slate Xhaka gang fires up. He is a good footballer with some shortcommings. Show me another Arsenal player without shortcommings and I show you a non existing person. The way Emery sets up his team proves that he doesn’t bother about this season. If he did he wouldn’t play Guendouzi over Ramsey and Ozil.

Max
Max

In recent weeks we ‘ve been bang average, mediocre. Mostafi, sokratis, xhaka and kolasinac are simply not good enough if you have top four aspirations, let alone winning a title. The manager has to take his own share of the blame, especially the way we play. It’s too predictible and they take far too many touches before they pass.They should be playing one, two touch football. There is no agression with and without the ball.

Matt P
Matt P

Gee harsh Ramsey rating. I thought he was excellent. 8

PaddyVieira
PaddyVieira

The whole team showed a distinct lack of urgency and intensity today even when we fell behind. The endless passing back and sideways is like watching paint dry. If we are not going to start our most creative players, then we need to use the wings to penetrate defences but I’m not sure we have the players to do that.Would love to Felipe Anderson in an Arsenal shirt. Xhaka and Mustafi once again proved today that they are not of the required standard, Xhaka looked ok earlier in the season when paired with Torreira at the base but Emery has moved away from that fulcrum. The attempted clearing header by Xhaka was embarrassing, as was the latest rash sliding tackle from Mustafi. If the overall desire amongst the players doesn’t improve I can’t see us coming anywhere close to the top four.

Matt P
Matt P

Guendouzi was poor, especially his final product. The strikers were also average, although they didn’t get service.

Savage
Savage

We know for sure now that he’s fallen out with Ozil. When questioned on Ozil’s omission from the squad, he made it fairly clear it wasn’t because of injury. Leaving him out of the whole match day squad?? We really struggled with the quality of our possession and passing in the West Ham halfway – surely Ozil could have helped?

Max
Max

In a big club, when a manager don’t know how to manage big players and big asset of the Club, you change the manager. He didn’t want Ramsey, he doesn’t want Ozil and in the meantime I don’t think Lacazette and Auba are happy to play for him. If Ozil will leave, Laca and Auba will follow. And if we finish outside the CL, next year we will be at the same level of Everton or Wolves. Unfortunately Emery doesn’t have a clear plan like he didn’t have in PSG.