Video: BATE Borisov 1-0 Arsenal ‘Not even remotely on the whistle’

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Here are James’ thoughts on last night’s 1-0 defeat to BATE Borisov in the Europa League.

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Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

Sorry to say, but James’s argument about “who could we get”, citing fans wanting Simeone or Allegri, is complete nonsense. There are other managers out there (and a few who would have been easily gettable last summer) that could fit the bill, without having to settle for Emery or Arteta.

Hasenhuttl has gone to Southampton for crying out loud – did he suddenly become desperate between the summer and January or is it much more likely that we didn’t bother speaking to him at the time? Lucien Favre was at Nice – not exactly a big club – why did we not approach him? What about Nagelsmann, Jardim, or even Rudi Garcia?

Homer
Homer

Those managers are by no means guaranteed success and anyone who came in would take time to get it going right. They actually all have less success in their history than Emery. By that measure, Emery is superior. And, TBH hose managers are all second raters, at best.

James is spot on with his comment. Emery needs time.
No sane, well-run or organized football club would fire a manager after a tough 6 months. 6 months that included a 22 game unbeaten run.

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

I agree, Jardim had to backstab Henry to get his position back. He was successful with players like Mbappe, Martial, Lemar, Mendy, Fabinho etc.
As soon as they got sold, he found himself in relegation zone.

martin
martin

Because simply to even think of getting rid of Emery after just 7 months is abysmal. We probably could have had Allegri if the board would have been prepared to spend money on new signings however that wasn’t to be. However the season is far from over and despite the awful form we are in, are still challenging for 4 th place in the Premier League and should still progress in the Europa league. Surely we must give Emery the full season before we start making knee jerk reactions.

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

I am not sure about progressing in Europa League though. Arsenal does not win if a team parks the bus in front of them. Very easy to do against us.

Leon
Leon

It doesn’t have to be a big name manager to deliver success.
Who had heard of Arsene Wenger?

GoonerJust
GoonerJust

Ozil had so many illnesses lately, more than any other players. This is suspicious….I don’t think he really is ill

Alan90
Alan90

I join your opinion. Suspicious

Mpls
Mpls

Several players got hit by this last round.

As for the other ones, who knows. But if they’re excuses, are they convenient excuses for him because he’s being left out? Convenient excuse for the club to leave him out? Or both? Or neither?

Homer
Homer

One thing I disagree with. James says he’s happy to sell Ozil and for that money get 2 or 3 players who would help more than Ozil.

This is Mesut Ozil you’re talking about, James. One of the best No.10 in the world. Have to strongly disagree with that idea.

Sadly, I think James is right that Ozil is being forced out of the club (though I think this is a really stupid idea). This is all signature Sanllehi. I didn’t care much for Ivan The Gutless Gazidis. But I fear much worse with this mob managing the club now, especially with Milasinat (sp?) gone.

Alex
Alex

Euh, help more for what? To defend? We’ve got already 7 defending players on the pitch and Laca doing their work too.

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

Help for replacing a couple of them with better defending players.

Alan90
Alan90

Thats true….i havent Seen any team with so much defenders on the Pitch and the fact, that Offensive Players have to defend too….

Mpls
Mpls

I disagree with James in a similar, but slightly different way. I have also, as he has, accepted the likelihood that Ozil is being pushed out. The reason? I don’t really care, to be quite honest.

But, here’s the thing, and James mentioned it as well: a 3-4-3 with this two man midfield IS too much to ask of the mids we have. If, for instance, Guendouzi pushes up it’s Torreira (or xhaka) left to patrol the rest, leaves too many openings. Or as we’ve frequently seen, Guendouzi and Torreira can’t commit to getting over and linking that play. And Iwobi and Mkhi aren’t able to or told to push into the middle enough when the ball is in the other field.

Now this wasn’t too much of an issue against BATE as they were so deeply set and not as threatening with counterattacks so one of the two pushing in was ok. But against Huddersfield, we handed them the midfield. That’s why they controlled the game and it looked so ugly. Against stronger opposition? Ugly.

So back to the point. We have a giant hole in the central Attacking Midfield region. In my opinion we need that third midfielder to link across the attack. It doesn’t have to be Ozil, but that is the very definition of what he does, and he’s not going anywhere until the Summer. Use him, then let him go. Shop window, anyone?

Quite frankly, if the coach prefers Ramsey but he isn’t available it’s sheer foolhardiness to not use Ozil for something like this unless he has literally said he doesn’t GAF and is literally downing tools. But nobody has said anything of that being the case other than a few peanuts out here in the gallery.

Irrational Gunner

Hell, I thought the idea would be to get rid of Ozil’s huge salary and just KEEP the money! What are the going to use to buy all these replacements since we seem so threadbare (austere, frugal, cheaper than fuck)? I understand the need for changing out quite a few players, but am having a really hard time with the math. Everyone is just dying to overpay for our players, correct?

George
George

I think the club, our club, are acting like a bunch of scumbags and its embarrassing tbh.

Emeriballzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Emeriballzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Phenomenal sign off at the end there James 😁

Sean Williams
Sean Williams

Xhaka playing instead of Ozil? Insane. The Arsenal hierarchy has their heads up their backsides. Lunacy.

Martin
Martin

Totally different players. Xhaka is a deep lying midfielder who has formed a great partnership with Torreira. Ozil is an attacking midfielder and yes I agree would like him to be playing as he is still our most creative player. I cannot see why both cannot both play

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

Because Ozil puts a lot of tackles in to stop opposition ?

Mpls
Mpls

I don’t think the missing piece against BATE or Huddersfield was tackles.

Mick
Mick

James seems you are willing to accept a lot ,I am not going to accept any of what we as supporters of Arsenal football club have been subjected to for six months. I didn’t want Arsene to go but I accepted that some did and they got their way, so we get a new manager who has his philosophy and that’s all good and well but he should be able to adapt it to the players he actually has at club or had ( no place for Wilshire could of done with him last night) doesn’t play Ramsey when fit and snubbing Ozil all the time is ridiculous when we are crying out for creativity. I can’t bear to watch anymore with a manager who hasn’t got a clue

Rich
Rich

Wilshere has played 5 times this season, completing a total of 339 minutes, and is injured yet again….

Getting shot of Wilshere was 100% the right thing to do.

Rambo like Sokratis+Ozil only had 1 day’s training, therefor they were left at home yesterday.

The performance yesterday was awful, but that’s nothing new, we clearly lack width, Emery was publicly screaming out for wingers in January, but unfortunately our transfer budget was £0.
These problems have been going on for years, and with our transfer budget reportedly being £40 Mill this summer? Will likely go on for much longer, I’m just not sure setting an example of not giving our managers a chance to grow a team is the right strategy.

It looks like we’ve got some pretty good youngster coming through our academy, sacking Emery will ensure the next guy is too cautious in giving them any chances

Mick
Mick

Ozil was supposedly sick last week not injured, he is a professional athlete so 1 day training should be enough to play against the calibre of opposition we were facing, Emery can’t handle big stars. He should be getting the best out of Ozil and in actual fact he is not getting the best out of anyone. The team is bereft of confidence as could be seen last night with the finishing . He could also have brought some youngsters last night and given them game time . Ahh where is Smith Rowe could have used him last night

Arsenala Vista Baby
Arsenala Vista Baby

To get the best out of Ozil is by not playing him. Don’t you know it already?

Futsboller
Futsboller

Is there something in your comment meant to assure us to hang tight, things will get better, or is this just a calmly delivered fatal diagnosis?

Mick
Mick

Hang tight, if I have to watch anymore of this so called football I’ll hang meself

Rich
Rich

I’m not sure if you were replying to me?

But I think we’re at least 2-4seasons away from sorting out this mess.

Since we’re self sustainable, our best bet of generating cash flow is through seriously lowering our wage bill, Sp*rs have proven that you can get players to stay and compete on a much lower wage budget, providing that you can convince them of your project.

I think we can do it with smart recruitment and a core of young players, but it’s going to take time to get the squad balanced, then a season or 2 to get competitive.

I think we are where we are… because that’s the level we’re currently at, the Bate result or performance isn’t anything out of the ordinary if you look back over the last few years.

In terms of transfers, I think we might have to become a selling club, buying high and selling even higher.

Futsboller
Futsboller

This is what worries me – that Spurs have become our go-to “model.” What has happened to us? That’s shameful in so many ways, not least because Spurs are relying on the goodwill/lack of ambition of Harry Kane to stay with them (when really he should be on a much better team, winning things) and the fact that they simply don’t win anything.

It sounds as if, and this is my fear, we are accepting that we no longer belong among the mighty few in England, rather than taking the steps to put ourselves back up there as the model you are predicting is one based on far too many “ifs” and is frankly depressing (let’s get competitive again by lowering our wages and getting rid of our star players, put our faith in smart recruitment while not keeping people like Msinlat on the payroll, and aim to build a balanced squad at the expense of a truly exciting/entertaining one). This could very well be our reality, our gameplan going forward, but it is awfully depressing to me considering what we’ve been able to do on a self-sustaining model in the past. Bummer.

Willyp

Wilshere is a sick head!

rpsport
rpsport

I do think we need to steel ourselves for the train-wreck to come. Emery has to iron out flaws all over the pitch starting off with a copper-bottomed defence. Our early hopes are foundering and I know some are already brassed off with his selections and beginning to slag him off. I certainly can not see us winning any silverware any time soon.

Leon
Leon

A manager whose past successes involved playing wingers joins a club with no wingers.
And is failing to deliver.
I wonder why that could be….
Perhaps because Emery was the cheapest and most convenient option…

Cowabunga
Cowabunga

For those of you who want Emery out after little over half a season in charge, I refer to the wise words of Sheldon Cooper, to explain how I think about you: Troglodytes.

A P
A P

Thank goodness I don’t give a shit about what you think.

Futsboller
Futsboller

I’m a bit surprised at Blogs’ post about Ozil’s Bergkamp tweet and labelling this misadventure as unprecedented. Isn’t this what we watched from afar taking place between Pogba and Mourinho at United earlier this season? I like our show and our characters much better, but isn’t the Ozil-Emery feud the same scene, the only difference being that Pogba was still playing regularly? I agree wholeheartedly that whatever this is, it is not good for the club, but I don’t know if Ozil is so much in the wrong here as he is, for whatever insidious reason, pledging his allegiance to the club in a public forum, something he has been denied the chance to do on the pitch recently. The media (professional and social) turned the Ozil situation into a perfect little storm, as it is wont to do, and I don’t blame him for saying something when his name is “front page” (or “first screen”?) news every day despite the fact he hasn’t been able to put in a shift at work for a while.

What is clear is that Arsenal FC is supposed to be a classier club than this — that’s an admonishment of the board, upper management, the coaching staff, and the players — and it is a shame that these power struggles in the enormous gap left behind by Wenger’s and Gazidis’ departures are being played out so publicly. What’s more shameful is the state of our football on the pitch; we’re getting by, but we no longer entertain. It is crucial for top clubs to field players who can “wow” the crowd, and that’s my one worry with the direction that management is taking the club — big time players are, it seems, slowly being squeezed out. It’s a very fine balancing act, to get a large squad to buy into a dedicated, hard-working system while simultaneously making room for and catering to big time players, but that is what the best coaches and management teams are able to do. Hopefully we can work that out sooner rather than later, and our football becomes entertaining for all the right reasons again.