Aubameyang and Lacazette on Barcelona’s summer hit-list

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From Catalan daily SPORT comes a story about how both Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Alexandre Lacazette are potential targets for Barcelona this summer as they seek an addition to their forward line.

The La Liga champions are apparently looking for a ‘9’, and have identified the Gunners strikers as candidates for the position.

The lack of Champions League football next season, and the stature of Barcelona, would make a move ‘attractive’ for either player, and they also cite the presence of Ousmane Dembele as a factor.

He’s a former teammate of Auba at Borussia Dortmund, and an international colleague of Lacazette.

On the flip side, the length of contracts at Arsenal would demand a significant fee, and with a lot of work to do on the squad this summer, selling either would be very low down the list of priorities for Unai Emery.

With 50 goals between them last season, they’re about the best thing we’ve got in this team right now, and even with the need to sell to help finance a rebuild, it would hardly be viewed as ambitious to sanction a sale.

The fact that we do face another season of Europa League football will ensure these kind of stories rumble on all summer, as bigger clubs look to pick at our carcass, so brace yourselves for plenty more on this over the coming weeks and months.

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Hantal
Hantal

I hope not but I expect there’s a real chance at least one of them could be sold

GoonerJust
GoonerJust

For £150m, I say they can have either one. We can reinvest the money to strenghten the squad. Buying “quality players that inprove our squad” or whatever…..

Mick Malthouse
Mick Malthouse

More likely £148m of it would fund some new stadium in the US and we will buy a £2m “Sanogo” type from the lower French Leagues.

We suck.

HelderHughes
HelderHughes

Now, are they sure they don’t mean Xhaka and Mustafi?

Someone should double check.

Jean Ralphio
Jean Ralphio

This could be our ‘Coutinho’ transfer. Would hate to see Laca go.

IamaGoober

I think selling one of these guys to generate revenue to buy other players would be such a moronic thing to do for these two reasons;

1 – there arent any decent strikers in European Football at the moment who we would stand a chance of getting in as their replacements that would be anywhere near as good as either of them.

2 – we already have to try and ship out like fucking half the squad this summer. It just isn’t possible to buy that many players in one window. We have much more pressing issues to contend with. I think if we sell one of Laca or Auba but one of Mustafi, Xhaka, Mkhitaryan are still at Arsenal next season — I might have to kill myself.

But naturally it will happen, because as we all know, we are complete cunts.

HelderHughes
HelderHughes

I always equate the “there are no good strikers around” argument to that moment your missus has pulled all 1000 of her dresses off the hangers and stands on the pile of discarded clothes saying “I don’t have anything to wear”.

Daniel
Daniel

This is perfect.

Berwin
Berwin

Selling one could be the only way to fund much needed moves unfortunately

jackhamma
jackhamma

If we absolutely had to sell one, i’d rather we kept Lacca

Scott P
Scott P

Not just as a player, but also because he’s essentially 2 years younger than Auba. If the transfer fee would be about the same, it would be better business to offload the one who’s going to be worth basically zero at the end of his contract.

Again, this is only if we absolutely had to sell…

Don Cazorleone
Don Cazorleone

Essentially two years younger? Until…

Mentalist
Mentalist

Until he’s three years younger, of course.

BidOnLard
BidOnLard

Sounds to me more like manager talk, part of their negotiation for Griezmann – it seems to be going back and forth.

Ex-Priest Tobin
Ex-Priest Tobin

Keep Laca and cash in Auba. Auba is getting old and is part of Ozil’s coward club (e.g. bottle job in EL final, penalty vs Spurs).

Deano

Players miss penalties and have the odd bad game. Can see why you left the clergy with your lack of forgiveness.

Francesc
Francesc

Auba is another luxury player we got.. a flat track bully.. can’t win us anything big.. otherwise it’s difficult to believe that the league’s top scorer can’t get you even top 4

Mpls
Mpls

Auba got us into that final.

Laca-Sead
Laca-Sead

Too much forgiveness towards Arsenal team and players during those past 15 years.

A Different George
A Different George

Barca seem happy to tolerate a player who has missed big penalties (eg, the final of the Copa America). His name is Lionel Messi.

Sam
Sam

Lacazette bottled the EL final too. Even more than Auba actually

Francesc
Francesc

Everyone bottles.. even messi bottled anfield some might say.. it’s the frequency that matters.. and that’s quite high for auba

truj
truj

Who bottled it? For example Torreira was among the bottlers and co.

jiggernaught
jiggernaught

um no he most definitely did not.

Gabor
Gabor

The negative comments on Auba are harsh even though he is almost worthless if he doesnt score (which he mostly does so he is really good to have in our team…), BUT if we should choose, it is a nobrainer. But having 1 senior striker would make me reconsider Welé’s situation.
It is so sad that we seem to be back on 0 level and have to sell our best players to be able to get rid of the worst players.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

Sell Lacazette for a pretty sum and lure back that French feller at Chelsea. You know the one who slaughtered us in Baku. If I’m correct he’s out of contract at Chelsea and could be ready to return home as a freebie. We’d have another year out of him at least.

Jarghs
Jarghs

I believe he signed an extension recently

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

“I believe he signed an extension recently”

That’s a shame. Never mind him then.

Stefan Crouch
Stefan Crouch

That is sense in the midst of kronke and the rest of the non-sense.

Martin
Martin

Stupid knee jerk reaction based on one match

Laca-Sead
Laca-Sead

And the 3 months in the league where we were shit!

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

And the four or five years Giroud was with us and scored many fine goals.

Mpls
Mpls

After his ‘thanks Arsenal’ comment in the celebration I’m not interested.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

I guess he got the golden boot for bottling it.

copenhagengunner
copenhagengunner

absolute rubbish

Gervinho
Gervinho

was Auba one of three topscorers in the Premier League? Was it also his debut full season? If so you’re 100% right, he is totally worthless

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

Oh but he missed a penalty and obviously that defines his entire career. It’s official, he’s shit. The Ex-Priest who never has anything positive to say said so first.

Progman07
Progman07

Honestly, let’s say one of them is sold. Can we realistically expect to improve on them? Probably not. So we can only spend the money on 1-2 worse quality players.

If we sell one of them, we remain with 1 senior striker. If he gets injured, we have to depend on Nketiah to score 30+ goals otherwise we are already worse than we were this season.

I just don’t see the flip side in reality.

Progman07
Progman07

I mean positive side!

OGD
OGD

This is arsenal, there never is positives

Flash
Flash

I think if the mentioned cca. 40 million is true then the management and owner have no real intention to build a competitive, matured team in the near term.

I mean we are clearly behind the first 3 teams now. Even if Chelski is selling Hazard they will get a lot of money for him + both them and Man.United have much better financials than us.
(Plus: 1, we are losing Ramsey 2, we saw Ozil on wednesday and 3, we know how many goals we’ve conseded this season)

I’m afraid the management’s plan is to start to build again mainly on youngsters just haven’t got the balls to admit it.
Laca, Auba, Leno – they are just hanky-panky and are here for having an excuse.
These are the so-called “VanPersie – roles”.

sambo
sambo

Their top players leave because they’ve won everything and want a fresh challenge, ours leave (even on a free) because they can’t win anything BIG

Olu
Olu

I disagree, no other team in the world of football has two top strikers. We need to sell one and strengthen on he wing.

Mpls
Mpls

Having those two top strikers is the only thing that kept us anywhere near contending for the top 4. Without them we’re below mid table.

Le Jim
Le Jim

The intention if we sold one would surely be to strengthen other areas of the pitch though, not to improve on them in the CF position.

The question is, would you be willing to sacrifice a bit of squad depth up top for a stronger starting XI overall? I think I would.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

This is the point I’m trying to make. We sell one for a healthy sum and reinvest in other areas that are lacking. Liverpool have done that and it’s worked for them.

It’s a shitty situation we are in and we are far from Liverpool. Even the Liverpool of 5-6 years ago feels like way ahead of where we are right now. It sucks that we should have to sell our best players but at the same time we can see where clinging to them has brought us. It’s not working.

Sell Lacazette and use the money to plug our leaky defence and/or strengthen out midfield.

Maul Person
Maul Person

Sell your younger, more versatile striker? Really?!

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

Yes really. He’s not the only striker on earth. There will be others and they’ll be more attracted to coming here if we play better football which will happen if we improve in the areas that are lacking. 40 million ain’t gonna cut it. 40 million plus a fat wad of cash on top from selling Lacazette will get us somewhere.

Maul Person
Maul Person

But your argument was to use the money from selling Lacazette to buy a defender or midfielder. So we’re left with Auba (getting older and fairly limited in terms of all round play) and Eddie (untried albeit not his fault). Where are these “other strikers” coming from?

Secondly, the attraction for the kind of strikers you’re talking about is CL football. When you sell a top player and remain with the two as above, what are the chances of attracting a similarly top replacement without much prospect of being in that competition? Because your approach suggests we’d end up with a Theo or Benteke…

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

OK, then let’s hold on to him until he’s worth fuck all and carry on with our woeful defence and average midfield. That’s what we’ve done mostly over the last few years and it’ll keep us in the EL and finishing 5th or 6th in the PL.

Maul Person
Maul Person

Well WE can’t do anything but we would hope that the club does the needful which includes keeping the players who make the team work (Laca is certainly one of those) and being ruthless about the ones who aren’t up to scratch.

The money isn’t enough so the club needs to make better use of the younger players and be astute in bringing in players who are free (and good). Everyone I’ve spoken to praised Willock for his cameo appearance over Ozil, we are anticipating what Nelson will bring and are excited about Saka. And that’s just for starters. This will naturally mean a dip but if it’s done as part of a clear plan and if the team is managed with that plan and expectation in mind (aligned to Blogs’s article about needed culture change), then we can move forward with a bit more optimism / positivity.

So with the above in mind, it’s not about keeping Laca until his contract runs out. He was our best player of the season as per the vote and we will need him for the next one. Right now we need him; next summer, who knows… but his value is unlikely to have crashed.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

The not up to scratch ones won’t fetch any real money. They need to go yes but at this moment we’ll be lucky if someone else even wants them. What money we get for Mustafi won’t buy us a Koscielny for example. We need more money for that.

Where was Harry Kane before he started banging them in for Tottenham? Where did Mo Salah come from? I’m not saying talent like that grows on trees but they come and they go. That’s the nature of the game. There will be other good players down the line. Us letting go of someone like Lacazette for a high price won’t be the end of us providing we spend the money wisely. Like Tottenham and Liverpool have.

Maul Person
Maul Person

“…the club needs to make better use of the younger players and be astute in bringing in players who are free (and good)…”

Copied and pasted as you seem to have missed it. Kane would be an example of this concept of making better use which I’m actually advocating.

Mpls
Mpls

You’re assuming losing a proven asset that kept us marginally competitive with the top 4 and got us to the Europa Final will actually be replaced with someone in midfield or defense that can help us be just as competitive.

Let me remind you of our current lack of Technical Director situation, the fact that the coach does not know our targets, and it’s all on Sanllehi.

I’m not willing to take that gamble this year given our current situation.

Sell all the other players that aren’t a part of our plans – Mustafi should get some, use our new kit deal, everything else at our disposal – but we’re still going to need those goals from Auba and that deep effort and playmaking from Laca.

If we sell either one it’s going to cost more to replace them with that level, and we really can’t take a step backward in offense given our defensive record.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

We really can’t afford to remain stagnant in our defence and midfield either.

Other clubs sell their top players and don’t suffer for it. Liverpool and Tottenham for example. Why can’t we?

Maul Person
Maul Person

Because:
1. You’re recommending selling your best player of the season
2. There is no guarantee that that sale would result in a like-for-like replacement as happened with Liverpool
3. There are only so many sales a team can make in an off season so the sale of Laca would mean some dross remains. I think the focus should be getting rid of the crappy players first and foremost.
4. Arsenal needs to stop allowing its best players to leave, whether through sales or on Bosmans. The impression that gives doesn’t do much for its ability to bring in new players because as well as the prestige of playing in the top competitions or competing for the title, players want to play with good players. Getting rid of your best doesn’t help bring in the same…

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

Well I agree with you about the dross. There’s lots of it.

OK then, so Barcelona comes to us with a good offer on Lacazette this summer and we turn them down. Where do we get the money to improve our defence and midfield before the start of next season?

Maul Person
Maul Person

What improvements do you think need to be made in those areas that necessitates the sale of Laca so urgently?

Maul Person
Maul Person

PS. There are already whispers suggesting that Barca are using this to try and get a better deal for Griezemann so I doubt it’s real. I know it was just an example but still…

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

Do I need to point out the improvements necessary in those areas?

I asked if we don’t sell Lacazette then where from do we raise the money we need? Do we trundle along with what we have and take a punt on a few youngsters? Or will augmenting the 40 mil with what we can get for what dross we manage to offload be enough this summer? I really don’t care if that’s what you think is the better option but rather than being patronising you could say so and perhaps give a reason. I’m happy to take on board what you say if you drop the attitude.

“…the club needs to make better use of the younger players and be astute in bringing in players who are free (and good)…”

I don’t see how selling a player for more money than we bought him for negates the text you quoted for me?

Mpls
Mpls

40m from the club, player sales, wages freed up from those leaving, improved kit deal (if that’s not already factored into the club’s rumored 40m).

We sell 2-3, maybe even 4 first team squad players, that might include a couple who have started a fair few matches. We can all think of at least 2 easily- opinions on which might differ, but we agree there are some we can move on. We should be able to get another 40-50m at bare minimum. That’s accounting for taking a loss on a couple.

Let’s not forget we’ve also got some youth on the cusp some of which may need to be sold to get opportunities that they just may not be able to get here.

That with the 40 from the club alone gets us to almost 100m which would be a pretty decent outlay by our cheap standards.

We spent just over 90m last summer, and that got us Torreira, Guendouzi, Leno, and Sokratis.

Maul Person
Maul Person

The time for you to see this has probably passed but my question was not simply about where we need improvements but where those improvements necessitate selling our best player?

Secondly, as I’ve been reminded, transfers are not always paid for upfront so a club saying they have x amount available for transfers isn’t strictly speaking true. The payment for a player is spread over years. With this being the case, we could get more players than whatever £40m would typically bring in.

Thirdly, what Mpls said.

So in my opinion, points 2 and 3 above can be employed BEFORE saying “let’s sell Lacazette”…

Maul Person
Maul Person

In addition, on its own selling your best player in no way stops you from using the Academy players you have. But how well will you do in the league if you do that? Which team looking to improve goes into a new season having sold its best player without bringing in a like replacement and relying more on youth and inexperience?

sambo
sambo

Yes because our youth is amazing, hungry and deserves to be given playing time

Frank
Frank

Well, do we have to replace them with a striker of equal quality? Surely if one is sold we move to one up top and strengthen in other areas of the team. It isn’t ideal, but we would still have one world class striker and we need to improve collectively. At the minute we have two world class strikers and a midfield and defence so dysfunctional and flaky we can’t get the strikers any service when the games get tough. One step back to take two forward maybe?

Mpls
Mpls

And what happens when that ONE striker is exhausted or injured? Is Eddie fully ready to be relied upon to lead the line?

One look at the Bellerin situation tells you why 1 is not enough pretty much anywhere. With all due respect to AMN, he had to learn that role on the job and it’s not his natural. He did a damn fine job in light of that, but it’s not a situation I would like in our striking department considering we got pretty much nothing from our Midfield for scoring this year, and our most dangerous midfield attacker is off to Turin.

Francesc
Francesc

We will surely buy a 20m striker if we sell one of auba/laca

Deano

£20 million would get you a Dwight Gayle these days.

Punter
Punter

If they come in with a silly offer for Auba, we should let him go. When I say silly offer I mean +100 million.

Francesc
Francesc

Auba would be a good like for like replacement for benzema.. tap-in Kings

Francesc
Francesc

But Fiorrentino Perez is racist enough to not sign Auba

clockenddan
clockenddan

How have we become the carcass of European football. The stadium move was supposed to keep us competing at the top, and look at us now.

We can’t let these boys leave, they are under contract and we don’t have anything better. Let’s just hope they don’t start kicking up a stink and making life difficult. Fuck we have got so much work to do!

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

To paraphrase from Football365:

After the world finally succumbs to nuclear holocaust (because of Brexit, obviously), only one man survives the blast. He stayed underground in a homemade bunker, 15 metres below the earth.

As our protagonist steps out into the half light, all life looks lost. Dust clouds provide the only noticeable movement, burnt out and hollowed tree trunks the only indication for what had gone before. The landscape has turned to nought. Life has become death.

The man straps the provisions onto his back that he had kept underground, enough to keep him going for several weeks. This was no longer home. Even that word hinted at things that were no longer – domesticity, community and love.

After days of walking, the man finally spotted something moving on the floor a few yards from where he stood. It was unmistakeable, a small cockroach scuttling across the ground. Before it would have been almost hidden from view, easily overlooked, but in the comparative stillness it could have been an elephant tramping across his path.

Catching up with the cockroach, the man picked it up into his hand, and immediately noticed it was whispering something. Starved on any interest in a barren world, the man frantically pulled the cockroach to his ear.

And just about, just about the man was able to make out what this lone survivor was saying. Six words that made the man realise all could be okay, that there was still normality to be found on this scorched, alien planet. “Barcelona want Arsenal’s best players EXCLUSIVE“.

OnlyBeingHonest
OnlyBeingHonest

Fuck it, sell the whole squad. all shite anyway

Harding
Harding

It’s going to be a really fucking long summer.

HansRott
HansRott

Fuck the flip side.

We have two players critical to our future success. Letting even one of them go would be both insane (in and of itself) and a statement to the world that we’re no longer a seriously competing club.

When assessing the season, the one thing we can be confident of is our striking power – not our defence, not our midfield, not our motivation, but our threat at the pointy end of the pitch.

Diminish that and it becomes impossible to instigate a plan for short-term future success.

We’re already letting one of our most influential players leave for Juventus, letting another one go isn’t carelessness, it’s fucking stupidity.

Francesc
Francesc

Auba is not critical to our success

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

We let one of our most bankable players go on a free because we clung on to him when we could have made money from him. You now propose we do the same with arguably the only bankable player we have at the moment. So in a year or two he too leaves on a free transfer or he’s hit the big 30 and isn’t so hot on the pitch anymore.

Makes no sense to me. I say sell and reinvest. Other clubs do it and continue to do well, why can’t we?

HansRott
HansRott

I have literally no idea what you’re saying.

Laczazette’s contract runs until June 2022, and Aubameyang’s until June 2021 …

So, which other clubs sell this far ahead of a major player’s contract end? I’m really keen to know.

I’m also keen to know which player we can subsequently and realistically bring in to improve the squad going forward. You obviously have someone in mind.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

That’s exactly when you sell a player. When there’s time left on their contract and not when they are down to their last year and less. Because that’s what we’ve done in the last few years and it’s not news that we’ve suffered for it.

I have no idea who to bring in. That’s for the guy who replaces Sven to decide. He’s the professional on the rockstar wages with the know how.

Remember Tottenham when they sold Bale? How did they fare after that? No too badly IMO.

We should have sold Sanchez and Ramsey when the offers were there and we could still get something for them. And with hindsight we would have been better off if we had sold Ozil a couple of years ago.

Mpls
Mpls

I don’t think we should sell him, but Auba’s contract is down to a single year left at the end of this coming season. That’s the situation we are / were in with Aaron, Wele, and the others gone on frees.

The way it is, two years left is when extensions are negotiated now for players the team does not want to gamble on losing for a free. –Especially clubs with a cloudy future.

Laca is safe to wait a year, Auba, if we’re planning on keeping him, we need to start negotiations this year. Best off this summer.

If we’re planning on keeping him, I’d give Auba a bump to write in either a year extension, or an option for another year if he’ll agree.

RealSeriousGooner
RealSeriousGooner

We already are no longer a seriously competing club. It’s not a secret.

Matt Coplestone
Matt Coplestone

And so it begins……. Small club, small minded with zero ambition. Maybe thats why they ousted sven, after all does it really take 3 people to decide how to spend 40 million ?

Mpls
Mpls

Who’s the 3rd? Emery says he doesn’t know our targets. It’s all Sanllehi and our scouts.

Kostas
Kostas

Big clubs will knock the door. The question is will they turn their heads? Will you blame them if they wanted to leave us. Depression.

Francesc
Francesc

Don’t worry. Only Laca is big club material.

Sam
Sam

Is that why he has won barely 1 trophy in his life and is almost 28?

Peter Story Teller
Peter Story Teller

The main concern is not that we would be willing to sell them but they might want to leave given the state we are in right now and with no real optimism for the foreseeable future. Could be a last chance big money move for Auba before the US or China come knocking on his agent’s door!

Kristian
Kristian

I’d try to hang on to them, convince them to stay at least until January with a promise that we will be in the UCL next year. And if we are not close to that by the January window, then grant them their requests to leave.

Matt
Matt

Isn’t Auba one of the players with 2 years left on his contract? If so I can see him going given the new hard-line approach to contracts we’re supposedly taking

Deano

This was my one big fear after the other nights debacle. In order to keep top drawer players you need to show a bit of ambition.

A £40million purse and transitioning period doesn’t look very tempting does it?

kas
kas

It’s the RVP situation again, ambition

Greg
Greg

Can we not try and convince them they really need ozil Mustafi and xhaka

Francesc
Francesc

They are not saleable

Mpls
Mpls

Not PROFITABLE you mean. They’re only not sellable if they refuse to go.

Laca-Sead
Laca-Sead

Xhaka deserves to be here.

MSI_NGY
MSI_NGY

Honestly speaking, there have been games this season where the system didnt work well with Aubameyang as a lone striker. He doesn’t get to involved in the game and when teams sit back he is less effective. He is a genuinely top player but of you can get a decent fee (a fee large enough to help fund a younger attacker e.g. Malcom from Barcelona or something of that sort). It might be a smart move. Sometimes you got to cash in for the greater good. Having said all that I doubt Barca would pay a large fee for an ageing player . Love his energy though would be a shame to see either of them go!

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

Apart for wing backs the system didn’t work well for no one.

Laca-Sead
Laca-Sead

Malcolm is nowhere good enough. Neither is Coutinho.

Sam
Sam

Auba for 150mn or Laca for 100mn
Honestly having both is extremely dysfunctional for us and they are too big to be benched. If we get a winger I don’t see both of them starting anyway.
Get the cash, use it in gaps in the squad.

Marek
Marek

Yeah right- 150 million 😀 …we will sell them for like 12 million each. Like we did it with Szczęsny

Okechukwu Jude
Okechukwu Jude

Frankly I wouldn’t blame any of them if they wanted to leave. Our club is in a very sad place right now. I don’t think there is a fan who believes arsenal can win the league in the next two years (unless we believe in miracles) Just a close look at spurs and I am wild with envy. Barcelona would offer them more money and more trophies so there isn’t really any up side in staying with us. So at this point I suggest we get the best money possible and try and invest in other areas of our team to make us more competitive because let’s face it we haven’t shown ourselves to be better with both strikers compared to when we had Oliver Giroud.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

They can have Lacazette for 80-90 million.

Matty Cakes
Matty Cakes

100 + for either of them
Anything less tell them to fuck off

Paul Smith
Paul Smith

As pointed out on the Arsecast it might not be a decision solely down to the club. If Barca come knocking then either one of Auba or Laca might say that they want to go. We have no CL football again and it’s going to be a long time until we might do again. If Barca come calling then they might push for a move. At the moment would you blame them?

Shank

Poo rating?

Jack
Jack

Does anyone else get the bad feeling that the players the majority of people want to be sold i.e. Mkhi, Mustafi, Ozil just aren’t going to be sold this year?

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

It has been the problem for the last 10 years. We’ve got players we don’t want on stupid wages (Bendtner, anyone), which nobody else in their right mind would give them.

We haven’t been able to attract or keep the players of the (supposed) quality that we want, so in our desperation have given them stupid money. Look at Carl Jenkinson as another crazy example (although I’m not sure why we would have needed to give him a wage bump to keep him).

AnthonyCN
AnthonyCN

Whilst in principle I’m not opposed to selling either for silly money (100+ million as others have suggested), what would happen with the money? If it’s reinvested in the squad, fine. But is Stan Kroenke really going to do so? Imagine losing a world class player and having the proceeds go towards another Texas ranch.

Frank
Frank

Unpopular opinion probably but I would sell one of them to Barcelona if we could get a good fee. The squad is awful and unbalanced and our transfer kitty is going to be pretty pathetic now we aren’t in the champions league. Perhaps we would be better off selling one of them if that allows us to get a better centre back, a better midfielder and perhaps a move to one up top provides us with some more balance. In an ideal world we’d keep both of them and build around them but we don’t live in an ideal world; we’ve got a shit defence, a bang average midfield and an owner who isn’t putting money in so it’s got to come from somewhere.

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

They’re probably 2 of our highest earners, as well.

Francesc
Francesc

Sell auba for 100m and build our defence

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

Just speaking hypothetically.

If one of them has to be sold then it surely has to be Lacazette. Aubameyang is a goalscorer and those are the most wanted and needed players on the market. Arsenal fans were for years calling for an out and out goalcorer and now they would rather sell him than Lacazette who is at best 15 goal per season striker? I still think Giroud was and is better player that Lacazette and he cost 12 million. It is much easier to replace Lacazette than Aubameyang.

Marek
Marek

We bought Giroud in 2012 and it was a completely different market. Lacazette is more of a team player, he works harder than Auba and is younger. I would rather have them both in the squad for the next season, but if we need to sell one of them and invest that money into the team (buy a new CB!!!FFS!) then Auba is the one I would sell.

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

Aubameyang is 30+ goals striker per year and they are not growing on trees but on the other hand there are many Lacazette type strikers available for a reasonable price. Aubameyang has 3 years of world class football. Right? Lacazette will be 31 then. I bet there will be many Arsenal fans who will want to have 31 year old main striker? I don’t think so. Aubameyang and Lacazette are both strikers for the present and not the future. We will need to buy a new striker in 2-3 years anyway.

As for Giroud price. He would be today about 30 millions? Lacazette was 50. That is what I meant.

DBMÖ10
DBMÖ10

A player that has vision , can pass , can hold up , can dribble , can score. Not a lightweight. Involved in play. Presses and harries the defense. If we agree that prime Suarez was the epitome of this. There’s only Suarez , Griezmann , lacazette , firmino of this type.
Incidentally all either at Barca or Barca targets. And arguably Tadic too. Not really growing on trees are they.
An out and out goal scorer let’s see, icardi , vardy , Quagliarella , lewandowski , Zapata,piatek, Cavani, Alcacer …. These all off the top of my head. The argument that one type is so much more plentiful doesn’t really hold up.

Marek
Marek

Please mention 3 “Lacazette type” strikers available for a reasonable price. I don’t think they are growing on trees either. If Barcelona wants him or Aubameyang it says something about both of them. I just think that we need to improve collectively and Lacazette is working better for the team. I just prefer team-players because individuals are sometimes irreplaceable, especially when you are totally banking on them and their qualities.

Dave Cee
Dave Cee

I actually think if the offer is good enough that we should sell Auba. I.d hate to lose Laca though

goonero
goonero

We simply can’t let it happen. Our departure lounge includes far too many established senior names already, we’re looking at rebuilding the core of our team and that job is hard enough as is, let’s not add the worry of replacing a player who contributes 25 goals (assists included) to the already considerable work we have to do.

Maybe next summer Barca, but please fuck off for now and let us get our head back above water.

gunnerpete
gunnerpete

I struggle to see how this could make our side better. It’s not like Barca have any history of paying over the odds for our players, so how we’d reinvest similar quality seems dubious at best.

It’s normal for them to want the best players, so that part is flattering, but at the same time, selling your best part of our side isn’t inspiring. So much work to be done at the back and wings. Our biggest striker challenge currently is some depth for rotation.

Dave
Dave

I’d love to keep them, but honestly I wouldn’t be either surprised nor mad if any of them (or both) decide to leave, sad state of affairs.

jiggernaught
jiggernaught

tough one.
keep Lacazette at ALL costs, that’s a no brainer. he’s our best player and no striker of his caliber would join us.
I’d love to keep Auba not just for his own sake but because his partnership with Laca is so so great and so difficult to come by. It’s basically what keeps our shambles of a team together these days. And replaceing Auba with a new striker would be gambling with the possibility of the new pair of strikers becoming competitors instead of friends and teammates.

but then again, Auba turns 30 and presumably won’t keep his speed and acceleration (his greatest assets next to his shooting technique) for more than a year, so if Barca offered 80m+ I’d be tempted…

Gervinho
Gervinho

so if we get rid of:
1. Øzil, that should be 10-15 million + 16.8 millions in yearly wages

2. Mustafi for 5-10 mill + approx 1 mill in wages

3. Mhiki = approx 12 mill in wages

4. Ramsey and Cech wages are also gone
5. Jenkinson will also leave
6. Then there are doubts about Koscielny and Monreal… and what is the situation with Ospina?

Not a 100% complete and factual. A loose estimate at best, but also an indication that we’ll can easily double those 40 millions mentioned for the transfer window.

Paul
Paul

Buy first and then sell either of them. They’re just grand. They’re at the same level as giroud really, that one level below top top strikers. I might be wrong but that’s just my observation. If we sell first every selling club out there adds 30% to the price.

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

A lot of knee-jerk reactions about at the moment around Giroud. Just because he scored in the final and Aubameyang didn’t doesn’t mean they’re the same level of player. Aubameyang scores far more goals. Lacazette is another story.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

We know Giroud well from the 5 years he as with us. We all know he’s a very effective striker. Hardly a knee-jerk reaction.

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

Everyone was moaning for years that he didn’t score enough goals. I liked Giroud and didn’t want him sold, but he’s not the same level striker as Aubameyang. Lacazette, on the other hand, scores about the same number of goals as Giroud but seems to be rated higher than him (and Aubameyang for some bizarre reason) because of his work-rate.

We should have gone for Aubameyang instead of Lacazette instead of being stingy at the time (or even the season before that). That way we would’ve had Aubameyang and Giroud (so a bit of variation) and not spent £110m to improve on one position, whilst nobbling ourselves in the Europa League by only having one available striker.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

For the record I was never one of the people who moaned about Giroud. I was also sorry to see him go although I understood the reasons. We can’t complain about what we have but sometimes I wish we had a big lump like Giroud who charge through a tough defence as a third striker.

CornwallGooner
CornwallGooner

In my view Aubameyang was bought for 2 reasons:

1) a panic buy bought with the intention/aim of ‘rebooting’ the 2nd half of the 17/18 season to secure us Champions League football;
2) a ‘vanity’ / ‘proving a point’ purchase for Sven;

I really rate him BUT he hasn’t helped get us into the Champions League, and Sven has now gone. He also publicly stated that he wanted to play at Real Madrid at some point.

I think there is a real chance that Aubameyang will leave this summer; I hope for ‘proper money’ that we re-invest but I fear it will be some god awful swap/exchange for someone who wasn’t/isn’t good enough elsewhere.

Xhaka
Xhaka

It’s ok because if we sell one of them, we can still say that not counting the last transfer, we still have Laca and Auba.

Benriz
Benriz

NO

Kristian
Kristian

I’d keep both, unless Barcelona would be willing to pay £80 million for Aubameyang, and £90 million f or Lacazette this summer.

I’d understand that both players might be unhappy if prevented the move, but I’ll try to convince them to stay, atleast until January, and prove to them that we are headed in the right direction, and grant their requests to leave (if they asked) in the January window if we fell short of the promise.

Mark
Mark

Nobody on the squad should be untouchable at this point especially for the sum of money we could get from a club like Barcelona. Would hate to lose either one of them, but if we can double what we paid for either of them we need to consider a possible sale. We certainly cannot sell both and with Lacazette being two years younger than Aubameyang would prefer we keep him, though his being younger could fetch a higher fee than Auba. Had we managed to not shit in our pants over the run in we wouldn’t be having a conversation like this as we’d be in the Champions League and have the needed funds to invest.

SLC Gooner
SLC Gooner

It pains me to say it, but at this point, we’re likely to be in for a couple seasons of rebuilding. Too many players that are either too old, not that good and/or overpaid. There will have to be a fairly significant clean-out. And there’s not a lot of those players that are going to have much value. The two strikers are about it.
If we could get a lot for Auba(100mil+), I’d probably take it, as a foundation to build on.

zadok
zadok

you guys are unfair to auba.
perhaps you rather want nelson or some acadamy boy be arsenal’s main striker?

Chris
Chris

As much as I hate the idea of selling our top players, selling off 1 of the 2 will help us rebuild.

Say we have 40m transfer budget, selling off Auba for say 80m or Lacazette for 140m will help us have a better or more balanced team.

Others that can sell off:
Mustafi – 15m
Xhaka – 20m
Elneny – 5m
Mkhi/Ozil – 15/30m

All in all, we will have 40+80+55 or about 155m for a few players, like a LB (15m), CB (20m), CM (40m), RW (40m) and a CF (40m). If we can even convince Rabiot to join us, we will have 6 quality signings that will strengthen us.

Sale of Coutinho, Suarez to Barca helped Liverpool to rebuild significantly. Sale of Bale to RM the same. Sale of Zidane from Juventus to RM.

We might think that sale of our best players will kill the club, but a good deal will help us rebuild the squad which needs significantly rebuild.

At the same time, bring in a few of our academy players to blend in, maybe 2-3 more who are not with us currently like Rowe, Nethiah

Redbaron
Redbaron

I’ve full confidence in Arsenal negotiating team. Barca will start at 60 mil but we will beat then down to 20 mil or therebouts.

Cultured determination
Cultured determination

Difficult to move 2 players. Easier to move 2 player. Dembele can come over. You get ozil in exchange… by the way, mustafi is free too. Top up another £5.99 and you can have xhaka too

Santori
Santori

Meanwhile we have Ryan Fraser.

Santori
Santori

DAFT. Should not be selling either. We are losing Welbeck as is.

We need to add at Cback, CM and wing. Any further distraction will dilute our efforts.

Plus these two have been amongst our better assets. Selling either will send a poor message and will also have likely knock on effect on the other.

If anything we will need to bring in a young striker to compete with Nketiah (someone preferably with height), someone cheap and relatively unknown ala Guendouzi. But the time to release our main strikers is not yet.

As far as Auba/Laca are concern, as good as they have been this season, they can improve further.

Laca has been a much improved player this season but he can get sharper.

Auba despite the goal tallies has plenty of faults in his game.

1) He is EXTREMELY poor at protecting the ball and challenging for high balls (despite height)

2) Despite his legendary “Bags of pace”, we rally see it. Sometimes he is out paced by lumbering Cbacks. In the finals against Chelsea pace didn’t seem to make a dent. Instead who needs pace when you are already there…Giroud.

3) Which brings me to third point which is he needs to move to the ball.

All this rubbish about lack of service.

If you are truly world class (ala Henry) …you make your own service. When the ball gets crossed in from wide players (chiefly our wingbacks), he needs to make better effort to move toward the ball proactively.

This is what Giroud despite his lack of pace was good at.

There is also a tendancy to hide up top waiting for service (Ozil does the same). Too many times, we see 3 players (Auba, Ozil and Laca to some extent) just waiting for the ball in the box in static line.

One of them needs to be dropping, the other pulling to one flank or making runs across the diagonal.

We must show for the ball better and give the man on the ball several options for the pass.

We are too predictable and easy to defend against otherwise.

Santori
Santori

I worry for the club’s direction or lack thereof.

We are stagnant for 3rd season in row despite some people declaring they preferred anyone to Wenger.

And we already hear rumblings of discontent despite same voices saying earlier in season they were willing to give the gaffer 2 or 3 seasons to get into CL (They were having a laugh)

BUT the bigger worry is the lack of cohesive direction from up top.

Its not just the owner who has too many other sports franchise to care sufficiently about our team…the chief executive Venkatasham seems to lack sufficient clout and Raul seems to have too much power.

A lot will depend on who we pick as Technical director. Even more troubling is the fact we have yet to appoint one with barely 70 days to new season.

It will be telling whether Vinai allows Raul to pick someone he can place firmly under his control but without full experience to bring home the sort of transfers we need given likely more limited budget, instead of someone more experience who has a track record like Campos at Lille.

The Arsenal brand has been heading downwards for several seasons now (despite the respite of the Wenger FA cup flurries delivering some promise but in the end failing to go beyond)

That should be a big worry for any club owner who would have interest in the club valuation not being diminished.

BUT I’m not sure someone like Kroenke cares given distraction in other sports.

If we don’t buy correctly and Unai isn’t given sufficient resource this summer to strengthen in 3 critical areas (at very least), another poor season may be disaster for us.

As bad as it is now, it could be worse.

Same voices who wanted Wenger gone, now want Emery gone should really have their heads checked.

More stuttering effort with little concerted direction will likely if we are not careful drop us into true mid tier. We are not too big to fail further.

Thierry Bergkamp
Thierry Bergkamp

Fuck that “sell one and keep the other” talk. They both must stay