Bellerin set to miss start of the new season

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In news that isn’t that surprising, the Evening Standard reports that Hector Bellerin will sit out the start of the 2019/20 campaign as he continues his rehabilitation from ACL surgery.

After sustaining an injury during January’s 2-0 win over Chelsea, the Spaniard went under the knife and was ruled out for between six to nine months. That timeline had him pencilled in for a return between July and the end of September. As things stand it’s looking likely to be nearer the latter.

Last season, Hector’s absence at right-back was covered by Stephan Lichtsteiner, Carl Jenkinson and Ainsley Maitland-Niles. You’d expect Unai Emery to lean on the latter once again what with the Swiss leaving and the Corporal likely to do the same.

There was talk of Arsenal spending big money on PSG’s Belgian Thomas Meunier but that seems unlikely given our limited transfer budget. Academy prospect Jordi Osei-Tutu is another potential option depending on how he gets on during pre-season and whether or not he’s sent out on loan.  

There is no suggestion that Hector has suffered a setback in his recovery, so we’ll just wish him all the best over the next couple of months. Unlike most of the squad who will be on their hols, he’ll be putting in some hard yards in the gym this summer.

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NairoGunner89
NairoGunner89

Now that this news is public I am looking forward to being linked with every available right back in the world starting now. Expect all the lazy ITKs to stop talking about anything else if it hasn’t to do with a back up for Hector.

So predictable.

PB70
PB70

So its like..Phil – You can’t hurry Love. What I thought.

Truj
Truj

Maybe I’m just plain stupid but maybe vegan diet is not ideal for a top sportman. Not because of the injury, but I think he lost some speed too.

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

He’s likely taking a shitload of supplements

Flowers
Flowers

It’s true that on vegan diet you need to pay more attention to what you eat to get all the needed nutrients. But when done right (and I’m sure Hector is being being evaluated thoroughly regarding it) it can be very good for you. Putting this injury on vegan diet is same as putting other footballers’ injuries on eating meat.

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

I disagree, protein especially meat makes and repairs muscles. I eat very little meat and only chicken but athletes cannot afford this. A good for bad situation for me.

Flowers
Flowers

There are no complete proteins (containing all amino acids) in plants but by combining different plants you can get all amino acids and have most of the perks of animal protein. There are differences (like how plant based protein still works a bit differently in the body) and I’m nowhere near smart enough to explain all the facets of it. But saying “athletes cannot afford this” is just incorrect.

I have no problem with eating meat and to be fair I don’t think football blog is the correct place for this discussion as people don’t come here for that. It just irks me when people say stuff that is more based on belief system than facts.

Laca-Sead
Laca-Sead

I was pleasantly enjoying your input until I read the narrowness of your last paragraph. I enjoy Arseblog because it is a clever and eclectic place, where people can express themselves freely ( as long as it stays civil). I’ve learnt And came cross many different thing to enlarge my horizon ( including your bit on amino acids combination). And all this because we share the passion of football and the Love for one club.

It Is What It Is
It Is What It Is

Did you know…..
Spirulina (55-65% protein) contains all essential amino acids in the same proportion found in human breast milk (as opposed to any other breast milk).

It is an algae, which you’ll find in most blue/green looking juices/ smoothies. Albeit in minuscule amounts.

Flowers
Flowers

I actually agree with you in many ways. Especially when it’s fun things (like apparently “It is illegal in the UK to be drunk in charge of a cow”. Thanks QI!).

But when it’s things like politics, religion etc (and I would put veganism close to that bracket) where most people have made up their mind already before the conversation starts then it tends to turns into a pissing match that divides user base. And as we’re all here for our love for the club then I’d prefer to have 1 place in internet that unifies us.

But I totally understand your point and perhaps there’s place for even those discussions here in the hope that the few people who haven’t made up their mind can hear different perspectives, do additional research and make up their own mind.

truj
truj

It’s interesting and sad to see nutrition as a sensitive topic like politics and religion. This is plain stupidity too. Calm down, eat what you like, talk about it and share your experience.

Mpls
Mpls

There’s no need to call it stupidity. That’s unnecessarily hostile.

Flowers, I think what we might be seeing here though is that folks might be more open to honest discussion of veganism (some anyway) than might have been expected.

Laca-Sead
Laca-Sead

Vegan based crowd? Im considering turning Vegan myself for ethical reasons. However the loss of the benefits in terms of performance are neither proven or disproven neither are the long terms effects on health. Thousands of years, men have been omnivorous, extra proteins leading to the development of our brains. Anyway I’m losing myself, I prioritise the planet and seeing Trump I think meat make us regress intellectually. Sorry about the fluffing. Get well soon Bellerin man.

sambo
sambo

Why do i keep seeing anti Trump posts on this forum…Honestly stick to football please its nauseating…

PeteyB
PeteyB

Maybe because a significant number of people consider that Trump, despite taking some prudent cosmetic advice from The Flaming Lips (I presume he bathes in tangerine juice to keep that real orange look) really is the dumbest crotch-fondling slab of rancid meatloaf ever to take office in your fine fine nation.
But hey, we voted Brexit so people with black kettles shouldn’t throw the first stone. Or something.

Futsboller
Futsboller

Outstanding!

sambo
sambo

Making fun of peoples looks isnt nice or right…Brexit has nothing to do with the USA…just stop.

cygan'sbaldspot
cygan'sbaldspot

Really? Dumber the Bush – creator of Iraq war and WMD lies, resulting in death of a million iraqis and thousands of Americans? Stop bringing this shit into a football forum, and read history book.

PeteyB
PeteyB

I know. I normally wouldn’t… but the question was just hanging there like a piece of low hanging goat, tender and juicy ready to tempt the nearest troll.

Martin
Martin

There is no evidence that being vegan affects any athletes fitness or speed

Wengerballz
Wengerballz

Ehhhh there’s thousands of studies linking protein to muscle mass
But maybe athletes don’t need muscles idk

OneArmedBoxer
OneArmedBoxer

And protein is exclusively available from meat, right?

bendtnerschristmastree
bendtnerschristmastree

yeah cause only meat contains protein..

ComeToSeeEboooue

Plenty of protein sources outside of meat
Can be quite tasty too 😸

Wilsheres Middle Finger
Wilsheres Middle Finger

I would reccomend you to quickly google ‘vegan body builders’. There’s no shortage of muscle mass there I can assure you.

Shano28
Shano28

Or testosterone injections.

It Is What It Is
It Is What It Is

Patrik Baboumain, Frank Medrano.
Two vegans – two ends of the scale.

Henry
Henry

I’m with Truj, and I’ve mentioned it before also. Vegan diet is not beneficial and very likely detrimental to a top sportsman / athlete. Putting complete protein aside, it’s completely devoid of all fat soluble vitamins A, D, K2 and E. Supplement all you like, it isn’t bioavailable food, just synthetically made chemicals in a lab. Watched Hector eating hash brown rolls with baked beans during a rehab video, hardly optimal nutrition.

Martin
Martin

Rubbish.

Mpls
Mpls

Well unless the video showed you the dozens of supplements, protein shakes and bars, and vitamins these players all take, I’d say one anecdotal comment on one part of one meal probably does not tell the story.

Henry
Henry

If malnourishnent is your thing then go vegan & never get any fat soluble vitamins again. No vitamin A, E, D3 or K2, and synthetic supplements can’t replace bioavailable food . Hector was eating hash browns with bread rolls and beans during a recent rehab video, hardly optimal nutrition.

Martin
Martin

More rubbish

George
George

I don’t think you’re stupid, but like others, e.g. Wengerballz and Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia, a little self-education wouldn’t go astray.

It’s an ACL anyway.

Yolo Toure
Yolo Toure

Just shove a spoon of marmite on it you’ll be alright

Rich
Rich

We should move for Max Aarons at Norwich, competition for Bellerin, and someone to take the burden off him whilst he recovers from injury should be a priority.

Lichtstiner gone, Jenks hopefully to follow, there’s a clear gap in our squad to fill.

Anders Limpar
Anders Limpar

If it’s rb and not rwb cover then surely playing the corporal as a short term measure in his natural position is better than exposing AMNs lack of natural defensive nous and further knocking his confidence. It’s not ideal, but Jenkinson can still do a job and we know he will play with his heart on his sleeve. He certainly isn’t any worse than Lichstiener was last season.

sambo
sambo

Just get it right the first time, nothing else matters

Birdkamp
Birdkamp

Only 65% of players still play at the top level three years after an ACL apparently. Something to keep in mind I suppose.

Birdkamp
Birdkamp

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Birdkamp

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Mc1892
Mc1892

I’d suggest this is likely skewed massively given that you’re far more likely to sustain an ACL injury if you’re older. Based on nothing but logic you’d imagine a large majority of those who suffer the injury are approaching/ beyond the 30 mark.

Birdkamp
Birdkamp

I genuinely don’t know when a player is more likely to suffer an ACL injury. I’d be interested to see a breakdown by age, and also wonder whether a player has a better long-term outlook now than in 2001 because of advances in imaging/treatment/rehab. Would assume there’s a whole spectrum of ages in the study, otherwise, as you say, that three-year timescale is a bit obsolete.

catbiscuits
catbiscuits

I remember that a cruciate injury used to be career-defining. Players would typically return having lost a significant degree of speed and mobility.

Rehab / treatment seems to have improved outcomes of late, but it’s far from a trivial concern (e.g. I remember Walcott was threatening to blossom into a top quality inside forward / CF before his injury, and was never quite the same on his return).

Rich
Rich

I seen a study where footballers were covering over 31% more ground in 2014 than they were in 2004.

Originally I though it would be to do with supplementation, as the only difference between an illegal performance enhancing drug and a supplement…. is a classification, and I found it quite unlikely that we’d have evolved that much in a decade.

I later found out that through heat stress, if you spend 1hr a day in the sauna at 180 degrees (obviously not in 1 sitting), after 7 days, growth hormone spikes naturally by x16, and athletic performance increases by over 31%.

They also use cryotherapy as a form of recovery amongst many other benefits, Arsenal also happens to have the largest cryotherapy chamber in all of Europe.

Heat stress is now used as a very effective form of recovery, also in American sports the use of stem cells have also revolutionised recovery from injury, and I’m sure will have dramatically increased the amount of players who are coming back stronger than ever from injuries, that previously would have been career threatening.

I haven’t heard of any PL players taking this route yet, but we are ahead of American sports in the use of CBD oil, as a form of pain relief and also to combat anxiety.

Whocares
Whocares

Once you get past 26 the chances of a full recovery are reduced. As each year passes your chances reduce. You also have an increased risk for the 2 years following the injury of injuring the other one. Getting back in around a year is highly likely with modern medicine but there are no guarantees some will be quicker and some slower.

Most sportsman will have a significant mental barrier to overcome once they return before they can reach peak performance once again. Players often suffer muscle injuries after they return due compensating which is probably more a mental than physical thing.

If the setback is an infection it’s likely that it won’t affect his long term out look just delay his return.

I’m not in any way a qualified doctor but I’ve been researching knee injuries recently in my spare time

Arsenio
Arsenio

There’s a whole lot of luck to take into account as well. Some will be just fine, others sometimes unexplainably, not so much.

Man Manny
Man Manny

Their age matters too. Even Falcao who was in his late 20s is still giving a good account of himself.
I expect Bellerin to make a full recovery; age is on his side.

Pablo pomreas
Pablo pomreas

Hector and holding getting injured really impacted our season. We stopped playing back 4 without Rob and lost so much down the right without hec. Su h a shame. Hopefully they come back strong and we can build this project youth idea around guys like this

Cacho
Cacho

Yes, it’s easy to forget now that losing those 2 was a big blow. I would say we could manage with AMN until Bellerin gets back in September, but we’ll need a right back eventually anyway as cover so might as well fill that role this summer

Maul Person
Maul Person

Is Jordi just not that good or is Emery just that against youth that he’s not in even considered an option? Or is it just too early in the off-season?

Cacho
Cacho

Really no clue to be honest. Would be fantastic if Osei Tutu can be a potential back up, but with how little we hear about him he seems to be not the best prospect in our academy. Wonder what Jeorge Bird thinks of him as a cover option

Alex
Alex

Yes! But despite these losses, the board and UE tried to get the fantastic (…) Suarez in january and didn’t even search for replacements….. I can’t wait for other fabulous decisions for our recruitement’s decisions.

Santori
Santori

He comes back in when he is fully fit no problem.

AMN should deputise.

No problem with Ainsley, just needs to be a bit less relaxed defensively.

Pros he has great recover speed and he rarely panics but that strength is also his weakness since he tends to take it too easy.

Its something that can be easily rectified with a bit of time (remember Bellerin first season)

Going forward he adds positivity with take ons. Again needs to pick his runs and be careful with miss passes (he isn’t the only one, Torreira has done plenty too)

So no issue.

This IS AMN’s NATURAL Position…whatever that means.

People should forget about him being in midfield, its a whole new set to learn again (forget him being there in Academy, you start from scratch first team)

Here he has a chance to develop on his natural side (remembering he did a decent job for us on the left not too long ago too)

We need to keep confidence in him and persist with his development.

No need for any Lichsteiner type signings or the likes. AMN is the man for the future here to push Bellerin.

Martin
Martin

It is not his natural position as he is far more comfortable in midfield.

Futsboller
Futsboller

AMN’s natural burst of speed with the ball is what we actually need in midfield now that Ramsey is gone. I don’t think right-back is his natural position at all (not Hector’s, either), Santori, but he’s done a decent job for us there and I think he could continue to do so, and I do agree that we need to keep developing him with the first team, in one role or another.

Santori
Santori

I’m struggling to understand our transfer strategy (if there is any)

1) We have a finite budget (40m). We need to prioritise on the 3 most critical positions we need to reinforce never mind other needs elsewhere.

a) Cback – I don’t think we need to break the bank here. Someone with experience who has been in good form and confidence last season to bring something to us coming into this new season is what we need.

Preferably 23-28yrs (again I’ve mentioned there is a fundamental difference between the rare de Ligt at 19yrs playing well and playing a lot of matches in the season compared to hopeful 18yr olds who have not featured as much…and have to be loaned back out…particularly when we have our own Mavropanos and Bielik anyway)

This position I feel is priority and should be done as soon as possible.

Chiefly because there aren’t as many good candidates (as say winger) but also because it makes sense to me to give as much time for the new Cback to bed in with the first team given the disruptive pre-season we will be having.

Up to 20m budget here for me.

2) Winger – Here we have plenty of options from Ziyech, Carrasco, Neres, Everton (Gremio), Lozano, Bergwin, Bamba, Thauvin even.

Some of the prices I’ve heard (rumours of course) 31.2m for Ziyech, 30m for Carrasco, well that’s the ball park. If we hold out longer to let the apex predators fall off and try and squeeze price down to 25m we have a bit of time to massage the process bc we have plenty of options.

The last thing we want is to panic buy someone from Ligue 2. Sure GUendouzi was a good pick from Lorient but generally lightning rarely strikes twice and Lorient isn’t Monaco some seasons past or even Lille now.

I think we should be prepared to pay premium (UP to 30M) for this position. You cannot skimp on Cback either but generally you pay for what you get with the creative players.

If we want to have the invention to break down players better, upset the thick defenses we generally face away, break faster without recourse to waiting for support, we need to invest in top tier here.

So up to 30m spend IMO.

3) CM – still needs one more player. here I believe of the 3 is of least concern bc we have Guenouzi, Granit and Torreira (Willock is good enough to replace Elneny from off the bench…the Egyptian generally adds nothing anyway besides some industry)

Here’s where a more calculated risk at 10m mark or a panic loan can be contemplated should we lack funds to go further having spent on the two positions above.

For example, Bakayoko may/may not have future at Chelsea. He was poor for them but showed some glimpses of what he could do on loan in Italy.

Whether his head is in the right place needs to be assessed but it would not be a bad thing to contemplate a panic loan for him for next season should we find less joy in a straight purchase for someone more long term.

So for me we should reserve up to 10m here.

That takes us to 60m full spend which is a bout right bc the next issue with a 40m budget is to generate some income with player sales (something this transfer team we have had with or without Mslintat has been poor)

2) Which brings us to the 20m ++ gap we need to generate in sales.

To me there is no need to be over reactionary and hold absolute positions with the likes of having to sell Mustafi or Ozil at all cost.

That is ridiculously childish to say the least.

Both players have faults but there is no reason to suggest they MUST go.

Because the flip side of it is who would buy them for the salary they are on?

As I mentioned before the choices are for me between Ozil or Mhkitaryan, and between Chambers and Mustafi.

Whichever player generates the most interest in market goes, the other can stay to compete.

Mhkitaryan in particular I have no issues selling on. He’s past 30 generally has been hit and miss for us as well. 10m for him would be a great deal considering he was a free for us.

Ditto if we can’t find a buyer for Mustafi, then Chambers. If he has no function in squad, he would want to move on with his career anyway (something we have not managed particularly well IMO). And as a local content player, he should generate about the same amount as Mustafi in third year contract (I’m guessing anywhere 15-20m depending how desperate we are)

That plus getting rid of Elneny and Jenkinson (both uselss…just think Emery prefers Mustafi to Jenko at Rback) and we are close to our 20m mark.

Add on Ospina (anywhere between 5-10m). We should be ready IMO to risk on Martinez stepping up at 26yrs if not Macey.

So hopefully these rumours on Saliba, Fraser, Maurice are just that.

If not, I can’t see what sort of strategic benefit it is to put so much gamble into a squad that as is is already struggling on the cusp of falling out of europa never mind clawing back into top 4 contention.

One more false move and next summer will be further compounded leaving us potentially in even bigger mess (particularly if we have to lose the gaffer start from scratch…good luck, it will be a while thereafter)

And when you consider the appetite and ambition shown by clubs around us (forget United I’m talking about your Wolves, Everton, Leicester, West Ham), we should be very careful not to lull ourselves into thinking we are too big to fail.

West Ham has gone in 24m for Fornals. We are competing for players in ligue 2 that Norwich and BHA are going for.

Just let that sink in.

Sure its easy to get ‘excited’ about a ‘new approach’ or some sort of left field system for the future but we should understand where we are now.

We are in very precarious situation and we need to push on with quality signings.

If we can’t dissipate the effort with a limited budget we need to be very concise in the way we spend and how and when we spend it.

I’m hoping we are just reading the usual media generated trite but if these recently rumoured ‘signings’ are true, I’d be very skeptical about the direction (if any) we have adopted for this summer and the prospects for Unai next season.

It would be particularly not surprising though as the owner has his eye off the ball (he doesn’t even know which ball it is) and we have IMO not reinforced or develop a buying team with the best efficiency and experience given the challenge we have put ourselves in.

Futsboller
Futsboller

Look boss, de plane!

Wow, Fantasy Island.

Shank

TBH….. I’m sick of this.
He is so important to how we play ( play properly that is) and the back up is crap ( AMN is a midfielder).
So bollixed as usual due to lack of investment

Maxiboy

Noooooooo!!!!!😭😭😭 Bellerin is my boy