Report: Arsenal to offer Torreira new terms

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As the stories linking Lucas Torreira with AC Milan die down, news from Italy suggests that Arsenal are ready to offer the midfielder a new contract as a show of faith in him.

The Uruguayan signed from Sampdoria last summer for £26.5m, and had a generally impressive first campaign in England. He faded a little towards the end, but apart from Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Alexandre Lacazette who tried their best to drag us into the top four and to a European trophy, that was true of most of our players.

Torreira played down the interest from Milan this week, saying, “I don’t know anything about interest from Milan. Nobody has called me. I am in the Premier League today and am happy to be part of Arsenal.

“It’s true, it hasn’t been easy adapting, but I am only thinking of the team now. I’m happy to be in London.”

Now, according to CalcioMercato, the club will sign down with the 23 year old’s agent, Oscar Bentancourt, to talk about a new contract which will send a message to Milan that the player is not for sale.

It seems like a lot of hassle when we could have just stuck this in the post. You know, take the moral high ground.

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Jim
Jim

LANS!!

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

Beat me to it…

BidOnLard
BidOnLard

So it could be just manager talk to get them to the table. Milan an in shambles in any case, so not sure they can do anything at the time.

baz00r
baz00r

His agent has done his job well.

Mekus
Mekus

My thoughts as well.

Ross
Ross

I suspect all of the rumours came from his agent to push us into giving him a pay rise….

Mekus
Mekus

I believe so, and the crab board is about to fall for sham.. line, hook and sinker.

TeeCee
TeeCee

You catch crabs with a bit of bacon fat stuck on a lead ring. No hook and no sinker.

Wilsheres Middle Finger
Wilsheres Middle Finger

This whole transfer rumour stinks of an agent agitating for a new contract for his client.

C.B.
C.B.

Most of the rubbish that we have to endure on transfer rumours are down to the agents, trying to get a bonus for themselves by pushing up the wages of their players.

I’d much rather that agents were banned.

Jht
Jht

Agent is doing his best to get some money out of torreira; new contract or transfer. Stupid rumours mainly spread by the greedy agents

Possession

Gazidis the knobhead woth

RedCurrant
RedCurrant

AC Milan have just been banned from Europe for a year. That might put a damper on him wanting to go there this summer (if he ever really did).

I’d still be happy to see him extend his deal though. He’s relatively young and he’s one of the few players I’d like to see us try to rebuild the squad around.

Martin
Martin

There is not a shred of evidence he wanted to go there. Nonsense emanating from the Italian media

Post January Blip
Post January Blip

If true, I’m questioning the wisdom in offering better terms at this stage. Apparently we have a very tight budget and need to reinforce, Torreira is under contract for the foreseeable future anyway so the club can maintain a tough stance.

If he performs next season (which is what we’d all like) then maybe come to the table next May. Part of the reason we’re in this mess is because agents have quite successfully managed to land good deals for their clients with very little justification in terms of output from certain individuals.

Pookins
Pookins

Spot on. No need to renew his deal yet. Don’t encourage his agent

Mekus
Mekus

Exactly. It seems we are yet to find a way out of the debacle that Gazadis and co got us with the Ozil wage fiasco, and here we are about to fall into another player agent’s deliberately created demand. The more things change in this club, the more they remain exactly the same. I’m having a feeling of de ja vu after reading this piece.

Dave
Dave

We never learn. Club rotten from the inside out.

Rich
Rich

Torreira has 4 years left on his deal?

Unless those inside the club think his value has the potential to significantly increase further? Then I see no rush to offer him a new deal on significantly higher wages.

The wages a player earns, are significantly linked to price you can extract in the transfer market, the length of the contract is important, but not as much as it used to be, if you have a player on only a year on his deal, and he’s in demand? Then you can still extract a good transfer fee, but the demand will also be linked with who can afford to pay him, not just who can afford his transfer fee.

And as much as I like Torreira, I think he has a ceiling, both in terms of potential, and market value, which looks to me to be around €50-€55million mark

Where we’ve gone wrong, is our business model sucks, we’ve paid too many average players, too much money, which means we struggle to move players on, and when we do manage to move players out, we get nowhere near their market value, as wages come into the overall spend of the buying team.

There’s 6 teams outside of the PL who can afford our type of wage bill, and none of those teams are likely to be interested in our cast offs, the PL is in serious danger of strangling itself, we can pay people well, but there’s absolutely no reason to go significantly higher than the rest of Europe, because we’ll struggle to form any time of business model if we do.

All businesses need to trade, and we need a business model that involves us being able to trade our unfixed assets, and we can only do that, by ensuring those assets are within the budgets of the clubs we’ll need to conduct those trades with.

We paid €30 mill for Torreira last summer, and could realistically flip him for €50 million this summer, which would show a profit of roughly 66%, and that value isn’t likely to decrease in the next 2 years at least, but if we for example move him from £60,000 p/w to £100,000 p/w?

Then any club wishing to buy him next summer, would have to pay at last an extra £8.3million extra over the next 4 years, which might not be big for us, but our revenue is over twice, but in most cases 3-4 times the rest of Europe, which would then decrease the amount we could receive in a transfer fee.

We should make Torreira earn his new deal over the next 12 months, we’re in no rush to move on this one, I simply don’t see him becoming good enough to be targeted by any clubs who could potentially bully us in the future, and if we try to renew in 12-18 months? And he refuses, I don’t see it being the end of the world, because his market value will be higher and not lower.

Chrispy
Chrispy

Will we ever learn. 1 yr into a contract and we offer improved terms after an average season from the player and an unsuccessful one for the club. It’s no wonder we’re fucked financially.

Mekus
Mekus

There’s also a possibility that he really wanted to leave to Milan (with his Italian girlfriend supposedly complaining about the English weather), and the Milan ban from Europa quickly made him change his tune. Obviously his agent heard from the pipelines (being into the system) and informed him on time before it came to the public domain. The board should rather manage it to the club’s advantage, instead of a sudden rush to reward him with unnecessary increased wages like the former CEO and Wenger did for Ozil and left the club struggling with the outcome up till now.

Mpls
Mpls

Ha, if she would rather go to Ivan’s Milan for the weather, perhaps she should find a player with a less promising future.

Alex
Alex

Last season, Özil doesn’t prolong, you have to find a sub, it costs money (yes, it does), more than the £60M Özil is supposed to win in 3 years. Plus he is of great marketing value (still the best t-shirt seller last season despite the fans’ darlings aka Torreira, Guendouzi, Auba…). No brainer: you prolong him.

The Spoon
The Spoon

Surely someone at the club is on speaking terms with baldy locks, pick up the phone, is it true Ivan? if not, his agent can poke it, if so, baldy can poke it. Simples. Pretty sure Gazidis will know what we’re likely to agree too, I mean a player signed a year ago for 25m, offering a 2 year loan deal to a skint club, Gazidis isn’t that stupid. Regardless, as mentioned by others, unless we stupidly only gave him a 3 year deal then his contract stays as is for at least another season.

Tas_Gunner
Tas_Gunner

His Agent is a certified baller 👏 Pinched arsenals arse cheeks and secured double salary for the goblin midget 🤣

Manu petits left peg
Manu petits left peg

Played like a fiddle…

Eddie McGoldrick
Eddie McGoldrick

I absolutely loved Torreira at points last season but he also had patches where he looked very off the pace and was bacially ineffective. Obviously it’s only his first season (and I have no problem with us offering new terms to a player relative to performance) but I worry a bit about us moving players up too fast too soon before they’ve fully proven themselves at the level week in week out -and then if there isn’t the development we hoped for they’re so much harder to move on due to inflated wages (like so many of our other players in recent years!).

I would really like us to stop rewarding players with salary increases based on their potential and instead do it based on actual results and consistency. If a player then becomes unhappy from not getting a pay rise before theyve properly earnt it and it affects their performance etc. I’d rather just sell them without too much trouble and replace.

Not saying this is what is happening with Torreira here (don’t even know what the terms would be of course) but just a thought as I was reading the story and got me thinking about this happening in recent times.

Dave Hyland
Dave Hyland

Ivan could do us a favour and buy Mustaphi, then most would be forgiven depending how much they pay. I’m thinking 80 million.