Mixed emotions for Chambers but Luiz remains positive

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Calum Chambers says Arsenal can feel pleased with the way they ‘rode the storm’ at Old Trafford as Unai Emery’s men came from one goal behind to take a 1-1 draw against Manchester United. 

The 24-year-old looked like he might be in for a very tough evening when he picked up an early booking for a foul on the pacey Daniel James but, much like the team, recovered his composure to put in a solid performance.

After the game, Chambers said the result wasn’t bad although you get the feeling he, like those watching, knew United were there for the taking.

“As a team I thought we played well, we put in a shift and I thought we created chances throughout the game,” he told Arsenal.com.

“I think we’ve come off with mixed emotions. We know that Old Trafford isn’t an easy place to come, so when you come off the pitch feeling you could’ve won but get a draw, it’s not a bad result.

“Their fans were making a lot of noise. In those moments we had to stay strong as a unit, as a team, and I think we did that.

“We rode the storm and created our own chances, we put our own authority on the game as well. We came off feeling like we could’ve got something. It was a good, strong performance today.”

David Luiz also tried to put a positive spin on things. The centre-back, who probably had his best game in an Arsenal shirt so far, insisted that the result is part of a gradual cycle of improvement.

“We have to be happy with our performance,” the Brazilian said after the game.

“It is never easy to play here. It is not easy when you concede a goal [before half time] but after that it was a great game, a proper Premier League game, a proper derby.

“There is still a long way to go, we are trying to improve the team every week and I think we did a great game, and a mature game here. It is not easy to play with maturity here, but I think we did that tonight.”

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Cyprus The Immortal Gooner
Cyprus The Immortal Gooner

Chambers is a much better RB than AMN. He is focused all the time without concentration lapses and he really deserves playing time…

Jarghs
Jarghs

AMN very much isn’t a RB and it’s shown. Not a jab at the player, like him a lot, but daft he was played there when Chambers is clearly a better backup to Bellerin.

Comedian
Comedian

agree. AMN has been struggling for quite sometime now, he really needs to watch avoid those concentration lapses. He is a confident player who could dribble his way out of trouble but the more time he has spent on right back position the worse he has become. how players don’t identify the mistakes they have been culpable of so many times irks me, we fans have spotted those errors for ages with certain players but does anyone at the club makes them watch the errors they have been making and how they could improve.

backsakacrack
backsakacrack

One has been a defender all his career, the other is Maitland-Niles. It’s not surprising.

Rich
Rich

Absence makes the heart grow fonder….

Chambers won’t be the first player to see his stock significantly improve whilst sitting in the stands.

It wasn’t so long ago that Chambers was getting skimmed at right back week in, and week out…. and fans were screaming from the rooftops that he wasn’t a natural right back.

He may have improved? he certainly has in the air, and I hope that’s the case with other aspects of his game, but he does lack agility, he’s very slow over the first few metres, and he gives away endless stupid fouls because of his weaknesses.

I like Chambers, but the jury is still very much out, and if it turns out he has improved? Then that should be a reminder to everyone to get behind our young players like Niles, not to write them off too early, and to support them through difficult moments.

A nonsense line like Chambers is focused, is just nonsense, he was at fault for a goal against Villa just last week, and whilst he may prove to be a useful squad player, I suspect he’d be targeted if he played at right back every week, simply because he’s a good footballer, who’s weaknesses are when he’s on the back foot, and that’s a pretty glaring deficiency fora right back in this league

mjc1892
mjc1892

We’ve got Bellerin. Don’t think it’s that outlandish to say that Chambers is a better back up option, AMN has never looked convincing at RB to me.

Dave
Dave

He’s not a right back, he’s a centre back. He’s good going forward and can tackle and position well enough, but bad when players run at him or the ball is played in behind him.

santi's thigh grab
santi's thigh grab

Actually he’s a DM who Arsene tried unsuccessfully to convert to a CB or RB. I like Chambers as a squad player who brings some quality to the attack but has defensive issues due to lack of speed on the wings. Good squad player.

Tapps

Played predominantly at right back for Southampton…….

Neil
Neil

Only started playing DM when on loan (at Fulham it was, I think)

DB’s first touch
DB’s first touch

Played DM for Arsenal before that loan on a few occasions

Dave M
Dave M

I used to think he was just a CB, but this season he has been nothing short of Brilliant at RB, his technique has come SO SO far, his crossing is excellent, passing is excellent and he is dinking and beating guys with the ball – all traits of a full-back in attack. He might not be Bellerin quick, but he has also shown he is quicker in the turn than we first thought (maybe adjusting to the game better) and he isn’t getting beat at will by quick players. James is really fast and despite the early yellow, Chambers did an excellent job of containing him even on a yellow. He was again one of our better players – he even got forward at the right times and put in a few crosses.

I’m still more than happy to see him play some CB too, but going forward (when Hector is back and fit) we have a quality option behind him.

ricky rick
ricky rick

Player ability (f(x)) = player in his position struggles (x) × team struggles (y) ^ time on the sidelines (t)

Dave M
Dave M

Wow exponentially proportional to the time a player is out injured. Surprising revelation.

Billy
Billy

I’m not sure that’s fair, while he is not a right back either he is performing much better then he has there before. I can’t really think of many “ridiculous” fouls, he’s older and more polished. I also don’t think anyone is not behind our young players. I like everyone else like amn, but will point out anytime that he is less a right back then chambers.

mc1892
mc1892

I’m not sure anything that United team mustered can be classified as a storm. Rode a slight breeze and bit of drizzle perhaps. Should be giving them far more of a tough game than that with these players. I’d love to see what Willock and Guendouzi could do playing ahead of Torreira. Shame it looks like we never will.

Neil
Neil

do you mean ahead of Xakha? As for the match, the guardian put it well (sadly) that this looked like a match between two mid-table sides.

mjc1892
mjc1892

Sorry, mean ahead in the physical/ position sense. Not in the pecking order, so to speak!

Okester
Okester

I got that from the originnal post 😉

Goo-nerd
Goo-nerd

I disagree with Luiz; it was not a great game. The kids put on a better performance against Forest last week than the first team put on yesterday.

Midfield again slow and ponderous, choosing safe lateral passes rather than progressing the ball down the field.

We could not clear the first man with any of our set pieces today (Pepe and Ceballos).

Pepe squandered the ball from so many promising positions and jogged back on several occasions leaving Chambers exposed.

The only players who come away from this performance with any sort of credit are Saka, Kolasinac and to some extent, Chambers. Every other player played well before the standard expected of them.

Emery again with a scared performance and conservative approach. This was the most vulnerable we’ll ever see United at OT and the man played only DMs in a flat three, relying on Luiz to send long balls over the top.

I’m pretty over Emery TBH.

Goo-nerd
Goo-nerd

Well below*

Dave M
Dave M

I thought Luiz and Sokratis both put in shifts today. They’ve both been poor of late so it was good to see them play a big part in us … well … not falling apart. Luiz’s passing and control was very composed and they both made timely interventions. Chambers too was excellent. And again I don’t get what Kola did wrong. He wasn’t brilliant, but he was there and solid (mostly on defense tonight, which people love to slate him for). This isn’t a terrible point in a but-shell (not great, but not terrible), but it reassured all the problems I see with our current team…completely unbalanced and disfunctional midfield that struggles in open play on defense, and is missing a link to the attacking three that look at times completely isolated. Playing xhaka puts reigns on Guendouzi, who was brilliant again – basically everywhere, but he has to cover so much on defense because Xhaka is a bloody walking liability out there – and sticking Torreira basically as our attacking midfielder is madness. Surely, Surely we have to see this:
DM – Torreira
CM1 – Guendouzi
CM2 – Willock

[option to slot in ceballos or Ozil for one of the two CMs when we need more creativity]…This love affair for Xhaka is insane and knows no bounds. And it was the same problems under wenger. Xhaka is the 2nd coming of Rasputin – twisting managerial minds at arsenal since 2017.

Mouise
Mouise

Ceballos has 40 minutes to show creativity and he didn’t. Same last time. Same the time before… Same even against Burnley (don’t mention the two assists: the goals are all Laca and Auba). Stop putting him and Özil on the same level… or we talk about Özil’s pass to Ainsley against Watford: THAT is creativity, not a louse ball for the strikers to do the rest.

Dave M
Dave M

ummmm…Might be looking into this Ceballos-Ozil link a bit much eh?! Ceballos has been fine, not great, but far from bad (especially since he has mostly played alonside Xhaka, who seems to make all his fellow mids shift their roles – against Burnley without Xhaka he was excellent). Ozil is a great player – but he is still a flawed talent and has he ever had a good away day against a top 6? That game wasn’t really suited to Mesut as a starter (madness not to include him on the bench). I’m all about getting Mesut more game time – what is going on now is a joke. But it should be coming at home in the EPL (at least to start with).

All that aside if you look again you’ll see my preferred midfield is Torreira-Guendouzi-Willock. I think that would provide enough in attack to adequately support the attack. Willock and Guendouzi have shown they have the drive to get through the middle of the pitch to support attack, but they have also shown they have a nifty pass in their back pockets too (see Douzi assist for Auba against Sp*rs – Willock making key passes in most games he’s played). Add to that you then have a FAR more mobile midfield that will hustle to cover the defense (something Mesut has never really been super into although he’ll occasionally do it to rapturous applause).

chopper4001
chopper4001

When was the last time Ozil played in an away match to a top 6 side? Genuine question. I don’t think he has under Emery and he was injured at the back end of Wenger’s tenure.

Can’t really say how he’d play in one tbh. Hell, at the moment we can’t really say how he’d play in any game in the PL, let alone away from home to a dysfunctional Manure.

I reckon he’d have created at least one chance for Auba last night, had he played instead of Pepe (for example), but who knows? Not me certainly.

Neil
Neil

two absolutely sensible comments. cheers

Tankard Gooner
Tankard Gooner

Thinking of Xhakha, I’m reminded of a line from The Usual Suspects towards the beginning where one copper tells the other ‘the gimp is protected from up on high by the Prince of Darkness’

Newxieland
Newxieland

Amidst all the doom and gloom and Emery outs think we should at least give him till the end of the season.

Automatic CL qualification along with a cup win would be considered a success.

Style and identity hopefully to come in season 3…

lessthanthesumoftheirparts
lessthanthesumoftheirparts

I can’t see how you can be so confident of CL qualification and a cup win with the clueless dross this team is serving up week in week out. What are we waiting for? He’s had over 60 games. I could understand that if he didn’t have the players at his disposal. But this squad is stacked full of quality and variety from youth and experience. Yet we are seeing some of the most dismal unadventurous football at this club since the Premier League began.

metaberg
metaberg

Yep I’d totally give him till the end of the season. I don’t want us to turn into Chelski sacking managers every 5 mins.

But yeah, please stick to some sort of football philosophy we can identify. I have no idea what he is trying to do anymore.

Dave M
Dave M

I’m all for that, but really can you see us getting to third place with the current lack of balance in the middle of the pitch and now with a big source of that imbalance as our captain? Auba just keep papering over the cracks with his sheer brilliance. I truly think we have a strong squad and a team that can push on right now, but I don’t trust Unai to be the guy to do it nor with Xhaka (our bloody captain) as the centre piece, defensive midfielder, and deep-lying play-maker in our midfield. With that I see us at best scrapping into 4th if we get so much luck and more likely 5th or 6th.

Maul Person
Maul Person

He’s already had a season. What will another one show us? Pep was bossing the league in his second season as he learned all he needed to in season 1. Why should we accept what Emery is doing in his second season which looks like a manager getting to grips with a new team and a new league?

Dave
Dave

He’s declined

santi's thigh grab
santi's thigh grab

Rather sack him now and give the reigns to Freddie for the remainder of the season. Emery’s set up isn’t going to change and that set up isn’t going to win games. But most of all, the football is not fun to watch. It’s frustrating to watch the team set up in such a way not to get the best from the sum of the parts. On paper we have a much better team than MUFC but Emery can’t build a team around the payers strengths that are available to him. Emery is set to die on Xhaka mountain.

Godonga
Godonga

A point at Old Traford and 4th spot on the log is not bad coz other so called top 6 six teams are likely to drop points there. My worry is the coach and his treatment of Ozil. if you were to ask me choose between the coach and Ozil for a sacking, i would choose Emery. i seriously think this coach is Europa League material, Arsenal deserve a Champions League coach. Fabio Capelo please!!!!

Mouise
Mouise

UE did also much harm in PSG: ask Ben Arfa (or even Neymar to a lesser extend).

Cycs

You had to fuck it all up by suggesting Capello, didn’t ya ?!🤔

Ogeds
Ogeds

Why can’t I comment on the new app unless I view on the browser?

Dave
Dave

Because the new app isn’t great. Only good for notifications tbh.

Berlingoon
Berlingoon

when your top striker with a 16 goals in 16 games record is putting in crosses from the left for your 1,50 meter defensive midfielder something is fundamentally wrong with the tactics. It’s obvious for nearly everybody exept our coach and our captain.

Tankard Gooner
Tankard Gooner

Some shoddy basic measurements apart, fine point!

Kbs
Kbs

Is there any way to access comment section via app or it’s only in browser? Help please

EMERY OUT - NOW!!!
EMERY OUT - NOW!!!

SACK EMERY NOW!!!

He persists in playing fucking Xhaka at DM when we have Torreria, like what is the fucking point? Our best midfield consists of Torreria, Ceballos, Willock or Guendouzi NOT Xhaka! Play him in the cups, play in an advanced position, just not at DM – its obvious for everyone not named Emery or associated with the club to see. I blame them all, Raul, Edu, all of them. They see this shit happening and still allow Emery to do his bullshit – all their fucking heads should be on the line!

Did we seriously go to OT against the SHIT Man U team and set up for a draw??
I would rather go there and attack those fucking clowns and lose by an unfortunate goal or something other than that shite.

As for Pepe, I hope in a year’s time I’m proud wrong but I’m calling it now, he’s a big fucking BUST! All he does is his lame dribbles that go nowhere – fuck confidence, fuck time to settle in, fuck everything. When you cost £72M, you need to do a bit more – not scoring, at least assist – do something. Maybe I’m being harsh on him and its Emery’s fault but fuck me, he needs to get a move on – nothing I’ve seen from him so far has impressed me, NOTHING!!

On a positive, Saka, take a bow son!! He looks more like a £72M player!

Fuck you Emery, I’m done. Not allowing you to play with my emotions no more – Wenger did enough of that and I had to withdraw for sanity/health sakes so for self-preservation I’m gonna do the same again – until Emery is sacked (because he’s so shit, I promise you, he WILL not turn it around), I won’t be watching the Arsenal as a fan. I know so many of you will say ‘you’re not a real fan’ etc but think about it, it’s because I’m real fan why I’m doing this. You don’t know how I get when we do the same shit and hope for different results – it actually blows my mind. It physically hurts to watch Arsenal nowadays, we don’t challenge for shit, we sell our best players – we are an absolute laughing stock and you can all suger-coat it all you want with players still want to come to us etc, they do because we’ll pay them handsomely or they grew up supporting Henry, Vieira etc – they do not come because they think we are gonna turn teams over and win shit

You are a shit manager, I backed you with friends all last year but you are a joke. When you were appointed, I was so happy to see Wenger go (please let’s not go into that – I absolutely loved Wenger until I realised he was too stubborn and wouldn’t change) that I did not remember that you were the same c**t leading 4-0 against Barca but then lost 6-5, like what??? Mind-blown!! I hope you somehow see this and all the opinions of fans and take the hint and fuck off…know it won’t happen but hey, I can pray and hope!!

Sorry guys but I had to get that rant off my chest – it’s months overdue!

Tankard Gooner
Tankard Gooner

Months, eh? Season only started last month. Anyway, why don’t you calm down a bit and take everything in perspective… There’s so much more to life than Arsenal! As for us, we’re still 4th and ahead of the rest of the so called top 6 and have already faced liverpool, spurs and united already within the first 7 games! Agree, this starting with 3 DMs when we should have gone for the kill needs to stop.

EMERY OUT - NOW!!!
EMERY OUT - NOW!!!

When I say months, I’m referring back to last year.

Ok, you are right, I do need to calm down a bit. That was held inside from Watford/Villa and it boiled over.

As for more to life than Arsenal, I know and agree. That’s why I learned to disconnect, that’s why I travel as much as I can, that’s why I love playing basketball, that’s why I try to educate myself as much as possible but it doesn’t change the fact; the Arsenal are a big part of who I am, have been since I was 8 and will be till I die (not being dramatic, just honest).

To your point, yes, the season is not progressing badly but that’s probably where you and I defer. I didn’t grow up with Arsenal struggling to finish 4th, yes I know there were dark times but for the most part, we were feared and challengers most seasons. This might be a knee jerk reaction but still, tell me you are happy with what you are seeing?

Its more the football we are playing. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want us going to OT gung-ho and losing heavily again but I’m sick and tired of the insipid dross that we’re exhibiting.

But the biggest problem is I hoped we had moved on from one stubborn manager but we seem to have just picked up another. I understand Xhaka and Emery might have an actual affection towards one and another but doesn’t he have eyes? Can’t he see and analyse things? Did he not see how the game changed when he subbed Xhaka against Villa and brought on Willock etc?

This is the same man who is branded a specialist in the Europa League, we banked our whole season on winning that and getting to CL that way and that was your tactics? That was how you motivate players in the biggest game of the season?

Ausdrexler
Ausdrexler

See ya!

WengersNoseHair
WengersNoseHair

I wonder what Edu makes of our shambolic displays. Surely he must be having words in private with Emery.

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

Xhaka ducking out of the wau of the shot did it for me. Our scared captain.

Mark
Mark

The only thing to be optimistic about this year seems to be the young core we have in Guendouzi, Holding, Saka, Willock, Chanbers, AMN, Tierney, Martineli, etc.. Of course Aubameyang is playing great and carrying us, but it’s the young players that have me excited about the future (as long as we get a manager that will best utilize their talents).

TOGooner
TOGooner

I think AMN, who has put in shifts in an unfamiliar and ill suiting fullback position, but has given it his all, deserves to be rewarded. I think he should be given a shot in Pepe’s position at RW.
He will give better defensive cover for chambers and give Pepe a break from getting slaughtered by our fan base while he adapts.

Jht
Jht

Most of the fans are whining and moaning after decent performance, mocking and crying over although it wasnt that bad. What the heck is wrong with you? Its only football, enjoy and take it easy. Could have gone either way.

Oregoon

Chambers could get a new position in public relations. Nice try, but I don’t think the performance was all that good on the whole.

As to filling in for AMN and Hector, thought Chambers has done a fairly decent job including yesterday. This seems to be a stretch given the manager, but would really like to see him tried in the mid-field. A pretty decent passer, definitely good at reading the game, and he would not have to be in as many one on one situations in the middle as playing fullback or CB. Watched some Fulham last year and he was definitely not out of his depth as their main DM.

Tony Hall
Tony Hall

Blogs put it very well *Emery is trying his best but the club is too big for him* and his style of play is too defensive for Arsenal. Unless we have some sort of revelation this season and win a cup or two/qualify for CL again I cannot see his contract being renewed (I don’t see us sacking a manager mid season so we may have to just wait it out till the summer).

As to the level of abuse he is getting on here, he doesn’t deserve it. To those of you laying into him *fuck you Emery, Emery is shit, fuck off now* etc etc how would you feel if you were not good enough for your job even though you were trying your best and that level of abuse was being hurled at you every day? It doesn’t matter how much he earns compared to us a job is a job. Constructive criticism is fine, abuse is not !

Oregoon

I don’t think he is going anywhere for the time being no matter the banter. Not a fan of Emery’s by any means, but he still has four players on the sidelines that should be consistent starters, so maybe we should chill for a bit and see how things work out over the next couple of months.