Despite much speculation, and indeed fiction, regarding the clause in Luis Suarez’s contract, Liverpool have let it be known this evening that there’s no obligation on their part to sell him despite Arsenal’s bid of £40,000,001.
The general consensus is that Arsenal, having somehow come to know of a clause in the Uruguayan’s contract, made a bid which they thought would trigger a move automatically.
Liverpool clearly, and very obviously, thought different. Tonight, via various newspapers, an Anfield source said, “We’ve all examined the clause in detail. All it obliges is for us to enter good faith negotiations about Luis’s future. There is absolutely no obligation to sell and that is very clear.”
So, all the theories suggesting it was because Arsenal weren’t yet a Champions League club because they’re playing a qualifier, or the stories about Suarez going to the Premier League to seek arbitration are, essentially, nonsense.
Suarez and his agent thought one thing, got it completely wrong, and now, having cheesed off Liverpool something rotten, Arsenal will have to go really, really big to sign him.
£50m minimum, by the looks of it, and at the end of the day, regardless of how good you think he is, that’s a massive chunk of our transfer funds.
Based on the current market, that would have bought us Higuain and Paulinho, for example. It seems that Arsenal have misjudged this one, bidding on the back of bum info, so now what do they do?
Keep bidding to try make it look like it was all part of the plan, or move on to someone else? And who exactly is that someone else at this stage?
Whatever happens, this thing has turned ugly, and ugly is rarely sorted quickly.
It could be a smokescreen, I’m sure there are at least 4 players coming in so threadbare the squad is. Lamela, Cesar, Capoue & a forward (Suarez/Martinez?)
Its a reality check actually. Arsene just got hit on the face with that “you should have fucking signed Higuain!”
Arsenal’s activities this summer (especially Gazidis’ Statements) are exposing some really shocking naivety.
Time to move on, he’s not worth 50m, he was great last season if you don’t count all the biting racism, but the season before he wasn’t that special really, i think he gives the ball away to often as well.
How about Dzeko instead? you could probably get Dzeko a CB and a keeper for 50m pound.
I have been advocate of signing Dzeko for a long time, but I would be surprised if he leaves – Pellegrani rates him and why would MC sell him to an English club? When he would be in huge demand in Germany?
In brackets are goals scored. Number before brackets are appearances
2007–2011
Ajax 110 (81)
2011–
Liverpool 77 (38)
2007–
Uruguay 69 (35)
Can play the Raul position, has instinct like Inzaghi, can play wide like Henry, has the temperament of a Batistuta and can harass defenders like Messi
He is a complete centre forward who can also provide moments of personal match winning brilliance. Can take free kicks too. 50m? Oh yes please. Let stan worry about the bill….
For someone who is concerned about not wasting money why would you then spend millions on someone like Dzeko when he’s an almost identical type of player Giroud, but a damn sight uglier….
Dzeko is simply awful. A crap version of Giroud.
City can keep him, hopeffuly for a long, long time.
Fernando Torres anyone?
Chelsea may sell him on, the relationship between the two clubs are improving and we could tempt Chelsea with 15 million I reckon.
Worth the gamble I think.
Why sign Torres when we have Park & Chamakh, who have a similar goal scoring record in the premier league.
Lots of egg on faces by the end of this me thinks.
@Arshavin’s Dietician
Not the same. Park & Chamakh was never in the same class as pre-Chelsea Torres. He was immense for Liverpool and only properly replaced with Suarez.
I’m gambling that a rejuvenation in his career might see him emulate his scoring form for Liverpool.
The relatively cheap price too of course
@Open Goal, the reason Liverpool sold him was because he was already losing his touch. Chelsea was the move to rejuvenate his career, and it failed. He’s done.
(I reserve the right to deny this post existed if he ever scores against us)
Vote up if you think we should pay record fee and sign Suarez.
Vote down if you think we should use that money to strengthen the squad instead.
are you inferring that signing Suarez wouldn’t strengthen our squad?
Getting out of hand. Also Suarez and Higuain were not the only centre forwards on the market this summer. What about Benteke?
who?
And Jovetic. Lots of speculation around him for ages then City snap him up for around £23m. A snip in comparison to what we’ll have to pay if we really do want Suarez. Can’t understand why other clubs are able to get their transfer business done so easily yet we always get left behind. But then I suppose City and the other sugar daddy bank rolled clubs play by a different set of rules. Even so, I do think we drag the transfers out a bit to say the least.
Er, Benteke is staying at Villa
Haha..give it a rest you people…always looking to tell Arsene “I told you so”…who are you? Whats so great about Higuain anyway. Suarez is much better and knows this league.
Yeah like we will sign Suarez!
What have you been smoking over Overmars?
though I mean no desrespect
to this gentle man, but i think
we’re the gervinho of this
transfer window, our
unpredictability and
indecisiveness is legendary
That’s a terrible poem. It doesn’t even rhyme.
so dissapointing!
utter dissapointing!
Good faith negotiations is an accepted legal term . Good case to make that LFC going to press evidence theyre notnegotisting in good faith
Absolutely agree, if Liverpool adopt a just say no strategy that would not be construed as acting in good faith. In order to comply with such a provision they would have to enter into negotiations on reasonable commercial terms. If he has informed them that he wants to leave then their only option is to sell him for the best possible price.
Except that bidding a pound over a confidential contract clause is also not negotiating in good faith, so good luck with that.
Arsenal are not a party to the contract between Suarez.and Liverpool.
An incredible coincidence then?
They shouldn’t be, but they demonstrably are, due to Suarez’s representatives breaching the Premier League’s contractual confidentiality rules, which is not an act of good faith negotiation.
He meant that Arsenal have no responsibilities / obligations in regards to a contract between Suarez and Liverpool.
Except that under Premier League rules, they do. Just look up what happened in the transfer of Christian Zeige from Middlesbrough to Liverpool.
There’s no obligation to negotiate in good faith. The decision in Petromec merely suggested that any kind of obligation would only exist in limited circumstances (i.e. a pre-existing contractual relationship). There’s no such requirement to do so here however. See http://www.cliffordchance.com/publicationviews/publications/2011/07/a_contractual_obligationtonegotiateingoo.html
Is there an English version of that post? o_O
It refers to English law. Or my English?
Interesting, so such a provision may or may not be enforceable depending on the detailed terms of the contract between the parties. A situation where two opposing lawyers can make a lot of money. However, if it is true that Suarez has told Liverpool he wants out, then one way or another that will happen, the uncertainty is which club he will join.
Lewandowski plz.
Lewandowski, pretty please, with sugar on top. He’s worth 50 million pounds (Now watch Wenger bid 35 million lbs for RL. SMH)
Where do you slot Giroud then? He is going to have a great year and he does so much with his knockdowns and flicks.
Where do you slot Giroud then? He is going to have a great year and he does so much with his knockdowns and flicks.
Giroud’s flicks rarely work to be honest. It’s selective memory, the same thing applied to Song’s through balls by the way – people remember his 4-5 difficult through balls a season which our former striker managed to put away with world class technique, but in fact he gave the ball away 5-10 times a game just because he tried to pull off something he could rarely manage. Same with Giroud’s flicks. He might have a better season, he might not, but he isn’t a world class striker, in fact he is quite an average one when you remember back to… Read more »
and your selective memory only remembers the ones that failed..
the ones that worked..gave us points…
the ones that didn’t work didn’t exactly lose us points…just part of the play not going 100% as wanted.
I 100% agree with progman about OG. Giroud lacks the finesse of a top striker – his misses in front of goal, esp against Everton, came very close to dumping us out of the CL positions. He’s a hard worker, but he just doesn’t have the required guile of an Arsenal striker. We would have been home and hosed with a proper striker last season, instead of needing a near miraculous unbeaten run of games for the 4th spot. I would seriously go after Lewandowski. He is a proven top level perfprmer and he will sit very nicely in our… Read more »
Lewandowski, pretty please, with sugar on top. He’s worth 50 million pounds (Now watch Wenger bid 35 million lbs for RL. SMH)
It’s all fucking boring!
People need to realise as nice as the idea of Lewandowski being an option is, it is an absolute non-starter. He has proven to be a bit of an Ass to in the process. Dortmund, just the team that gave him his chance, were unwilling to negotiate with Bayern Munich because of their nasty tactics of releasing details of the impending Goetze transfer just hours before their ECL match with Real Madrid. They were willing to negotiate with any other team outside Bundesliga, for acceptable fee for a highly sought after striker entering his final year of contract, but Lew… Read more »
To be honest Arsenal dont need a striker……..we need class of 4 players……..
Cesc Fabregas
Marco Reus
Eteinne Capoue/Fellaine
a defender
We have Goal scorer Podolski,Giroud,Theo and Cazorla, bringing i n Cesc and Reus it will be a +2
It looks like a great idea in my opinion. Our creativity has suffered a lot since the breakup of the Hleb-Cesc-Rosicky triangle, and absolutely died when Cesc left. We could dominate the big teams again with those midfielders.
fair comment … so you don’t want Suarez either then I presume … he’s cut from the exact same cloth as the two players you are discussing
referencing Damien’s original comment here
To be totally honest, I don’t like the idea of spending that much on a mercenary cunt, but if he joined i’d support him in the hope we’d win something, and because ultimately I have no say in the matter. But for 50m plus, Falcao could have been bought. Or …….Higuain!!!
I would have preferred either of those two to Suarez, but if we spent 10-17m each on CB, DM, AM L/R (someone like Nani but NOT Nani) and a decent GK I would be happier
Also shows Bayern for what we know they are….a shower of bastards!
I’d be happy to test Lewandowski’s resolve on the Bayern matter – make him an offer – we have a team with strong German/Polish affinities, more than at any other time in our team’s history. And we will offer better money and a better chance to start every game and Prem League football.
Make him an offer, see what happens.
As an aside – I can’t see Cesc ever (ever ever) moving to Manchester and Moyes, a manager who on one occasion was particularly nasty to Cesc as I recall it. He’ll be staying at Barca methinks.
WOW !!!!!!! GREAT !!!!
apologies in advance. this is going to be a bit long. lewandowski, suarez, and our overall squad depth are discussed: more than 80% of Lewandowsi’s goals come from the fact that the defences he’s playing against give him too much space and time when he’s on the ball. this is in part because of the quality of the defences in the German league as well as the fact that there are some incredible players in the Dortmund squad who make the opponents mark them and hence Lewandowski finds more space and less defenders on him. another thing I noticed with… Read more »
I think you’re forgetting a couple of things.
1. The only improvement that we can offer him is wages. In every other respect Dortmund->Arsenal is a downgrade.
2. Dortmund have accepted multiple offers for Lewndowski but he only wants to go to Bayern (I think Klopp admitted this himself).
Lewandowski wouldn’t work at Arsenal. he’d be too slow. he wouldn’t get the time and space on the ball that he does in Germany. They also play much more direct than Arsenal.
i don’t think he’s as good as Suarez is at creating his own space. Suarez runs past defenders like they’re not there.
definitely not worth 50 million. I’d not pay anything over 15 / 20 million for Lewandowski.
“Lewandowski wouldn’t work at Arsenal. he’d be too slow. he wouldn’t get the time and space on the ball that he does in Germany.”
“i don’t think he’s as good as Suarez is at creating his own space”.
Tell that to Real Madrid’s back four.
Or Bayern’s back four, for that matter. Lewandowski has slaughtered them regularly over the past three seasons. Why else would Bayern be trying to abduct him?
you missed the point even when i specifically mentioned it – it’s not the English league he was playing in, against Madrid and Bayern.
in the Champions League, you get more time and space on the ball.
I really have no idea what the clause actually says, but I don’t think you ought simply take the word of an “unnamed Anfield source” who is apparently going to all the papers and saying the same thing. Funny how no one at Liverpool will actually let their name be used, when they were all willing to say things about Suarez’s valuation. It’s all very curious.
But who knows, maybe Pere Guardiola fucked this up nicely.
Also, I’d point out that the statement attributed to the unname Anfield source does not explain WHY there is no obligation to sell. If there is a clause requiring a sale to a CL club and Liverpool’s interpretation is that Arsenal is not in CL because they have not qualified for the group stages, then the Liverpool statement does nothing to eliminate that possibility. It means that Liverpool feels it is under no legal obligation to sell. And the statement is not actually evidence of the contract terms, only of Liverpool’s interpretation of the contract terms.
Agree 100%. Arseblog has a bias and agenda here, very quick to label as “fiction” things that he doesn’t agree with (as evidenced by his correspondence with Jeremy Lebor and Geoff on Twitter). We don’t know what the clause or clauses say, and we certainly shouldn’t take an unnamed Liverpool representative’s words as the whole story.
“Bias and agenda” is a bit dramatic, don’t you think? It’s his opinion. It’s hardly Fox News.
I have to disagree strongly. I don’t think Arseblog has an agenda here at all. I watched the video posted on this site where he and four other Gooner bloggers did a webcast over 50 minutes. The only agenda I could discern, apart from them all being serious Arsenal fans, was frustration at the way the transfer season has panned out, yet again. They were all shocked that, all of a sudden, all our eggs were in the Suarez basket. How did that come to pass? What about signings of centre backs, defensive midfielders or goalkeepers? They didn’t say so,… Read more »
I think you ought to look at what Jeremy was saying closely. You don’t need to be a genius to work out it’s probably nonsense. I was perfectly civil in my discussion with him and I’m sure he gave his information in good faith, but from everything Liverpool have said, on top of this, it doesn’t make any sense.
No, it’s what clubs do. They leak information to the press to suit their own agenda, but very rarely are direct quotations used and this is clearly Liverpool returning Arsenal’s serve having done a big poo on the ball.
A major poo on the ball. Arsenal need to rethink their approach for Suarez and probably refocus to another target. They must have more than one option really????? Seriously they have to have more than one option.
if he did suarez would def have sacked him…
Overmars, I really really wish I had your positive way of thinking.
Fact is, we’ve signed no one, and it looks like no one’s coming.
I thought by now the names of Williams, Cesar and Higuain would be Arsenal players. They’re not, and probably never will be
Let us pray and that things wil change dis season i believe we wil sign suarez nd cesar
Is it just me or has this sort of thing happened before? *De ja vu* The roller-coaster of emotions this club puts me through…
The club are looking more foolish and indecisive by the day. We’re once again going to be pushed into reactive signings rather then well planned ones. It wouldn’t surprise me if the next signing we make is Gareth Barry on deadline day.
Agreed.
I think we totally screwed up. We probably talked to Suarez and recieved information from his agent that 40m would activate the clause, therefore we told Real Madrid they can go fuck themselves with 31m for Higuain and now we have none.
I think we should sign some top top top top top top quality negotiators first.
You’re spot on with your explanation, but probably it’s not negotiator who fucked up, it’s legal team. If they were asked for an opinion. But anyway, that’s just naivety, I can’t believe the Club went for what agent was saying. Even if he was a brother of the Dalai Lama it still is a fucking football agent. Sadness my friends.
If Suarez doesn’t hand in a transfer request, that’s us Fucked then.
Try to Hijack Spuds deal for Soldado?
If we wanted to spend so much money on a striker, why not talk to Falcao or Cavani?
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The club are lost and appear to have a non-existent transfer strategy. You think Falcao would’ve chosen Monaco over us?
yes
yes
yes because Falcao go for the money
Exactly, Falcao didn’t even want to go to Monaco. He was forced in to it, which was why he cried when he left.
Exactly, Falcao didn’t even want to go to Monaco. He was forced in to it, which was why he cried when he left.
i recon its because its not only getting a brilliant player, but also fucking over a rival, making them weaker.
I agree. We’ve done our bit, time for Suarez to do his. Really wouldn’t surprise me if we got Nando from the chavs, considering our growing Armada and a potentially budget price. Atletico might have something to say though. If NB52 decides Malaga are big enough for him, and Gamez comes in, Sagna would effectively be a CB. Ebert, Patrick I think, would be a good enough replacement for Gervinho. I’d prefer Reus, however the economics of the bundesligs and the bbva would mean Ebert is more value for money. Ramsey seems like the Arteta replacement in the event of… Read more »
I think the reason for not bidding for those two is not due to lack of interest, but lack of wanting to get into a bidding war with the endless petrol pockets. Right now, nobody else is in for Suarez and he has all the qualities we desire. He also has some qualities we would loathe however. Nobody can deny he is towards the top end of the football player quality. Its just too bad he is not at the top end with his character. It would be ideal if we could find someone who is both, but perhaps we… Read more »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSuhH-h5YuU
There is no way spending 50 million on one of the most volatile players in the league is a good idea. I could MAYBE overlook the cheating/biting/diving if we got him at an absolute bargain, but I will be extremely upset if we pay this much for Suarez considering the other amazing strikers we could have got for 50 mil
Think Arsene has too much faith in his players. Believes that they’re better than they are, that they will be more loyal than they end up being. And that’s why the last few 5 or 6 windows have been so devastating. He really thinks we have a team that can challenge (every time), and that’s the crux of the entire issue, faith. Has a few weeks left, not sure he knows how many people will lose faith in him if they don’t finally use the resources sensibly to strengthen.
You rekon there’s anyway Bendtner could forgive us and sign a new and improved contract?
B52 will be like our new signing.
I agree he’s been lost for so long I reckon Arsene is preparing to parade him tommorow. a danish goal poacher with an eye for goal he will then convince us that we’ve never laid eyes on him before and we might just believe!
Furic, normally I would have given a brief chuckle at your Bendtner joke. But not today… just plain and simples not funny at all. 🙁
I think we should forget signing any new players, and focus on where we really need some new talent…..as whoever is in charge of new acquisitions is a bit shit.
We had one already, David Dein but Hill-Wood & the rest of the money grabbing board got rid of him
David Dein sold his shares first…i dont know about money grabbing but this glorifying of ignorance irks me. i am sure we are all not happy but lets stick to the fact however emotional we are.
And it’s repeated so often, you want to address it but cannot be bothered to do so repeatedly……mainly because the poster has probably read the correct version of events somewhere but REFUSES to believe it. Ignoramuses.
Why didn’t we see Rodgers stay and see out the three years left on his own contract at Swansea? I can’t fathom the double standards behind Rodgers expecting Suarez to do this and sacrifice
CL football and £30,000 week earnings while it was fine for Rodgers to advance his own personal career in exactly the same (good season, three years left on contract) circumstances to improve his situation and earnings at the first opportunity a suitor comes calling with a better offer?
Its almost like i’m saying sell us suarez for £40M you twats!
So true. That “loyalty” Rodgers is demanding from Suarez is a load of shit. I doubt it has much bearing on what Suarez wants to do, but still, the comments from Rodgers are nauseating.
Morons, Rodgers didnt instigate a racism row for which the entire Liverpool institution stuck it’s neck out and was ridiculed in the process. Rodgers didnt have to be defended at every turn during his stay at swansea, even Arsenal could never have offered such staunch support and blind faith. All Rodgers is asking for is for him to repay all that. Hypocrits.
Am of course a liverpool fan and who wants Suarez gone cos hes a 2 faced conniving punk and couldn’t care less if he’s sold to your lot but dont be self righteous.
All that my distateful foe was because the player in question was luis suarez, a thirty goal a season premier league striker!. I doubt any of downing, shelvey would still be yapping around after doing any of what Suarez did.
Rodgers and whole of pool compromised with suarez not because they are pfft good human beings but simply because the player in questioj.is world class and not easy to replace. get off your high horse now sir!
Absolutely. Downing would never have got away with that. Plus 20m profit on a player works out at a good return for the support.
@Fencegooner,
I’ll take it that you had temporary amnesia or simply chose to muddle facts. At the time of the racism row which was 2 seasons ago, Suarez wasn’t a “30goal” striker. He barely managed 20 after a season characterized by frustrating finishing.
There is hope. We still have TGSTEL
Maybe he’s been recruited as Dick Law and Order’s deputy. The Greatest Negotiator That’s Ever Lived.
For that sort of money would could even get (player’s willing) Rooney & Fellani. I refuse to believe there is not better value in the market at the moment than £50-55m or Suarez!
Hello everyone, I’d quite like us to steal Soldado (spelling?) off them spuds.
If Suarez is not an option, I’d want the club to look at Rooney, only because I think we need a striker who is Prem proven. I’m not convinced by Soldado.
It’s funny that countenancing a move for Rooney now looks okay to us after the Suarez interest. It’s almost like that was planned.
If that was planned, that was a stroke of genius.
if we pay them 50 million, they’ll probably buy heskey for 25 million
I think we should turn our attention to Downing. .. he’s awesome. .. Maybe chuck in Jack as part exchange
I think we should turn our attention to Downing. .. he’s awesome. .. Maybe chuck in Jack as part exchange
I’m so flipping tired of this.. How have we managed to exceptionally balls another summer up?! I can only imagine the atmosphere this weekend at the Emirates Cup. Is it even worth turning up anymore?
I was so optimistic but have now grown so disillusioned and let down by Arsene this summer.. For once I actually think he just might have lost it..
We can only hope.
that atmosphere is going to be TOXIC. not going to be good for anyone at all, really. ugh.
A pal of mine tried to get an ST last year and the club told him he was 4 years down the waiting list. This summer they contacted to see if he wanted the ST. People want to see stars. If Arsene doesn’t want to buy any then only he is to blame for the half empty stadium
We didn’t balls up last summer: Podolski, Giroud, and Cazorla? Awesome. I don’t think we’ll balls up this summer, either. Have faith.
minus RVP, minus Song, not so awesome.
Yeah…point taken.
Song was a liability. Look how much better defensively we were this year without even replacing him. He never used his brain to play, only force. He preferred to ignore his defensive duties to play more attacking, but our attacking mids are FAR better suited to that than he was and they had to curb their attacking play to cover for him. Not acceptable. RVP went public with a statement that left him basically unkeepable. With these things in mind RVP + Song Out and Podolski + Giroud + Cazorla in was amazing business last year. I think its a… Read more »
Oops double post
Triple post, if you consider that you could have at least replied to the second one.
Thanks for posting this, though. I have a rare neurological disorder which prevents me from identifying two identical posts, one under the other. Good job you pointed it out!
So we pulled out of signing Higuain on a false perception that we could get Suarez and are now left with no possible world class striker for less than £50m? Superb. Really, Really hope we have someone (or two, or three, or four) else of quality lined up…
Alexis Sanchez? Saw some internet “rumors” about Arsenal “interest”, so basically made-up. But I bet we could tempt Barca with a strong bid and he was highly sought after before becoming a bit anonymous at Barca.
So can we please sign Capoue, Williams, Bernard, and an excellent 20 plus goals per season striker who only Wenger knows about?
Bernard is going to Shaktar
Wenger will sign whoever he wants, and if it pisses off the supporters, so much the better because what do they know, never having spent five minutes managing a football club?
Wenger, you are a busted flush, living off past glories, and very handsomely too!
[Release clause B]
It is however likely for the clubs to reach a compromise deal of £45M after suarez yet again hands in a second transfer request: a bite this time to one of his own teammates on the trainning ground……
Arsenal f’ing up transfers, there must be a mistake here. Dick Law, Ivan and Arsene are usually so good at getting these things done quickly
More egg on faces if they pull away now so Liverpool will milk this for all they can
I feel some panic buys coming on & I don’t like it one bit.
Has anyone noticed that we’re 8 players lighter than this time last year?
Ok so some of those are on loan but while they’re not warning our benches we’re looking pretty thin on the ground with not long left to thicken things up.
I’m off to buy a black scarf…
The winners in the transfer market are the winners on the pitch. It has always been so.SAF spent 31 mill on Berbatov when he already had Rooney and Ronaldo and it got Man U an EPL title. This is how teams win. They identify weak spots and spend what the market dictates on enough of those players to challenge for titles. If Wenger doesn’t want to play that game fair enough, but then he should stop saying he thinks the team can win because it’s a blatant LIE and fans know it
The board is SHIT
I had almost accepted that I would have to support suarez, and even if we don’t sign anyone else (yeah yeah sanogo,whatever) at least suarez is still a vile, bitey, diving racist scumbag who plays for Liverpool, hah. Not that that really makes up for the huge mess this transfer window has become, but you’ve got to enjoy the little things in life.
So why did we bid 30 million if we actually realy thought that a bid of over 40 would be an automatic sell. It would make the first bid a waste of time
This whole thing stinks from arsenal.
Very good point mate. Shame you couldn’t defeat Potter. Well anyway, good luck at Swansea.
Because you’d save 10m if the first bid goes through.
My only hope is that when we were so keen on higuain, Suarez kinda came out of nowhere, so surely it can happen again… Basically I’ve gone from hugely optimistic this summer to bring for mystery signings. cheers arsenal.
If Suarez costs £50m, then why not pay that for him? We’re a big club, right?
If Real can pay £100m for a chimp, then we can pay half that for Bitey Mcgee.
Chimpy as he may be, he’s not as cancerous as Mr. Bitey McGee. Sure Bale is a spud, but he’s not exactly going around getting himself 8 game suspensions every season. Plus he’s a much better player than Suarez.
I’d rather steal Bale from Sp*rs than pick up Mr. Bitey…for those prices.
Let the red, downward facing thumbs take over.
I think you underrate Suarez. He was probably the best attacking player in the Premier League last season and even with his suspension he was second-top scorer.
Yes, we sold the guy above him for half the price it will cost to get the next best.
We really are financial wizards, and this is DEFINITELY the best way to run a self-sustaining and principled club.
That will fucking show them. It will show them all!!!
Ooh la la! Mwahahahahaha…..sorry…..
The guy ‘above him’ had weakened our position severely, was injury prone and was in the last year of his contract. We were not going to challenge for the title either so it’s not like we were hampering our title hopes.
Suarez has three years left on his contract, is younger, has had no significant injury problems and if we get him, Liverpool will be kissing goodbye to 4th place before the season even starts.
Pull your head out of your arse mate.
See if Napoli will sell us Higuain for £40m maybe?
No? Oh well, we’re fucked then.
its a team that paid 20 million for henderson…what else do we expect from them
….hmmm to make sure they don’t get burnt again…wait a sec thats what they doing not being taken for mugs…unlike Arsenal!
The wording in this statement still leaves it open that there is a clause. This CL clause as reported 1) £40m + would allow for neg to take place and 2) If the club are in CL and LFC are not then LS would be free to neg and leave. If this is the case then the statements in tomorrows papers are still correct, if LFC interpret that AFC are not in CL YET. The £40m+ bid has fulfilled the first part of the clause but not yet the second. I think LFC have made this coordinated statement seem equivocal,… Read more »
CL 2nd leg playoff is on the 27th/28th August. Doesn’t leave much time to get things done.
If this interpretation is correct, then it leaves Liverpool with a little bit of leverage, but not alot. The only reason to sign Suarez now is use him for CL qualification since he’s suspended, after that the clause is automatic and he’s free to sign with us.
winning the 1st leg 10-0 would help
What an absolute shambles. If we really bid believing it was a release clause it just proves we are embarrassingly amateurish in our transfer dealing and negotiating. To think we will see Higuain lining up against us at the Emirates on Saturday…This summer beggars belief. Massively raised expectations followed by indecisiveness, timidity and inertia. What the fuck is going on?!
What’s going on is Wenger thinks because we were the best team in the EPL for about 1/5th of the season the lads we have can maintain that for an entire season. Especially when Diaby returns. If we sign no one I predict we got off to a good start falter somewhere in Oct Dec, stay in the top four thru Jan, but then the thinness of the squad will bite hard and we’ll have a struggle to make 4th. All depressingly familiar. I just don’t see Giroud improving much. The guy has no guile in front of goal
Too many people are moaning prematurely. There’s still time to buy players. It sounds like we dropped the ball with Higuain/Suarez though. This kind of crap only happens to us eh?
I think a good signing would be a director of football or just someone who wont dick about when it comes to transfers. Someone who Wenger can say ‘I want X player’ and they go and get them.
“Lewandowski commits to Dortmund after failed Bayern move”
I think a £40m bid for him would stand a chance though
Seriously, why on earth should Lewandowski sign for Arsenal? There’s just no way.
I still have no idea why we gave up on Higuain
That’ll be because Wenger has failed to grasp one of the fundamental principles of player transfers.
It’s the selling club that gets to say how much they’ll sell the player for, not the buying club.
Oops! Unless the buying club is Barcelona and the selling club is us of course.
To make a better judgement of our club, I would really really be interested in a nice piece on who our co-called ‘negotiating team’ actually is and their references etc. Seriously in todays short term football, they’re at least as important as the manager/CEO/etc.
I know Arsenal keep their cards very close for the sake if a durable model (i.e. is spending 50M£ durable?; also we actually still need to qualify for CL) but we really start looking like absolute fools out there – and that to a ridiculous extent.
Am I the only person who finds this clause a little strange? I’m no contact expert, but what exactly is the point of it? If there is no obligation on the part of Liverpool, then what purpose does it serve? Surely they would enter negotiations with anyone making a serious offer, and if it was not to their liking they could just reject it outright. How exactly is that any different than them having to reject an offer on the basis that it does not reach the amount required for them to first consider it before rejecting it? If the… Read more »
The clause is probably there so that there is an opportunity for two clubs to hold meaningful discussions at that price point, decided by Liverpool.
What it isn’t there for is for another club to completely take the piss and try to embarrass them into selling their best player publically.
Imagine the fucking moaning and huffing and puffing from Wenger of say Wilshere had the same clause and Man U were trying the same trick with us.
Really good move by Arsenal. Well thought out and considered.
Terwats!
£55 – 60m and you can have him…lol
You’re like the keystone cops…lol
and you can’t even spell your own player’s name properly …
His prob to busy laughing at Arsenal to type straight. I know I am.
too* busy….. go back to school
Laughing at Arsenal? You’ve got nothing. You’re just a has-been team fighting for Europa League spots. The really funny thing is that despite your descent to mediocrity, you cling desperately to history in order to salvage some dignity.
Before the silly season start I would really pleased if we could be a true title contender by signing Higuain and plus hopefully Fellani, but now………. I don’t know what to say yet and trying to be patient for now , but come 1st of Sept. and Arsenal still do not make any marque signing then I would want to ‘ line up ‘ the Board and Arsene head big time.
Sheer negligence at Arsenal. Wenger is a good coach but a lousy club manager. Gazidis a waste of time. Wengers record of signings is a real mixed bag with some unbelievable mistakes. Chamakh, Squillaci, Gervinho, Cygan, Jeffers. Really bad mistakes. The club needs a David Dein figure who has charisma. Players are not attracted to the dullness we have emanated since Kroenke bought the club. I know that in years to come the truth will come out at Arsenal about the state it is in. Not financially, that’s fine, but some insiders are saying the left and right hands don’t… Read more »
You arsenal fans crack me up. Stop saying you’re a big club you’re been a feeder club for Manure and Barca for the last 5 years – that’s why you have not won anything you sell all your best players and celebrate 4th like you have won the league! You know what makes us a bigger team – would you Arsenal fans managed to organise your international fanbase to remove parasitical owners who tried to destroy your club, would your anthem be recognized throughout the world of sport as one of the most famous sport songs every, can you compare… Read more »
You sad Scouse bastard. I don’t blame you for wanting to keep Suarez, he’s the only talented player left in your squad. But hey, even if we don’t get him ourselves – at least we’ve managed to unsettle him for you guys in the upcoming season.
Tell me whose your best player again? Wilshire isn’t it how much are you going to sell him to Man U for?
Here is a vid of Ivan buying your negotiating for some players
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDXYzUlv0S8
dear oh dear, these scousers cant even afford their own blog to post on after spending all that money on downing
You right, you got me….Downing damn it oh woe is us….ohh hold on a sec we a big team we can take the lose on Downing, its what happens sometimes when you are used to actually buying players over 20mill – not that you know about that
If you mean we don’t have the experience of wasting 20 mil on shit players than yes, we don’t have that experience. By the way, how’s that 50 mil for Carrol work out my wee scouse friend?
In 2011, Sport Markt did a study on global fan bases, with the following results:
Arsenal: 113 million fans
Liverpool: 70 million fans
According to the Forbes rich list, here are the relevant rankings:
Arsenal: 4th
Liverpool: 10th
According to the league table from 2012-13:
Arsenal: 4th
Liverpool: 7th (12 points behind Arsenal)
Here’s the point: if you think the above makes Arsenal the subject of ridicule, what adjectives do you suppose are extreme enough to describe the shit that finished 12 points beneath Arsenal, has a worse fan base, and less money?
I look forward to your response.
Wait, didn’t Loserpool sell Mascherano, Torres and Xabi Alonso. So are you not a selling club yourself?
Yes everyone recognizes Liverpool’s chant because it’s probably one of the most moronic and boring chants ever, I mean seriously I’d rather listen to a vuvuzela for a good 3 hours. “Liverpool Liverpool”. Lool who wrote that, my guess was some Jeremy Kyle offspring from ScouseLand.
uhhh I’m sorry upset much!
Nah I’m good thanks. Bye now 🙂
u havent been to Anfield in the last few years then I guess… no atmosphere there anymore… living in the 80s mate
“Sign on, sign on, with hope in your heart, cause you’ll never get a job… you’ll never get a job” I believe the song yrou refering to is similar to that one aint it? anyway, 1-0 to the Arsenal is one of the most iconic and well known songs in the footballing world, and its Arsenal’s, unlike Walk on, which you share with Glasgow Celtic. Also, on a side note, you may have reached the lofty hights of Champians League success, and as an Arsenal fan I envy your club for that, but Liverpools seemingly endless drive towards mid table… Read more »
Just hope liverpool realise Giroud is the better striker: give us suarez and another £10M on top for Ollie. Anything can happen they are liverpool you know.
Its a pity this window has turned out this way 4 arsenal when it could’ve been avaoided. Whoever is in charge of signings + Wenger are SHITS @ what they do and who says we can’t sign players 4 other positions while we sort the striker thing out. Less than 3 weeks to the new season and we’ve not bought a single player. Arsenal is a joke
Watch Liverpool take 4th next year from you…hahahah..that would be genius! Sustainable crap
You want to take 4th from us but you can’t even get past Everton. Walk before you learn how to run little boy.
heh
“Sustainable” finished 12 points above you last season. What does that make your “waste money on shit players” business model, then?
Oh what a load of shite you talk! Cant think straight eh? Not that i am surprised about a scouser’s state of mind. Loserfools!
Don’t you know better than to feed the hubcap traders?
Get back under that bridge you fiend!
I sincerely doubt that idiot could even locate Liverpool on a map. Their hangers-on are almost as bad as the parasites who follow ‘Manchester’ United.
Do we have to keep on mentioning Higuain? He’s gone. He moved to Napoli. They offered more money and RM were shady with us. I’m seriosly worried that the whole of next season is going to be ‘ohhh, if we had higuain we’d have won that game’ He’s gone, lets move on and get someone alot better. all in all, i think we’ve done pretty well getting rid of a shit load of dead wood which frees up money to invest in the squad. We’ve got 3 spaces in the squad: striker, DM, CB. I have the faith that we… Read more »
I admire your optimisim, but that kind of faith is akin to seeing Mother Theresa’s image in a strangely shaped banana.
My frustration is that I actually believed this summer would be different
A definition of insanity is to do the same thing again and again and expect a different outcome! Ffs Norwich are head and shoulders above us in the transfer game, we’re a bunch of clowns
I can’t help but have that fkn Alanis Morrisett song “Ironic” ringing in my ears when I think of this saga.
For a club who are usually so measured, so.. cautious in our approach for targets we really seemed willing to push the boat out on this one… on a target we had no chance of landing… But we finally did it.. we lodged a 40m bid..
We had a fear of flying, we finally got on a plane.. and the fkn thing crashed
I stand by my comments made a month ago, we won’t be signing any big names whatsoever. Arsenal strategy is to bid for a player far below what the selling club are demanding so that later they can tell fans ‘hey, atleast we tried, they didn’t wanna sell’. Ofcourse they won’t sell. Would we have accepted a bid of 10mil for RVP or fabregas? Every clubs wants to milk as much money from selling players as they can, we do it every year but if someone else does it we deem it unfair.