Sunday, November 17, 2024

Wenger: Sagna talks not progressing

Arsene Wenger has confirmed there’s an impasse in negotiations with Bacary Sagna dismissing suggestions the French international is on the cusp of signing a new deal at the club.

A free agent in the summer, the 31-year-old has been able to discuss his future with foreign clubs since January and (understandably) he isn’t short of suitors. 

Last month Inter Milan confirmed they’d contacted Sagna only to hint that the experienced defender had opted to stay in England. Given that a stay at the Emirates doesn’t seem likely that opens up the possibility of him moving to a rival with Manchester City thought to be snooping around. 

“Talks are not progressing,” Wenger told journalists this morning at his pre-Newcastle press conference. “The ball is not in our court any more and he has to come back to us.”

It doesn’t look good from an Arsenal perspective and would leave the boss looking to replace a significant chunk of the defence with Thomas Vermaelen and Lukasz Fabianski also thought to be on the way out this summer.

It also makes a lie of midweek stories which said the right-back was close to agreeing a new deal. As we reported at the time, talks broke down a long time ago, and Arsenal fans are going to have to prepare themselves for his departure unless there’s a massive shift from both parties.

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Jackio

Sob

Gooneron

Snobbed

piya

Not a greek tragedy. He’s 31, has suffered two leg breaks in a year, offers virtually nothing going forward (can’t dribble, limited pace) learnt how to cross this season but we’re hardly a team that relies on crosses nor do we seem to have a striker capable of getting on the end of them. He’s a wonderful stopper – nothing ever seems to get down our left – but surely we can upgrade on him if it comes to that. I’d love to see us get a proper marauding full back a la Zabaleta who can defend but offers a… Read more »

Rocky Rocastle

The problem with him leaving is that we now need to spend Lots of money on a New RB. Money which could have been put towards other important signings. Worst case we might have to target cheaper signings than originally intended because of this. Jenkinson is not good enough to take over first XI role. But i Guess there is allways a chance the boss might give Jenkinson a chance to claim a place in the first XI. Who knows, he might blossom and prove himself capable. My Guess is Rodgers is interested in Sagna to strenghten his awfull defense.… Read more »

Mick

I also worry we will spend too much time trying to replace Bac, time that could be used focusing on other areas of need. Perhaps, all said, the time is more scarce to us than the money. You would think with a team of scouts and executives and negotiators and coaches, there would be plenty of time to get all the necessary deals done, however it has struck me that in the last few years we have really struggled to sort out more than one deal at a time (at least it seems that way on the surface!) Plus, I… Read more »

Gutbukket Deffrolla

Nobody gets any time in a World Cup year. We’re going to have a nervous summer.

Next year is definately the year....

I would agree with some of what your saying. With our narrow midfield and fullbacks pushed on he does end up seeing A LOT of the ball. I’d also question a few times this season sagna marauding forward when we’re getting hammered, but that could be managers instructions. A right back better on the ball would probably be a major bonus for us. But there ain’t many dani alves’s and lahm’s out there. Defensively Sagna is top notch, great backs to the wall defender and something is seriously wrong with our club to be in this situation, again, with a… Read more »

Gutbukket Deffrolla

He’s 31 and he has a mind of his own. If he has decided to leave it doesn’t follow that there is anything wrong with our club.

Az Ahmed

Here’s a thumbs down comment if there ever was one: Even as an Arsenal fan, I appreciate the genius of Mourinho. He is amazing at masterminding tactical victories against the big teams. He knew exactly what he needed to do to stifle and choke the Liverpool front line. Look at it like this, the only time the fairy (Sterling) got in behind the defence was after 80 minutes. If you are going to say that anyone could have seen that you have to defend deep against Liverpool to stop them from scoring and try to snatch the goal. But there… Read more »

glory Hunter

Just win the FA cup Bac and we’ll wish you all the best wherever you decide to go 🙁

Joe

Unless it’s man city, man utd, sp*rs or stoke

Bould's Eyeliner

that pretty much leaves liverpool or chelsea…. so erm.. yeah neither of those either. And I’m going to guess Stoke was a joke.

Why is my name required

i suspect its going to be liverpool, since they are in the champions league next season.

Another one of our ‘better’ players going to a rival. On a free. Shake my head. What’s Wenger thinking? How can he let so many of our key players leave? If its about money, surely thats not a problem?

This has to stop or Arsenal won’t progress. If we keep losing our key players every season we won’t be a big club anymore, no one will want to come to a club that has no ambition

non flying dutchman

C’mon he isn’t one of arsenals ‘better’ players. His our best right back no doubt, but I’d say the weakest link of what is (most of the time) a strong back four.

We should have it in our capacity to get someone better then him, something less easy to do then for Kos for instance.
Were he to go, than I will join you in anger that the trend of the last decade has not been broken.

AriseSirBacary

Or Liverpool

Serge

Welcome to PSG…

0o2Be

I honestly don’t understand why he would go to another Prem. club if it wasn’t for the money? Not that I would blame him for cashing in on his last few years as a player, but it surely can’t be for any other consideration (i.e. CL, winning a trophy) as we’re still in contention for the FA Cup and 4th this year. Either way, he’s been solid over the years so all the best to him.

Gutbukket Deffrolla

How about moving to Liverpool, who are almost certain to be Champions this year, will be willing to pay him well as they are desperately in need of a stroinger defence, and who have a history of doing very well in the Champions League? You can’t understand that? In a 31 year old who has seen us nearly do something for years on end, and is hoping for a big payday as he gets towards the end of his career? I can see why it would appeal, and I don’t blame him for grabbing at the chance. What I hope… Read more »

0o2Be

Your point about Liverpool underachieving next year highlights why I can’t see any logic behind a move to Liverpool. I can completely understand a paycheck move but Liverpool won’t pay (much) more than us and I’m quite sure will be out of their depth with European and domestic competition. He would be a regular starter for us next season if he stayed undoubtedly. Either way I think it’s quite clear now that he’s a gonner and we need to look for a replacement.

He isnt coming Bac

He’s been playing for a transfer all season

kafka

well that’s a bit of a compliment, isn’t it? Long as we understand that Bacary might want to leave, as blogs has opined as well.
And on the poster above saying it will be only for the money, has Sagna won the league and the CL with us?

Niall

Real Shame if he ends up at Man City. has been a reliable stalwart.

Unnecessarilystupid

I’m not sure city need him tbh. Zabaleta is a fantastic right back already.

damien joyce

i think dani alves is going to france and barca may look to zabaleta if they cannot get leichtsteiner

master floda

not if the verdict is kept upright and they won’t be allowed to buy any players.

non flying dutchman

No means a given that Zabaleta leaves city for Barca unless his on a Bosman as well.

Anyway what happened to their transfer ban which I keep telling myself is a late punishment for the tapping up of Fabrogas even though I know damn well that is not the case.

Dan Gunn

Zabeleta is 29 as well. Why be a bac-up? Excuse the pun. To be fair Bac has overseen our entire trophyless period. He joined after the 2005 FA Cup and he’s had the same hairstyle for 9 years! Bless him. Couldnt have asked for a more loyal, consistent right bac. I’m still hopeful we can convince him to stay.

Charlie2000

If he doesn’t want to sign, let him go. Wish him well where he goes!

D

He’s one of the players who has “earned” the right to do whatever he wants with his career. He has honoured all his contracts with strong, consistent and dreadlocked defensive work. Good luck to him.

Up4grabs

Personally I don’t wish him well if he goes to a rival (City, Liverpool, Chelsea).

Doesn’t make sense to me but I can see him joining Man Utd. They give huge contracts but he would be making a big mistake.

Jack's Right Foot

He will be sorely missed but I can’t begrudge his desire to have a go elsewhere in his last years. Especially if he brings home the FA cup. That would be a fantastic way to go out.

Bas

A huge part of our attacking play down the right. Please stay Bac ⚽️

Unnecessarilystupid

But… where will Szcz kick the ball in future?

Özil's Eyes on Arsene's Hot Thighs

Good’un

Javis

He deserves to sign off with a trophy. It will be hard to see him go to another English, I’m hoping something dramatic happens though

Bas

He cannot go to spurs.

Andy Mack

He wouldn’t drop his standards that low!

DialSquare

Letting contracts run down to final year is shocking mismanagement from the club. It’s clear that even at the age of 31, he is one of the best right backs and more than a decent cover at cb. Should’ve tied him down when the ball was in our court.

dominic

Not sure forcing him into bondage would have made much difference…

SJ1986

To be fair, we haven’t done badly with our other contract negotiations. Majority of the important players are tied down. I don’t think Bacary was ever going to stay, unless we offered huge money. It takes two to tango. How much effort the club has actually made is very difficult to say….

kafka

can’t compete with the sign on bonus on free transfers. His agent will get him a chunk of the transfer fee which the club signing him won’t have to pay.
What a tough, consistent player. Great fight and attitude.

fluent_in_gooner

The Club cant do anything if Bac himself doesn’t want to sign. Its a football club not a prison. ill be very sad to see him go but if we aren’t offering what he wants then like anyone in any job (possibly not yours) he is going to look somewhere else for it.

Andy Mack

DialSquare, “Should’ve tied him down when the ball was in our court”.
If only life was that simple!

Mooo

I love Bac, but he is far from irreplaceable.

Gunner90

Seems like another Lasagna-gate…

Edu's Braces

Please leave the country, I would hate to see Bac in another english shirt. Him especially, nasri & clichy didnt bother me but our warrior, noooooooooooo

Edu's Braces

Also I love him but finding a better RB is hardly inconceivable

Gooneron

One man can…… Wenger.

Nick

But what about Sagn…oh wait.

Nasr

Shocking mismangaement? Really? To sign a new contract both parties have to be willing. If bac wants to move on…there’s nothing arsenal can do especially If his reason is financial…wish him the best where ever he goes. Please Wenger get someone who can deliver a cross!!

non flying dutchman

Agreed. I think the only thing Arsenal could have done differently is sell him last year, and as with Fabianski, that was not in our interest to do. Both have been pivotal this year, and both could probably do a job next year, but esp in Sagnas case not so msure about thereafter. Fab meanwhile is In with a good ahot i imagine of becoming Leicesters, first choice with Scmhical likely to be poached. We did allow Bosmans to take place between 1998 and 2004, sometimes its just the lay of the land and not the sign of a badly… Read more »

matt

Just get us the cup and 4th Bac.
Sagna out, Micah Richards in, I reckon.
Walcott promoted to up-front. Another couple of free-singings on top.
And we’ll be set for next season with our war chest intact.

rossi88

Well wenger has known for longer than anyone whether he would sign or not. Hopefully he has someone up his sleeve. Hopefully it’s Seamus Coleman who’s been brilliant the last 2 years. If we CL hopefully he would come

Hereford Gooner

Coleman would be an unbelievable addition – but I am not convinced AW would spend £30M+ on a right back. Personally if Coleman was available then I’d be happy to see him spend £30M on him, even if this meant less money to spend on a striker – he is that good. I could see him being able to fill in for theo in a more attacking role on the right – and even a right back he stretches the game and keeps bombing up and down the field for 90 minutes. He would be perfect for us but I’d… Read more »

Desert Fox

There is no way Wenger would spend that sort of money on him. He cost 60k from Sligo Rovers! Wenger couldnt stand the thought of giving another club such a huge profit.

But I do agree that he is a great player. Could only see the move taking place if we do a deal with them where we pay cash plus loan them a player next year or something.

rossi88

#hopehully lmao. Such a dick

VCC

There is no shame in going to Man City. All players want to win and achieve something in their career. Let’s be real he clearly thinks Arsenal cannot challenge for the league title and CL which is why he wants to move on.

DC

It would be a shame if he leaves, but I think this will come down to a final payday and City can outspend us each and every day – regardless of our war chest! There are very few players that will put loyalty in front of a larger (or in this case, very large) pay cheque!!

Andy Mack

I’m quite sure that Sagna can see we’re close to winning silverware again and it’s pretty certain he’s looking at his long-term options financially.
I think we should bent the rules a bit to keep such a good player but without knowing what he (and his agent) really want, I just don’t know how realistic he’s being. It could turn out that he wants to be the best paid player in the team for the next ten years and for the club to sacrifice a reserve team player on each solstice!!!!

Hereford Gooner

There is shame in going to Man City – why else would they need to be the highest salary paying club in world sport? They have shamelessly bought their way to a title and a couple of cups. No one respects their achievements just like no one respected Chelsea’s success when Abramovic arrived. People will respect Liverpool for winning the league because they have done it in a sustainable manner. City have bullied their way in and adopted the same shameful business methods as other multi-million pound corporations. When a poorer challenger takes some of their market share they flex… Read more »

Hereford Gooner

Not one day after saying this Nasri is still at it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10788594/Samir-Nasri-I-wanted-to-make-history-at-Manchester-City-in-my-first-year-I-won-the-league.html “This image of me being ‘materialistic’ is a French thing. People were envious. It’s fine. What happened is this: it was my best season with Arsenal (15 goals). We were in October (2010) and the manager asked me whether I wanted to stay at Arsenal. ‘Yes I want to stay at Arsenal,’ I said. Then they offered me a contract. It was far from what I wanted. With my agent, we were saying: if I stay at Arsenal, I know I’m going to win less money, but it’s… Read more »

raozila

Goodluck to him if and when he goes, you cant force him to stay. It seems more money is better to have than play for this great club.

voldermort

With sagna now seemingly going and the possible exits of fabianski and the captain and the fact that we need a striker and possibly a real strong defensive midfielder the summer looks worrying. I just don’t trust the club to get the number of players we need at the quality required to compete for the title going on its passed transfer shambles. That’s without the possibility of losing losing one or two others like podolski. We missed a really great chance this season to win the title due to our inability to close a deal on a badly needed quality… Read more »

0o2Be

It’s definitely not a great prospect – I hadn’t previously considered the WC as a factor in signing players but now you mention it it could certainly have a bearing on quality/quantity of signings. I don’t think we necessarily need the very best in all positions but the list is large and on previous merit, I’m worried about the ability of the club to get the job done. But all we can do is have faith I suppose. This squad is so close to being something special it would be a real real shame to let it go to waste.

Henners

:((((((((

That Genius Bergkamp

I’ve reconciled that Sagna is leaving but I really would like to see the boss leave as well. The season has been extremely mishandled and we keep coming up with excuses for how he’s cocked up this time. Arsenal needs change.

2014-2015 = 2003-2004

Damn that Goal.com website! Yesterday it claimed Sagna was ‘on the verge’ of extending with us and I believed it.

If it ain’t on Arsenal’s official website or its alternative one (this one), don’t believe it.

Black Hei

To be fair, Goal.com gambled successfully on the Walcott extension. This time round, I think they screwed as with the M’Villa thingy

Arsene Wenger's Penguin Suit

Goal.com gamble on everything and if you even read their articles you are a numpty.

Al Gilmore

Have to disagree with Dial Square. Every time we let a player near the end of a contract (RVP + Sagna) we are told it is shocking mismanagement and then every time we tie a player to a long term contract who then suffers injury (e.g.Diaby) we are told ‘what a waste of money’. Hindsight is a very exact science. If you remember Sagna’s form last year, after returning from the second leg break of his career, and with PSG rumours abounding, he was a shadow of the player we know he is – he already looked finished with us.… Read more »

embacee

As reliable and consistent Sangna is, he is very much replaceable. They’re much younger RB’s who can do the job, if not better. Of course he is welcome to stay as he brings experience to the pack, but if he choses to leave i’l give him my best wishes for his loyalty. COYG

SB

Hope we win the FA Cup, for reasons amongst others, he has been with us through troubled times to finally win something. His extension was always going to be unlikely because despite his commitment to our club all these years, he will be looking for a bumper contract – not necessarily in weekly wages but more likely the length of contract at a higher wage, even when his powers are in decline. It’s very much like when Henry went to Barca on a long contract but never was going to have the same va va vroom in his legs for… Read more »

Shubham

Hope he picks up the FA Cup medal. Solid professional who never cribbed. I wish him well.

Bacon

It’s looking like he will be leaving us, which is a shame because he’s been absolutely brilliant. However, if he’s really after 100k a week for 3 years + a hefty signing on fee then I really think that we would be better off investing that sort of spending into another RB that can be there for the next 5+ years.

Injured Gooner South Africa

That means our wings are completely fucked. On the left we are uncertain of Podolski, and on the right we are loosing Sagna. Walli coming back is still an issue, we are not even sure where we are going to play Cambelle when he comes back from Olympiacos, or even if we are going to keep him. Both Gibbsi and Nacho have been rather injury prone as well. I see people praying for a World Class striker, and a DM but WOW, does this squad need refreshing. Are we going to start striking it lucky or what’s the deal? W… Read more »

spurs are still shite

I have to say, JT is a cunt… That said, I dont see why some pards blame management… No one can force Bac to sign, this isnt an Italian Mafia outfit where we hold a gun to his head and say ‘sign da tin son, or visit your grandpapi and say me well to him’

Indiegooner

Man city dont need him that badly and they might not want to offer a big contract thsi summer.
I am quite worried about the prospect of him joining Liverpool. They need improvement in defense, will surely finish above us this season and might attract him. The narrative would be that with one season of finishing above us they are able to attract away our best players. We wont have the money excuse to give and it could be slap on the face.

Andy Mack

Staying in the PL was mentioned by the ‘Mail’ so don’t take it as the truth.
He’s more likely to sign a 5 year deal at Monaco/PSG/Inter/Galatasary than stay here.

Momo (@MuhamLAD)

Galatasaray already have the best right back since Cafu in Eboue

Black Hei

If he doesn’t want to stay, he can go. No biggie. It is not as if we are not extending him an extension.

I hope he wins the FA Cup, gets all sentimental, and sign the extension on the spot.

Goon

He has honored his contract and that in itself is a sign of respect for the club. We should respect his move.

heihaci

good luck to him. Always gave his best for the club!

CLEgooner

They will all break your heart. Every one.

Citeh.

Chris

Love the Bac-Man. But, if you were a footballer who didn’t really support a team, wouldn’t you take the opportunity to try out a different country and lifestyle at this point in your playing career? Never understand British players who are frightened to experience other cultures and footballing environments, it’s a short career, live it to the maximum. If Bac goes to somewhere like Milan you can’t fault him at all.

Mind you, if he goes to Manchester then he’ll destroy his legacy.

sam

A lot of people think Seamus Coleman will be a good replacement. I really like him too, but I wonder if he’s the right person. 1) Like someone mentioned, Sagna is always our first choice target for goal kicks. And that is immensely important since we don’t have anyone like Vieira/Gilberto/Toure in the midfield to win the first balls. Seamus Coleman had 22 aerial duels this season, and he won 50%. Sagna had a staggering 157 aerial duals, and he won 67% of it. Unless we get someone else in midfield in the summer, we still need a right back… Read more »

Hereford Gooner

These are good points but the effect Coleman would have on the opposition psychology would outweigh the aerial duels he would not win. The opposition full back would not want to be exposed by the pace we’d have down the right hand side and that would change the face of the game. Winning aerial battles is good but it does not change the face of the game. As far as I am aware Everton and not losing goals from Coleman’s aerial prowess being exposed. What they are doing is exposing other teams (like us) with terrifying pace and the ability… Read more »

Hereford Gooner

After seeing the own goal coleman just scored with his head against sounthampton, can I retract this statement?!

WilshereIsMyFavouritePlayer

Sagna dont go please…. Dint flamini tell u “YOU HAVE A UNFINISHED BUSINESS”….Premeir league medal:(:(:(

Roitenak

If it was down to me, I’d do everything to make him stay. He’s a true servant of the club, and has always given his best.

RB might be a very demanding position for someone this old but he’s still very consistent and I can see him converting to a CB position with his experience and excellent aerial abilities.

That would give us the kind of stability that went missing in the squad recently.

non flying dutchman

True servants of the club sign da ting… A LA Rosicky

Mach iii

NOOOOOO!!!!!

Please sign SAGNA!!!

Arsene Wenger's Penguin Suit

If he goes to Man City he’s a gigantic cunt. Just sayin’. He’s dead to me if he does.

realseriousgooner

Well we know it won’t be spuds or ManUre. Depsite his hairstyle selection, the man is not an idiot.

non flying dutchman

To be honest if he went for spuds then I would rather think we were getting the better end of the deal if we then took Kyle Walker

realseriousgooner

oh, and those Orcs from Stoke. wont be them either

alex

Shame, Bac has a chance to be a real Arsenal guy with a new contract. A guy who’d be thought of as a real great of the club. But it’s looking like just be another who contributed and left.

I do hope that people don’t lump him in with the likes of Nasri and Clichy, though – unlike the others Sagna has at least played out his prime years at Arsenal and that counts for something. But it would be nice if he stayed a little longer.

Du'aine

It’s a tricky situation because with Sagna the age he is, it would’ve timed perfectly to develop Jenkinson and Hector for a few years until they’re ready to be first team regulars. Now, if Sagna leaves we surely have to look to someone who is a similar age, i.e a more experienced and possibly costly right back. I can’t see much point in signing a younger right back because of Jenkinson, Hector Bellerin and Julio Pleguezuelo who, i think anyway, will become a right sided defender. A new defender such as Sebastian Jung, who has been mentioned, is at an… Read more »

non flying dutchman

ignazio Abate? Been rumoured for a while.

Freduardo

Serge Aurier in the summer maybe?

Puns are such a clichy

Pretty sure the club want him to stay but they aren’t going to hand out a longish contract on big money to a 31 yr old full back. Wing based players get past their best much more quickly than central players simply due to the nature of the position. Look at Evra.

According to the laws of Quantum Mechanics, WENGA can be OUT & IN at the same time. So please STOP FIGHTING

This issue begst the question: who will take all our throw ins from now on?

That is a bloody good point!

Injured Gooner South Africa

Looks like our whole right wing is going to have a make over. Walli is going to sit out more than just the WC. He’s also going to miss quite a bit of the pre season. Loosing Sagna is a big deal. Lets hope and pray Cambelle and the new guy get’s that partnership sorted early and quickly. This makes me rather nervous.

WengersNoseHair

Noooooooooooooo………………..don’t gooooooooooooooooooo…………………………………………..Luduvine!

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