Another Champions League exit at the hands of Bayern Munich. Awful. Horrible. The absolute pits. Not only that Harry Kane was wearing Skechers, which as we all know are the dolphins of shoes.
Here’s what the players, managers, stattos and pundits made of Arsenal’s 1-0 defeat to Bayern Munich…
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Mikel Arteta on losing the tie…
At the moment it is a gutted dressing room. We are very disappointed. We have to go through it. We tried against a team with a lot of experience. Through the tie the margins have been very small. There were moments that we were better, we gave them two goals – that is a big advantage to give away. Today you could see that it was a zero margin of error. We made a mistake defensively in the box, a big one, and we give away the goal. Now is the moment to stick with the players, because they need our support. They are the ones that have taken us on this journey.
Source: TNT Sports
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Thomas Tuchel on a tight game…
The first half was a bit of a chess game. Who makes the first mistake? Who makes the first move? The second half was very strong. We showed a little more courage and then deserved to win.
Source: Spox.com
Bayern Munich 1-0 Arsenal FT (3-2 agg.)
Bayern are the second German side to reach the #UCL semi-finals. Still waiting on that first English or Spanish participant…#FCBARS pic.twitter.com/2cg7m1B0sE
— Opta Analyst (@OptaAnalyst) April 17, 2024
Joshua Kimmich on the match…
Both teams were very nervous in the first half, neither wanted to take the final risk. Arsenal wanted to control the game, but were afraid of our counterattacks. We played with more determination after the break and. accordingly, we deserved to advance.
Source: Spox.com
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Declan Rice on Arsenal’s performance and the pain of defeat…
We played with confidence, but were just lacking that cutting edge. But again, it comes down to the boxes and we conceded a goal which is unlike us, and to now go out with a header like that in a game that didn’t really have much in it, that’s the most disappointing thing to be honest. I’m hurting. I came into this game full of hunger, desire and passion. I wanted to just get over the line for this club and so did all the players as well. You could see it in everyone, everyone was so hungry together.
Source: Arsenal.com
Arsenal knocking Spurs out of next season’s CL by losing to Kane and Dier is confusing
— Duncan Alexander (@oilysailor) April 17, 2024
Jorginho on the paying the price for a lapse in concentration…
Definitely a tough one. But in this competition, when you switch off just a little bit, you pay the price. And unfortunately, we didn’t go through. We need to put our heads up because we have still a lot to play. And of course, to swallow it, it will take a few days, but we need to go again. That’s how it is. And we move forward. I think we could have defended better, of course. When it’s a tight game in this competition you switch off for one second it’s a goal.
Source: TNT Sports
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Arteta on whether the game was too much for an inexperienced side…
We haven’t played in the competition for seven years; we haven’t been in this position for 14 years. There’s a reason for it, and we want to do everything. Fast forward, super quick in one season and after we had the capacity and the quality to be in the semi-final, because the margins have been very small. But those margins sometimes are coming from something else, that maybe we don’t have yet. We have to learn it, when you look historically, all the clubs to get to certain stages, it took them seven, eight, some of them 10 years to do it. Today that is not going to make us feel better, that’s for sure.
Source: Post-game press conference
5 – Arsenal have been eliminated from the UEFA Champions League knockout stage by Bayern Munich for a fifth time; only Real Madrid (6 v Bayern) have eliminated a single opponent more times in knockout ties in the competition. Hurdle. pic.twitter.com/vKxbjSi0eZ
— OptaJoe (@OptaJoe) April 17, 2024
Jamal Musiala on Bayern’s win…
It’s a great feeling. We as a club haven’t been in a semi-final in a while, so it’s a good feeling. Arsenal is a very good opponent, we’ve seen them in the Premier League and how well they’ve played throughout the season, they are tough to beat so to get the win and advance to the next round is good for all of us.
Source: CBS Sports
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Arteta on what’s missing from his side…
The reality is we don’t have a striker who is going to score us 35 or 40 goals. We have to live with that. We have many other qualities. Today is a day to stick behind the players because they have given us so much, they’ve given us this journey.
Source: CBS Sports
On aggregate:
Bayern (3.69) 3-2 (1.95) Arsenal
— The xG Philosophy (@xGPhilosophy) April 17, 2024
Thierry Henry on what Arsenal were missing…
Putting the ball in the back of the net. Today there wasn’t many chances to do that.
Source: CBS Sports
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Owen Hargreaves on where Arsenal lost the game….
I think this Arsenal team is in a brilliant position. There is no shame in losing to Bayern Munich but even at the end of the game it feels like they need a different option – a bigger centre forward you can put in the box and maybe even nick a goal. It doesn’t have to be pretty. Today we didn’t see the best of Arsenal and I think that will be the only disappointing thing because they are so close. They need to take that final step. We have seen it with PSG – it is really hard in the Champions League – but they are getting close. They just need to do something in the summer just to add to that.
Source: TNT Sports
New! Arteta: I’m proud of the players, but we didn’t have enough https://t.co/9ea7Xd9j2G #afc #arsenal pic.twitter.com/4egJfsk4vQ
— arseblognews (@arseblognews) April 17, 2024
“but were just lacking that cutting edge” – Rice.
“The reality is we don’t have a striker who is going to score us 35 or 40 goals.” – Arteta.
Pretty “striking” comments right there…
When we need someone to step forward and take that half chance, we just haven’t had it.
Haaland struck out, too!
That makes you feel satisfied with our performance?
Not happy we lost, but I have the season and this team in perspective.
Season is ending with in typical fashion though. When the pressure ramps up, our substance disappears…again. Can’t blame it one Saliba’s injury this season. Barring the very slim chance of the inevitable not happening, we haven’t improved. And concerningly it seems we might actually have less depth than last season (defense is the exception): trust in Vieira, ESR, Nketiah, Partey, Mo (… and anyone else) is essentially gone. It looks like it will be trophy free again (City are too clinical to drop more than 2 pts at most, and their run is WAY easier than ours). A top, top… Read more »
We will win the Premier League next season comfortably, and we’ll go to the semis or finals of the CL. I never expected us to win either this season, though of course I am disappointed like the rest. But to say we haven’t improved is nearsighted at best; the very fact that fans are so gutted by the last week proves that we believe we can win the biggest prizes in the game. Any suggestion that Arteta and the players aren’t cut out for this is to ignore what they did this season, which is compete for another title at… Read more »
Well said
You are in a dream land! funny man
To be honest, I am not sure there can be too many complaints about not knocking out Bayern Munich at home in a Champions League quarter final, when our top goal scorer in the league is a 22 year old academy product with 14 goals, and then our next best is 9 goals. These huge matches always expose what and where you shortcomings are.. and we all know. So its down to the recruitment guys in the summer, if we can get someone in who has a proven track record of scoring goals I genuinely think it turns us into… Read more »
We didn’t lose this game with not having a super paced Giroud like player up front, our line up was good it was basically our attacking wingers not producing on the night, it happens… unfortunately for us Bayern were there for the taking, we are not far from success..
Not sure I are with that, the Champions League is the cutting edge of the game. You need to have players with real pedigree to be able to mix it in that competition. You cant be expecting an academy product at the age of 22 to do it for you. Maybe in 3 or so years, I’d put that sort of expectation on Saka. But not now.. he’s way too raw. Fundamentally, think how much Money Pep has had to spend to win a UCL? You’re talking billions, Klopp the same. Did we have a chance? I mean a puncher… Read more »
I don’t believe or is pressure, I just think they are knackered. The reality is to beat a team like Man City you need huge squad depth of quality players which we don’t have yet. It takes time to build that up. Everything in the last couple of years suggests that is what we are doing. It took saint Pep what 6/7 years to win the CL with Man City after all!
In fairness to Haaland, he did win the treble last year…
Buy a striker and play Jesus at RW so Saka can have a breather once in a while.
We need a top level midfielder just as much. Partey is toast and Mikel doesn’t trust him. ESR looks done at Arsenal.
Can we / Are we going to spend £150M plus needed to upgrade those two positions? We can’t compete consistently and long enough with this razor thin squad to win trophies. If we can’t then it’s rinse and repeat.
We spent that last summer on quality upgrades so no reason to think we won’t do it again
There’s areas in the squad to improve, no doubt. But to call the squad ‘razor thin’ is ludicrous hyperbole. It just isn’t true. We’ve dealt with significant injuries all season very well.
What are the significant injuries? We’ve actually had an incredible season in terms of injuries. Liverpool have had WAY WAY more injuries. The only part of the squad I consider to have good depth is defense and that is the only area of the squad we’ve really had injury issues (which our depth covered) – but our three main defenders have played every game (as is expected at this level). Midfield, Partey has been crocked since he arrived and that’s it for injuries. Forwards we’ve had a couple niggles here and there, but nothing more. Our midfield and forward line… Read more »
100% agree. And im not slagging Saka off…I’m a huge fan. I just think he’s being played into the ground. I think he’s a generational talent who shouldn’t be asked to carry a team on his back for 3 straight years.
The Arteta quote about Arsenal needing a striker is taken out of context.
In the postgame, Peter Schmeichel asks him “What is missing because you haven’t scored in the last two games… is it the lack of a proper striker?”
To which he replies, “No, I don’t think so, because we’re the team that has scored the most goals in the Premier League. From everywhere. The reality is we don’t have a striker that will score 30-40 goals.”
He’s much more committing to our approach of spreading the goals than advocating the team buy a marquee striker.
(interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcAb90kMzjk)
I think it’s pretty clear he’d very much be for buying a top striker if one becomes available, but they don’t grow on trees those guys do they. And I think he also thinks, and we’ve shown that to be true, that we can also score a ton of goals without one, and the fact we didn’t is down to other reasons that can and should be addressed too – lack of squad depth, fatigue etc. I guess what some people are arguing is that if a top striker isn’t available for us to buy this summer, we should buy… Read more »
Can you give me an example of a goal-sharing team that has been consistently successful at the top level in the history of football? A team that doesn’t have a top striker, I mean.
Man City pre-Haaland is the most recent one i think. Barca also had that period when Cesc was there playing as a false 9 and they still won trophies. As I mentioned, a top striker makes titles more probable and should definitely be at the top of our shopping list, which is why both of those teams got one in the end. But there are also other things we could and should do to improve our goalscoring output and those shouldn’t be neglected, whether or not we manage to get that striker.
I was thinking about this last night and City and Barca came to mind for me too. I think goals by committee is more sustainable long term. There’s not so much pressure on a few players to hit big numbers. In our case though if 2-3 of our goal scorers have a dip then all of a sudden we don’t look like scoring. The reality now is that City do both. When Haalands going well they can lean on his goals. When he’s not there’s plenty of players capable of chipping in. It always comes back to depth and quality… Read more »
Exactly, ideal situation is to have both a top striker as well as 2-3 other attackers contributing 40-50 goals between them, leaves you more margin for error and less load on one or two people’s shoulders. Like what Barca had when they won the trebles with Eto, Messi, Henry and Xavi, and again even more so with Messi, Suarez and Neymar which was just absurd. Before this season I felt like our trio of Saka, Ode and Martinelli were all on enough of an upwards curve to suggest they could get close to that, but they all sort of plateaued… Read more »
They all plateaued from being overplayed or recovering from injuries. We need cover in a lot of positions which I don’t see us resolving in the off season. Another pacey winger would be top of my list.
For City, a certain Argentinian named Kun Aguero terrorized so many defences and scored so many important goals. Also, Barcelona had David Villa. Perhaps Liverpool (and I am not sure) if you consider Salah as just a winger and Firmino corresponding to Jesus.
I meant the 2-3 years after Aguero and before Haaland. And Barcelona had Villa only about half of the time Cesc was there, the year they won the title together Villa only started about half the games and only scored 10 goals in the league
City is a decent example – I was surprised when Guardiola marginalized Aguero and still won consistently in the PL.
But – far more relevant to yesterday – they didn’t win the Champions League without Haaland (12 goals in the tournament, top scorer). Guardiola’s three CL titles at Barcelona were all won in years Messi top scored (9, 12, 10 goals).
You have to have production from everywhere, but unless you have a centre forward who puts the fear in people, the ceiling is always going to be “pretty damn good but…”.
Yes, like Senderos vs Drogba. Our guy starts sweating from home and in his car driving to the Emirates, the day he knows he will be facing Drogba.
With the experience of this year and last in the league and the Champions league we will be better served next season. We NEED a top striker, someone like an Osimhen or even Vlahovic and we will be right up there with the very best. When Arteta first joined we were a total shambles, the fact that we are where we are is a huge positive. A lot of people expected us to beat Bayern, that says a lot about the progress we have made. I remember years ago Gazedis said we would be up there and challenging with the… Read more »
Manchester City also unable to “take that next step” this season in the CL. No shame in this loss. We move on.
They lost to close penalties…
And Barca got spanked from a winning position. What’s your point?
Regrettable? Yes. Ashamed? No.
Their penalties were terrible
What is the next step if you have won it last year?
To win it again, obviously.
Gutting to go out in a tie that I feel we definitely had the quality to win. Especially after gifting them two goals in the first leg.
That said, Bayern are a really good team, so there is no shame in losing to them and the fact it was so tight shows the progress the team has made as a whole. Last time we played them we lost 10-2 on aggregate!
We still have plenty to play for with the league, so we need to pick ourselves up and get back to winning ways this weekend.
This Bayern team just aren’t that good, and they had to make do without three of their best players (Davies, Gnabry, Coman). They are way off the pace in the league, just look at this game. They know their own failings that well they literally sat off at home and tried to hit us on the break and with direct play. We should have smacked them, but the players didn’t step up, particularly the forwards in this game (after doing the same in another crucial game against Villa). Tried? That’s a weak excuse. Any team competing at this level at… Read more »
I think that’s harsh, for all Bayerns struggles they still have so much talent. Although I do think we made some players look better than they are. We made Laimer look world class. I also think their defense outplayed their ability in the 2 games. Their weakness has been at the back and we couldn’t take advantage, we looked dangerous a lot without ever really threatening.
We looked dangerous at home. We barely mustered anything last night. That was a very disappointing performance. Some half chances sure, but that is the problem, in the big moments we never seem capable of taking those half chances, but we always have excuses for not taking them.
Bayern had Neuer, Goretzka, Kimmich, Musiala, Sane, Kane, de Ligt. Their make-shift left back regularly plays that position for Morocco, and he is pretty good at it. The narrative about how bad they are is nonsense. It’s like saying Liverpool were crap in the years they lost the league to City. We are roughly on their level, and it’s been a decade and a half since we could say that.
Neuer is an all time great goalie. I’d love Goretzka on this team. Musiala looks a good talent. The rest? Meh (and certainly fk Kane!). Sane runs a lot but hasn’t scored since October. Kimmich and de Ligt? They wouldn’t start at Arsenal… I didn’t say “how bad they are”, they are a “good (not great by any stretch)” team, but they are undoubtedly the worst Bayern team in over a decade and we let them bully us. That’s weak. And all the talk here is “aww, we’re so tired”. Nonsense, Bayern are just as tired (and they have arguably… Read more »
“Musiala looks a good talent.” Glad you picked up on that. “The rest? Meh (and certainly fk Kane!).” Well, I don’t like him either, but I have eyes and I see one of the best centre forwards in the world. “That’s what separates the best from the rest – stepping up when it matters.” Which, I guess, must mean that we don’t have too much to worry about from City, or from Liverpool. City couldn’t step up *at home* against a Madrid team with no Ronaldo or Bale or Benzema, without Tchouaméni, and without Courtois–who still beat them on penalties… Read more »
And what statistics are you referring to for Bayern? The 17 more goals than Leverkuesen they’ve conceded (in a weak league outside the top 5 or so clubs – and I’ve lived there recently, it is not close to EPL level). Not sure how you can argue this Bayern team is close to any team they’ve put up in the last decade at least. And again, fuck Kane. We lost because we gave up soft goals at home (and were not tactically prepared for their counter attacking style) and we were overawed away and basically gave up once Bayern scored… Read more »
Did we stay in FA cup and Carabao this season? We miss the ability to play for trophies.
The season is unravelling at the same time it did last season.
You cannot claim player fatigue – that is not an excuse as these are professional athletes.
You cannot claim player ability or strength of squad as they are top players.
Or even injuries as we have been reasonably lucky this season.
This must be a psychological issue – a self belief of the team or the strength of character to just put that extra little bit of effort and grab these games.
I feel we are very close to being where we want to be.
Me2 think.
“The reality is we don’t have a striker who is going to score us 35 or 40 goals.”
and whose fault is it? you had 2 windows to find someone. instead you gave a new contract to eddie.
same shortcomings as last year and failing at the critical times.
arsenal is back among the top 4. and that’s the trophy.
I think it was a money issue after rice and havertz and timber we couldn’t go in for a forward which meant keeping nketia who is clearly championship level at best. Arteta went on a wing and prayer with Nketia, it didn’t work. If we can get 10/15 million for him in the summer we can put that toward Toney or isak, the missing piece. Been a hell of a Season. Beat wolves and Chelsea and we will be 4 points clear before city play first of two games in hand away at Brighton. Pressure can affect anyone. Come on… Read more »
Just “beat Wolves and Chelsea”… it seemed an easy task just one week ago; now it feels like mission impossible for a team with the handbrake well and truly on.
I hear ya and feel ya. Disappointment is a bitter pill to swallow. I think we blew the opportunity against Bayern with some keystone cop defending and never truly recovered. What hurts me more was the villa game. Have not been able to digest that one fully, it’s stuck in me throat and keeps repeating.
It’s the back to back of the Villa disappointment and then that piss poor showing last night that’s the hardest to swallow. After Villa this team should have come out with a chip on its shoulder with the “prove ’em” mentality, but we came out with a “should we really be here” mentality. This was such a winnable game and tie against a very mediocre Bayern missing key players… We didn’t front. After the goal we rolled over and stuck our legs in the air. It’s that that gives me little to no hope that we can win every game… Read more »
You could well be right and 10pm Saturday night we may have a definitive answer, they don’t believe or we are top of the league with 5 to play and have a chance. More will be revealed
Saturday definitively answers sweet FA. We HAVE to expect to beat Wolves (same as Bournemouth and Everton). But can we really get 9 points from Chelsea at home (and hitting form), Manure away, and S***s at shite heart lame? City will get 16 or 18 pts. Our only chance is to get 18 points ourselves. I’m not holding out hope for that after our capitulation in the last two games, and the lads are very, very, very tired after all…poor fellas…
If we don’t beat Wolves surely Saturday answers definitively we ain’t winning the league no
Fair, that is absolutely correct. I’m trying not to hope right now…the hope keeps crushing me… I’m going to try expecting it’s over and maybe by some miracle being very pleasantly surprised…
Equally, the club could’ve signed Isak, didn’t, then signed Jesus the following summer. Now people are wondering if we could sign Isak as a better option that Jesus, when the only way that would happen is if we offered £100m+.
Could have signed Paqueta and didn’t, so he went to West Ham. Now Man City will probably buy him.
Yep and we could have signed ronaldo and Ibrahimavich. What a pity hey. Cheese and bread lord help us 🙏
But the reason we didn’t sign them is not because we didn’t want to.
Our transfers have been mixed TBF. Ødegaard was a tremendous piece of business and Viera can’t get on the pitch. Rome wasn’t built in a day, we have all our best players under contract and our direction of travel is clear.
“Do I spend £100m on a striker, or renew Nketiah’s contract?” – clearly that’s how the conversation went!
Opinions like that are what got Everton in the shit.
Eddie was renewed June 2022, buy the end of this season, his renewal will work around £10m, so according to your logic, even after 2027, there’s another £75m to spare
I am really grateful for the job Edu and Arteta are doing. I know these disappointments will turn into celebrations soon, as Owen said, we are going to win the PL again within the next few years, it’s just a matter of when. But Edu and Arteta have to be ruthless this summer. Buy a top, top goal scoring striker. Tell Jesus he now plays on the wings (can cover for Saka and Martinelli), sell most of the squad players who the coach think are not good enough, bring in quality squad players and let’s go shut the mouth of… Read more »
Agree entirely. We are still ahead of schedule in the Edu Arteta era.
Alot of lessons would have been learnt last night and our club has the intelligence to do just that. Big summer, which we have to get right.
I’m hurting now, but I’m also excited for our future. We play incredible football and any player of the profile super Mik and Edu would want, also want to join us. Let’s finish this season as strong as possible, probably trophy less but be there to pounce if Citeh do slip. COYG!!!!!!!!
I am not saying he should go, but neither we are ahead of schedule,
the 5 years period ends next season, MA came in december 2019, we’ve got an FA cup and 2 community shields to show for so far.
MA is getting better but remains in UE’s pocket,
Growing up can be a pain. We get up, dust ourselves and keep moving. COYG!!!
The players look exhausted. Arteta is responsible for not rotating his starting 11 enough. There are too many players that he doesn’t seem to trust and because of that they play like they did last night. I’m a huge fan of Smith-Rowe but he’s barely had any game time all season.
This isn’t an anti-Arteta post, but I hope he can reflect on this and improve the squad to the point he’s willing to use it. City have that luxury and that’s why they win things and we don’t, their best 11 isn’t any better than ours.
I agree with you. Artetas style places a lot of physical demands on the players, Ødegaard martinelli saka rice Havertz and the full backs especially. They all look jaded now. He does need to rotate more and he clearly doesn’t trust the back ups enough. He has to either develop them and play them more or move them on.
All Arsenal players should be banned from shooting or heading to the near post rather than the far post. Anyone doing it fined 2 weeks wages and made to rub in Ben whites sun tan oil every morning and comb Artetas hair.
Not sure Arteta’s hair can be combed, it looks too thick.
ben white needs to be docked wages for taking at least a minute to for a throw in.
It would be nice sometimes to see any type of shot, they all seem like they’re holding something back after all the good work of getting to the edge of the box. Seems like they’re all looking for the perfect goal scoring opportunity or perfect pass instead of gambling with a strike. Got to be worth an effort sometimes, you either get a goal, a second chance from a spillage, a corner, a deflection or a handball or something.
Not our best game, still very proud of our team .
Some people need to be a bit kinder on here! They are not footballing robots, they are human beings. It doesn’t matter how much they earn, they looked knackered by the end of the match. Even several Man City players were knackered and asked to come off (it happens to the best teams). We need squad depth like Man City but that takes years to build. You can’t go and buy an entire second squad in one transfer window (well unless you are Chelsea and look how that fucking turned out) There is no shame going out to Bayern, this… Read more »
but the beating from Aston Villa was shameful, and served as a copy for what happened yesterday, it was like watching a car crash in slow motion, I was expecting a reaction after Bayern scored, and hoped against hope that we would do so, but it was just gasping for air,
Im from Sweden and i say we need Isak and he needs us. Both him and us would take the next step in the right direction. Hes young, proven in the pl and suits our style perfect.
He’s top of my list.
From an oil state club he’s surely almost immovable though….. astronomical wages and a 9 figure transfer fee. Would be a hell of a signing but we’ve got to be realistic.
What about another of your fellow countryman, Gyokores?
It took Pep 7 years before he won the big cup with City, and all their cheating, and a wonder striker. Our first time back in the competition after 7 years and we get to the QF, that’s not so bad. I’m proud of the team, we are growing.
If you count the years before Pep, when they had already won the league twice and were regularly top four, it took a lot longer than seven years for them to win the Champions League.
To me last night showed the need to mix our play up a bit Passing movements are excellent & that’s what we are excellent at But ??? We don’t have a player up front who the opposition looks at & thinks “fu**ing hell ! We need that player who goes in where it hurts to score We need someone mtge pretty players can play around feeding off the hold up play And we most certainly need someone who scores scruffy goals & headed goals ! And while we are at it ??? I still haven’t warmed to Raya ! When… Read more »
I haven’t been drinking just shit at typing & checking Soz chaps !!
Jesus is a very good player but will never be a 20+ goal a season striker. I see no reason why he can’t be cover for Saka.
We can play Havertz permanently up top or spend a big sum luring someone like Isak from Newcastle. Young and talented! We still need replacements for Partey and Mo and possibly a proper left back? And of course Rambo may go as well!
We upgraded big last summer, no reason why we won’t do it again this summer. Because we are now title contenders players will be more interested in coming here!
We may well be lacking in some areas and that may be the reason for some ‘failure’ in other competitions but unlike the latter part of the Wenger era where it was a guessing game on whether the team would even turn up, this team did and gave it a go. Not the end of the world.
Rewatched the match. Doesn’t have to be a striker. As a collective, we did well, which is the hallmark of Arteta ball, and there was some absolutely CL night quality plays from Odegaard, Tomiyasu, Saliba, and Jorghino. (Rice, too, but more on that in a moment.) What’s missing from this side is the big game decisiveness of an Alexis Sanchez or Cesc Fabregas. (lol, we need to add all time great players…obviously.) So, yeah, if I were to make one change, I’d say add prime Alexis to this Arsenal side and we beat that Bayern side. Add prime Fabregas (when… Read more »