Sunday, September 8, 2024

Report: West Ham eyeing Nelson deal, player open to move

According to various sources, West Ham are in the driving seat to sign Reiss Nelson who is open to a move to the London Stadium.

It was reported last month that the winger had told Arsenal he wants to assess his options with a view to securing a transfer that leads to regular game time.

Should a suitable offer be forthcoming, the Gunners won’t stand in the way of a player who has been on the books since he was eight.

The Hammers aren’t the only Premier League club showing an interest in the 24-year-old. It’s claimed Crystal Palace view Nelson as a potential successor to Michael Olise who was recently sold to Bayern Munich.

Nelson signed a new deal at Arsenal this time last year just as he was about to become a free agent. While the contract secured the player a tidy pay increase, the outlay will have been worth it if Arsenal receive a decent transfer fee this summer.

It’s claimed the club would do business should someone offer over £15 million.

Earlier this week, the Gunners turned down a low-ball offer from Fulham for Emile Smith Rowe. The Cottagers are expected to step up their interest in the midfielder who, if sold, would, like Nelson, represent pure profit for the Gunners from a PSR standpoint.

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mc1892

If we sold Eddie, Nelson, and ESR for best part of £100m (as they absolutely should be), we could do some amazing squad building this summer. Three players who’ve barely played replaced with top-class squad players/ first team challengers would be a real game changer.

Easier said than done of course, and I’ll be pretty gutted to see ESR go (really thought he was going to be the second coming of Pires at one point), but it’s quite exciting how much this would unlock from a PSR standpoint.

Fatgooner

100 million for those three? Keep away from those funny cigarettes, mate.

Heavenly Chapecoense

Now it looks really ok, but we bought Havertz 60M and were about to give 80M for Mudryk.

Spanish Gooner

How much do you think we’ll get for them? I’d put it optimistically around £60m

  • Nelson £15m
  • ESR £25m
  • Nketiah £15-20m

Everybody who might buy our players knows a) we want to sell them and b) they haven’t played for years, so no they’re not going to offer whatever Chelsea/United pay for a 22 y/o hotshot from the French league on deadline day.

mc1892

We as a fan base are pretty tough on Nketiah (I absolutely include myself in that as I’ve never thought he’s good enough for us), but the fact of the matter is he’s a homegrown, relatively consistent goal scorer in the Prem. Albeit only when he starts games, but none of the lower teams will be splashing cash on anything but a starter. £30m in this market is still a bit of a steal. ESR is homegrown too, and prodigiously talented- at the bare minimum we should aim for £30m. Can’t see us getting any more than £10-15m for Nelson,… Read more »

Tankard Gooner

I can’t see more than 65 mil in revenue from selling those 3. Not feeling optimistic about us getting more than 2 signings this summer thanks to PSR. Calafiori might be 1, hope the other is a striker we can rely on.

Jimbo1

£100m sounds great although £40m each for Eddie and ESR might be a tough ask.

Spanish Gooner

That also represents roughly £280k in salary and my hope is that we take that money and spend the bulk on one high-quality reliable player. I’d much rather move to a City squad-build of 18 interchangeable players who all play 30 games depending on form rather than 22 players with a clear hierarchy of starter and backup where guys like ESR can go rusty.

Savage

ESR has to be worth 40 million in the current market. And with the shortage of strikers on the market, surely Eddie can command a good fee.

Spanish Gooner

I’m sorry, I know we all love ESR but £40m is outrageous. He’s gone a similar length of time without playing as Dele Alli did when he was sold to Everton for £15m, and most people thought Sp*rs robbed them blind in that deal. He’s 24 next week and he’s played less than 6 games’ worth of premier league football in the last 2 years.

Greg in Seattle

I will be thrilled to get 25m. He’s a big question mark and a bit of a flyer. Maybe he’s Cole Palmer mark two, maybe he’s The Jeff.

Richard

That’s of course a best case scenario. We know ESR is capable of becoming a great player if he avoids injuries. Nelson has potential but missed too much football so he’ll only ever be “good”. Nketiah is one of the best poachers around who just doesn’t fit our system and will do wonders for a team that want to play to his strengths. 100m or something close to that is not outrageous considering some of the deals we’ve recently seen.

Nugssy

Personally think the majority of the fee’s for all 3 of sold would be made up of performance, appearance related add ons, the initial fee could be relatively low certainly in esr and Nelson’s case’s.

Daveo

100 millions quid? You’re dreaming in Technicolour. 15M for Reiss would be a job well done. Maybe we can get 30M for ESR. 20M for Eddie. That’s 65M quid, maybe optimistically we can push it to 70M tops. Either way that’s a job well done, big fund balancing and big salary reduction. But that means we MUST have replacements. Even as it stands an established midfielder is absolute must (we probably need another young talent coming in too) – we’re short in midfield, no question. We need a forward/winger of some description if we lose Eddie, Reiss and ESR (and… Read more »

Ebo

I’d be absolutely delighted with 75mil for all three. I think 30, 30 and 15 is around what we should expect, if we manage to get more then a) maybe I have it completely skewed as far as what clubs are willing to pay for English players and b) well done Edu

karl g

If we add Ramsdale into the equation, £100m is easily achievable.

Gervinho is Driving

£15 million? Sold, to the pissed man with the tattoos!

Johnny 4 Hats

Yeah, I think it’s important to remember how much value we put in “premiership ready players”. Arteta has pretty much bought nothing but.

And I know these guys haven’t played 38 game seasons. But they’ve all done it at this level. And there’s value to knowing that.

Snc

Ok to let Eddie and Reiss go, but ESR no. I believe he can be part of the 25 man squad.

Rich

Expensive bench warmer?

Johnno

Why would you want 25 players ? We ain’t playing rugby.

Dr. Gooner

Transfermarkt has ESR at 22 million, Nelson at 15 million, and Eddie at 30 million euros. That’s a little low on ESR but he hasn’t played so I get why. About 75 in registration fees for the three of them seems reasonable. I’d be thrilled if we received meaningful sums for all of those guys. Didn’t think there would be a market for Reiss in particular.

David Hillier's luggage

Feel Reiss potentially has biggest market of the three. Cheaper, has played regularly in Germany and Holland, and has a style of play that can be effective off the bench as much as a starter (was often brought on before Eddie last season). He’s a low risk signing for a lot of Prem side outside of the top 5/6, and affordable enough for top half teams in France, Spain, Germany & Italy to be interested. Agree though, 75m for all three would be good business

Dr. Gooner

To me he looks like the biggest gamble. You buy him from Arsenal for 15 + 100k for 4 years. This is a player who has had good moments but has never put a full top flight season together and has no elite traits. I think a lot of his promise in the academy was based on his quickness but he grew a lot and lost that first step lateral burst as a result (much like Kai). These days he looks to me more like a 9 trying to play on the wings than a true wing player. He doesn’t… Read more »

Spanish Gooner

I don’t think it is low for ESR – it just reflects how anybody without Arsenal-tinted glasses would view him. The history of football is littered with talented guys who never quite made it because of their injury history. He is to us what Ansu Fati is to Barcelona, or looking further back what Goetze or Fekir or Dele Alli turned into after incredibly promising starts to their careers. I’m not saying this to shit on ESR, a player I absolutely love, but just because it will frustrate me no end when I read the comment section after his £22m… Read more »

Dr. Gooner

It’s low for the profile of player he is, not for his actual on pitch production in the past two season. Valuations have to take into account projection of future performance and ESR has shown he is capable of top production, albeit in a limited time frame. Same can be said for KT, Ramsdale and Nketiah to a lesser degree, and they all have age on their side. Olise shows how quickly your value can jump as a top profile player struggling to make an impact with some fitness and continuity in a coherent tactical setup. He went for 50+… Read more »

thw14

Omari Hutchinson’s value is listed on there as 7 million. He was just sold for 23 and a half. Transfermarkt is not the transfer market.

Dr. Gooner

Didn’t say it was… but it’s a uniform system where all the players are evaluated on the same things so it gives you some sense.

I would also say that’s quite an inflated fee, a bit suspicious how quickly it got done. It was like Ipswich never tried to negotiate. I mean who were they bidding against?

thw14

Yeah Hutchinson was a fraud transaction. I agree 75 million pounds is probably good business for the three of them. I just think that ESR is most likely to bring in the biggest share (~35) of that total, for context-specific reasons.

Gervinho is Driving

Rees offers the best chance for a buyer to look back in a couple years and say “that was good business.” Eddie, you know pretty well what he can do. He’s had plenty of Premier League minutes. If he gets a more, you’re not going to see anything that surprises you. If that’s worth 30 million to you, fine, but you’re not paying 30 million and hoping he’s going to improve. ESR is clearly the most talented, but also clearly an injury gamble. The path into the dark woods is obvious with him. Only Rees’s agent can say “give him… Read more »

Dr. Gooner

Yeah like I said about the projection of future contribution is what drives value with a player like this. It’s about how you project his qualities into your system. I haven’t studied Lopetegui enough to understand what he might see in Reiss.

Dr. Gooner

I would say of the three he’s the one we are least sure is actually good.

BillyKrystal

Imagine if we got 67m for those three. If we get lucky Saudi throws us 20m for Partey, although it’s starting to feel like we need him this season and let him go on a free. Getting close to Nico territory.

evilpiggie

One thing no one seems to be considering is the home-grown quotas. Cedric and Elneny are already gone. Ramsdale will probably be sold and Karl Hein go on loan. Assuming they go, as well as the three players being discussed here (Nketiah, Nelson, Smith-Rowe) we will be left with Saka and Martinelli as club-trained players, and White and Rice as association-trained players. That gives us a maximum squad size of 21, 23 if we bring in two association-trained players. The others then are Raya, Timber, Zinchenko, Tomiyasu, Kiwior, Saliba, Gabriel, Partey, Jorginho, Odegaard, Vieira, Trossard, Havertz and Jesus (14 players).… Read more »

Crash Fistfight

Raya and Saliba also count as home-grown, too.

Bobbert

105m, thank you west ham

Ebo

and we’ll throw rice on top!

Not Declan you dimwits, just some white rice.

A different George

So, just a bit of perspective. Augsburg sold Ermedin Demirovic, a Bosnian forward, to Stuttgart for £17.6m. I have no idea if he is any good, but here’s the point: for Stuttgart, who finished second in Germany, ahead of Bayern, this is the most expensive signing in their history.

Dr. Gooner

And they used 100% of funds generated by the sale of last year’s top scorer, Guirassy, to fund it.

Crash Fistfight

But they’re also based in the Bundesliga.

Heavenly Chapecoense

So Guirassy was sold for just £17.6m?

Dr. Gooner

Yep

Cannon and ball and arsen’all

His release clause was triggered by Dortmund

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