Monday, December 23, 2024

Arsenal draw Sutton United in FA Cup fifth round

Arsenal’s reward for hammering Southampton on Saturday evening is a fifth round FA Cup tie away at non-league Sutton United.

Sutton, who beat Championship side Leeds in the last round, are currently 16th in the Vanarama National League…and we’ll be honest, we have know idea how many divisions below the Premier League that is. A fair few!

What else do we know? They play on one of those artificial 3G pitch things. Hmm, could be interesting. And Gander Green Lane, their stadium not too far from Croydon in south London, has a capacity of 5,000.

The tie will take place at some point over the weekend 17-19 February a few days after we get back from our annual Champions League trip to Bayern Munich.

On the plus side, we’ll get at least 12 days off after the FA Cup match to prepare for our match with Liverpool at Anfield. Our league game with Southampton, initially scheduled for 25 February, has been postponed due to the Saints’ participation in the League Cup final.

Full draw

Burnley vs Lincoln
Fulham vs Sp*rs
Blackburn Rovers vs Man United
Sutton United vs Arsenal
Middlesbrough vs Oxford
Wolves vs Chelsea
Huddersfield vs Man City
Millwall vs Derby / Leicester

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Burn Baby Burn

Only a home draw could have made that better. COYG!

Pedant

Top side and away. We have no chance.

Looks like we have to concentrate on the CL.

Cdm995

I reckon we can do it. They should be focusing on a league title push.

Another yank

Remember Brentford and Gervinho’s miss. Nothing is a given.

Another yank

***Bradford***

Cdm995

Bradford, not Brentford.

Cdm995

Bradford, not Brentford. And I wish I could forget.

Another yank

I feel the same way

yas

we have a come a long way from that but lol lets hope the lads have a few runs on 3g pitches

btw

Bring on the kids!
By kids I mean Lucas, Welbeck, Walcott, and Sanchez who will disguise himself as someone from the academy

gooner1981

And an old boy from the academy, Craig Eastmond! Didn’t realise he played non-league till I saw Sutton United’s photos celebrating their last round win

Arsepedant

Sutton’s striker Roarie Deacon was also once on Arsenal’s books.

Alex

Craig Eastmond!

GunnerDareMacedonia

Amaru Bichofff

GUN

What happened to him? How did he end up playing for a non-league team? I remember him being pretty good when he played for us.

Bill Ireland

Its a great draw–it looks like its the first time that Arsenal and Arsene have ever played Sutton, and while its away, its a London game so that simplifies travel as well.

Sam

I was there to watch a pre-season game a few years ago. A 15 year old Dan Crowley ran the show. By no means was it a first team fixture but at least some people associated with the first team will have been there.

JazzAFC

Let’s just be humble and prepare for this game as any other big game, and get a positive result. Underestimation has often been our downfall in the past !

A Different George

Let’s have a sense of proportion. Underestimating a Championship side, or a champion from a smaller European league can be dangerous. This is very different; we should show respect, but a sense of humor is not out of place.

JazzAFC

agreed 😀

Gutbukkit Deffrolla

Swindon bloody Town. Never understimate anybody.

Swindon won in the mud. Sutton have a 3G pitch. I don’t believe we have such a thing at London Colney. Will this make a difference to us?

Alejandro

I’ve read these guys like to play a bit rough.

yas

I am sure chelsea’s game will be more than half the prep for it then.

Arsepedant

Like any non-league team, Sutton’s style is hard and physical. Against Wimbledon and Leeds, they played long ball after long ball, and smashed into tackles. If we play our patient passing game and don’t give them the chance to make a tackle, we’ll pull through easily. If we try to run at them, we could get ourselves in trouble, and possibly see some injuries. Their artificial pitch runs very fast, so the key is to zip the ball around faster than they can run. Damn, I wish I could get to this match! Fifty years ago, I used to go… Read more »

Paul Obertelli

Sutton fan here, Not true, We were that way against AFCW as this is how they play so we had to match them. No, we are a passing side which is why we are not confident, as our strength is quick passing and decent football, which the National league does have, and the 3G pitch we are very used to, but you guys could quite like how quick the ball moves on it and we are not going to out pass you. We only have a couple fairly tall players, our two centre backs.

sixteen swans over ainola

Might it not be in Sutton United’s interest to move the game to the Emirates? If they’re allowed to, of course.

H18ury

Not allowed to these days. Shame really.

Xhaqelin

Are you sure? If both sides want it moved it’d be daft to keep it there

Adrian Milledge

Practice was outlawed by the FA after Farnborough moved their match against us.

Hamburg Gooner

Some years back we had Farnborough away in the Cup and they choose to play at Highbury. Should be possible then ..

Cape Town Gooner

Turns out the FA banned switches after that exact game… https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2003/mar/12/newsstory.sport1

David C

would they share in more money if the game was moved to the Emirates? Apologies, am ignorant on the matter.

not many interesting matches in the draw sadly. Man U will probably muck it up away at Blackburn.

Cape Town Gooner

In FA Cup games ticket receipts and programme sales are split 50/50 (in the league you keep your home revenue). So basically in a draw like this Sutton would have LOVED to have drawn Arsenal at the Emirates. I’m sure it’d bring them more money than the rest of the income for the year combined.

Arsepedant

If the match was played at Emirates, Sutton’d be looking at £1.5M to £2M easily, just in gate receipts. However, this match will be the first choice to be televised, so they’ll get around £500K for that. Plus, Arsenal will probably return their share of the gate receipts – we’ve done that before.

Sutton’s FA Cup money so far this year, even before counting the fifth round match, outweighs all of their other income for the past two seasons put together – and that includes sponsorships.

Sam

Their manager is also the owner of the club and is bankrolling them to the tune of £10k a week i understand. This cup run is invaluable.

I grew up in Sutton and have lots of die hard Sutton fans for friends. This is going to be absolutely massive for them, obviously.

Doug

Would be a classy move by Arsenal to not take any of the profit from the game and just leave it for Sutton

Pedant

If they make no profit then they would still have wage costs of a million or more, far more than the gate receipts.

They would have to take nothing to leave Sutton with all of it.

Arsepedant

Yep, and Arsenal are the epitome of class in football. I bet we do it.

Trixie Bird

We’ve done it before.

David C

thanks for answer 🙂

King Kolo

Football is not all about money. There’s a great game in the offing and Sutton fans get to remember great players in their pitch. If it’s at the Emirates what a dull 3-0 defeat for them that would be. I’d love to see Sanchez or Ozil on my local teams pitch… That’s what memories are made of

Arsepedant

True, but there’s no way Arsene will risk Ozil or Sanchez on an artificial pitch.

King Kolo

You’re probably right but point still holds. Google ‘away stand Sutton United’ – amazing! And they’ll still make a load off TV money etc etc.

SLC_Gooner

Wow … all the big teams avoided each other!! I was hoping for a few collateral damage kinda scenario .. hehe. Especially fun would have been Sp*rs vs Manure & Chelsh*t vs Sh*tty. Anyways, I am glad we got a decent draw just hoping for our player’s safety on those artificial turf.

Copelandão

Dad used to work in Sutton (and hated it there) so let’s go there and stuff them! Fast start important as every other football fan out there will be backing them for an upset.

Alexstratz

No matter the result, the biggest winner is Sutton from a financial point of view. This one match against us, one the most prestigious team in the PL, will pay their wages and infrastructure for years.

Cornelius P. Snuffington III

Think it’s only worth that crazy amount if they play away and get a share of the gate from our much larger and more profitable stadium? This game now will no doubt be chosen for TV though, so they’ll get some money for that.

Arsepedant

TV money for this round will be close to £500K. It was well over £200K last round.

SB

Not one PL tie?

Magneto

Sutton are in the fifth tier of the English football pyramid, so they are four divisions below the
mighty Arsenal.

Ebo

So three and a half below Sp*rs.

sixteen swans over ainola

No one is below Sp*rs.

Arsepedant

110 league places between the two teams right now.

Gutbukkit Deffrolla

I like to look at it as 107 places if you discount the three Football League teams Sutton have already eliminated from the Cup.

It’s all very well assuming we should beat them, but we should really be looking at the humiliation that we’d have by losing to them. We must take them as seriously as any other team because the consequences of losing would be extremely damaging to both our reputation and our confidence.

Lose this game and we will never regain the mental strength needed to win the League.

Tasmanian Jesus

We can just never get a break, can we!?
First off to Munich, then straight here!

Anyway, must be time of the century to be a Sutton fan!

Arsepedant

Oh, it is, it is!

Kinghenrythe14th

This draw reminds me of the Champions League draw a few years ago when we ended up with Monaco. Guess what happened when we got complacent? Saying that, I know this squad is hungrier and more experienced. And the 12 day rest before playing Liverpool is the cherry on top! COYG

'Murica

I’m not sure a 5th tier team necessarily compares to a team that qualified for the CL final 16.

yas

there is a big bloody difference between Monaco and Sutton united lol. Monaco probably spends the same amount on money on shirt designing as Sutton united on there entire squad

Fred

A feel a switch to the Emirates coming on. Must be better financially for Sutton?

Arsepedant

Not allowed. The FA outlawed it right after we did it for the match against Farnborough in 2003.

Gutbukkit Deffrolla

Yeah, but its only been 14 years. Surely you can’t expect your average football fan to adapt to new rules that quickly.

Arsepedant

Not even when reading the same thing five times earlier in these comments?

Ancient Gooner

Just brilliant!?

Jack4343

Some really good home draws for some lower tiered teams which is always good for the sport. My only complaint is the stadium is so small that the camera angle is bad on TV but that’s just minor stuff isn’t it? COYG!

Tom Gun

Obviously we will use this to give the squad members game time. Having said that we won’t have a game for 2 weeks after this game. So, from a Sutton point of view, will they want to play against the (don’t like this term but it serves a point) ‘2nd team’ or go up against Ozil, Sanchez and the full force of Arsenal?

Also, should we go 2nd team or go even further and play the kids, so giving game time to the likes of Willock and Bielik as well as the likes of The Jeff and Maitland-Niles?

Tom Gun

Which team should we play, A, B or C?

A
Cech
Bellerin Mustafi Koscielny Monreal
Xhaka Ramsey
Walcott Ozil Welbeck
Sanchez

B
Ospina
Debuchy Mertesacker Gabriel Gibbs
Coquelin Elneny
Lucas Oxlade-Chamberlain Iwobi
Giroud

C
Martinez
Jenkinson Holding Bielik Bramall
Maitland-Niles Dragomir
The Jeff Willock Nelson
Sanogo

(I’m assuming Bennacer and Akpom will go on loan)

This was fun to do! Just saying.

Anyway, A, B or C?!

Cape Town Gooner

Nothing wrong with the team that whoomped Southampton. I’d go for something similar assuming no new inuries etc.

Thierry Bergkamp

We saw what happened when Leeds did that. I’m sure Wimbledon thought they’d beat Sutton too.

Granit(e) hard!

On paper, it looks like an easy draw, but something tells me it won’t be as easy as some people assumes…..they won’t be in the 5th round of the FA Cup if they are easy pushovers, furthermore, the home draw will suit their game plan to a T, they are used to playing on their pitch and our players won’t be, but it is definitely a winnable match if we approach this with the seriousness it deserves. Strong squad please!

CLEGooner

You have to feel good for sutton and their fans. What must they be thinking?

Thst said, leTs stuff the cunts by double digits.

Mark

Yeah I want to be all humble and say let’s not get too optimistic, but fuck it, let’s hammer the wannabe arseholes into the ground and send them back to that shit hole Sutton on the shitty southern network whilst their ugly kids bawl all the way home with their bullshit dreams shattered.

Jack4343

Yeah that was harsh but had me chuckling!

Jr.BoyvilleGooner

Game of the lifetime for them. LeCoqs thinking… slide tackle on artificial turf… ooo stingy.

Scott saunders

Need to watch out for their midfield dynamo a certain Craig eastmond, some may of heard of him apparently he’s played champions league – on to watch

Indian Gooner

FA cup.. Our Lady Love.. has always been kind.

dr Strange

Will be harder than Southampton.

archie

Having lived in Sutton for years, it’s a dream come true. But as a Gunner, my loyalties will be severely tested. For Sutton’s sake, let’s hope they can take Arsenal to a replay. Not THAT really WILL be payola for Sutton. About the only time I’ll ever advocate an extra game for the Wenger’s Red Army. And all in a good cause. What’s not to like. C’mon Sutton! C’mon Arsenal!

A Different George

Blogs: Their colors are amber and “chocolate.” Or, as it is sometimes called, “brown.”

Micko

That’s us out then

kagz

Our annual c.l trip to Munich 😀

Cyganmyster

This is why we love the FA-CUP.

I wouldn’t mind a replay. Give the kids more playing time and extra money for Sutton.

Or Arsenal offer to give all profits to Sutton and switch the game to The Emirates?

Win-Win

Gutbukkit Deffrolla

Against the Rules-Against the Rules

…since 2003. How come nobody noticed?

Dial Square

Our luck has run out, tough opponents and away from home.
Jokes aside, I wish they could play this at the Emirates so that Sutton could make some money. Maybe a draw and a replay?

Mark

Surely it would be staged at a bigger ground??

NdJr.

Will be interesting to see former academy players Eastmond, Deacon and Monakana in action.

Mark

They will work day and night from now until match day on how to beat us. They will analyse everything about us, and will come to the game strong and ready to break our legs if neccesary. Beating us will be the best thing to happen to them.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THEM.

Mow

Watched them against Wimbledon and thought they knocked the ball around well for a non-league team. I then noticed that Craig Eastmond was pulling the strings for them so it all made a bit more sense. Arsenal DNA.

Gutbukkit Deffrolla

Buy him today, before that pesky window closes.

Trippytaka

Sutton Hoo?

Lord Bendnter

Whaaaaaat!! I’m so shocked! We drew Sutton omg! Wait did I spell their teams name correctly?
Am I dreaming? Pinch me!

Mezoot ozil

If we don’t play for 12 days after this one let’s smash the almighty fuck out of these south London wankers and bring our full team and win 14-0 ending their FA cup dreams making old men cry. Great for them though but let’s teach them a fucking lesson anyway. Bet it won’t be on the box as the BBC are right up those Man U cunts arse but still. Would be a great game to go to but let’s be realistic, we’re playing a bunch of part time postmen so there’s no excuse for not destroying them. COYG

Lord Bendnter

I thought I saw Craig eastmond in one of their pics, turns out he does play for Sutton!

FrankTheTank

Im sure their team was smiling from ear to ear when they drew Arsenal. Not often a team that far down the pecking order gets to test their mettle against world class opposition.

But we will probably field very few of our first 11 players. Which is fine by me, Dont need Sanchez doing a Falcao when Falcao was cut down by a player way to late into the tackle against 4th division opposition in the cup. It’s fair to say Falcao has not been the same since.

Shane

The top 5 teams away to lower league opposition – brilliant draw for the Cup itself!

Arsepedant

Hoping for four upsets in the other matches.

Scott

I remember us drawing Non league Farnborough all those years ago, couldn’t believe my ears when I heard it on the radio, being from Farnborough myself. Sutton’s fans must be buzzing with the news!

78/79/80

Ha. I’m from Camberley. Used to watch the Shots in the 70s and 80’s. See my ridiculous post below.

78/79/80

I grew up a gooner cos my Dad was but living in south Surrey our local team was Aldershot who were a 4th Division (league 2) team for almost all of that time. The second game I ever saw was a 1v1 vs Graham Taylor’s Watford the season they got promoted on their run to Div 1. It was 1977. In ’79 Aldershot had their own amazing cup run only losing in the 5th round replay to Shrewsbury when they should have held on to a lead in the first tie. Would have played Arsenal in the semi’s had they… Read more »

shokim

Absolutely agree with your “channelling my inner Rambling Pete” comment. Well played, Sir.

Clive St Helmet

We definitely don’t want to underestimate them. There would be nothing more morale sapping than starting an underpowered side and losing.

On the other hand, I can see pretty much the entire starting 11 rested.

Assuming they’re all fit, how about a lineup of:

Ospina
Jenkinson
Holding
Gabriel
Gibbs
Elneny
Maitlan-Niles
Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Iwobi
Willock
Perez

Cech
Mertesacker
Bellerin
Ramsey
Welbeck
Walcott
Giroud

I can imagine Arsene doing something strange like playing Sanogo mind you!

Clive St Helmet

Ah, forgot the Jeff. He’ll definitely feature if fit, probably for Willock. In my imaginary Football Manager side to face Sutton…

Chris

What is everyone’s thoughts on playing on the artificial pitch at Sutton? Should a real pitch be a minimum requirement?

Steve D

As a long-standing Arsenal and Sutton fan (first Arsenal game 1969, first Sutton game around 1966, was at both Leeds games), I am ecstatic. Perfect draw – should be comfortable win for Arsenal and another great occasion and payday for Sutton (although not quite as much as quoted above, live TV fee is £250k per club). Never thought I’d see the day when my two teams met each other in a competitive match. Don’t worry about the artificial pitch – it’s not one of those where you get burns if you go over. It’s as close to grass as makes… Read more »

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