Report: Elneny wanted by Galatasaray?

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Mohamed Elneny may be back in training following his summer on international duty with Egpyt but it looks as though his Arsenal days are numbered.

The 25-year-old only featured in eight Premier League games last season and with Granit Xhaka, Lucas Torreira, Matteo Guendouzi, Dani Ceballos and young Joe Willock all higher up the midfield pecking order he must be weighing up his options.

Rumours of a move are nothing new. Since signing from Basel in January 2016 for £11 million, he’s been variously linked with Leicester, Roma, Marseille, Bordeaux and Besiktas.

Despite all that, he penned a new long-term deal in March 2018 and is under contract until 2022. On one level, that’s great as it means we’re in no danger of losing him for free, on another we have to deal with the fact his last pay bump has pushed him out of the reach of quite a few clubs.

One side who are thought to be able to afford his wages are serial window shoppers Galatasaray.

The Turkish giants sniffed around a couple of years ago and FutbolArena says that Elneny, along with Chelsea’s Tiemoue Bakayoko, could be on their radar again.

We’re always wary of stories coming from Istanbul, but on the surface, it’s a move that makes sense. Well, assuming they paid a decent fee.

Given we just raised £10 million for Krystian Bielik and we were chasing £10 million for Laurent Koscielny, what would be a decent price for an international midfielder in his prime years? Surely we’d want to get more than we bought him for? Or would we loan him out and stick a right-to-buy clause in the deal. Who knows.

We have many questions and not so many answers. It’s one to keep an eye on though.

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HelderHughes
HelderHughes

Our players on paper should be worth more than they do. But somehow they are pretty much worth whatever we can scrounge for them.

Goonereality
Goonereality

Anything – a footballer, a car, a house, whatever, is only worth what somebody else is prepared to pay for it. If they’re not prepared to pay then no sale.

We overpaid the transfer fee for many of the players who are surplus to requirements and who we’re trying to sell, and their wages are too high in relation to their ability/performance. This is largely down to the previous management team.

We need to get these players off the balance sheet so, to a degree, have to accept what’s offered. It’s that or no sale.

Futsboller
Futsboller

Part of the reason our players are worth a less than they should command is the way we’ve been playing and performing. When we turn things around, we’ll be back in the driver’s seat when it comes to transfers (though Raul is doing an admirable job from the backseat of an Uber, I must say!). Everyone looks better when we win.

To be fair, the previous management team also did some pretty nice deals along the way: Rob Holding still has to prove he’s the real Rob Holding, but considering what teams have been paying for centrebacks the past few seasons he remains a wonder signing.

Goonereality
Goonereality

Well, I don’t think there were many “pretty nice deals” in the latter years, and they are surely outweighed by other transfers that have proved to be a colossal waste in both fees and wages. For example, one “Holding” at £2 million vs one “Mustafi” at £35 million or one “Ozil” at £42 million. As our American cousins would say, “You do the math.”.

IamaGoober

We need to move this guy on, he doesn’t play because he isn’t good enough. A bit of a clinical assessment, but in the cold light of day that is the truth. I dont really see how we are going to get anything out of him at all. Surely the Europa League openers Unai will be using the Younger guys in the squad who have a future with us. We shouldn’t be wasting their development on by giving Elneny minutes.

SarcasmB0t
SarcasmB0t

But if anything is worth whatever someone is willing to pay, how could we have overpaid?

Surely that means the players were worth what we paid, no?

henry
henry

£25 would be a good number for him? I guess.

Gooooooonnnnaaaaaaaa
Gooooooonnnnaaaaaaaa

Guess it turns out he wasn’t the Egyptian Patrick Vieira afterall! 🤣

Santori
Santori

Give him away for free.

Pointless player for us.

There are players who maybe not as strong as we need them to be then there are players who have no function for us.

Elneny and Jenkinson are these players. Sure you may be sentimental bc you think Elneny may develop into some sort of midfield genius at late age or Jenkinson is aan Arsenal fan but frankly they have little function.

Elneny – We have Willock AND Guendouzi not to mention Torreira and Cebellos to pair with Granit and that’s not even considering what people like to obsess themselves with in reverting AMN back to his “Natural position” never mind he has to learn from scratch again.

Jenkinson – Mustafi started ahead of him last season at Rback and did a better job will tell you something. If not AMN not in his natural position and despite mistakes bc he is still learning miles ahead of Jenkinson.

In fact before you come to the hasty conclusion that it has to be Mustafi sold and Chambers is a better option to keep, I would caution in saying it depends who (IF) we bring in at Cback plus Chambers has not been any stronger than Mustafi.

He was positionally (along with Sokratis) not tight enough for the Dembele goal against Lyon and whilst many would like to prescribe blame (of course) solely on Mustafi, it was Chambers that had line of sight on Suarez and should have close distance with his Cback partner.

Anyway for those who want to revel in Mustafi being the worst defender in the league, here you go :

http://youaremyarsenal.com/shkodran-mustafi-arsenal-tactical-analysis-statistics/

I am Gooner
I am Gooner

Seriously, this is the stupidest comment I have read on this website, maybe, ever.

Cygan’sbaldspot
Cygan’sbaldspot

Whenever I see a really long comment I always skip it, but go back to check if the poster is who I think it is. It’s always Santori.

Kentish Gooner
Kentish Gooner

Wow. Santori sucks.

SB Still
SB Still

Good squad player but clearly Emery doesn’t trust him. Hence, time to move on. A link to a Turkish club – I’ll believe it when it happens.

In other news, Arseblog.news is like a watched pot – no news of any defensive incoming. There seems to be plenty of smoke around ManU and Tots though!

Neil Pearce
Neil Pearce

Never been any good
Don’t know why we bought him

Santori
Santori

not a good buy. Average player. Wenger was just covering.

And we have plenty of players in midfield. GUendouzi, Torreira, Cebellos to go with Granit and Willock.

He’s not even a squad player at this point.

He has less function than Mustafi.

Segun Goonereris
Segun Goonereris

We bought him because as a young 22 year old, playing for Basel in the champions league, he held his own against some of the best teams in Europe, including man united and Chelsea, showing promise for a great future. That’s what clubs do. Sometimes, it works. Other times, it doesn’t. To my mind, he did his job, even if it didn’t meet with approval from the fan base all the time and that is down to the performance/ failings of the team during his time at the club.

On the subject of value, how about we stop bad-mouthing our players on social media? Maybe, that de-values them right there.

Segun Goonereris
Segun Goonereris

That should read “Liverpool and Chelsea”; and he cost us less than £7m at the time…..

utk
utk

Feels like we will see a more noticeable effort to push fringe players out of the club after the EPL window is closed. HOPEFULLY the club’s hierarchy fully focuses on bringing in the CB we so desperately need before the window closes!!

Jera

centreBACKS maybe.

Unsure of Holding’s record

Emery wants Mustafi out

So the only experienced centreback is Sokratis

Jera

*Holding’s fitness*

Lettra
Lettra

Show us the money ! !

Euros please.

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

Well the pound’s not going to be worth anything soon

Man
Man

Thanks for that Daily Mail readers

Goonereality
Goonereality

All football transfers within Europe are in Euros, including all transfers to and from this country. Many years ago they used to be in US Dollars.

Peter Story Teller
Peter Story Teller

We can accept Turkish Lira. We know where to find a Bureau de Change!

Glocken
Glocken

Hopefully we can offload him for between 10 – 15
Million. He’s surplus to requirements & I’m sure he wants to play regularly.

I think we should wait for Tierney until January, he’a still recovering from surgery & we should monitor his recovery during the first half of the season, we can survive with Monreal & Kolasinac.

If Elneny does go it gives a midfield spot to Maitland-Niles, I’d like to see a right back brought in before Thursday (unlikely I know), not convinced we are helping his development by playing him in a position he is clearly struggling with.

Santori
Santori

Who is going to pay 10m for Elneny?

You are dreaming.

Midfield spot is Willock’s.

AMN is our Rback and he will improve. It is his ‘natural position’. He certainly is better at it than Jenkinson (in fact so is Mustafi)

Kjay

Maitland-niles cant play midfied at the top level…not good enough. He’s a better prospect at right back than in midfied….just needs to stop being lackadaisical and concentrate fully

GGN007
GGN007

We signed him for 4 million not 10.

Merlin's Panini
Merlin's Panini

We all know links to clubs in Turkey are usually bollocks.
I like Elneny but I’m fine if he stays, fine if he goes. A decent squad player but not irreplaceable even from within our own ranks. If he stays I hope he has an awesome season, if he goes good luck to him.

Goonereality
Goonereality

We desperately need a quality centre back and it looks like we’re selling surplus players now to raise money to bid for one before the deadline. Not only Elneny but Jenkinson is also supposed to be leaving.

Santori
Santori

Those two don’t even have the function of Mustafi. They should have been moved on two seasons or more ago but we can’t find buyers not bc of salary alone but bc they have little quality.

Pepe
Pepe

With his athleticism I away thought he could be used as a right back, could be worth a go if we don’t get good money for him

Santori
Santori

Never played Rback, never used him as Rback, can barely feature in his ‘natural position’.

Sure.

Lord Bendnter
Lord Bendnter

U know when you’re playing Manager mode on Fifa, and you just started a career season and you run through your team list, and you’re like okay you, you, you, you, you, you, you, and you all are going on the transfer list. And you, you, you, just pay the damn 15,000 and release these players.
And then when you get some offers for the fringe players, you’re like “meh whatever, screw negotiating, just accept and sell,” cuz you are too damn lazy and can’t be bothered.

…..anyways, that’s how I feel right now

Santori
Santori

The problem is too many people prefer to live in fantasy.

The real world is very different.

We are not going to be able to buy Tierney and a Rback and a Cback without compromise to quality at Cback.

There is NO money to go buying everywhere. We need to manage risk next season and prioritise which means Cback is most urgent and we need to reserve all our money for a bid to get the best possible.

AND that doesn’t necessarily mean we fix our defensive issues because they go way beyond Mustafi.

In fact Mustafi is a very small part of it.

Against barca, Chambers had view of the striker and should have closed the space. It is a repeated issue bc it happened against Lyon when space again between Sokratis and Chambers was generous affording Dembele a simple header.

Until people wake up and realise this instead of simply blaming Mustafi (or Flamini), they will continue to be surprised why we are still having issues.

As for these fringe players, every bit counts in cobbling enough to raise the current budget.

As mentioned, we need about 70m.

We have 40m base plus Bielik brings in 10m, Koscielny, Elneny, Jenkinson, Ospina together may cobble up another 10-15m hopefully.

Then we are talking about potentially maybe Mhkitaryan at say another 10m (or maybe he can be used as a make weight for Upamnecano bc they are looking at ESR or a creative player)

So that’s 30-35m

Then there are the Cbacks and we would hopefully cull one of Mustafi or Chambers IF we sign a new Cback.

BUT there is no guarantee which one bc it depends on offers in market frankly and if Chambers has appetite to challenge from 4th pick.

So bearing in mind Upamecano is quoted at 70m, we offered 55m, maybe we can bring it in if we hold firm plus throw a loan (Mavropanos) or a sales (Mhkitaryan), its substantial chunk of change which will require realistically the rest of the budget to carry through.

IF we go for the alternative (and frankly weaker) option of Rugani (a player with his own divided opinion as Mustafi at Juve), we carry a lot more risk but it may be another loan which has flexibility and can maybe then provide a late bid for Tierney.

BUT the stronger option is Upamecano IMO.

And we need to put the bulk of whats available into it because what we need at Cback is not more players BUT quality.

So even if Elneny brings in pittance, it will still help (particularly as we are likely out 20-25m with Pepe, Saliba, Martinelli and Cebellos even if in installments or loan with can kicked down the road and risk of its own)

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

Some people live in a fantasy land where they know everything about football, whereas everyone else is a pleb with no understanding of the subject and just develop opinions based on what they’re told by the media.

Segun Goonereris
Segun Goonereris

Well said. I have said it a number of times; defending is a collective effort. Good spot there too, re that Suarez goal. That was Chambers’ job all day long. He was busy looking out for another potential runner, perhaps, because Ainsley Maitland-Niles didn’t tuck in to help keep watch on that player, as is required of full backs when play is central by the opposition.

But, we love to have a villain and that’s got to be Mustafi (or Xhaka, or Ozil). A striker misses 10 chances, scores a winning goal and he is hailed. A defender scraps all game long and has one moment of indecision and all his other hard and good work is forgotten. It’s the nature of the game.

Hep
Hep

Arsenal recently signed staff members who mainly attend to this problem. The famous case of getting nothing much for Serge Gnabry. You can already see results from these guys:
Ospina 4M
Bielik 10M
Koscielny 5M (Arsene would have let him go for nothing)
Bellacer 3M from sell-on clause (ALWAYS insist on a sell-on clause, and include the % as a negotiating chip – even 2% from a Bale or a Coutinho ends up being worth the effort)
Jenkinson 2M (in negotiations)
If you add this up – what do you know – it is enough for the whole first payment on Pepe. So, it makes a difference.

Segun Goonereris
Segun Goonereris

This “case of Gnabry” thing is just balderdash. Kid had his opportunities with the first team, got injured and returned at a time he couldn’t be risked, with the stars we then had at our disposal. So, off to WBA he goes only to be deemed not good enough, (however wrongly, but that was Pulis’ assessment). He was promised he will be eased into things but he wanted to go straight in to displace, who? Alexis? Oxlade-Chamberlain or Walcott? We even had Campbell at the time….

Now, what most don’t get is this power Bayern Munich has over clubs in Germany. They had shown interest and when we named a fair price, they got Weder Bremen, a side with a limited budget, to bid for him; we budged under pressure of the player, unaware of the secret pact for Weder to then sell to Bayern. Smart but sneaky, if truth be told. He should have been sold for no less than £15m but Bayern went the cheap route.

Arsenio
Arsenio

Hahaha Lord’s always good for a chuckle

Boydy
Boydy

How the fuck is Elneny 25? Mo has been with us for ages, never once was he talked about as a child prodigy which he must have been when we signed him!

Andre Santos' car keys
Andre Santos' car keys

Small oversight by blogs. Elneny is 27. I feel you though — January 2016 feels like a lot longer ago than it should for some reason.

Ric
Ric

He’s 27. We signed him at 24

Santori
Santori

Upamecano issue is going to the wire. Rugani is prob the lesser option for us even if it saves money for a Tierney bid.

Liepzg are playing tough but we should also hold firm.

OTOH we have some cards to play.

1) There are less potential buyers in market this summer that will pay the price we can or want with Juve buying De Ligt (for 68m) and United with Macguire (80m)

Price on Upamecano (release said to be 92m a bit over valued)

We have seen with Fekir (as is common in market) if the seller over reaches, they may stand to lose significant money.

He has two seasons left on contract

2) Adendum to that they also have some redundancy as they still have Konate.

3) We have players to throw at them to sweeten the deal or make weight.

They want Smith-Rowe on loan or permanent which we should rightly not contemplate but where they were frugal defensively, they have also struggled on the other end (hence the interest in a creative player) and we have Mhkiatrayn we could push as potential make weight who has pedigree in Bundesliga and whilst surplus to us (since the beginning frankly), is still a decent creative player that could help them for a couple of seasons.

or we could offer Mavropanos on loan to replace their loss of Upamecano and it would be useful for us as well since they are more apparent in manufacturing good defenders than we are.

So plenty to ponder and push.

Glasgow_ Gooner
Glasgow_ Gooner

“Why bro, I swear “

Glasgow_ Gooner
Glasgow_ Gooner

“ Yes bro..I swear…Who will join me “

David Hillier's luggage
David Hillier's luggage

Being a bit pedantic, but isn’t Elneny 27 (according Arsenal.com) and didn’t Arsenal sign him for near £5m(according to the BBC)? Puts a different context on things given he’s prob at his peak selling age, will want playing time and arrived for less than we paid for either Guendouzi or Martinelli (and possibly less than Ceballos’ loan fee?). I’m sure the club will see anything in the £7-10m bracket as a good offer.

Shame really, busy squad player with a good engine who was never awful for us. Not really sure why Emery didn’t want to use him at all, even during our injury crisis when Xhaka was a regular CB. Also odd he wasn’t sold last summer when there seems to interest and his stock was at its highest after a half decent world cup.

Hep
Hep

Date of birth 11 July 1992

Naked Cygan
Naked Cygan

He can cover center back. He is 100% better that mustafaki

Cultured determination
Cultured determination

Quiz: when was the last time we actually sold to galatasaray? Great ally in helping to drum up interest though, like how we’re helping barca drum up interest in coutinho by showing ‘interest’. Or are we really interrsted in that one? Im confused

Hep
Hep

We are not interested in paying 27M for a loan for a player who plays the same position, but is not as good as, the player we just paid 15M for a loan.

Notice that Ceballos has no sale clause in his loan, RM refused, while Barca is (allegedly) entertaining purchase offers for him. That clearly indicates Ceballos is better, Coutinho had a mediocre year. RM is desperate to keep Ceballos, much as when Nketiah goes on loan this week, there will be no sale clause.

Fans’ biggest problem is that they are bedazzled by Players’ Agents PR campaigns about how incredible their players are.

When Arsenal bought Mustafi, fans were saying “awesome, finally a good defender” simply because we paid a lot of money, and because his Agent spread BS in the media about how good he was.

Note that we paid 2M for Rob Holding, he spent months making classic rookie errors, and then all of a sudden that stopped, and now he is equivalent to 50M centre backs. That’s who we need to sign tomorrow, not some guy with a 92M release clause and a great Agent.

Mesut O’Neill
Mesut O’Neill

Probably Eboue in 2011

Clockendrider
Clockendrider

Ever noticed how ahead of an upcoming game one team is really interested in buying from another? And then after the game, nothing happens and it’s never mentioned again?
That’s what the Coutinho story was.

Arsebjørn
Arsebjørn

Podolski..?

Sideshow boblocks
Sideshow boblocks

Well if only the crossbar was three feet taller his long range efforts would amount to something special. Given that pic he cut off a million Euros of transfer fee worthiness off of his head

Mintoes
Mintoes

No big loss, especially with the young guys coming through and pushing for squad places.

The Spoon
The Spoon

Never really got a chance, probably with a run in the side could’ve been better. For some reason past and present manager seem to prefer Xhaka over anyone else in the squad. Get some game time elsewhere short career. A player that goes with some dignity.

Cultured determination
Cultured determination

I have a completely irrelevant question to this post that’s been on my mind for years:
Why do we not have the comment section on some of this blog’s posts?
Anyone can shed some light? Does Mr Ornstein have the answer?

Merlin’s Panini
Merlin’s Panini

Huh? There are always comments on Arseblog news.

Cultured determination
Cultured determination

Im referring to the posts. Not the news.

d_j_nolan
d_j_nolan

Now that Ospina has finally gone it seems Elneny has chosen to fill the gap for the player linked with Greek/Turkish clubs in the transfer window. I look forward to his eventual loan move to Valencia and then Hoffenheim before being sold in three years for 2 million to DC United.