Luiz: Arsenal always have to win

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David Luiz says it’s important the players keep their heads after Monday night’s 1-0 defeat to Sheffield United, and that they need to keep believing in Unai Emery’s philosophy.

Quite what that philosophy is is anyone’s guess, but maybe they have greater insight into it on the training ground than we do by just watching Arsenal’s performances.

The Gunners take on Crystal Palace tomorrow at the Emirates in a game which demands a response to the dismal display at Bramall Lane, and the Brazilian has emphasised the importance of taking three points.

“We have to be honest about what went wrong, but we also have to be calm,” he told Sky Sports about the last Premier League defeat.

“It’s only our second defeat this season. We are doing many things well.

“We have to keep believing in our philosophy, we have to keep believing in our team, which is the best way for us to improve.

“We have to win, we always have to win. If you want to achieve big goals, you have to think about winning, winning, winning.

“It’ll be tough against Crystal Palace but we want the three points. I want to win titles with Arsenal, that’s why I’m here.”

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anon567

Guys, this is all getting too toxic regarding the manager. Klopp finished 8th in 2015-16 and 4th the following 2 seasons.

I get where you are all coming from, I actually up voted a couple of Emery out comments in the aftermath of Monday night, but feel really guilty about that now. He needs more time, at least until the end of this season to get champions league and perhaps even to the end of next season if we can financially afford to wait that long.

Thursday I don’t mind at all, Willock and AMN have had a very valuable learning experience in that game, 3 of the back 4 have been out for 6-12 months and have gained valuable game time and match fitness …. and we still managed to win a game (that we didn’t need to) thanks to Pepe.

Also , with Ozil, a bit of reality guys, if Ozil was going to get us 20-25 assists a season and not be a detriment to the team then I’m sure he would be played. He just maybe doesn’t work with Emery as manager, and even the maybe the management think he’s not quite at that level where he’s going to be an assist machine in the premier league anymore.
I wouldn’t risk offloading him to ManU as they are top 4 competition, but a move to a slightly lower level where he will flourish, the MLS, the big money for him and the Hollywood lifestyle …. it could really work for everyone here.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a massive Ozil fan, but we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. With Smith Rowe and Ceballos we appear to be looking to the future, presuming there is some kind of plan to either buy Ceballos if his loan is a success, or integrate Smith Rowe more over the season, so he’s ready to take on more responsibility next season.
Monday was only our second loss of the Season, and Thursday was about developing youngsters and getting match fitness for long term absentees.

Things are on the Up fellow gooners, too much negativity on this site’s comment section!

Naked Cygan
Naked Cygan

Did you watch the Watford game?
Did you watch the Man Utd game when our capitan put his head down?
Did you watch the Shefield United game?
Have you seen improvements in our defence?
Have seen improvements in our offence?
Are you happy with the choice of our Capitan and how he was picked?
Are you happy that we had 3rd place in the bag, and we lost to palace at home?
Are you happy with our performance in the Europa final?
Do you seriously think things are on the up??

Ram
Ram

We need defenders and get rid of ozil paying too much wage bill.

Der32
Der32

Liverpool fans were patient with Klopp because they can see what he’s trying to do. I don’t know what Emery’s plan is, hence the frustration. This is the reason for the backlash I guess.

Naked Cygan
Naked Cygan

Liverpool also spent millions on goalkeeper, best defender in world, they raided Southampton for talent. They have a solid English core in their team. Klopp actually plays with tactics and plans games. He demands excellence from his team. He has salah, and the list goes on……..we can’t compare our manager, owners, or list of players with Liverpool.

Duno
Duno

I’m currently watching Lampard’s Chelsea winning four nil against Burnley. Please forgive me if I don’t feel the same way as you.

Man Manny
Man Manny

The sad reality is that you can’t see Emery’s Arsenal do that away to any team in the Epl.
Two away matches against Watford and Shefield U has yielded a solitary point.
That tells you all I am afraid.
EMERY OUT!!!

Jack but
Jack but

For the second time David Louis claims he wants to win title with Arsenal, should we tell him?

Martin
Martin

You’re wasting your time trying to appease the toxic supporters we seem to have.

Santori
Santori

Well said. Some people have their heads up their arse.

It was never as if Ozil was winning us games, if anything I seem to recall his off the ball work is particularly poor which affects the press by the rest of the team and allow for gaps to open.

Some people completely deluded wanking off to their own fantasies.

Martin Elliott
Martin Elliott

So what went wrong at SU and what is the philosophy???

someone
someone

There is no need to fixate on Emery’s lack of footballing philosophy as a flaw when he cant even coach the most basics of football , Arsenal has downgraded in every area of the pitch and sacking Emery as soon as possible is the best option.

Takeshita
Takeshita

@someone

I disagree with you on your statement that UE does not have a philosophy. The early days of last season was exciting because of the high press tactical philosophy which faded away. Now you may ask questions like why? The answers to which even I don’t have. It’s quite perplexing to be honest. Only 1 thing I can think of is the manager has lost faith in himself and his philosophy.

Duno
Duno

Hahaha! This is even worse.

Arsenonymous
Arsenonymous

Good to see that Luiz seems to become a key figure in the team.

Not so good to hear what he says, though. Either he’s very good at pretending, or…

Mouise
Mouise

The number of interviews with Luiz is incredible! He is par with UE! lol

Eddie Hoyte
Eddie Hoyte

To me every time he speaks, he sounds positive and assuring but at same time he tends to sounds like he’s licking Emery’s àss, because clearly none of us know what philosophy it is Emery has instilled upon em. Even past legends keep on questioning that philosophy

Karmafrench
Karmafrench

That s why i miss Wenger. He wanted To win but he also wanted to give people something good to watch. A lot of us are just a bunch of proletarian who put so much money and time into this. Football can be a fantastic and magnificient show. And giving the people something to appreciate and entertain should be the only philosophy. Those millionaires need to remember that if they have this life its because of us.
I m just a delusional anticapitalist but in Wenger i thought there was some kind of “leftist” with that emphasis on giving the people what they pay for ( even if he was one of the most paid manager in the world ). I could be the only one but i will totally accept To only play europa league if that mean we see some good shit on the pitch again.
So what i want to say is that luiz, Emery and whatever philosophy they have can go f*** themselves. And until then i will continue to lose my time and money because i still love football and arsenal even if its hard.

anonarse
anonarse

I agree in most of what you’re saying, however I don’t think there’s ever been a “leftist” approach to the game, not even political. Football is business, and the product of the business is entertainment and entertaining teams makes the most money because they attract the most fans. However to keep a position where we can attract the best player (who offer attractive football) we need results and we’ll need to get back to CL (which the best players want to be in, and where the real money lies).

Arsenal is in a transition, with a change of generation, which needs patience, however the team need to start to entertain again and we need to see a clear philosophy and a project we can believe will bring us titles in the near future.

It Is What It Is
It Is What It Is

Watched the first 15mins of ‘Take the Ball, Pass the Ball’ (Barca 09-13 Beast Mode documentary), and I am now certain Emery will not last. If he does, he’s going to have to have a re-alignment of philosophy.

Arsenal have (had) a culture, style of play, and values developed over the last 22 years that the world has come to love. We’ve all heard fans and pundits alike, at various points over those 22 years say they would pay to watch Arsenal. It’s sleek, beautiful and fluid due to emphasis on creative expression and in my opinion, a considerable number of players who are adaptable positionally.

It’s our DNA, it’s why the kids play with that swagger. It’s ingrained. That’s why I feel our European performances are better.

Emery tried to change too much without respecting the culture of the club. We needed structure and solidity mostly in defence and in the defensive phase (Conte, oddly just popped into my mind – don’t particularly want him). Players knowing where they need to be when X/Y/Z is happening. Or when A/B/C is happening.

We look headless, and for all the talk of captains, we look leaderless. Just a few players who roll up their sleeves and lead by example – Laca, Auba, Guendouzi. Martinelli, Torreira, Willock and Saka impressing me in that respect too.

The level of naivety on show in every match is what staggers me the most. Senior professionals making the same old mistakes, becoming negative traits individually and collectively. Followed by a mini drama production of ‘why always me?’ staring Sokratis, Luiz, Mustafi with Xhaka.

It Is What It Is
It Is What It Is

Sheesh. Sorry to eat into your weekend guys.

It Is What It Is
It Is What It Is

And females, of course.

DB10s Air Miles
DB10s Air Miles

Girls aren’t allowed on the internet……..

anonarse
anonarse

We can perhaps call it the DNA of Arsenal, but in reality wasn’t it the philosophy and the values of Wenger we all became in love with? In a way Emery had to change some of the legacy of le prof, to be able to form his vision (a vision I can’t seem to identify).

One of the problem with having Wenger for such period of time (same goes for Sir Alex Ferguson) is that he was given almost ultimate power and could freely create his values which later has become identical with what most of us think of as Arsenals DNA. I did like Arsenal under Wenger, with the clear play and offield holistic philosophy, but is it really Arsenal?

I’m not saying it couldn’t be Arsenal, and I do hope we once again can reintergate those values and the entertainig side of the game, but the modern football has changed a lot, and it has become a game where money is determining more and more what you can do to create a team which plays the way you like the most. Those teams who can’t (or want) to dominate the transfermarket needs to adopt their game in another way, and often it can be a little “anti-footballish”, and play to exploit the opponents weaknesses rather than playing to their own strength.

I’m no big fan of Emery, and like you I don’t think he will last to long here. But at the same time, I think it’s about time that the board has a reflection of exactly what Arsenal FC should be, and if we want to be the protagonists (Emery wanted us to be) we need to be spending more to build a competitive side which can outplay the likes of City and LFC.

Unfortunatley I think we don’t have the right (or any clear) values atm as a club, with no clear long term plan, actually a little like Europe in the world of today. For a long time what we did worked well (enough) but we didn’t cease the moment to establish us self as a top top european club, we always lacked the last few feets or inches to challenge Bayern MÜnich, Barcelona, Real Madrid and (it hurts me to say) Manchester United. Instead we lowered our ambitions and that has left us in a little bit of a no-mans-land at the moment.

Viva La Prof
Viva La Prof

We’ve been in transition as long as Caitlyn Jenner

DB10s Air Miles
DB10s Air Miles

But nowhere near as long as manure……. manure in perma-rebuild.

The Kolkata Gooner
The Kolkata Gooner

Hear hear!

Cacio e Nico Pepe
Cacio e Nico Pepe

It’s appropriate for senior players like Luiz and Xhaka to give interviews. The first step to fixing a problem is admitting that there is one (yes i got that from ‘the newsroom’).
That being said it’s time for these players to really step up and show what they’re made of! Tierney for Crystal Palace, please. Perhaps even Ozil? Come on ya Gunners!!!!!!!!

Cacio e Nico Pepe
Cacio e Nico Pepe

actually scratch that, I’m a bit sick of all talk and no conviction on the pitch. But Sundays a new game so let’s goooooo

Samu
Samu

Honestly the chit chat when coming back from the international break was the usual ”page turned, we are third…massive opportunity”…etc etc then BOTTLED IT…AGAIN. It happens every time we start to get on a roll we start talking in the press.

CJay
CJay

dude, Tierney was cramping against Vitoria. No way is he match fit for a full PL game. That said, he does deserve to and should be fit to come on as a sub.

Oregoon

Thanks David, but wouldn’t it actually be in our best interest to have the team set up to win games? After watching these away ties and losses, it sure looks as though we are playing for ties and if we nick a win it really isn’t that expected. I just can’t get Emery’s record at Sevilla out of my mind. You actually have to set up not to win to go a whole reason without an away victory. What is the statistical probably of not getting lucky at least in one game?

A P
A P

It’s good for Luiz to let us know, for I surely cannot tell that from previous matches!

Johnny 4 Hats
Johnny 4 Hats

Hahaha. Yes, you’re right A P. Hahaha. What a funny comment. Haha. Haha. Ha…. Ha.

Vonnie
Vonnie

If the manager wants to win matches he needs to stop setting up the team not to lose them. We are playing negative, reactive football because that is Emery’s philosophy. We bottled the league and the Europa final last season by playing negative, reactive football and we’ve carried on this season.

G-Man
G-Man

Duh…

MonkeyJoe
MonkeyJoe

Ha ha ha title’s with #EmeryOut ‘genius vision’ ha ha ha. Bye bye Top 4, we are miles behind Chelsea and Leicester and heading wrong direction fast. I really hope we lose tomorrow Saints style just to see the back off that slimy fraud. #EmeryOut

Win,lose or draw Emery remains the wrong choice
Win,lose or draw Emery remains the wrong choice

Watching Leicester and Chelsea frustrates me alot… These are teams that have spent less money than arsenal in the last two years and just appointed new coaches in less than 10 months……I’m not trying to twist words here but Arsenal under Emery is destined for commotion…no jokes!

GraeB
GraeB

Chelski were lucky in not being able to spend this year and having to use players keen to show themselves. I wonder how Lampard would handle having to buy big to satisfy fans.

Dave
Dave

Remember when we all said Brendan Rodgers wasn’t good enough for Arsenal.

:’)

George
George

The way we’ve been playing, those two losses are very generous. I hope they realise that and acknowledge that things, the same things, are going wrong more often than not. Our for and against is shocking and it’s not sustainable.

There will be a half dozen more Sheffield Utds if they don’t get it together and fast.

Santori
Santori

Too many deluded gunners always give the impression the club is populated by fools for fans.

Same people who wanted Wenger out said specifically they were willing to give the new gaffer 3 seasons.

Same people now want him gone even if we are still early in season and in fifth.

Some idiots preferred Ole. Mental much?

Others think they know better and now want Ozil back in.

AGAIN last I checked, he wasn’t exactly doing the business for us. His off ball work is particularly poor and as we have seen from recent games, is that what you really want from a player earning in excess of 300K per week?

Much rather Cebellos or (the improving) Smith-Rowe even in the central attacking slot supported by either the forward thinking Guendouzi or Torreira. Granit holds at the bottom. Sure he isn’t perfect (which player is?) but we need the height and extra body in defense particularly with the options we have at Cback.

I don’t think we have at present as many options as some might like to think in midfield.

Willock is still learning his craft and will continue to feature but should be used sparingly and as substitute (god forbid) to GUendouzi should the French man take a knock.

BUT AMN clearly is playing himself out of the first team. All those who like to harp on about “natural position” should do well to remember how careless he is and what that could mean as amplified by last game from a central position.

As for our defense, this whole set piece defending is an issue we have yet to resolve.

Again as to illustrate why Granit is important over Torreira, we had the Uruguayan marking someone twice his height last match. How is that allowed to happen?

Even beyond that, we saw how the zonal system effectively killed us against the Blades. Some sort of combination of the two systems may be key at this point but a bit of common sense maybe on not getting our shortest player opn one of their target men in the box would help.

Also the work out of the back system should take a page from the way Martinez uses the ball. I think the Argentine is slightly better with his releases and decision making playing the ball out and it sends a message to those players in defense and midfield particularly for our europa team, where Leno and company has struggled and are frankly too predictable.

Small steps will put us back on track.

Unai subbing off both culprits in midfield against Vitoria hopefully sets a new precedence and Pepe finally delivering on promise will have to be replicated over coming games.

Meanwhile, some of these fairweather fans should take a rain check and shut it IMO.

They are sooo feeble minded and prey to the slightest negative suggestion in the media (either that or they feed it)

Gunners are some of the worse fans around with all due respect.

Laca New Signing
Laca New Signing

Get off from your high horse and shut the fuck up! Everyone is entitled to their opinions and just because they don’t agree with yours does not make them “deluded” or “idiots”. Who the fuck are you?

John

Arsenal will not enter top four again. Young players need improve a lot. They might need to get some more years for title.