Ex-Valencia boss Marcelino on Arsenal shortlist

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Arsenal’s reported shortlist of candidates to replace Unai Emery on a permanent basis is believed to consist of up to a dozen names.

That’s quite a short list if you’re doing the weekly shopping, but pretty long when it comes to choosing a new head coach.

One of the names that is definitely on it is Valencia manager, Marcelino, who would definitely be interested in the job, but Arseblog News understands he is not especially confident about his chances.

The 54 year old has plenty of experience in Spain, beginning his managerial career in 1997 with Lealtad, and since then has had spells at Sporting Gijon, Recreativo, Racing Santander, Zaragoza, Sevilla, Villarreal and Valencia where he took over in 2017.

He was in charge of them last season when Arsenal ran riot at the Mestalla, running out 7-3 winners on our way to the Europa League final in Baku.

The language may be an issue again, and with at least 11 other names for Arsenal’s Football Executive Committee to consider, he’s very much an outsider.

Meanwhile, Freddie Ljungberg is preparing to take charge of his first home game as the Gunners face Brighton at the Emirates tomorrow night.

Freddie’s ambition to be a transition tactician

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Faxe
Faxe

Spanish manager with experience from various mid table clubs. What could possibly go wrong?

Riku
Riku

1 can speak Spanish to talk to edu& Raul.
2 cheap salary ( kronkie likes)
3 got team back in chl league first time asking

Would prefer ancellotti or allegri or nuno

N10
N10

Riku, Edu is Brazilian and speaks Portuguese as his first language… probably also speaks Spanish but not his first language.

Gooooooonnnnaaaaaaaa
Gooooooonnnnaaaaaaaa

Seriously. Other than the fact that he’s probably “Don Raul’s” mate, what qualifies him for the job?

What a mistake it was letting Sven Mislintat go and making Raul our main decision maker.

Jack Action
Jack Action

But he’s not Don Raul’s mate… Sanllehi’s bud is Jorge Mendes and Mendes was part of the cabal that punted Marcelino out of Valencia because he complained about Rodrigo being sold to Atletico. We’re not signing Marcelino, no way.

Homer
Homer

Perhaps you are right.
The connections, however, are hard to ignore. And I fancy Mendes has more tentacles all over La Liga than anyone really knows.

Mootilated
Mootilated

as a Maltese person whose country is going through political turmoil due to the Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff being appointed because he’s a friend, I can assure you, that’s the worst criteria for getting a job >.<

A Different George
A Different George

My biggest problem with Emery was that he always seemed to set up the team, and the tactics, as if we were Sevilla going into the Nou Camp or the Bernabeu and might, with a bit of luck, emerge with a point. I’d rather try someone whose managerial habits were framed by the experience of winning most of the time. That spans many different types of experience–Allegri with Juve, Brendan Rogers with Celtic, Mikel Arteta sitting next to Pep.

Toni
Toni

I’ve never been on the Arteta bandwagon. Sitting next to Pep doesn’t make you a better manager. I think that’s a big gamble. But Allegri, Rodgers and Nuno have a track record. Arteta sits next to the man with the track record. Big difference.

Man
Man

If Emery doesn’t work. Try Emery.

Gus Caesar
Gus Caesar

Do we think that Raul is just going to work his way through every half-decent Spanish manager over the next few years?

Reality check
Reality check

He’s looking for ‘yes man’. Top coaches have personlity and character they are anything but Yes men..

Wilsheres Middle Finger
Wilsheres Middle Finger

The only Spanish managers I’d like to see taking the job are Pep Guardiola, Mikel Arteta or maybe, just maybe, Rafa Benitez.

I’m by no means fooling myself that Pep is a realistic target, but you know… keep Freddie here until Pep loses his job on the back of City winning nothing this year, then wham bam! Josh and Don Raul make’s him an offer that he can’t refuse.

Caveat: I do realise that I’m completley delusional, but it’s a fun thought.

para
para

I’m not sure Pep would improve this team without monies to buy the type of player he wants. I dont think he is the type of manager that can take a struggling team further, he tends to need stars?

Pat Fried Rice with Egg
Pat Fried Rice with Egg

Emery cloned.

Ennui ball
Ennui ball

Yes Spanish but a consistent coach to be fair to him. He got Valencia back into the CL at first try and the season after. Counter-attacking 442, I’m not sure it’s what we all want to see, but he’s not another Emery.

Twatsloch
Twatsloch

I follow Valencia a bit and they played tidy and exciting football under him. Whether that would translate to Arsenal is another matter.

gus
gus

1.Poch
2.Allegri
3.Ancelotti
4.Nuno
5.Arteta

thats a short list

but raul has his own ideas, the fat shit

The Voice of the Noise
The Voice of the Noise

Ancelotti reportedly on his way out of Napoli.
That would make your top 3 consist of only available managers. Would be pleased with either tbh.

Jack Action
Jack Action

Ancelotti got rid of Ozil when he was at Real. I don’t think that would go well bringing him in.

Homer
Homer

After watching the clown show that is Real Madrid’s management, you really think Ancelotti had anything to do with buying/selling players? Wow, that’s …. yeah.
And, if memory serves, isn’t that the summer Real Madrid splashed cash for Bale, and thus, needing some cash in for FFP? Yes, yes I think so.

Crikey.

Sagebrush Farm
Sagebrush Farm

And he’s made a decent Napoli side average again

SB Still
SB Still

I would put Arteta 3rd on that list, while Freddie is evaluated in the job in parallel.

Runzac
Runzac

Allegri when interviewed 2018 for the job, wanted to bring 9 backroom staff and his english was total rubbish

Gutbukkit Deffrolla
Gutbukkit Deffrolla

No Arsenal Way there then

Martin
Martin

He’s been learning English for some time so it must have improved. That story about the 9 backroom staff is totally untrue. The reason he turned us down was the lack of spending to improve the team. As we showed a bit more ambition last summer you nee know. He would be the ideal choice

Guns&Gooners
Guns&Gooners

Am I the only one who’s not interested in Ancelotti?Yes, he was very good in the past. But I feel like he’s yesterdays news these days.

Would like Pochettino, but I read somewhere that a new club has to talk to Daniel Levy before Pochettino could go to a new club (a clause in his contract until this season is over). Could make it very difficult for us to get him.

Would also like Rodgers, Arteta, Allegri and even Nuno.

My list is:

1. Poch
2. Arteta
3.Allegri
4.Rodgers
5.Nuno

Gus Caesar
Gus Caesar

Personally, Ancelotti was who I wanted when Emery was appointed and I still think he’d be a shrewd appointment. Few have won or experienced what he has in the game and I don’t believe that he’s just become a bad manager overnight. My only issue with him is his age, but even that isn’t a major issue in a game in which managers rarely last 5 years. He’d offer us stability, experience and could mentor the likes of Freddie.

Gutbukkit Deffrolla
Gutbukkit Deffrolla

Poch probably meant it when he said he’d never coach Arsenal.

lessthanthesumoftheirparts
lessthanthesumoftheirparts

Good, him and his gimpy assistants can fuck off

para
para

Apparently he cannot take a PL team as next job?

Martin
Martin

Why on earth would we take on a serial loser like Poch. 11 years as a manager without a single trophy and left Spurs in 14th position. Arteta has never managed any club and Nuno has no credentials apart from improving Wolves. The only 2 who make any sense are Allegri and Ancelotti. Allegri would be my first choice

myrtle
myrtle

Yes, yes, yes and more yes.

Toni
Toni

Bingo!

Francesc
Francesc

Who is his agent? Hope it’s not Mendes..

Jack Action
Jack Action

Nope, Mendes’ tentacles are all over Valencia, he’s tight with Lim, the owner, and it was Mendes’ selling Rodrigo out from under Marcelino that got Marcelino publicly upset, criticized the ownership and then turfed.

Homer
Homer

I just posted a “tentacles” comment about Mendes not 2 mins ago. Not having read your comment here.
Cleary, you are right ! 🙂

Prakhar
Prakhar

I am afraid its gonna be a Spanish guy just because Raul’s “connections”. Only Spanish coach I am willing to take right now is Arteta.

gooner
gooner

Fabregas = Fran Merida.

I’d try Pep, Rafa. point is Emery failed big time but no guarantees any Spanish manager would be more Emery than Pep based just on their passport.

Imagine 1996 Arsene arriving after this saga we’ve been through?
I’d be underwhelmed but who knows?

Rob
Rob

Arteta haha only managed one game in his life and lost.

truj
truj

True, but he lost only one game in his entire career.

Ealing
Ealing

100% record

Iain
Iain

No thanks

Post January Blip
Post January Blip

Yes, but how many poos is this worth, Blogs?

ClockEndRider
ClockEndRider

I couldn’t give one

Zadok
Zadok

I prefer Don Quixote to Sancho Panza. The latter is stupid realist, the former has a feverish aspiration. Sancho tends to say: “We need to gain confidence.” I want to hear some Don call out: “we will smash that team!” I fear the new brand Sancho is going to emerge!

Zadok
Zadok

I prefer Don Quixote to Sancho Panza. The latter is stupid realist, the former has a feverish aspiration. Sancho tends to say: “We need to gain confidence.” I want to hear some Don call out: “I shall vanquish the red devils” I fear the new brand Sancho is going to emerge!

Zadok
Zadok

Second version 🙂

Stuey
Stuey

Can you imagine Sean Dyche managing Real Madrid?….same.

jw1
jw1

Now that– is making a point quite clear.

gee
gee

definition of mid table manager. Rather stick with Freddie.

Acheivements to date: Segunda División: 2005–06
Copa del Rey: 2018–19
La Liga Best Coach: 2017–18
La Liga Manager of the Month: September 2013, September 2015

he actually has a worse record than emery. Raul really needs to go if this is the caliber of candidates. Nuno etc are mid table coaches at best. I was under the impression GG and the AW made us one of the big boys.

we are 3rd most successfull club in the English football history behind only Man Utd and Liverpool, we should act like that.

Richie

I don’t want another manager who can’t speak English, which rules out Marcelino and Allegri for me.

Sully Taylor
Sully Taylor

I don’t want another manager who cannot communicate effectively. Smart coaches can still relay their ideas without having a complete grasp of a language.

Gutbukkit Deffrolla
Gutbukkit Deffrolla

Smart coaches have smart translators who understand football if they don’t speak the lingo.

jw1
jw1

A: Bring in another Spanish-speaking manager w/translator.
Q: How to lose this team’s attention quickest?

WTF Raul?

Avo1
Avo1

Can we call ‘a dozen’ shortlist?

Oregoon

Yes. What really is this? Is there any plan in place, or do we just want to turn over everything to a “manager” and then try to control him? (sound familiar) More troubling than who is on the list, is the flipping length of the list itself. They sound have had a list months ago. Do these guys actually have a clue?

Oregoon

Sound out should in above.

Peter Story Teller
Peter Story Teller

The plan is we will have a dozen managers to explain to the five captains what we want Leno to do!

rellends
rellends

El Moyes Mk2.

Goonerjae
Goonerjae

The Arsenal board are smoking crack

Seb
Seb

Sanlehi out! We need a manager who speak in English. I prefer at least Sam Allardyce than Marcelino.

Swifty
Swifty

I think you’ll find Sam Allardyce only speaks Walrus.

Seb
Seb

sorry if I hit you but I just wanted to say that we needed a coach who speaks English and who knows the Premier League and if Sanlehi wants a Spaniard like him, at least he calls Rafa Benitez.

215Arse
215Arse

Seriously?

Teakster
Teakster

Good ebenings are here again

Vonnie
Vonnie

This is very underwhelming and probably fake news, but if Arsenal are really interested then Sanllehi needs to go.

Gutbukkit Deffrolla
Gutbukkit Deffrolla

Sack yourself Sanllehi!!!

Guns&Gooners
Guns&Gooners

No. Just no.

Danno5

This guy sounds a shoe-in for our Board’s mid-table aspirations.

Robstar
Robstar

Arsenal fans are upset that some bloke may or may not be on a shortlist. What we know is there is a shortlist but at the same time there may not. Arsenal fans will be mad either way. They are mad at any report about Arsenal at the moment even though it hasn’t been fact checked. It just came from a guy called “Gud Sauce” so it must be true.This constant rage at things that might or might not be is being called noise – of course Arsenal fans are upset it has been called this. They will also be mad at this post.

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

Marcelino would be yet another underwhelming appointment. A mediocre fifty-something Spanish boss who’s never worked outside his native country and apparently doesn’t speak much English. No thanks.

Isn’t it incredibly sad that the club has fallen this far? Whatever happened to that beautiful club sited on the Avenell Road? I’ve been an Arsenal fan since the mid-Seventies. When I first stood on the North Bank we were a club that was absolutely drenched in character; we were “the Bank of England” club; more of an institution than a sporting body. With Old-Etonian Denis Hill-Wood as Chairman and our famous marbled hall we were the club that almost every other envied. We may have been “boring Arsenal” but we were as classy as hell. We used to have a marching band on the pitch before every home game: how many other clubs did that?

And the club instinctively knew that Arsenal FC was about everybody. If you could afford it than you could buy expensive season tickets for the East or West stands; but for working-class supporters the games were easily accessible by just paying cash on the turnstiles at the North Bank or Clock-End terraces. Everybody was welcome, and the people from the local council estates as well as the better off would all gather together on a Saturday or a Tuesday to worship together at the temple of Arsenal.

Most importantly, the club was about winning. The owners were in it because first and foremost they loved football. They had a deep understanding of the game and the history of the club, and wanted to make their own history. A burning desire to make Arsenal Football Club as successful as it could possibly be on the pitch was what drove Hill-Wood and the board. The fans knew that, so even when we were rubbish they kept coming, hoping for improvement. And eventually we enjoyed great times, first under George Graham, then spectacularly under Arsene Wenger.

And now this.

The club is now completely owned by a man who has absolutely no love for football. A man for whom Arsenal Football Club is just a financial asset; for whom success is just a few numbers on a balance sheet. And the people whom he employs are outsiders who consider what they are doing as just a job. This club is rotting from the head down and it’s tragic. Working-class fans have been priced out in favour of wealthier “customers” and the club has lost its soul. Any hope of on-the-pitch success has been stymied by the culture of mediocrity that has been promoted by this owner. We are an empty shell of a club that exists to simply make money. We’re like one of those creatures in a zombie movie that looks like the human it used to be but is really an empty, soul-less husk, mindlessly roaming around. We have no future under this ownership.

Sad, isn’t it?

btw
btw

and I thought I had a negative outlook. Have to agree though, also true for most English clubs. That said, the difference between the structure at Arsenal and Liverpool is small, yet the difference in ambition is huge

Oregoon

Liverpools shows that not all American ownership is fabric destroying. However, at Liverpool the owner is a risk taker and a sportsmen, while ours is a real estate developer/accountant.

truj
truj

It’s a beautiful and passionate prayer for our beloved club. Thank you! I am a foreigner fan, never been to the temple, but completely understand your feelings. But we made and we are making this world “together”.

joey deacon
joey deacon

And the Hill-Wood family sold the club to the Kroenkes.

Tony Hall
Tony Hall

In fairness it was Stan or the russian, I mean what a choice, both awful

Tony Hall
Tony Hall

That was really well said and 100% spot on. I remember the marching band, I even remember one day the conductor failed to catch the baton and the huge roar that went round 🙂

#define
#define

I don’t understand the fascination with Arteta. He is a secondary manager of a team stocked with top talent , with some success. Liverpool has lesser talent (IMO) and is ahead of them. Our team is better off with a manager who can help us punch above our weight. Plus he doesn’t have a readily available team of coaches. If anything , it would’ve made sense to bring him in before we appointed Emery. Are we willing to wait another 1+ years for consistent results (If at all) ?

jw1
jw1

If you want to take a swing at Arteta?
Name Arsenal’s next savior in the next breath.

Rich
Rich

1. Pochettino
2. Rodgers
3. Howe
4. Arteta
5. Benitez

Our new manager must speak English, and have some level of experience inside the PL.

Ennui ball
Ennui ball

Zzzzz use your imagination ffs

chepetin
chepetin

Was thinking the same to be honest. We keep seeing the same names on the carousel. Part of me wants to bring in a high profile type manager but I don’t see us meeting a large release or perhaps being able to attract that type in the first place, especially as there will likely be some big jobs available in the summer. Another part of me wants to take more of a risk and bring in an up-and-comer.

A guy like Lucien Favre ticks a lot of boxes for me because his teams play an exciting attacking style and they move the ball around the pitch quickly. He develops younger players and importantly, his teams are very well organised. I think that these are three things we need in spades right now.

Sergio Conceicao is also interesting to me. He’s had success with larger and larger clubs. He’s managed for 10 years now. Maybe it’s time for him to move to a larger club now? As a player he worked his ass off and was a handful to deal with. When on the right wing he attacked and tracked back to defend and did both well. If he could get our current squad to play like that I think we would see some good results.

I know that these guys aren’t household names but if you research them a bit you’ll find a lit of the qualities that I think we need today as a club.

Jack Action
Jack Action

Fake news. Marcelino was run off of Valencia by Jorge Mendes who is tight with the owner Lim. There’s no way Sanllehi would bring him in and risk upsetting Mendes. Also – he hated the idea of Valencia as a selling club – when we sell off next year’s Iwobi, what’s he going to say then? He’s not on the shortlist. This is just slight of hand.

Zet Yeo
Zet Yeo

NO NO NO!!!

Alan Sunderland's Mighty Perm of Justice
Alan Sunderland's Mighty Perm of Justice

Emery light.

Great idea.

To be honest I can’t see this happening so don’t worry.

Homer
Homer

Raul running the show now.

Isn’t he the one who forced out Sven Milasinat (sp.)?
Isn’t he the one blocking David O’Leary from joining the Arsenal board?
AFC looking at another La Liga manager… (IF the rumor is true – big if.)

Its highly possible (even likely) that all these effed decisions properly laid at his feet. Yes, yes, we can all rail on about Silent Creepy Stan, and his son Josh-Josh. But Raul is the fulcrum for all this foolishness so it seems.

Alan Sunderland's Mighty Perm of Justice
Alan Sunderland's Mighty Perm of Justice

I’m leaning towards Ancelotti. Has prior success in the PL. Good at organising a defence. He makes his players train hard. He’s a bit of a disciplinarian.

Which is probably why he’d flop at Arsenal. I did say he’d be my choice. I doubt the players would enjoy getting a kick up the arse for smiling and joking after defeats or not putting in 100%. They’d probably stop playing for him.

Still, I think it’s about time we got a no nonsense coach with defensive know-how, experience of winning the EPL and of taking no shit when players aren’t taking things seriously and putting in the effort.

truj
truj

And do not forget Attila Pintér “Pinyő”!

Alex
Alex

I don’t agree the list is long. Many times in my life have I been surprised by a product that I “thought” I didn’t want for ages – until I tried one. I’m perfectly happy the team is willing to open discussions with a wide group and I think it’s their responsibility to include a couple of wild cards in their deliberations.

Leon
Leon

Lets remember.
Arsenal do not take into account tactical or technical ability or whether they fit the philosophy of the club or even whether they can do the job that is asked of them.
Arsenal’s criteria is:
1. Are they unemployed.
2. Will they command much in the way of salary.
3. Will they make much in the way of transfer demands.
Marcelino looks like the kind of person who would simply be happy in a job.
Verdict:
Perfect fit for Arsenal.
I have zero hope that Arsenal will do the right thing…
I hope Nina Bracewell Smith and the other money grabbers burn for what they did…

kas
kas

Sounds like the ‘Watford’ model!

John
John

Marcel who?

Santori
Santori

There have been so many (unsurprising) potential managers linked to us by each and every tabloid. why focus on this chap specifically?

Most of the managers have even less to recommend them then Emery if I were to be frank and cut the bullshit.

As mentioned before, we have an option to likely assess how Llungberg is doing in a couple of weeks toward end of December.

If he is holding his own, then we may keep him to end of season for better options in the summer and a second assessment of his continued performance.

However if he is not able to turn us around by end Dec, then we are correct in assessing at very least short term caretaker bosses that can carry us till the summer.

The top end managers in Ponchentinno and Allegri aside from unlikely to come to us will probably require extensive contracts.

Therefore it is more than likely we are assessing cheaper and more maleable options but with managers who may carry more risk.

One manager currently available, that may carry more heft and has plenty of experience of course is Benitez.

Come summer, IMO we should be looking at Erick Ten Hag the Ajax boss.

BUT we need to have potential managers in our pocket till we can get to the summer and if we continue to have issues even with the less experienced Llungberg.

Its a very tricky time for the club.

As I mentioned repeatedly when many were clamouring for Wenger’s dismissal, as much as it can get better, the situation can also very much get worse.

If we do not get the next appointment right, it will further destabilise the club and affect some of the more senior players.

Easy to say get rid of a manager but reality is very different when it comes to where we are as a club now and who we can really bring in to effectively propel us forward.

Its wait and see at the moment.

meanwhile all these rumours will continue to churn.

Abhi
Abhi

God no

Santori
Santori

I think we need a more direct game.

To many more facile minds, anyone will do.

Arteta for example. No worry that he is under tutelage of Pep and will likely play similar tactics to Emery but with poorer resource and assets than City.

Viera (again purely more from sentimental space than lucid thinking) has had a poor record in a poorer league.

Complain about language issues with Emery but jump on Marcelino someone with equal if not worse language issues not to mention less illustrious CV.

Too many people have their head up their arse and do not live in reality.

N10
N10

#RaulOut

5thgen
5thgen

I can’t recall many gooners calling for Rogers to be our manager last time out. Something along the lines of…no way is he good enough for Arsenal. Now he seems to be all the rage. I remember suggesting him and getting so much abuse lol.

We have to remember we are not a big club anymore. That will take many years to achieve once more. Liverpool are on their way to a first league title in 30 years, and have always been a much bigger club than us.

Arsene who?
Arsene who?

Ange Postelogcou? Former Australian National team coach who is producing miracles in japan with unfancied Yokohama marinos in the j-league and playing really entertaining football. Barring an unlikely result, they lift the league title this weekend. Ange who? From Japan? Sounds like a familiar recipe for success…

baz00r
baz00r

As an Aussie I have a lot of respect for Ange. Every team he has managed has been entertaining. Maybe the Arsenal job is one step too far too soon, but I would love to see him ply his trade in England.

Yankee Gooner
Yankee Gooner

Maybe the short list got switched with the captain’s list?

02ba
02ba

Paddy v and Freddie should do us.

Oberon
Oberon

Only thing I’d want from Valencia would be Kondogbia.

The optimist with little hope
The optimist with little hope

He’s a decent coach, but a bad fit. He’s also a prickly character.