Friday, April 26, 2024

Arsenal and Benfica to face-off in Rome and Athens

Uefa have confirmed that Arsenal’s last-32 Europa League double-header with Benfica will be played in Italy and Greece due to Covid-19 travel restrictions.

Benfica will be the home side for the first leg at Rome’s Stadio Olimpico. The match will be played on 18 February at 8pm.

The Gunners will then ‘host’ the second leg in Athens at Olympiacos’ Georgios Karaiskakis Stadium on 25 February. A kick-off time is yet to be confirmed.

Obviously, it’s sort of amusing that even when Arsenal aren’t drawn against Olympiacos we still get to go and play on their patch.

So Rome and Athens, if we lose on away goals while playing on neutral territory it’ll be both comedy and tragedy.

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Jacques

Can we use Mkhitaryan and Sokratis on away and home fixtures respectively?

A M

mkhitaryan especially, he’s been brilliant since he left

Spainicus

For free… did he start that trend?

Dave Cee

No, we did when we turned our noses up at 10M last January..another great sales decision!

Man Manny

Rome! Beware the ides of February. Artetus.

Futsboller

Ah, settings for comedy and tragedy — nicely done!

Biggles

On balance, I think it makes sense to have the two games. With our PL form apparently collapsing (again!), it is looking unlikely (not impossible, but unlikely) we’ll be able to get an automatic EL qualifying place via the league this season. Having two ties at least doesn’t put everything regarding possible/eventual European qualification down to a single 90 minutes, which I suggest on current form would be a tad risky. Benfica certainly won’t be easy opponents – far trickier than anything we’ve had in the campaign so far – but failure to get into Europe would be a big… Read more »

Fezec

At least with two legs we have less opportunity to Arsenal* things up. *To Arsenal. VERB formal To find a method from a position of relative strength or superiority to lose the upper hand or capitulate “Arsenal, leading 5-0 at half time, made the unorthodox decision to substitute Bernd Leno for a packet of Jammy Dodgers. This in on itself was not the most bizarre action of a second half in which it became apparent that David Luiz had subtly replaced himself with a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man and Mikel Arteta substituted 4 goal hero Bakayo Saka… Read more »

BillyKrystal

Everyone keeps saying that a one legged tie is better for us like it’s indisputable. Why? If we’re happy to have 2 chances at winning it then so will Benfica. To me it makes no difference. We’re just as likely to screw up a 2nd leg after 1st leg victory as we are to screw up one game. We’re also just as likely to win one game convincingly as we are over 2 legs.

BillyKrystal

Sorry, meant that everyone assumes 2 legs is better

Five_a_Side_a_Day

To misquote Orwell:

“1 leg bad, 2 legs good”

Funnily enough, our club feels more like Animal Farm with each passing season. Kroenke makes a passable Farmer Jones and Raul, Napoleon. Perhaps Freddie was Boxer.

Whoever was in charge, I think they treated elements of the fanbase like the farm’s sheep for too long. Perhaps, one day, we will all gather at the director’s box window and spy them morphing into one another and realise that nothing ever really changes.

A Different George

The theory is that luck, or a single bad mistake, or a single moment of brilliance, can decide any match. The more matches you play, the more that will balance out and the side with greater quality ends up ahead (why we have won FA Cups, without ever challenging for the league). It’s the same reason that the better team wants a perfectly kept pitch and good weather: the less part chance plays, the more likely the better side wins.

BillyKrystal

That’s assuming we’re a superior team to Benfica. Oddsmakers say we aren’t, at least not in the first leg. And even without that, our unpredictability makes us equally as vulnerable whether it’s 1 or 2 games. We’ve got a good record of winning big one-off games, I maintain it’d be better for us. Not least because it’s one less fixture to play a long way from home.

Man Manny

Better or not, it doesn’t matter anymore. It is going to be a two legged affair, period.

ASH

In Wenger era, we used to consider these teams as cannon fodder.
At least, we have our Arsenal back.

Murphy was an Arsenal Fan

You know, if it came to that, they should have just settled things with a bunch of FIFA games, best of eleven.

Al Gilmore

Should’ve been a one off game but then there would be less matches for TV.

jimbo

should there even be european football this season? seems stupid but money talks

Tommy Gunner

You make an interesting point about the away goals rule. The rule sucks at the best of times, but surely it would be an absolute travesty if any tie which has required a change in location gets settled on the away goals rule? I wonder if UEFA have looked into this?

Man Manny

Why would they have to play twice if there are no ‘home’ and ‘away’ legs?
UEFA will certainly stick to her rules as it doesn’t really put any side in the disadvantage.

GraeB

No, they’ll only look into it afterwards and make decision for it to not happen again in future – much as playing a final in a country no-one can actually visit.

Playing twice as many ties that involve twice as much travelling at a time where travel is restricted worldwide is plain ludicrous and merely shows that EUFA is only interested in TV money to further feather its bed.

Crash Fistfight

I see you have spotted the trend of any good changes happening after it doesn’t benefit Arsenal any more. I appreciated these as well:

-We spent years having to go through qualifying rounds to get into the CL when finishing 4th. The first time we finish outside of the top 4, the 4th placed team qualifies automatically.
-We couldn’t play Aubameyang in the EL because he was cup-tied. The following season, the rule is abolished.

No doubt the rules will be changed so that accidentally fouling someone doesn’t result in a red card anymore.

Itina ria theenge

The Greek tragedy awaits, no doubt

Qwaliteee

I’d rather watch The Oresteia at the moment than Willian wistfully jogging around to another Arsenal defeat.

Pat mustard

Did Willian shag your wife or something? Every single article you are posting the same thing. Get some new material.

goonshow

No – but he’s royally shagged our team

Qwaliteee

That clearly doesn’t bother Pat Mustard.

How dare you write nasty things about his beloved Willian.

Dave Cee

He misses his little Ozil lamb to lament about

Thomas89

Am I alone in thinking this is just an absolute farce! Didn’t we have issues with COVID after playing Olympiakos, and yet here it is a safe neutral venue.
We shouldn’t be bothering with international competition in the current climate

Andy

Just another example of the ludicrous self importance of elite football clubs. We are in a global pandemic so, I know, let’s travel across Europe not once but twice, just because we can.

Medium Mozart

Being such a forward thinking club, we’re apparently trying our best not to bother with European competitions next season too.

Qwaliteee

If Arteta plays Willian in both legs and the remaining Premiership fixtures, we certainly won’t have to worry about European football next season.

Sean

Fully expecting to be slated for this but I don’t understand why people are so adamant these games shouldn’t go ahead. Aside from the news grabbing headline of Arteta first contracting it, really think about covid’s actual impact on the sporting world. These events continue because elite level sport has massive amounts of money thrown at ‘covid safe’ protocols, probably more sophisticated measures than any other profession. Add in the fact athletes are perhaps the lowest risk group of all adults (havertz is the only example I can think of who had anything worse than a very mild or asymptomatic… Read more »

btw

The whole concept of a neutral venue is flawed. Benfica can’t come to England because they might be exposed to new COVID variants -but we can send our players off to rub their sweaty bodies together with Benfica’s players -then return to England without any quarantine? It makes no sense.

Qwaliteee

Everything about this club is a farce these days.

Tomaury Bischfeld

I’m sure both legs will be classics.

Qwaliteee

Comedy classics.

Anders Limpar

The “home” and “away” thing is typical UEFA farce. Surely a one off winner takes all, at a neutral venue, makes more sense in these exceptional circumstances.

Nacho de Montreal is tasty

Away and home elsewhere but no away goal concept is a better solution.

Medium Mozart

So, just to clarify, this effectively means we’ll be scoring away goals closer to home, than we would if we were to score at ‘home’ due to being further away than when we’re actually away?

Let’s just hope it doesn’t go to penalties…

That’s a fair amount of travelling. And in the two Sunday’s following these two games, it’s matches against teams in the top three; Leicester and Man City.

There’s going to be some squad rotation needed, and this would be a good time for Willian and Ozil to score their first goals of the season for us.

Anders Limpar

Yeah and Chris Wreh could do with breaking his duck for the season as well

Up4GrabsNow!

“Riding along on the Christopher Wreh” – one of the classics!

Anders Limpar

The absolute unsung hero of the first Wenger double!

Christopher Wreh

Glad to see I’m still in the minds of fans. I still look back on my goal at Bolton with fondness, and so does Blogs, seeing as he posted it on YouTube

https://youtu.be/6A6uwtlYeMs

Andy

It was a beIter mate. Guincamp’s loss was Arsenal’s gain.

Dimma

I met christopher wreh once. He was a really nice guy. Lee Dixon was a bit of a nob

A Different George

The way Willian has played, I think it’s a better chance that it’s Ozil.

Andrew B Mostovoy

Let me see if I understand this… we’re sending an English team to play in two of the most violently insane firms’ back yards?

GraeB

Fortunately with no fans travelling

Ozzie

Why not play both games in the same venue? In the same week?

Think of the Covid risk reduction by a factor of about 200 (the number of individuals travelling) and the carbon footprint you’d save.

Oh yeah forgot, that might affect the “sporting integrity” of the tournament. Thanks UEFA.

Timorous Me

Is Hector still planting his trees? I hope so. Better win both of these legs just in case.

GraeB

Yes and what happens if Italy and/or Greece get added to the “Red list” of countries for quarantine in the same way as Portugal?

TeeCee

You are Mystic Meg and I claim my five pounds.
Brazilian strain now in Italy, so Italy is quite likely to be on the red list shortly.
What would be a disaster would be if such a change were to happen while the team was there…!

GraeB

You reckon Mike Dean might be in charge of that too?!

goonshow

What a profligate waste of money in times when ordinary people face losing their businesses and/or jobs!\
Why TWO different venues in different countries? ‘Neutral’ is neutral – play the bloody tie over two legs on a Tues/Thurs or a Fri/Sun a la Emirates Cup if you must have 2 legs. That way – teams fly into ONE city – go into the bio-bubble for 4-6 days, get it done and fly home…
This cockamamie plan is double the costs, double the time and logistical hassle – and double the infection risk to both squads.

Hoffsstuntdouble

Well said.

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