Tuesday, December 6, 2022

Transfer tittle-tattle: Bowen, Raphinha, Tavares, Mari & more

The summer transfer window officially opened on Friday, Arsenal signed a player today and with the latest round of internationals coming to a close, we’re expecting things to hot up on the rumour front.

Here are a few of the latest…

Jarrod Bowen
🛬 West Ham
Source: The Beautiful Game Podcast

Newly capped by England and shortlisted for the Premier League Player of the Season award, it’s clear that Bowen is a player who is going places. Right now, it’s hard to imagine West Ham selling the attacker and even if they did consider it, you’d expect them to command a whopping fee. If we’re on the hunt for a Pepe replacement, this one feels out of reach.

Poo-o-meter: 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

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Raphinha
🛬 Leeds United
Source: The Telegraph

There were whispers of interest in Raphinha earlier in the year but those seemed to die off as the likes of Barcelona and Bayern Munich came to the party. He’s clearly a decent player – 11 goals and three assists for a struggling Leeds side was no mean feat last season – which is why he could cost as much as £50 million, nearly on a par with the Gabriel Jesus fee in whom our interest is concrete. Do we have the funds for both? It’s hard to believe.

Poo-o-meter: 💩💩💩💩💩💩

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Giovanni Simeone
🛬
Hellas Verona
Source:
Tutto Mercato Web

The 26-year-old striker scored 17 goals in Serie A last season while on loan at Hellas Verona from Cagliari – form that has attracted interest from Juventus. We don’t know much about the lad, aside from he’s been kicking about in Italy since 2016, seems to score a goal every three games and is valued at €20 million. He’s also the oldest of Diego Simeone’s three sons. We’re taking this one with a big pinch of salt.

Poo-o-meter: 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

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Granit Xhaka
🛫 Bayer Leverkusen
Source: Mirror

Given how much Mikel Arteta respects Granit Xhaka’s leadership qualities, one imagines the Spaniard would prefer not to lose the Swiss this summer even if a deal for Youri Tielemans is completed. While we’ve no doubt several clubs will be sniffing around the 29-year-old, talk of a move to Bayer Leverkusen seems premature, even if they can offer Champions League football.

Poo-o-meter: 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

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Bernd Leno
🛫 Fulham
Source: The Athletic

Having already recruited Matt Turner as back-up to Aaron Ramsdale, it’s no secret that Bernd Leno is on the lookout for a new home. With the German eager for regular action but settled and enjoying life in England, a taxi to west London fits the bill nicely. The big question is how much cash can we rinse out of the Cottagers. Leno’s agent has confirmed the interest while simultaneously bigging up his client: “Fulham is trying hard to get Bernd. Very professionally. This is also true for some other clubs and shows his status. But, as I said, for me he is the No.1 at Arsenal and we are therefore also relaxed.”

Poo-o-meter: 💩

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Nuno Tavares
🛫 Atalanta
Source: Corriere della Sera

Although rumours linking Aaron Hickey with Arsenal have died down in the last couple of weeks, it wouldn’t be a surprise if Mikel Arteta were to bring in another left-back this summer. Despite making a strong start to the season you sense the head-in-hands chaos that Nuno brings to matches just isn’t what the Spaniard is after when Kieran Tierney is sidelined. Whether that appeals to Atalanta is up for debate. As Blogs referenced this morning, the Italian side now counts on Lee Congerton as their Head of Senior Recruitment and he once wanted to bring Nuno to his former club Leicester.

Poo-o-meter: 💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

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Ainsley Maitland-Niles

🛫 Nottingham Forest
Source: Mirror

Ainsley returns from six months in Italy and nobody is any the wiser as to his best position on a football pitch. In between extensive spells on the bench, the 24-year-old played across the midfield as well as at right-back last season and, it’s as the latter that newly-promoted Forest seem to be showing an interest. Steve Cooper’s side are on the hunt for a replacement for Djed Spence, whose impressive loan move from Middlesbrough has likely earned him a move to a more established club. With only a year left on his deal, Ainsley is probably available on the cheap as well.

Poo-o-meter: 💩💩💩

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Pablo Mari
🛫 AC Milan
Source: Corriere dello Sport

Pablo must have done something right to have the champions of Italy looking at him following a productive five-month spell with Udinese. While the defender hasn’t given up on an Arsenal career, the return of William Saliba *should* force him down the pecking order. At 28 we imagine he won’t want to return to the role of benchwarmer which, of course, given Milan’s resurgence, could also happen at the San Siro. Would a move like that appeal? Tough to say.

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LoonyLeftie

Exciting times.

Sagebrush

But Liverpool got Nunez, Spurs Bisouma and Perisic. Seasoned competitors. Are ever going to e able to sign a known?

Qwaliteee

Sober up and try again.

Naked Cygan

Looks like it will be a shitty transfer market.

Qwaliteee

It’s not even July yet.

Jeeez…. 😂

Yankee Gooner

Thumbs down for missing the poo-o-meter pun!

Qwaliteee

Ok, I’ll own that one.

In mitigation, there are a lot of other genuinely impatient comments being thrown around in this thread.

Naked Cygan

😂 😂 😂

Naked Cygan

Bye tottingpam just signed our target bissouma from Brighton ffs

TeeCee

But was Bissouma our target, or just reported as such by the bullshit merchants?
Did we make an official offer?
Were personal terms discussed?
Etc.

Qwaliteee

In a word, no. Bissouma is a good player, but hardly the last word. No great loss. And by signing for that lot, he’s just ended any chance of adding any winners medals to his collection. I think, as Arsenal fans, we all know that we’ve got bigger fish to fry this summer, but hey, it’s the transfer window silly season – where Saka, apparently needs to be moved to central midfield (when we’re not being forced to sell him this summer) Jesus played on the wing, despite our need for a striker – and now a protest march needs… Read more »

Bluetooth

Arsenal never wanted Bissouma. Only fans were dreaming about that. Arteta probably wants other positions filled first. Plus there is the matter of his assault case pending as well. That put off other teams including Chelsea.

Besides it probably went between Tielemans and Bissouma. Who would you have preferred is very subjective.

Qwaliteee

Get Well Soon.

Henkamp

Thought we were told that Arteta and Edu already planned the summer transfers and we have identified who we want? Things look to be dragging on as usual.

Wouldn’t be surprised if someone snags Tielemans while we dither.

Goonerrific

Yep. 3 days in and we haven’t signed anyone yet. What a useless bunch of bastards. 😂😂😂

Johnny 4 Hats

That’s true.

Marquinhos isn’t just anyone.

Heavenly Chapecoense

Now that we know that there was no offer for Vlahovic in January, what will we know about Gabriel Jesus in September?

Frog In Ze Room

Nothing . His stats are underwhelming. Really hope he is not the striker we’re after

Martin R

Dithering? The window has only just opened.

The Pommy Gooner

dithering is strong given it’s been only a couple of days. It also assumes we know what all the targets are, when I bet we know one, maybe 2 of the options at best. The club isn’t announcing who we are going after

Sagebrush

We were linked to Nunez for a couple of weeks leading to the window. He has since gone to Liverpool

Qwaliteee

😂

Kevin Albone

Can’t expect the Tielemans deal to be done while he is playing for Belgium. If it isn’t done by the end of June them we have cause to be concerned.

Dimma

Do most arsenal fans think tielemans would be good for us? Im not really sold on him tbh but interested what others think of him. I think that he wont really take us that step up we need. Im not saying hes not a good player but i would like to see someone a bit better really.

Frog In Ze Room

Im a fan since Monaco. He had really improved especially in consistency. Great technical ability, Vision and work rate. The one I’m not sold on is Gabriel Jesus , his stats are really poor for a man who plays for a team creating 40 shots on targets each game.

Simon

I wonder if we have got this wrong and that in order to replace Laca, Pepe and PEA we wont just sign two strikers with one of them being the guy who actually starts most on the wing – that chap being Jesus. Thinking this because fairly decent and repetitive stories have linked us to a bunch of more traditional number 9’s and Gabriel Jesus. Noticed as fans we also assume that the starter position in Arteta/Edu’s mind on both sides is a current player be it Saka or Martinelli/Smith Rowe and I am not sure that is the case.… Read more »

Qwaliteee

You think Arteta is fighting tooth and nail to ward off other clubs and sign Gabriel Jesus…..to then stick him out on the wing…..? 😂

There’s definitely a reason why the transfer window is referred to as ‘The Silly Season….’ 🙄

Charles Charlie Charles

FFS. First we have people wanting Saka in central midfield, now you want Gabriel Jesus for us on the wing, when we already have Saka, Martinelli, ESR and the new lad we’ve signed this week. It’ll be Xhaka in goal next.

Johnny 4 Hats

Sorry about being off topic guys. But I want some advice. I am still really struggling to process and accept the end to this season just gone. You might have noticed that I haven’t been present in the comments for some time now. And the reason for that is I’m still genuinely absolutely gutted – like wake up in the morning and remember what’s happened and feel terrible sort of thing.  I’ve been trying to figure out why in an attempt to start the healing process. What’s weird is I definitely wasn’t this distraught when we lost the Europa League… Read more »

Justsayin

Its Arsenal. Its been like this for many years now. When Leicester won the league, when we lost Europa final with Emery and just made it outside top 4. Last season with Wenger.

I am done hoping about the big things and more «trusting the process». It’s a long way back to the top but we’re getting there, slowly and not so steadily. Arsenal is like the turtle, but drunk, and still had a chance to win the race.

Tucker

I’m sorry that you feel like that, and I completely empathise, like Arsenal results/going-ons affect me far more than I think they should. And the end to this season was really really tough to take. Like whenever I see an Arsenal clip advertised on YouTube, or even play as Arsenal on FIFA haha, I have a pang of massive disappointment. This might not be helpful and might be completely obvious, so please tell me to fuck off if so, but the way I get around it is by telling myself that there physically isn’t anything I could have done to… Read more »

Teryima Adi

Life is full of ups and downs. The only time you see a flat line on that machine that monitors your vital organs especially after a major operation is when you’re dead. We move and keep hoping for a better season (seasons). Cheers

Kostas

I strongly believe that this kind of disappointments work beneficially for the hunger of our top-talent youngsters.
It feels like a spring that is compressed before unleashed

Goonerrific

It’s the hope that kills ya, as they say.

Man Manny

What you need to do is to think of doing something that would set your heart racing in excitement. You could think of writing a book, or getting a new degree. If you are an entrepreneur, it might be how to take your business to the next level. If you are on a job, you may think of what to do to get a raise or become more valuable on the job. All in all, such feelings as you describe thrive on the oxygen of attention; idleness of mind is a fertile ground for the attention to fester. They cannot… Read more »

Fatgooner

I feel exactly the same way, Johnny. I’m pretty sure that the reason you and I feel so bad is that we both know this was a golden chance that we absolutely should have taken. With no European football and only PL games from early January, we had no excuse not to get at least 4th. Everything was in our favour. But we spectacularly blew it. And you and I both know that we won’t get top-four next season either. Things will be much harder, with United, Chelsea and Spuds all improving. And the incompetent management team of Arteta and… Read more »

gooner

” And you and I both know that we won’t get top-four next season either. Things will be much harder, with United, Chelsea and Spuds all improving” The thing that amuses me most is the fact that the same people that gave arsenal no chance of getting near the top 6 last season were the same disappointed in the team not sealing top 4 and gave it no credit for being there in the first place. And they are definitely seeing no chance of us getting top 4 because the competition “will improve” while “we won’t” Come on Fats, every… Read more »

Charles Charlie Charles

That 7+ people agree with you is even sadder.

N10

The Toxic Positivity Crew, aka the Arseblog dot com commentariat, will have none of your limpid, crystalline, cold-eyed realism, FG.

38 downvotes and counting, but to us leathered veterans, you speak the sincere and galling truth.

A tiny hope—infinitesimally small—is that the House of Walton-Kroenke will get bitten by the “League Champion” bug (LA Rams, now Colorado Avalanche) and invest for UEFA cup tournament success.

N10

QED

Qwaliteee

“Toxic Positivity.” 🤔

Eboue

What an absolute load of tripe that is Fatgooner. I swear you think it’s still 2004, our only competition is Man U. It was disappointing to miss out on CL, but to say that was our best chance is nonsense. We are not a mid-table team, we finished 5th and only a point or two off 4th place! We have the youngest team in the premier league and after years and years of bad signings and high wages for old past prime stars, we finally have a streamlined team with an obvious direction of travel. We have a team jam-packed… Read more »

cannon and ball and arse'n'all

As I said to Johnny above, I can totally understand the disappointment, but I don’t think that we should dwell on how the season ended and be overcome by gloom. I think I recall chatting with yourself many moons ago on the old Arsenal-land forum (I was Hereford Gooner back then), and if that was you (also called FatGooner) I remember you leaving the forum because you were so down about the team – I felt the same. But for me the current situation is far from sad, it is actually very exciting. We have some serious talent that will… Read more »

thankyou22

I am sorry to hear that you feel this gutted about it. We all are sad but I sense that the disappointment you feel is greater.
IMO, if this persists further as the transfer window progresses, please consult a professional.

Naked Cygan

Just accept we are shit. We have a manager learning on the job and Spurs got a better manager. Our players are soft and this has been an issue for a long time. For some reason mentally we bottle every big game. Time for a top quality sports phycologist. Just accept we are not good enough and don’t buy into this hype and you will be OK.

Charles Charlie Charles

“Phycologist”…? You can’t even spell it!! 🤣

Bleeding gums murphy

For me it’s because we absolutely blew it. It’s also because I never deep down felt like some did and still don’t. Im not fully convinced with Arteta, I feel he got so much wrong. I do want to be wrong. The bottom line for me I guess is I don’t trust him so I can’t fully buy into what many seemed too last year. If we had not blown it I might of joined the positive vibes more in the hope of this coming season. Unfortunately I have grave concerns that Xhaka, nketia, taveres will be on the same… Read more »

The Beast

Mate, genuinely sorry to hear you’re feeling shit. Can’t say I’m feeling the same atm but I’ve def been there & it happens to the best of us.

Just my 2 cents but, in my experience, it’s never solely about football. What usually helps for me is just avoiding football chat completely & focusing on literally any other hobby/interest until I start feeling a bit better.

Hope you’re feeling better soon man.

Goodly Morning

Dear Jonny, Sorry to hear that you are feeling so rubbish about the end of the season. There’s been some sound advice on here about it possibly being related to other things and seeking support from professionals. Depending on where you live this could be a GP or counsellor. Football is a very big part of many of our lives and it can get quite intense being a supporter. I’ve seen on here recently that people say it’s the hope that hurts so a bit of pessimism can help manage expectations but at the end of the day there is… Read more »

Cyril

Hey Johnny, I would recommend taking a little break from the football, switching off from the transfer talk, ignoring the fixture release later this week- we know the games are going to look difficult on paper. Recharge the batteries and we will go again. On the disappointment at the end of the season, personally for me there was an inevitability about the collapse at the end of the season, I was a little surprised we got into the position with our fate in our hands after our back to back wins against Chelsea and Man Utd yet those away dates… Read more »

johar

Yeah Cyril. Quite right. Johnny should go to the cricket, get pissed and chuck a few empties at the boundary fielders. Always does me the world of good. Unless of course he lives in Ukraine, in which case he has every right to feel miserable.

Giuseppe Hovno

Ah dude i reckon it’s combination of having s team that you really could get behind and then that team losing to spurs and then also losing forth place to spurs right at the end of the season. They had the chance to write some classic arsenal history but they failed in a v painful manner, with no time to redeem themselves but instead a whole summer to dwell on it. In terms of compartmentalisation, I find my mental health suffers if I don’t get outside, do some exercise, or do some gardening, or rambling. enjoy the time off from… Read more »

Boff

We must all keep our feelings in check a little. Football is a game, played by millionaires, and controlled by folks who have more money than any of us. It’s entertainment. Period. I’ve been a Gooner since my dad took me to Highbury when I was 10 years old. That was 65 years ago. I now live in Canada and watch the Gunners whenever I can. I am still an avid fan… BUT! It’s entertainment. It’s not life or death. Best advice is not to get too high or too low with your expectations. Support your Gunners whether they are… Read more »

gooner

It’s really sad imagining what you are going through and I think nobody here can tell you how to get over it because we all react differently. This can easily get out of hand and lead to proper depression if not properly handled but if there’s something you remotely enjoy or you did before this crazy season then you can try it out often. Not sure it’s that simple but spending more time with friends, family, taking a morning jog when you are feeling down etc, anything to get your mind off it. We are less than a month away… Read more »

Pat Fried Rice with Egg

Hang in there.

I’d say that the massive disappointment you feel is mainly because this young team created that expectation in the first place.

Focus on the positives. We go again soon with a new season. That’s the beauty of it.

Qwaliteee

Mate, as I said elsewhere in another post, when you look at how we were hit with injuries, suspensions and (whether you agree with it or not) the choice not to replace Auba in the January transfer window, it’s nigh miraculous that we made 5th, just two points shy of fourth and put a considerable gap between ourselves and United in 6th. Spurs have two top attacking players in their absolute prime at 28 and 29 – it’s downhill from now on with those two. We, on the other hand, had to patch up with Cedric, Tavares, Elneny and a… Read more »

Merlin’s Panini

It was particularly gutting that it fell apart right at the end and that it was Sp*rs who got lucky at our expense. I did feel we had already lost it when we had those three really poor losses in a row, which helped compartmentalise it as well as not having expected us to get 5th at the start of the season. It’s all part of being a football fan. For me no season has been more painful than 1994-95. 12th place and losing two European finals (super cup and cup winners cup) was heartbreaking. I was 11 years old… Read more »

Heavenly Chapecoense

Me, I vent and it works for me. Tell my son: “Jeez just three games to go, four points ahead and this bunch of ne’er-do-well couldn’t do it” then I go get a beer. Love the game and love this club.
Heard some would just tell their son: What do you call Tottenham?

Andy

Sit back, put your phone down and watch the 2003/4 season highlights.

Charles Charlie Charles

Cheer up mate. Imagine being one of that lot up the road. Relying on two players that have peaked and hitting 30, to win nothing, put them in a competition they have zero chance of winning and the dvd inducing gap that is a colossal two points to keep their trophy-dodging name ahead of us. Just.

cannon and ball and arse'n'all

Hi Johnny, always enjoy your posts and general humour and enthusiasm.. What I will say is this, as a gooner of 30+ years I have seen plenty of ups and downs. The end to this season was crushing, but I have to say that the malaise is no way near what it was in the period around 2009 and onwards for several years. During this period there was so little to be excited about and it was pure decline. Right now, although it was disappointing to miss the opportunity for the CL spot, I feel really quite excited about our… Read more »

Mulla

Mate I totally get you, I’m in a pretty similar position but you have to take some positives from where we were and where we are now. The very fact that we even built up some hope this year after years of utter shite is encouraging. Trust me though, I am so gutted and I live in Australia so watching Arsenal means getting up at stupid o’clock week after week regardless of the result..but honestly, this was the first year in years where I somewhat enjoyed watching Arsenal. So much so that I flew over and got the Leicester game… Read more »

Johnny 4 Hats

Guys! Thank you all so much for these! Really helpful and insightful. Massively appreciate those who took the time to respond.

Gooners are the best!

xxx

Qwaliteee

Now, get this down your neck.
🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
Cheers! 😊

FREDDO

There is still talk from Italian rags about Juve being interested in swapping Arthur for Partey. I know everybody thinks Arsenal wants Tielemans as a middie but I note that Partey is the second highest wage earner at the club (200,000 pounds a week) and has spent a lot of time in the treatment room. He is definitely a better player than Mo Elneny at his best, but I suspect that, judged over a long season, Mo Elneny, who is rarely injured or out of form, is much better value.. Elneny costs about 50,000 pounds a week. Juve, because of… Read more »

FREDDO

The trade also works a lot for Juve because a swap lets them avoid a capital loss on Arthur and get a fresh play and, when Allegri goes to sleep at night, he dreams about registas who looks and play exactly like Thomas Partey

FREDDO

Apologies – now that Auba is gone (is he gone?), Thomas Partey has the highest salary at the club.

Freddo

I may be onto something: Yahoo sport.
Partey eyed by Juventus07:37 , Marc Mayo
Even with Paul Pogba set to arrive, Juventus are seeking further improvements to their midfield with a move for Thomas Partey.
If the Italian giants can shift Arthur Melo, Tuttosport claim they will focus their efforts on Ghana star Partey.
The newspaper even claims that the Gunners will accept a players-plus cash deal for Partey involving Arthur.

SMH

I rather we go for Bentacur. When Spurs scooped Bentacur of Juve, I was gutted why didn’t we went for him. He and the other guy they signed in Jan is the reason why they are above us.

Freddo

If we had signed Arthur as we should we would have easily got third. But management refused to provide any money in the Jan window.

Berlingoon

That Arthur that barely started a game for a poss poor Juve side, you mean? Yeah, sure.

Freddo

Yup, I’m talking about the Arthur who played for Brazil – THE Brazil – in March.

Berlingoon

He played exactly 13 minutes for THE Brazil since 2020.

TeeCee

If that was because he was injured the rest of the time he sounds like a perfect fit for us.

Berlingoon

Nope, that was mostly down to him just being not good enough. Made the squad 2 times since 2019. Played one game over 90 mins in 2020 and was a late substitute in a 4-0 victory over Bolivia in 2022. His market value dropped from 70 to 18 mio over these years as well.

Freddo

You forgot to mention that he has played 22 times for Brazil. It’s clear he doesn’t fit in at Juve. Totally unsuited to Allegri’s vertical style of play. Like most players, he needs a compatible coach (Arteta) and a compatible system (Arsenal) to shine.

Freddo

But you only have to watch him to see that he is a wizard on the ball.

Berlingoon

I haven’t forgot to mention that. It‘s just ages ago and there‘s a reason for that. And it‘s not that all the coaches at club and international level since haven‘t seen how good a player he actually is.

Freddo

You should analyse players with your eyes rather than your ears. Your theory doesn’t work anyway if Arteta wants Arthur.

You can see his press resistance from 8m into the clip. Ice-cold and head-up when pressed in the middle of the park. Not many players are like that, even at the very highest level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOtx844N8lg

Bluetooth

If they give us £70m then sure. Since that’s the least of what it would cost to replace Partey. And no thanks to Arthur. Why would any fan think it would be even a half decent deal.
It’s good that Arteta rejected the 2 years loan offer lol. Juventus just want to dump the guy anywhere they can. Arsenal have been stuck with unwanted players far too often recently. All the more reason to avoid it.

Freddo

Partey costs an eye-watering 200,000 pounds a week, plays only about half the games, and will have almost no transfer value in a year or two. Zero. Juve might be able to pay his salary because of favourable Italian tax laws (but might not). I would GIVE him away if there was no other way to remove his wage bill. As for Arthur, all of the successful modern sides CONTROL the ball. Arthur is a master of control. He has massive ball security and good passing. Without a midfielder who provides that platform, Arsenal is going nowhere. It may not… Read more »

BobTheGunner

Jesus, Tielemens and a Raphinha.
GET IT DONE EDU !

Charles Charlie Charles

*keep

Berlingoon

Is there any chance that the negotiations with Bukayo aren’t going as well as expected and Raphinha and Bowen would be possible replacements in case he doesn‘t sign and we‘re forced to move him on in order to avoid the risk of losing him for a bargain fee next summer? 😬🫣

Qwaliteee

😂

Berlingoon

What‘s funny about that?

Qwaliteee

You, thinking that we’d be forced to move Saka on.

First you want him playing in central midfield, now you’ve got us forced to sell him.

Keep ‘em coming mate. 😂

Qwaliteee

You should write for The Daily Mirror. 😜

Bleeding gums murphy

😂😂

Berlingoon

What kind of complex do you have that you are constantly going on a personal level as soon as someone has a different view on things than you? What‘s so hard about a discussion where you say: I disagree with you for reason a,b,c without trying to ridicule someone or calling him stupid? If you don‘t manage that, please just don‘t reply to my comments anymore because it‘s brutally annoying to waste time with guys like you.

Bleeding gums murphy

The words pot kettle and black spring to mind when you have got personal many times on here.

Berlingoon

Don‘t even know your name so I don‘t think we‘ve ever discussed anything on here but sure, I‘ve called you names or something similar. Must have been me sleepwalking on here.

Charles Charlie Charles

Or sleepwanking

Charles Charlie Charles

Complex? People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Charles Charlie Charles

Haha. Brilliant. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Vonnie

Everything 😂

pescetarian

Dunno, but we should be accepting whatever our little chilli is asking for.
The thought’s crossed my mind too since reading about those two…

Berlingoon

Didn‘t said I wanna sell him. That seems to be too hard to understand for some. But the reality is he wouldn‘t be the first player who doesn’t want to commit his future to us and IF he doesn’t sign now, with 2 years left on his current contract, there‘s a decision to be made. Looking for alternatives in case that happens sounds like a sensible idea. Rather than waiting till mid september, then realise he won‘t sign, just keep him for another season because we don‘t have a plan B and then sell him for cheap next summer would… Read more »

Qwaliteee

The reality, mate, is that none of us know what is going on but the fact that Saka hasn’t signed yet (it’s June FFS!) doesn’t necessarily mean that he won’t. Maybe he hasn’t had time to sit down properly to discuss this with Arteta yet? Maybe he is winding down from his recent Internationals? Maybe he’s still waiting to see who we sign? It could be any of those things or none at all. We none of us know. What we do know is that it is very early in the transfer window, he has two years left on his… Read more »

Berlingoon

I have with no word said that I think he won‘t sign. I just said that it would be a sensible thing from the hierarchy to be prepared for every possible scenario. And that one of the highest rated youngsters in the Prem if not Europe COULD be tempted to sign for a club that guarantees him CL football every season instead of committing long term to a club that hasn‘t managed to qualify for the CL for more than half a decade now, wouldn’t be something extraordinary. And IF he doesn‘t sign, we can‘t let it come to the… Read more »

Qwaliteee

Mate, go back to the top of this thread and read what you originally posted – which was to insinuate that there was a strong possibility that we would be forced to sell Saka THIS Summer – which is absolute rubbish.

If you make ridiculous comments, expect a reaction from those of us on here who are level headed enough not to waste time filling up this page by theorising about things that clearly aren’t going to happen.

You’re the one with the complex, pal.

Berlingoon

From where you got this STRONG possibility stuff? I just said, could it be possible that rumours about Raphinha and Bowen have anything to do with the fact Saka hasn‘t signed a new contract yet and Edu is thinking about a plan B, IF this won‘t change. And I have very calmly explained to you why it would be a big risk to wait for another year to see if he signs eventually when you could write off about 50 Mio transfer fee if you don’t qualify for the CL again next season. How do you know that this clearly… Read more »

Qwaliteee

Oh my days. You’re slagging off the club and saying “it would be foolish to wait until next summer to see if he signs” WHAT IF THE PLAYER IS ACTUALLY REFUSING TO SIGN AT THE MOMENT AND WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT SUMMER….?! We can’t force the lad to sign this summer if he doesn’t want to, simple as that. If I was Saka, I would be wanting to wait to see Who the club sign this summer What their effect on the team is next season Where the club finish next season Whether or not we have Champions League… Read more »

Berlingoon

So you‘d wait until he only has 12 months left on his deal and hope we‘re playing CL by then and if not sell him for peanuts next summer or even accepting the risk of losing him for free the season after?
Brillant. Absolutely brillant idea! 💪🏻
Can you leave me alone now, please? My brain hurts.

Qwaliteee

Your brain hurts, my old son, because you can’t understand simple market forces. Whether or not Saka continues to play for Arsenal Football Club beyond his contract is Saka’s choice – it’s HIS CHOICE – not Arsenal’s! Of course I would offer him a ten year contract extension right now!! Which self-respecting Gooner wouldn’t? How do you know the club haven’t offered him a contract extension already? They probably have – repeatedly. But it means NOTHING if he doesn’t want to sign it, either today or next year or the year after. We could offer him a contract extension every… Read more »

Berlingoon

I always understood it. That‘s why I said the club should be thinking about all possible scenarios and one of them is: does it makes more sense to sell him this summer, if he doesn’t want to commit without CL football, or do we wait for another year and possibly lose our most valuable player for peanuts next season or for free the season after, because we don‘t manage to give him what he wants in order to sign that contract. It rather seems that you have some understanding problems here. Additionally to your problems in accepting when someone repeatedly… Read more »

Qwaliteee

I would imagine that Edu and Arteta have been thinking about all possible scenarios without your expert brain hurting guidance.

In fact, if you can’t hold a simple online discussion without your brain hurting, then perhaps you’re the one with the problem that require help.

Good Luck

Berlingoon

THAT was the start of the discussion. If the rumours about these players could have anything to do with them thinking through possible scenarios.
No my brain hurts because you aren‘t replying to anything I actually say but try to twist my words into something you think you can make fun of just because you seem to be a bored and bitter dude.

Qwaliteee

“Does it make more sense to sell him this summer”

Erm….no? 😜

Berlingoon

Again, so you would be fine with us accepting the risk of not making top 4 (which I a big risk considering our competitors) and then being forced to sell him for a cut price next season?

Charles Charlie Charles

Who said we won’t make top four? Who said anything about a cut price? Saka is one of the best players in the world. Do we stand a better chance of making top four if we keep him now or sell him now? Hope that last one isn’t too painful for your brain to work out.

Berlingoon

I didn‘t say we won’t make it, I said it‘s far from guaranteed.
And if you don‘t get that the market value of a player is significantly lower with 12 months left in his deal than with two years you shouldn‘t speak about hurting brains.

Berlingoon

Apart from that, as the guy with the ”quality” comments already said, we don‘t know why Saka hasn‘t signed yet. Maybe just because he wanted to concentrate on his football first and now where the season and the internationals are over for a while, he‘ll sign. That‘s still what I think is most likely and obviously what I’m hoping for. But maybe he wants to wait and see if we qualify for the CL first. And maybe that wouldn‘t even be enough and he wants to play in a team that‘s aiming to win the CL instead of one hoping… Read more »

Qwaliteee

There you go, Blogs.

Arsenal to sell Saka this summer – as Berlingoon suggests that they seriously consider…

Poo-o-meter.
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Charles Charlie Charles

No, you didn’t ‘always understand it.’ You suggested that Arsenal consider cashing in on Saka this summer, which is about the dumbest thing I have ever read on the site. And that’s saying something.

Berlingoon

So losing him for peanuts next season because we‘ve actively decided to let it come to the point where he enters the final 12 months of his deal , sounds like a very intelligent option for you then?

Charles Charlie Charles

Has it ever occurred to you that Arsenal have already tried, been turned down and simply have no choice but to wait? Do you honestly think that they haven’t already tried to persuade him to sign an extension? If not, then thank God you’re not in charge of the transfer negotiations. City, PSG and Chelsea would have had you on toast by now and we’d be without our best player.

Berlingoon

I haven’t suggested anything. I just asked if rumours about Raphinha and Bowen could have anything to do with the fact, that they fear Saka won‘t sign an extension. Which – for people who can read – would suggest that I of course think they have already tried and are still trying to convince him to commit his future to us. We know for fact that contract talks started months of not even years ago. But as the wise fella above me explained to me so well, it‘s not in our hands. MAYBE Saka wants CL guarantee, which would be… Read more »

Berlingoon

The fact that I know for sure they tried and he turned them down several times already is the reason we‘re having this discussion. 🤦🏼‍♂️

John C

I have nothing to base this on but my guess is if we are interest in Jarrod Bowen it would be because he has a release clause.

I mean if West Ham want £150m for Rice they’d want something prohibitively stupid for Bowen as well and we wouldn’t be interested at all.

Manny

They missed an opportunity to buy bissouma typical.

Mayor McCheese

I can’t understand why we didn’t go for him. Anyone?

Vonnie

Bissouma lost his chance at Arsenal because of his off field behaviour. Arsenal are never going for a player who was dragged out of a nightclub in handcuffs on a sexual assault charge. He was bailed for months and although the whole case died down and maybe he wasn’t guilty it’s not a good look. It’s a reason his value has apparently plummeted and a lot of clubs ended their interest.

Mayor McCheese

Interesting. How didn’t I know about this?

johar

Never heard of Google either?

Charles Charlie Charles

Because we don’t need him? Because he’s shit? Because we’ve identified better players to sign? Take your pick.

YoungGun

Don’t think Arteta saw him as the type of player he wants. Must be nice to see your club get their business done early though. I want us to go into a season where atleast a couple of our targets can get some good pre season games in.

Berlingoon

Arteta want‘s to play with a 6 and two 8s. Partey is the 6. Ødegaard one of the 8s. Bissouma surely not the other 8 and too expensive for a Partey back up. So what‘s the point in signing him?

Mayor McCheese

That’s helpful, but Partey is unreliable in terms of availability, and Bissouma is better than Sambi and Elneny.

Anyway, it’s fine. I get that we need to prioritize other positions, and we don’t have unlimited funds.

kas

Yes typical, January cost us big time. Spurs get 2 players in we get 0, now they’re in the Champions league. They sign Perisic, now Bissouma next Spence and so on. While our ‘so called leaning on the job duo’ do nothing. But then again the news that ‘Vlahovic’ new nothing about Arsenal’s bid in January, says it all. The Krankies are happy for Arsenal to just bring in cash for them and show no ambition.

Baz

Yawn. Why don’t you go have a nice big cry about it

Jean Ralphio

Raphinha in and Pepe out would be hugely attractive

Partey in the back

Rumors are that West Ham is looking to bring in Emmanuel Dennis from Watford. Only 24 years old, and valued at less than $9M. Why don’t we look to bring him in for squad depth? Would leave a lot of money for a 3rd striker (Jesus?) and he could also back up Saka.

johar

There are absolutely loads of exciting players out there. For example, Lois Openda, who scored 19 goals for Vitesse last season, on loan from Club Brugge. Just broken into the Belgium squad. And only 22 years old. What are we waiting for?

gOD

Arsenal lacks ambition…know that and know peace. This is a money grabbing establishment not one met for trophies or honour.
The biggest clubs doing their transfers early is surely a sign of the situation of the market and coming season with the World cup in November.
Clowns 🤡

jon

Small margins were decisive in Arsenal missing the CL. Benjamin White’s injury at the end of the season was fatal. Rob Holding is not good enough as a backup. We either need a new, very good central defender, or we should keep Mari, who is better than Holding.

Qwaliteee

I don’t suppose you’ve ever heard of a chap named Saliba……?

And Mari better than Holding…?

😂

Charles Charlie Charles

Saliba?

arsenal4ever

I see many arsenal fans excited about Gabriel Jesus. I genuinely want to ask, as I’m not sure, how does he differ from Alex Lacazette. I must say I’ve never given too much attention even when seeing him play live, and I know that he brings work rate and an intense high press. But other than that, only looking at the stats (I know that’s a bad way to look at things), I do not see much of an upgrade. Why the huge hype then? Checking for their stats on transfermarkt I see that: Gabriel has played 159 premier league matches,… Read more »

Qwaliteee

https://youtu.be/oFNhc-9ukOY

Mate, make yourself a coffee/grab a beer, sit back, relax and feast your eyes on this….

The differences between Gabriel Jesus and Lacazette? Where to start?😂

  • He does headers
  • He does diving headers
  • He can run
  • He can hold the ball up
  • He can shoot
  • He can dribble
  • He can assist
  • He can score
  • He understands Arteta

Apart from that, he’s useless 😂😂😂😂😂😂

arsenal4ever

I really hope that he is as explosive as that highlights reel suggests and that he hits the ground running and lights it up.

Truj

Edu can book cheap flights.

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👍: Maitland-Niles, Raphinha
👎: Torreira, Tavares

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