Man U 8-2 Arsenal: By the Numbers

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Tim from 7amkickoff here, utterly speechless at this point so here are some numbers:

1896 – Last time Arsenal allowed 8 goals in a game (Loughborough Town (a) 12 Dec 1896 Lge Div 2)
2001 – Previous biggest ever defeat under Arsene Wenger (1-6 Manchester Utd (a) 25 Feb 2001 Lge)
2 – League goals scored by Arsenal so far this season
10 – League goals scored against Arsenal so far this season

15 – Minutes straight that the Arsenal away fans sang “We love you Arsenal”

24 – Shots by Man U
14 – Shots on goal Man U
14 – Shots by Arsenal
8 – Shots on goal by Arsenal
2009 – Last time Arsenal allowed 14 shots on goal in a League game (4-4 Liverpool (a) 21 April 2009 Lge)
2011 – Last time Arsenal allowed a team to create 24 shots in a League game (4-4 Newcastle (a) 5 February 2011 Lge)
1 – Number of League games that Arsenal has created more than three shots on goal this season
18 – Points Arsenal has earned in 17 matches since the Carling Cup collapse (DDDWDDWDDLWLLDDLL)

4 – Penalties Howard Webb has awarded refereeing three Arsenal matches at Old Trafford (2 each)
0 – Webb penalties Arsenal has converted at Old Trafford
3 – Consecutive League matches Arsenal have been shown a red card
13 – Days before Arsenal can get another red card

226 – Passes by United in the first half
202 – Passes by Arsenal in the first half
560 – Passes by United at full time
430 – Passes by Arsenal at full time
100 – Percent chance I’m boring even myself with this inanity

9 – Goals scored by Robin van Persie in his last 12 games
2 – Consecutive matches that Robin van Persie has scored a goal
2 – Consecutive matches that Theo Walcott has scored a goal
4 – Goals scored by Theo Walcott in his last 5 games
1 – Assists by Carl Jenkinson this season

Qq

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indrossi

Make it stop.

Bob the Gunner
Bob the Gunner

i need a beer…

Bunburyist
Bunburyist

Hi Tim.

I feel sick.

Kamran

Bunburyist, join ja606!

Ringie
Ringie

Funny how Arsene didn’t use the usual “young team we have” explanation for the loss…..cause we had the same average age as utd today….
Hard to see that he just won’t by quailty and experience to mix with the youth.
It’s just so frustrating to see us fall apart at such a quick pace :(:(:(

Bunburyist
Bunburyist

United and Arsenal fielded teams of roughly the same average age, but when you compare the cost of those sides, there’s no comparison.

United have invested in quality youth. Arsenal have invested in League One.

And it shows.

jay
jay

this quote pissed me off… today it felt like it was true:

“Average age of today’s starting 11s: Man Utd 23 v Arsenal 23.6. Quality youth vs Average youth. The Arsenal myth exposed.”

Kamran

Join ja606!

down we go with wenger
down we go with wenger

i hope this is a wake up call for wenger. its embarassing. i wasnt expecting a win but i definately would not take a trashing against our old rivals. i beg someone at the emirates do something quick. this will give a signal to other teams that we can be easily beaten.

Spamhead
Spamhead

I knew this was coming. My prediction was a repeat of the 6-1 from 10 years ago. Hopefully, this will finally convince Arsene that we need to spend big, otherwise it’ll be us and the Spuds competing for Europa League. If we’re lucky!

GM
GM

The only thing that makes the defeat a little bit better is that Spurs also took it up the arse yesterday. Downward spiral for both clubs and I fear soon enough the North London derby will be an affair as devoid of quality as all those midland Derbies.

RobM
RobM

The board should speak to Arsene tomorrow and tell him that at the end of the meeting the board are making a press release.

Whether its his resignation, his ‘promotion’ to the board or his firing is up to him.

Our teams have had the same failings for a long time with no improvements and his behaviour in this transfer window bring a whole new level to the word “inept”. Enough is enough.

Johnny Massacre
Johnny Massacre

I can’t understand people who say sack Wenger and don’t say who to replace him. If he is sacked now, what on earth are we going to do?

RobM
RobM

Well right now, I’d say just about anyone.

bakarr
bakarr

At the moment anyone is better than Arsene

Bunburyist
Bunburyist

…but getting Squillaci back after the break will be like a new signing.

BAAAAARRRF

Gervinios Forehead
Gervinios Forehead

Kronke is a CUNT… The board are tight sphinctered CUNTS..
Eerily similar to the going ons at the mugsmashers during the Gillete/Hicks period…. Another greedy yank cunting a premiership club…..CUNTS!!!!!

Lord Teddy Ears
Lord Teddy Ears

you speak the truth

mtomto
mtomto

G=A=S=H

AvenellRoad
AvenellRoad

Easy to say “spend some fuckin money”. But good players don’t want to come to a team that gets hammered 8-2. Unless you tempt them with city-money, which we don’t. Not expecting any super-players. But some useful additions should do.

ack ack ack
ack ack ack

the chant should be “SHOULDA SPENT some fuckin money” because we weren’t in this position 2 months ago – this mauling was abjectly embarrassing, and you can’t say we didn’t deserve it. we all knew what the problems were back in may, and not only have we not addressed them, we’re weaker in those AND other areas. and we will we not just have serious problems bringing in new players, but if you were RvP, TV5, etc… how much longer would you feel like sticking around?

keith
keith

i think all us supporters who pay money to watch that crap should march on the club asap wenger out

f4phantomphreak
f4phantomphreak

Wow 8 goals, 8 goals, no matter how many times I say it or think it, it just doesn’t seem real, does it?? I simply cannot believe even if he does buy that with only 3 days left that he’ll get anything close to top quality, wow 8 goals…. So whats next, do we really have to lose our CL spot for someone to wake up at AFC?? Will it take RVP and Theo leaving next summer?? What is it gonna take for someone their to wake up and realize that there is something seriously wrong with the way this club is run… I for one think it falls at Ivan G’s feet, he is the one that is suppose to go out and find what this club needs, and up to this point he has failed this club miserably, oh it also falls on AW’s feet as well, he is not squeaky clean by no means, BY NO MEANS!

Danish Gooner
Danish Gooner

Would Arsenal have been skint if they had bought players like United,off course not.We have wasted millions upon millions on second and third rate dross.When United paid 25 mil for Rooney,Wenger said we couldnt afford him but 6 months later we spunked almost 15 mil on Antonio Reyes.

Dennis
Dennis

wages.

Den15
Den15

New signings, proven quality signings or write the season off completely and potentially end up in the footballing wilderness, even Liverpool have spent £100m in the past 12 months and they aren’t going to do better than 4th at best.

We need to spend just to keep up, The club can’t rely on financial fair play – it just won’t ever happen.

Kenny
Kenny

1. Straw that broke the camels back

Dennis
Dennis

wages?

Jordan
Jordan

Fans deserve a bit of transparency. Is there money available? If so why hasnt it been spent etc etc etc etc

Paulo

Wenger has already said he gets a bonus based on profits. There you go.
Having said that no same manager could turn a blind eye to our shortcomings. I believe there is more than meets the eye in all this. The board are to blame, don’t think they are making the cash available. They need to go and rich Arabs come in. Otherwise we’ll fall further and further behind, as I don’t think the new rules on sustainability will make much difference.
BTW Dojourou is crap!! The guy needs to stop clubbing and concentrate on his trade or he’ll be playing for Leicester.

keith
keith

muck and worse of all i have to go home and the lad who lives next door is a man scum fan might move out

MrT
MrT

1,000,000 – the number of years we wil be shit until we get rid of Kroenke and this god awful board. Don’t turn on the manager, the owner and board have got to go.

Gervinios Forehead
Gervinios Forehead

Agree… The board are CUNTS…. doing to us what Gillette/Hicks did to mugsmashers….

Anton
Anton

See, I told you lot that the game was close…

Breezy
Breezy

close to a cricket score

MrT
MrT

worst result for 115 years – says it all really.

silent stan to fuck off

Jake
Jake

Credit to all the gunners who sang like we were up 8-2, and silenced out the manu fans from what i could hear at home on the TV. Fucking brilliant, and we are gonna need that spirit in all of our games if we are to pick up this club.

Wilshere tweeted: I heard all the Arsenal fans singing! You my friends are a fucking (excuse the language) inspiration to Arsenal Football club and i love you.

Result was a disgrace though, and something needs to be done within the next three days.

oldhasbeen
oldhasbeen

Wenger has 3 days to save his job. Nothing less than 3 top class signings will do – a CH, a LB and a midfielder (Cahill, Baines, Arteta?)
Crap like Squillaci, Almunia, Traore and Chamakh must NEVER be seen in an Arsenal shirt again.
Kids like Jenkinson need time to develop.
Djourou is at best a squad player.
Arharvin needs an ultimatum – do the business of face the next 3 months in the reserves.

MJG
MJG

Gazidus out! Kroenke out!

Fucking incompetent greedy useless cunts.

MJG
MJG

Gazidis out! Kroenke out!

Fucking incompetent greedy useless cunts.

Abhishek
Abhishek

8 number or goals scored by united, number of first team players missing today. That’s an easy explanation monsier Wenger. Spend the fucking money. Watching Arsenal today was like watching your wife getting raped. 3 days left to make it right. Over to you Arsene.

Dazgeezzy
Dazgeezzy

Buy some fucking player….. Excuse my French!!! But I’m really pissed off today cause I thought if we had a good team out there….. We could of give them a run for their money they were there for the taking….. Till Young scored just after VP missed the pen….

keith
keith

same shit worse day 6 years of wenger lies if u were in a job for 6 years and not getting the tools u needed u would leave right not lie for your bosses wenger runs that club from top to bottom and thats the prob he is a football manger he should not care how much something costs if he needs it to make his team better it should be done

Gervinios Forehead
Gervinios Forehead

One of Wengers weakness… loyalty to his paymasters…. The greedy CUNTS! Sack the CUNTING board! F’ing yank cuntbiscuit… By Wednesday we will all know the boards intentions…

Tee-O 9
Tee-O 9

I agree, I see Wenger right now as just a puppet of the board. We saw what happened to Keegan at Newcastle when he revealed his dissatisfaction with Mike Ashley & Co, then all of a sudden he resigns. So it’s really the board which need to go, because fair enough if Wenger leaves we’ll have a manager with new ideas but no real freedom under the money lovers who seem to care not an ounce about the fans. We need a board which sincerely cares about Arsenal. Someone like Dave Whelan at Wigan, a genuine footy man, who promised his fans premier league football and took them there from the 3rd division (league 2). I genuinely miss David Dein, he cared about the club. We need someone to replace him.

Jody

Are we really gonna get to Wednesday without a decent signing. This summer has been nothing more than a disgrace. I’m really beginning to think there is something strange going on in with the board and the money. I don’t know what, but i can’t think of any other reason for so many blatant very bad decisions thoughout!

polihuduga
polihuduga

Despite everything all the negativity that surrounds us at the moment still believe (go ahead and question my sanity if you like) that it it will be us and Liverpool competing for 4th place, jenkinson as shown a lot of promise in the few games that he has featured in and was played out of position, song who was one of our stars in midfield in the CL games was out, Diaby and the nuisance quotient that his legs bring were missed tonight, not to forget wilshire, so yes, while this result isn’t truly representative of the quality of our side we looked far from convincing, but we can always take solace from how terrible some of the other sides are even when the play full strength,play for fourth place, ensure CL and plan for next year and yes SPEND SOME FUCKING MONEY while you are at it.

micky readman
micky readman

i was allways told if you have nothing good to say……

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keith
keith

going to get drunk and wish i found a hot tub time michine to head back to a happer time 1998 hum

DAVE
DAVE

Wenger MUST reveal his restrictions to buying/refusing to pay high wages by the board. This is a similar situation to Liverpool when the two Americans were ripping their club apart but Rafa got all the blame instead. Same is happening at Arsenal where the board are against each other but, as Wenger cannot do his job properly, Arsene gets all the blame. So for those who say sack Wenger also name his replacement because I assure you Wenger haters he is doing more than one job at Arsenal, he not just a football manager like when he was when Dein was at the club. Six years without a trophy = No trophy without Dein. Also it is a disgrace that Stan Kroneke has remained silent since he started investing in Arsenal, where is the money from the cllub really going? All gooners must demands answers from the board & the answers must come from Kroneke. Coincidentally non of Kroneke’s club’s go on to be a major success in terms of winning trophies, they just make a lot of money for his own revenue. Is Wenger really to blame since Dein has left? Arsenal’s current board are inactive and lazy by making Wenger do most of the work. The board’s vision is to keep Stan Kroneke happy (financially).
When Wenger said of not expecting anyone to leave and not selling Cesc & Nasri a few weeks ago he wasn’t just answering questions but was also stating to the board (& kroneke) what he wanted – not wanting/expecting his players to be sold.

Gervinios Forehead
Gervinios Forehead

Agree wholly… The board are CUNTING US OVER…. Fans need to stop letting the yank cunts pull wool over their eyes… wake up, realize what’s going on, organize & take back our club.

Popeye
Popeye

On official site wengers was asked about wages. The more you piece this together the more that Internet report about arsenes hands being tied and at odds with the board makes sense maybe it ain’t his fault and he’s going for players that the board will let him rather than those he nos he needs but can’t pay the wages … No apologist for wenger see previous posts but a strange question to ask and to answer just after

joakal
joakal

Never thought it would get that bad… did anyone notice where anderson was standing for *both* of rooney’s freekick goals? noticed szcz smiling at him on the first one, obstructing the keepers view and helping the kicker line up the shot? surprised we didn’t learn from the first one but… when it rains it pours I guess.

I know there will be a tidal wave of Wenger out now… but really, who is going to come in? and I have a hard time putting all the blame on Wenger, the board is doing what right now??? I don’t think anyone is expecting us to suddenly spend 50mil on 1 player, but just now we aren’t even spending enough to have a full squad, can’t possibly believe that Wenger thinks he is going to win with half a squad, undoubtedly something strange going on within the clubs management and I’m not sure there is any way to know who is to blame or what’s really happening. I don’t fault any of our players efforts, right now they are being hung out to dry by terrible management.

Good-Bloke
Good-Bloke

0 – Percentage chance Wenger will still have his job by Christmas.

1 – way ticket for that fucking mute yank cunt, that is currently bleeding us dry.

Breezy
Breezy

while agree that new signings are needed, are problems are much deeper then that, we need new coaching and fitness staff. why on earth do we play such a high line when it clearly leaves us exposed is beyond me, it didn’t work last season and is not working now (there’s a shocker). Some serious changes are needed with the our whole system of play.

Bromley Gooner
Bromley Gooner

What the fucking fuck was Traore doing playing for my club he is dreadful I used to think he had something no wonder we lost so badly we played with 10 men even before carl got sent off, Traore needs to go he was shocking !!

Breezy
Breezy

10000000% agreed

GM
GM

And I quote (loosely):

“We don’t need to buy a left back because we have Kieran Gibbs and Armand Traore so we are O.K. in that position”.

Evidence if ever there was of Wenger’s self-delusion.

cesq
cesq

who is Paul Merson to judge Arsene? good footballer . … yes,but also a degenerate clown. In Wenger we trust

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

I bet you believe in the Loch Ness Monster, the Yeti, Martians and black magic, too!

board game
board game

Wenger shows the board that he NEED$ the money…

william montgomery

I feel for the fans that travel all over the place and support arsenal threw thick and thin, and have to bare witness to that tanking the day. The away fans the day did us proud by singing for long spells in the match and trying to get behind the team. These fans are paying five star Michelin restaurant prices and then gettin served big mac and fries for their main course. It cant keep on like this. Some one in the heiracy has to bare responsibility for the state of the club at the minute. The least the Arsenal board should do is refund all the away supporters their money back for today match..

PLUS Why does it say “FORWARD” on the new badge?? Clearly it should say “BACKWARD”

cesq
cesq

do the board care? or are they happy to keep making money? Arsene needs time

stevie
stevie

Get rid of those fucking yank cunts too. Bring in the Ruskies,.

AvenellRoad
AvenellRoad

Listening to all those players leaving Arsenal speaking about Wenger in positive terms make you think that the problem isn’t with him but the board. His hands might be tied when it comes to transfers, but then again, the team around him (scouting etc) isn’t of the same caliber it used to be.

DAVE
DAVE

@AvenellRoad – because the board won’t pay them either. Pure example is when Real Madrid got our groundsman by paying him what he wanted. The man did a brilliant job with our pitch but the board had the nerve to think he started getting greedy.

william montgomery

He needs a good kick up the Arsenal… He had six years, How much longer does he need???

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

Either one of two things are happening:

Wenger has the money available for signings and is refusing to spend it unless he gets “value for money”.

Or the Board have told him that he must spend as little as possible and just try to remain in the top four.

As fans, we deserve to be told the truth.

We are going nowhere under this Wenger/Kronkie partnership.

Johnny Massacre
Johnny Massacre

If I could be arsed I’d research some facts before making these statements, but here goes anyway.

I think Arsenal football club have become something of an anomaly in football.

Even though we qualified for the Champions League last year, and did well for a while, we consistently set records of … of shitness.

It’s amazing that even the teams below us — FAR below us — hadn’t set these kind of shit records before.

Once upon a time we set records of greatness.

But last season we threw away a FOUR GOAL lead in the SECOND HALF.

We conceded a goal in the 98th minute a minute or two after scoring, to Liverpool.

And now … this.

Something is very, very, very wrong.

Fabregas and Nasri are gone. Now, we have nothing, other than RVP.

Ramsey can be a great player, but he looks like a scared kid in midfield.

Extremely worrying times, not least because the transfer window will close imminently.

And, Wenger says we have many players out. I want to ask this question. For the last four years, I swear to God we have had shitloads of players out. Every year, Wenger says the same thing, “We have players out, etc.” So, if every year for 4 years+ we have players out, doesn’t that obviously mean we need to have a stronger squad so we can deal with inevitable injuries?

Look at Man City last year. Fat squad, FA Cup.

Damn!

Highbury_Squirrel
Highbury_Squirrel

Dave, I think you’re right, it’s not all on Wenger. Odd things happening at board level. You wonder though if Wenger was so restricted by them, surely he would have to say something or walk away?
I don’t understand this massive reluctance to spend. It can’t be all financially motivated, it nearly cost us our £25mil of champions league money. Massive 3 days ahead. If he fails to strengthen and the squad are this poor in a season where ticket and membership prices have risen we could see a very empty emirates and some seriously pissed off fans.

Johnny Massacre
Johnny Massacre

Wenger has too much class to make petty public statements like Bolton, etc.

Johnny Massacre
Johnny Massacre

Erm, and someone please tell me what Kroenke has to do with ANY of this?