Wenger challenges Arshavin, Chamakh and Park

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Arsene Wenger has challenged some of his forwards on the fringe of the first team to show their worth when they do get their chances.

A definite first choice front three has emerged this season with Theo Walcott providing Robin van Persie with delicious assists, while Gervinho, despite being somewhat wonky in front of goal in his last two games, has been a positive addition to the side.

That means players like Marouane Chamakh and Andrei Arshavin have found their first team appearances limited with new signing Ju Young Park is still to feature in a Premier League game.

However, the boss insists that due to the amount of games we have to play, and the need to rotate the squad, these players will have their opportunity and it’s up to them to take it.

“We have cover for Robin because we have Chamakh and Park”, he said at his press conference earlier today, “who I think are quality but at the moment they are not getting the opportunities because Robin is in such fantastic form.

“It will be up to them to show they can take the relay when needed because the season is long and we play in many competitions, hopefully for a long time. Everybody will get a chance.”

And he played down suggestions that Andrei Arshavin was little. I mean little more than back-up.

“He’s not a back-up player but at the moment he doesn’t play. Maybe he will play on Saturday. I feel sorry for every player who doesn’t play but it is part of our job. Competition is part of our job and you must accept that in some periods of your career somebody can get in front of you.”

Arshavin’s last league start for the club was on that fateful, and frankly painful, day at Ewood Park back in September. Since then he has started twice in Europe and once in the Carling Cup, but clearly the boss isn’t comfortable picking him for domestic duty.

Let’s hope that these guys are ready to battle for a place in the side. The season is long and we will need to make full use of our squad. Competition for places is a good thing, generally speaking, but it’s how those on the sidelines respond that really give you a measure of your players.

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Ace McGoldrick
Ace McGoldrick

Seems in this picture Chamakh feels trying to pose like Arsene is the way to go to regain his place

Merlin's Panini
Merlin's Panini

I thought it looked like Koscielny was being cheeky with that metal man thing (what are they called anyway?) and saying
“hey guys! here’s your replacement!”

sorry.

Padwoir
Padwoir

Metal man thing works for me.

Krakfish
Krakfish

Coaching mannequins.

Not a patch on metal man thing though, eh?

Mooro
Mooro

Glad you came up with it. The lack of pictures on the iPhone means my brain’s been going overtime…..metal man thing….what the fuck….?

Merlin's Panini
Merlin's Panini

Thank you kindly 🙂

Frog
Frog

I challenge chamakh and arshavin to get their agents to find buyers for them that are willing to pay a collective 20 mil. On the first day of the January window.

CAGooner
CAGooner

I’ve got to admit that I have a soft spot for Arshavin, no matter how frustrating he can be. I feel that somewhere indide that lanky body there’s a he’ll of a player struggling to get out.

Merlin's Panini
Merlin's Panini

Arshavin lanky?
First I’ve heard of it…

Scribblers
Scribblers

If we could combine Jenkinson with Arshavin, getting the best attributes from each. I think it’s fair to say we’d go on to conquer Mars.

GossipGooner
GossipGooner

I love that Kos is in the photo. He himself has come so far and needs to be the inspiration for Chamakh and Arshavin. Kos has improved a lot through the months so I’m sure they an too. Also I don’t find that age is an excuse for not improving your game…

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

My mate Frog is spot on: Chamakh, Park and Arshavin should all be moved on this January. None of them are good enough.

Anon
Anon

Park has not even played in 10 matches.

You must be daft. Frog didn’t even say a thing about Park, he only said that of Arshavin and Chamakh.

Chamakh I can reluctantly nod along to, but Arshavin can hopefully get himself up. We need that elusive back-up for Gervinho.

Anon
Anon

The problem for me here is the fact that Robin van Persie is hot on form though.

And the fact that the formation is a one-striker system which has 3 available strikers.

Wenger once said he now has 5 international players to pick for the 2 central defender positions, but then couldn’t the same be said for the 3 international players vying for that 1 striker position?

I can’t really imagine Arsenal reverting to 442 any time soon, so I think it is tough on Park.

Unlike Amaury Bischoff, Park has been seriously touted by Wenger in the press numerous times, whereas Bischoff was completely… invisible.

Of course though, Park is not as good as Robin van Persie, but then again it’d be unfair to judge park prematurely just because he hasn’t been playing.

Gerard Pique rarely played for Manchester United and SAF once thought Johnny Evans was as good as him, now look where he is.

JohnDale
JohnDale

@arseblog I’d want to be a jerk here and say, I’ve noticed you don’t like Park much. Saying “I’m happy to give him some time though” comes off as if he’s had ample time already. But he’s had virtually none.

FYI its Van Persie he’s fighting with for a striking place, how many strikers in the premier league (and the world for that matter) would currently be picked over Van Persie? None.

So please, give him a break.

PS: I’m done being a jerk now 🙂

Frog
Frog

@ johndale

I think you’ve entirely miss the point mate. Nobody thinks park, or anyone else in the world should be starting OVER rvp. We’re talking about our lack of a competent back up striker in the squad.

JohnDale
JohnDale

@Frog That’s exactly the point. How do you know Park is incompetent? He has barely played any games at all!

Padwoir
Padwoir

You don’t know if Park is good enough yet Fatgooner because he hasn’t really had the opportunity to show us what he is made of in the Premier League, and before you come back with ‘if hes good enough, he’d have had some games’, recall that in that striker position that we employ,there has been a certain goal machine in good form taking up the slot.
For once though I do agree with you (hands over smelling salts), sad as I would be to see either of them go in respect to the fact that they havn’t fulfilled their potential, I think too its time for us to find decent, dynamic and hungry replacements for both Arshavin and Chamakh.

Padwoir
Padwoir

Beat me to the post by seconds it looks like Blogs lol.

JamesAFC
JamesAFC

you dont have any mates.

Padwoir
Padwoir

Look whos talking.

Lekan
Lekan

Chamach n Asharvin shud luk elsewhere.Park will gt his chance 1 day.Up gunners.

Metal man thing
Metal man thing

Metal man thing does not approve your spelling.

Merlin's Panini
Merlin's Panini

I fear I’ve created a monster here…

Frog
Frog

Here’s the thing with park. I don’t know anything about him. Neither does anyone else posting here. He’s been a member of the senior squad for 3 months now give or take. If was really good, he’d of forced his way in. If not to the first 11 ( ehem rvp) he surley would have passes chamakh.

I don’t think we should sell him, yet. I do however think he should be shipped to the reserves. We need another proper striker. There is no way to argue that. 15 mil for arshavin and chamakh will be enough coin to find a decent replacement. I mean this is wengers fourtay ( spelling?) for fuck sake. If arsene can’t find a back up striker in France or Germany for 15 mil, he’s lost it. I know there is someone who fits the bill. Sort it please.

And ya, fatgooners my boy!

tino
tino

forte?

Merlin's Panini
Merlin's Panini

Get a room you two! 😉

suuedward
suuedward

ARSHAVIN claims to have come to our club to look away of going to barcelona but please no one is going to see u with that kind of little football admire your fellows they are improving day by day and use a chance when given it . If atall u remember MESSI`S words after the chelsea match during JOSE`S regime the boy told every player to use a chance once on the pitch effectively because one time there may be stiff competition in the club and u may not easily get a chance of playing thats why MESSI ever since he joined the club he has never been underlooked.

Mooro
Mooro

…and breathe.

Frog
Frog

And this one time at bandcamp….

MJB
MJB

With all this talk of Park, I’m Just curious as to why he isn’t tipped to play against Fulham. It would be a great opportunity to give him some play time/premier league experience would it not?

tt
tt

that will only happen when Arsenal is 4-0 up with 15mins to go

TenaciousDee
TenaciousDee

Huge shoes to fill. It’s not just a striker who needs to do some scoring for us – the likes of Gervinho… heck, I don’t care who it is in the squad, but we need other players to nab the odd goal and spread the load. Ramsey, Walcott, Arteta… COYG!

MJB
MJB

I agree. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Gervinho would be astounding if only he could get his finishing sorted.
This is an amazing 1st team they just get better and better but when we have matches like Fulham perhaps a bit of ‘rotation’ could be in order?
As regards to the earlier remark regarding Park who has hardly played and needs to play. I don’t mean replace RVP but at least give the guy an option to prove himself at some point soon. On the bench at least.

Voldermort
Voldermort

We can’t judge park cos he hasn’t really played, many are judging him on the fact that he was cheap so must therefore not be very good, whereas ashavin has been given chance after chance and apart from the odd game has failed to deliver any real form as has chamach to a lesser degree because he has not had as many games.
I’m happy to give park the benefit on the basis I have seen him in two games one of which he done well. The other two have had their time and would be happy to see them both leave come January.

Frog
Frog

Yup. That’s what I’m saying. You have a better way with words. Hahaha

MJB
MJB

Great! That’s sorted then. Chamakh / Arshavin have had their time and Park needs his time. Or somthing like that. 🙂

Will
Will

i think worf Wil get his finishing sorted out shortly, I am quite happy at how quickly he has adapted, in contrast to arteta who was already in the prem, I have to feel a little sorry for sham (chamakh) because he was doing quite well until van the man returned, I honestly dunno what to think about Arshavin, we all kno the player he CAN be, but apart from that Liverpool game we never see him. I think they’ll all play in the carling cup midweek, and it’s also good that diabys back, he can only improve and I for one hope the lad stays injury free and reaches his potential, and now with the new medical centre I think he has every chance, are we seeing its value already with van persies current form? and his injury free extended run in the team? here’s hoping. oh yeah it’ll be 3-1 tomorrow. c’mon arsenal.

MJB
MJB

I’m hoping it’ll be 4-0 to us. Look what we did to the chavs, 3-1 is a bit safe. ;-D

MJB
MJB

COYG!!!!!!!!!

Nick in Joburg (who stole my handle?)
Nick in Joburg (who stole my handle?)

Worf….brilliant….

Metal Man Thing's Mate
Metal Man Thing's Mate

You shoulda heard what Kos said to Arsh and Cham……

Rickard M C S

Hey that Park fella looks just like koscielny!

Sharivan
Sharivan

Let’s all remember song in 2006.wenger knows

Sneaky fucking Russian
Sneaky fucking Russian

We will need to start giving someone some game time out wide because of the foreheads absence… I hope arshavin can do the business. You can’t help but want the guy to do well for arsenal. He is one player you can tell purely and whole heatedly just loves playing the game because no matter the score, he always looks like he’s having a great time out there. Plus hell always be the guy that sunk Barcelona!

Maddo
Maddo

Park has been in three games for The Arsenal and scored one goal, a good ratio for a new player.

He just needs games.

Arshavin is an enigma… he can often surprise you (CC v Bolton) and at the same time frustrate you… giving the ball away in areas where the opponent scores from free kicks.

Chamakh has a role to play if he wants it. But he must learn to strike the ball in goal rather than pass the ball. We brought Chamakh at mid to late autumn of his years, a season too late…. whereas RVP is at his mid to late summer and long may the summer month’s season continue.

P.S. Have anyone else thought about Carl ( Leroy Smart) Jenkinson great ability to cross the ball and the opportunities for Chamakh to score goals if he burst his guts to get to the end of the crosses made. Alas Carl is injured at present.

Park (Ju) will surprise us all. He loves scoring goals and he knows where the goal front is… it’s just the pace of the game and his nerves are giving him trouble. He will settle soon.

MJB
MJB

We don’t need ‘random’s’ we need ‘definates’.

Thorough

I am the man looking for the thin line, that point of convergence where our opinions dont defere. And from what I have read so far we all think Arshavin is capable of the sensational. Methink he is capable of much more. Perhaps it is time our all-knowing Arsene use this little man the best way all sane men think he can be used – as a central attacking midfielder. Watched him run the Zenit boat from that spot, watch him do same against Bolton in the CC: I can only wonder how long it will take Wenger to realize he is the little genius we have been looking for in the middle. And to thin of it, the wings are overstocked: Gervinho, Benayoun, Rio and Probably Santos on the left; Theo and Chamberlain on the right. He is not a speedstar, he’s not an amazing crosser of the ball nor is he the best when it comes to helping out a full back in his defensive duties (especially now because no sane coach would wanna have Arshavin and Santos on the same wing, that would be tactical suicide) why then waste this little genius on the wings. And his plethora of tricks just speaks volume of how great a playmaker he will be: passes through the eye of the needle, dribbles well, shoots with both feet, need I say more. And his stature show he is a playmaker too I dare say, here is a Checlist: Maradona, Hagi, Scholes, Xavi, Modric, I can go on and on and on. Play him on the wings and we will all wanna see his back as we presently do. Play him as a playmaker and we will all be hoping he plays into his 35th year. Arsene the jury is out.

MJB
MJB

I’m sorry but I am NOT convinced with Arshavin. Too random. Sorry but ’tis true.

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MATT S
MATT S

@Thorough has hit the nail on the head. I was about to make exactly the same point regarding Arshavin…he is the best attacking central midfielder in the squad and should have taken over the role that Fabregas had been running in the last couple of years .

Regarding the other players, when are we as football fans going to learn to be less fickle. Writing a player off too early can be equally as misguided as hailing someone as the new freddie, robert, thierry, etc when they are just as likely to hit a slump in form at some point which will provoke calls for there immediate sale.

sJ

*their. Sorry, had to = ) But other than that your, and Thorough’s comments, both hit the nail on the head. Although. The present system we have is working just fine and as they say, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! Ramsey is currently occupying the role we’re on about and he’s doing quite well in it, especially with the defence-splitting passes or little lobs over the top he makes, he seems to have made big strides and his stamina is great as well. So where do you play Arshavin? Do you sacrifice this midfield trio of Ramsey Song and Arteta? On a more personal note, I love Arshavin and want to see him kick ass in the middle but it’s just a question of how to play him when the midfield is doing fine at the moment

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

Park is bad, but not as bad as Wenger who is entirely too tall, has too big a nose, only wears red ties and is too trilingual for my liking. Also, he has won too much at Arsenal, he is too close to the team to actually judge talent better than anyone else posting stuff on the Internet, and what’s up with him giving Thierry Henry a chance to train with the team instead of throwing a shoe at him – if he were a great manager, that’s what he’d do.

P.S. this post not really by FATGOONER, but I feel I can pick on him because I, too, am fat.

Metal Man Thing's Mate
Metal Man Thing's Mate

Me too. That’s why my mate is on the photo and not me. 😉