Tuesday, October 15, 2024

Racism threat keeps Oxlade-Chamberlains & Walcotts away from Euro 2012

Whilst young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is delighted to be going to the Euros as part of Roy Hodgson’s squad, he will sadly not have his family there to support him in person.

The families of Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, and Joleon Lescott (amongst others) have made the tough decision to not travel to Poland and Ukraine for this summer’s international extravaganza, fearing racist behaviour from supporters and hooligans in the region.

Apart from past incidents involving racist chanting and the jeering of black players, there have been recent exposés on right-leaning hooligans in the Ukraine, many with racist tendencies. Apart from the families of these players, a lot of England supporters have also decided to avoid travelling to Euro 2012.

It is important to note however, that it is a minority of fans that cause these problems, but as ever – it is a very visible and vocal minority.

Hopefully the tournament will be incident free, with fans and authorities on their best behaviour. However, it will certainly be an uncomfortable time for the England squad – for which racism has been a hot topic of late.

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ken

If that picture was meant to creep me out, it worked.

Frank de Boer

I don’t know if I’m missing a reference or what but I fucking hate it.

ken

TIL that besides being a racist twat, John Terry is also an ugly girl.

iSayed

Let’s not forget, JT is also a UCL winner now. He’s just the complete package isn’t he.

ryan

oh my god, that is john terry.

Jimmy

Who is that sexy bitch?

John Terry

Why is there a picture of me here?!

Bunburyist

It’s quite shameful, really, though it’s important that we don’t paint all Poles and Ukrainians as racists. The drive for racial purity in post-communist countries is a sad side-effect of their recent history, and is actually exacerbated by two factors: 1) a desire to be like “Old Europe” with their seemingly unified and concrete identity with a rich tradition (as opposed to their own seemingly backwards and fragmented history, of which they are extremely sensitive), and 2) the expectations of the European Union for post-communist countries to take the immigrants (especially the so-called “gypsies”) who are unwanted by the Western… Read more »

THEREISBEARCUM

Things I Definitely Don’t Expect to Read on Arsenal Message Boards: #52: “I think that quote was taken out of context – Bendtner never meant to suggest he was the greatest striker who lived or ever will live.” #53: A statistical analysis of why Squillaci is “Not actually that bad, really.” #54: Reasoned and erudite explanations of the tendency of the populations of former Iron Curtain states to exhibit nationalistic and sometimes xenophobic behaviours in reaction to what is seen as the dilution and/or destruction of their nations’ unique ethnic characters and histories by an undesired and externally imposed political… Read more »

Theoptimist

Thumbs down solely on account of your name.

CAGooner

Sorry: Even if you post, “John Terry is a fucking cunt” and it gets 117 “thumbs up”, doesn’t mean we don’t have room for a well-thought out and articulate post in these threads. So props to Bunburyist.

THEREISBEARCUM

Not appreciating my name gets you -50 Arsenal Points.

Mike Hawke

Right wing lunatics are in every country mate.

zebratt868

well said Bunburyist!!

Kim

I laugh my head off every item I see these Terry pics.. but I still can’t work out what the fuck it actually is?!

Gooner H

Bunbury. What are you talking about as most of the gypsies in Europe are from eastern Europe. They aren’t wanted anywhere.

Bunburyist

Gyspies or “travelers” claim heritage in many places, not just eastern Europe (for example, some claim ancestry in Italy, Egypt, and India). But the larger problem stems from refugees from war-torn and/or unstable Middle Eastern countries, many of whom attempt eastern Europe as a destination because they know western Europe won’t take them. Gypsies are just one group. There are far more that “we” (as the west) are asking the east to take on (because we don’t want them). All of this contributes to the skinhead movements in Poland and the Ukraine.

hallik

Gypsies come from India and are a huge problem in Bulgaria and Romania. They are not just a group they are a huge group. In Bulgaria we have 500000 of them out of 5 mil population, in Romania they are millions. As for refugees we have no problem with them as they tend to work hard to make a living.

THEREISBEARCUM

“Gypsies” came from India about 1000 years ago. They’re as Bulgarian as any actual Bulgarians think they are.

ilya

You’re talking complete bullshit, I’m from Ukraine and immigrants are not at all the problem you describe, there’s gypsies everywhere including western Europe, and you’re generalizing over a diverse group of countries. For example, Ukraine has a rich history being as its capital, Kiev, was the first russian city. I don’t know where you’re from but I’m sure some people consider you’re culture and traditions fragmented and backwards..because they’re ignorant, kind of like your statements. Its not immigrants, its the fact that the population is very homogenous, we’re like 95% white/3% jews in Ukriane, there’s relatively little racism against jews… Read more »

hallik

“gypsies” came to Bulgaria in the late 14th century as a work force for the invading ottoman armie. The problem with them is that they are not integradet in the society. They don’t speak the language they don’t go to school, they give birth at the age of 12, and sell their douthers at markets so the second guy can come here and try to live in a village where 80 year old women are killed with axes for 30 euro

hallik

Илия you are speaking out of your arse you are the craziest nation in europe. Yesterday you’ve had another fight in the parliament. I don’t mind you I like crazy people but don’t speak shit you have problem with russians living in Ukrain let alone foreigners

ilya

I’m speaking shit yet you didn’t refute anything I said, Ukraine is crazy? Ok, don’t see anything wrong with that or how its related. Your statements are dumb as fuck and I’m talking shit? Fuck off

Mike
Merlin's Panini

That fucking sucks. I don’t think it paints a fair picture on Poland and Ukraine but that they feel the racism may be bad enough that they can’t go support their children/brothers is a real shame. Sad this still exists in the world. Shouldn’t UEFA be trying to work with the governments in these countries to help people to feel safe to visit?

manfredi

these right wing cunts should have their ass kicked

too much hate in football these days. Getting tired of it.

to be honest blogs, you are pretty hatefull as well on your blogs, which is why i stopped reading your blog which i normally think is great with my morning coffee.

but all these “he’s a cunt, and bla bla” i dont know..

i rather hear about stories about the team, strategy, formations, goals, historic games, a look at direct QL for CL.

arseblog

1 – I didn’t write this piece

2 – The morning blog has always called people cunts but I really haven’t been doing much of that lately.

Odd.

AverageJoe

Honestly his point about hate is fair BUT…

You know what ? That’s part of the reason I actually love the blog. It does not feed hate, it’s just part of the game to feed our rivalry with, well, other cunts.

Now, if some readers take that seriously, well sorry for them, but I guess we all take those words with the proverbial pinch of salt, don’t we ?

KenyanGooner

More cunts in my morning blogs please…. How am I supposed to have my morning coffee?

arseblog

Well, exactly – you can’t have love without hate.

manfredi

fair play

i also think John Terry is a cunt, i just think the cunt percentage is too high compared to analysis, but hey, its your site!

I just think as arsenal fans we are above all that shit you know…
I rather hear more of all the good stuff

More Arsenal less talk about cunts!

Fatcunt

Aint a hater but i single out the piece you did on kalou. I never quite agreed with alomst everything you posted. It was pure bollocks. For much of the post it seemed as though you had something against kalou.

Just thought someone should bring you back to earth. Your welcome.

manfredi

pretty funny that arsenal fans want more hate and stories about other players who are cunts than about their own team…

Master Bates

now What’s wrong with hate? tactics,formation and transfer rumours are awesome ,but If you concentrate on that alone you’ll end up an ‘objective fans’ you know the armchair managers , the pessimistic cunts..

for instance hating John Terry makes you really appreciate RvP’s second goal vs Chelsea

Phill Collins

There are plenty, hundreds of blogs on Arsenal. You don’t have to come here. I don’t read it anymore myself, my mum tells me what it’s about, every morning when she’s having her coffee. But I like that Cunt thing, It shows passion. Something that $amir lacked. And I like when cunts are beeing called cunts. I hate Tootenham, I hate Chel$i, Man U etc. Moreover I do not consider Vieira as a Legend, he left the club and seems happy up north. Same with Cesc. Dennis is a star to me, someone who stayed with the club till the… Read more »

diefenbaker

Say it like it is …oh yeah.

docjay00

“these right wing cunts should have their ass kicked

too much hate in football these days. Getting tired of it. ”

Oh, the irony…

Bunburyist

…and they are unwanted in Eastern Europe. It doesn’t matter where they come from; the question is, who will take them? Post-communist countries have felt pressured by the European Union to enfranchise the so-called undesirable ethnic groups (including gypsies) while they watch countries like England, Italy, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, etc. turn them away. Refugees from war-torn countries in the 90s, for example, were unwelcome in western European nations, but forced their way into eastern European countries because of the lack of infrastructure.

Bunburyist

[above in response to Gooner H]

mark

You have been slacking lately blogs, more cunts please

arseblog

haha, ok

manfredi

yeah, more hateful arsenal fans!!

at arseblog its cool to hate, cause unless you hate all these other people you cant be an arsenal fan!

you cant love without hate as arseblog puts it.

looking forward to more focus on hate and cunts this summer while we wait for football to start. Contstructive mindsets.

ThaatArsenalGuy

Manfredi mate, you’re leaving yourself open to some serious trolling!
I considered it buts still too early to spoil some oness day

manfredi

uhhh “that guy” im very affraid

oh no…please dont troll me…

ruin my day, hahaha

ThaatArsenalGuy

ha 1-0

Fatgooner

Have you been smoking those funny fags again, Bunburyist? What a load of psudo-intellectual bollocks you’ve been spouting! Countries like Poland and Ukraine have high levels of racism because a large percentage of their populations are ignorant, backward, inbred, brainless, cave-dwelling morons. They’re the sort of people who belive that black people have tails and enjoy eating white men. They’re scum. It’s just a pity that the useless people who run world football don’t take the game seriously enough to tell these primitive countries to fuck off, and that they are not fit to enough to host the World Netball… Read more »

roffey

Noticing of irony fail

Gabe

“What a load of psudo-intellectual bollocks you’ve been spouting!”

“a large percentage of their populations are ignorant, backward, inbred, brainless, cave-dwelling morons”
“They’re scum.”
“tell these primitive countries to fuck off”

spoken like a true intellectual.

ThaatArsenalGuy

if you want intellectual, just check out Joey Barton on question time.
Question time???? for fucks sake!

Master Bates

heheheh ‘funny fags’ . British people are awesome

THEREISBEARCUM

This is what you’re saying: “The simple fact is is that Eastern Euros are racist because they are racist. I reject your view that people have actual reasons for their behaviour based on sociological and historical conditions as “pseudo-intellectual”, though I won’t bother backing up this claim with evidence because this is the internet and we don’t do that here.”

My response: That’s more like it! You’re a retard!

eric blair

Wow, that almost sounds racist.

Bunburyist

Oh, hi fatgooner,

I’m spouting “psudo” intellectual bollocks, am I?

Yes, based on your erudition, I have no doubt you of all people are able to tell the difference between intellectual and pseudo-intellectual.

Hilarious.

Sunny

It’s not good to generalise. But fuck Poland and fuck Ukraine. I don’t recall many people outside of England having much love for us. Back when our fans were violent; and they were not as bad as these lot.

welly

those naked ukrainian girls should protest against racism. that will show them.

Master Bates

Some of people are being Racists to Poland and Ukraine , generalizing is not cool..mkay?

diefenbaker

some places just dont welcome…….non-white, dark skinned people…thats the way it is. The west has they’re PC programme going on. which makes it hard to be unwelcoming in appearence, I guess they go about muttering/whispering and shiffting uncomfortably , whereas some places they’re bit more obvious, either way, one things for sure, the ones on the receiving end …notice and depending on where on the planet you’re born you react or shrug your shoulders because of being used to it or expecting it. Than again on another note forcing integration/assimilation in places that dont have a PC programme going on… Read more »

JohnnyRed

@ Bunburyist; Your statements are, to my mind, somewhat correct with regards to the root causes of the problem in certain areas of eastern Europe. However, other parts of your message, again through my eyes, contains subjective, political sentiments, and should not be presented as objective facts in the public arena. That Rom-people, the term they wish to be known by themselves as far as I know, are somehow “forced” upon EE and have as much history and tradition in all of Europe is simply not true, for example. @Fatgooner; A wise man once said that “The traditional racist in… Read more »

JohnnyRed

@ Bunburyist; Your statements are, to my mind, somewhat correct with regards to the root causes of the problem in certain areas of eastern Europe. However, other parts of your message, again through my eyes, contains subjective, political sentiments, and should not be presented as objective facts in the public arena. That Rom-people, the term they wish to be known by themselves as far as I know, are somehow “forced” upon EE and have as much history and tradition in all of Europe is simply not true, for example. @Fatgooner; A wise man once said that “The traditional racist in… Read more »

Good-Bloke

lol who the fuck is that picture of!?

funniest thing I have seen.

Mike Hawke

Looks like the roadkill I hit this morning.

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