Friday, November 15, 2024

Wenger: it’s all my fault

Arsene Wenger has accepted full responsibility for today’s shameful 6-0 thrashing by Chelsea. The Arsenal manager was hoping to mark his 1000th game in charge with a positive result, instead we were handed a defeat which was both embarrassing and demoralising.

Wenger eschewed the normal post-match press conference but spoke to various media outlets, and said the result and performance should be attributed to him.

“It was a nightmare and I take full responsibility for it. It leaves it in a very bad situation. But we want to respond. We had two difficult away games at Tottenham and Chelsea.

“If we had played two draws we’d have two points. Having won one we have three points. But today is a huge disappointment of course. When you don’t turn up in a game if this stature – nobody takes that easy.”

With much to consider, he wouldn’t be drawn on the specifics of what went wrong, but did tell French TV that he might have made a mistake with his starting line-up (again without going into details).

“I don’t believe it is the time to talk too much about that. The players are deeply disappointed as we all are. I think let us prepare for the next game

“What is important is to give a response on Tuesday night and that is it.”

This is the part of the story where we add something that might provide some light relief, but we can’t do that today.

Everybody associated with today’s game, manager, players and board, should hang their heads in shame. And while the buck ultimately stops with the manager, and he bears his share of the blame, some of the players who pulled on the Arsenal shirt today need to take a good long look at themselves, because they let themselves and the shirt down.

Now, time for beer.

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Rich

Fair play for waiting so long after the 90 mins for a beer. I cant say I had that much control.

Silent Stan's Content Mustache

It wasn’t he that missed a good chance to score off of Rosicky’s pass… It wasn’t he that got sent off. Fuck it, learn from mistakes and move on.

steve

We’ve made too many mistakes over the course of the season and i’m not sure we know which one we should bé learning from. It’s just so painful being an arsenal fan sometimes.

Jin

8-2
6-3
5-1
6-0
Enough is enough, stop this embarrasment. Fuck wenger, especially the players, they dont have the mentality to repaid manager’s faith. Honestly, chesney and others’ attitude of taking selfie when we won spers only 1-0 and kept losing ball on the second half annoy me.

indian gunner

hasn’t it become a pattern that in big games our players go missing all the time,… isn’t this too regular to just blame everything on players,.. what about wenger? he might not believe tactics are important in football, but i say tactics are everything in football (most will agree with me).. he often underestimated the opponents and din’t give the credit they warranted (except in press conferences).. lets try this game, mourinho though playing at home, went for caution when his key players were missing and opted for 2 defensive midfielders, and tried to hit us on break, but wenger… Read more »

ElCapitano

Well then…. that was horrific viewing. I think the club should pay us all some sort of compensation for watching the whole 90 minutes. Match was defined in a moment, if Giroud scored, its one nil Arsenal, game on… but the clown didn’t put away an easy chance, and then Chelsea scored, a carbon copy of what happened to us last year when we played there. That’s what happens when you play the big teams unfortunately, if you don’t take an opportunity to score, you’re most likely going to get punished for it. We shot ourselves in the foot by… Read more »

Gutbukket Deffrolla

You also get punished for letting in 6 goals. Do you really think we would have won if Giroud had scored that first chance?

JC

Blame needs to be shared among Arsene and the players. Arsene – No tactical change. We lost basically the same fashion against Man City, Chelsea, and Liverpool. They carved up our defense and we had no answer. Not sure why we constantly play the high line. Against such teams, it may be beneficial to team up Koscielny and Verminator because Mert lacks the pace in the back. But I don’t know. Sometimes, i am not sure if Arsene is just being stubborn, out of ideas, or his players are not executing whatever the tactic that is being employed. Our players… Read more »

Silent Stan's Content Mustache

A lot of good points, totally agree.

Du'aine

I agree with all points. I especially am glad you’ve been seemingly one of the minority who’ve noticed Wenger takes the abuse for the dire performance of players. They owe him not vice versa. His faith has secured the career for some of these guys and they’re costing him his legacy.
Tactics he has final call, but input from Bould, Boro et al goes unpunished. As does the seemingly awful medical team. Which is why despite the poor performances i sympathise with the man.

Lindhe

Totally agree, we should play like we do against Bayern away, on the counter against the big teams.

Jay Bond

We used to BE one of the big teams. We could be now if Wenger didn’t think £100m in the bank was better than £100m on the pitch. Thanks for the 1000 Arsene, now fuck off before you destroy us any further.

Highberry

Absolutely agree JC. At 2-0 I could have lived with that but the sending off leaving us with 10 men against the Chavs who are like dingoes and exploit wounded and weak animals then we got slaughtered. Whisky last night helped temporarily numb the pain.I don’t want to read all the dumb shit that usually follows such a debacle. (insert player of your choices name here) demands more on the pitch. Just pick yourself up and get on with it like we all have to. COYG

Mootilated

I agree to a certain extent. The problem is that Wenger refuses to change and adapt, but sticks to stagnant and predictable football. That is why I think we need a fresh start, someone who at least LEARNS from mistakes… 17 goals conceded against the top 3 is a farce. No other word for it. And what is most painful as a fan is the hope they give you, only to rip it away in 3 weeks.

rawgooner

…and Russell Brand ( who I put on a cunt list between Maureen and Terry but below Cashley) is on match of the Day. Yeah, right, like I’m gonna watch it anyway!

Xhani

http://www.footyformation.com/team/view/slug/cTn

Does anyone think this would be a realistic line-up for next season? 3 signings: Draxler, Schneiderlin and Batshuayi. I dunno if anyone else is sold on him (Batshuayi) but he would bring loads of pace, skill and two footed finishing to the team. He’s more of a dynamic striker as opposed to Giroud. Could put Remy in there too, or any other striker you think we’d have a chance of getting, this is just my idea of a realistic summer.

(Batshuayi highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zk2Y5sfoh8)

Jay Bond

If you expect to see that much quality brought in, I must assume you expect Arsene to leave? Yesterday’s man would never spend that much in one window – I strongly suspect Ozil was a Gazidis signing last summer. Ivan: Arsene, Mesut Ozil is available. Arsene: I rate him highly, offer Madrid £12m. Ivan: Okay, done (Dick Law, sign the cheque for £42m, we won’t tell Arsene).

AllGunsABlazin

You know who’d be nice?

Emmanuel Mayuka of Southampton (currently on loan to Sochaux), although I say this because he’s a beast in FIFA, I did find some highlights online that match how I use him ingame. He’s pacy, powerful and not afraid to stare a keeper down and rocket a ball past him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsHMn1FUIAs

Gutbukket Deffrolla

Why all the negative responses? Is he a bitey racist diver or something? Have any of you watched him play / seen the highlights or did the name FIFA cause an automatic knee-jerk response?

EuripidesMac

My good people, between now and May 17th, 2014, all that really needs to be said is:

COYG!!!

Sebb

Woke up 10 minutes into the game, saw we were 3-0 down and went back to sleep.

konkogin

He isn’t protecting his players, he clearly made tactical blunders in this game

GoonTang

He is protecting the players. This is what he does. You can’t have a go at the players and place blame on all of them because some will respond well to it whereas some won’t. Is this an indication of the teams mental strength (or lack of)? Maybe. I heard a story in the week about one of the games in seasons gone by – we were having our arse handed to us, Pat Rice was absolutely livid and started screaming at the players at half time. Wenger said: “Pat, shut up”. He knew that some would go into their… Read more »

heroldgoon

He was only protecting himself by wearing that condom . …wait what were we talking about here and who is protecting who?

Le Cheupez

I doubt you caught any sleep after that..

Gargoyle

After all these years, I still wonder why he protects the players like that. This is one of the many meltdowns this team has had this season, and it’s not because of him.

Warsame

it is because of him though. He recruited these players and coached the tactics.

Michael

Exactly, his team, his tactics, his fault.

Howard's Webb

He also didn’t recruit in January when it was obvious to everyone else that he needed to. The man never learns.

Rich

I don’t quite agree with that. His players usually provide a quality performance and he takes little credit; at least not like Jose would explicitly say he deserves.

The fact his players played like cunts is not all his fault on the day. However I think a new approach to early kick offs and matches against MCFC, CFC and now Liverpool need re-addressing.

Rich

Just seen Rooney chip it in from the half way line. I hope Giroud was watching…..

Macduff

Rich

If it was a one off fair enough, but we have been humiliated so many times this season. Six at City, five at Anfield, six at Chelski. Bottling every big game, mandatory sending off included. It’s disgraceful and the buck stops with Arsene

DL Gooner

Not buying someone in January with a bit of pace knowing Walcott was out for the season was a huge mistake, the team looked slow as molasses today. Wenger obviously got his tactic completely wrong, but the players have to take a huge portion of the blame for a performance that was as rancid as mourinho’s wife box.

Du'aine

Why does the buck have to stop with Arsene. Explain the cliche. Why cant it stop with the players who did not perform. He cannot be responsible for how motivated professional footballers are for the biggest game of the year. He can say words at you, he can smash cups in the dressing room. But ultimately motivation is down to the individual. Tactics i can agree to an extent, it’s him, bould, boro, et al.But he takes the blame for the failing of everyone. To those who say ‘he recruited these players’ if you sincerely believe, quite genuinely today was… Read more »

Benvnc

Don’t forget man utd, we played shit against them too, but they were also shit… they still beat us despite having their worst season in 2 decades.

Macduff

Du’aine

The clue is in the word ‘manager’. You obviously do not understand the role. Look it up, including the roles and responsibilities of a ‘manager’, in any business, never mind football.

meh

He isn’t protecting his players, he clearly made tactical blunders in this game

Gunner Goodwin

How can it not be because of him? That’s three times we’ve been shamed this season. Lessons haven’t been learnt. Surely the buck stops with the manager? Perhaps it should stop with a different manager next year.

Young Wenger, Massive Stud

Moyes isn’t responsible for the mess at Man U? I bet you 80 million quid that if Ferguson was still there they would be challenging for the title. Wenger is responsible too. Our tactics work against smaller teams but not big ones. Still, to put things into context, we were playing a team of fucking ridiculous players on ridiculous wages. But to counter that Liverpool have the same budget we do if not less and are smashing it. Urgh what to say/think.

Gutbukket Deffrolla

Our tactics work a damn sight better when Ozil, Wilshire and Ramsey are fit.

Liverpool have increased their debt by 50 million this season. That is irresponsible, and is not at all similar to the way we budget.

mmiki

He protects them in public because public shaming isn’t a good motivational tool. The hardest thing for a team after a defeat like that is to pick themselves up and get ready for the next game. Rubbing it in in public only makes it worse.

Only total incompetents like Tim Sherwood think it’s a good idea.

Warsame

One could see that coming from a mile off. You dont let Arteta play as a DM in the big games, and you play Sanogo for the first 60 before bringing on Giroud (like in the Everton game). Ox should have played on the left to negate Ivanovic.

School boy errors by AW. Very dissappointing and embarassing.

CB

Agreed, we didn’t have stability v Liverpool or City. We should have had both Flamini and Arteta early on. The Ox is too young. Bring him on later or have him on the right.

Be stable, don’t concede, or if we do get stable again. Don’t lose the game in the first 15 minutes again…

ckmma

Putting this out there, I don’t think Wenger know what it takes to win the league anymore… He can win a few cups but not the league or champs league. I don’t think hes tactically savy to win big games when needed, or buy big players when the problems in the squad are starring him in the face. I know he always likes to play attractive attacking football, but there is a time and a place to “park the bus” or be more cautious and away to a big team is one of them. Wtf was he thinking leaving Flamini… Read more »

neutral

Wenger buys the wrong players and does not properly prepare the team, he may be a good father figure and have a good football philosophy but the last ten years has revealed his limitations. Always the same thing. The best way I can describe a Wenger team is naive, when confronted with adversity they don’t know what to do. Wenger is not going to go out and make the types of changes Arsenal needs to be truly competitive again. Look at Mourinho, gets rid of Mata because he just does not work hard enough, and who wanted to buy Mata?… Read more »

benvnc

Now you’re having a go at the transfers he’s made? You’re acting as though he had the budget of man shitty and chelshite. For the past 8 years or so Wenger has had to compromise for the cheaper players that were available and fuck me he’s done a good job of it considering the amount of money that other teams are allowed to jizz away when they feel like it. Arsenal are one of few clubs who don’t rely on their dictator/sugar daddy to help them out every window in order to reach champions league positions and we’ve had to… Read more »

neutral

This is such an invention, Wenger our savior. By wrong player I do not mean cheap players, I mean inexperienced, physically weak, mentally weak. I also put the failure to buy a striker last summer at Wengers feet, Ozil is a super signing, but not the signing we needed (although with all our small, weak midfielders out injured we do need the cover…). Wenger could have bought a striker, he could have bought one in January. But we need more than a striker, we need a couple of strong midfielders that can move the ball and handle the press. I’ve… Read more »

Ronuja

“I know he always likes to play attractive attacking football, but there is a time and a place to “park the bus” or be more cautious and away to a big team is one of them.”

The thing that gets me the most is that he has shown that kind of tactical savvy away at the Allianz, away at Iduna Park when we played against Dortmund, and it was hugely successful. For some reason, a different approach has been taken against top teams domestically and I don’t get it.

Swedegunner

It’s the same approach, but without giving away 3-4 goals for free during the first 20 minutes

Jamie

That’s all well and good, but I am still having a shitty Saturday as a result.

uberPodolski

An abomination of a game. We can only curb the rot now and not let it affect our FA Cup chance and the rest of our League matches.

smeghammer

The players have had 6 days off since the Spuds game and yet again when they take to the field they seem to show a distinct lack of intensity to their game.

Neil

It was his choice (surely it was) to push our full backs forward early on. That’s fine in a home game vs Cardiff, but not away at Chelsea. Or City and Liverpool for that matter.

This one is on Wenger. The players were a disgrace though. I’ve had a few beers, but if I woke up to the news that we had sold the lot of them, I would not blink.

Fuck off. Idiots. Just check your bank balances and be happy. Smarten up or fuck off out my beloved club. Sorry, but that’s how I feel.

Imp109

Wenger needs to ask himself if he has what it takes to get the club moving forward again. He has done a great job of getting us where we are now but lets face it, we have been going stagnant for years now.

Crispy

Yeah thumbed down a spot on comment ….. Wake up people.

Breezy

Bog standard response every time we get beaten, it’s easy to take responsibility for something when you know there no repercussions. AW doesn’t have to answer to anyone about this defeat, or other two humiliations. To get beaten is part of the game, but to get humiliated like we did three times in a season, is unacceptable.

zizou

Now this, is Class.

Michael

What, getting thumped 3 teams in one season?

Michael

teams = times

neutral

3 times, 3 teams, both correct

goonero

This is admittance of failure. We all have our flaws, is this just arsenes being shown in devastating fashion?

billybibjojo

Don’t understand how this happens, i am at a loss as to how the players collapse so early in these big games against such big teams.
The fact that this leads Jose to be so smug and so happy makes me vomit into my mouth.

Hadvar

I fondly look back at 1998. Midfield of Manu and Paddy, big, agressive, scary, the opposition knew they were in a game. Smaller, faster players around them (particularly the fantastic Overmars in that particular year). Small players in the middle of the park? Meh.

Aj

This comment hits the nail on the head!

Arsene dominated the EPL with Paddy V & Manu P in the middle – big strong tacklers. A team full of small, tippi- tappi artists, who play a match like it is a training routine, is never going to cut it against the better teams. How many more thrashing do we have to take before Arsene realises that?

The Moiderer

That’s such an “English” response and the reason we don’t create players like messi, iniesta, xavi, ozil etc in this country. Big and strong gets you a Stoke City! Its nothing to do with the size but the tactics. Claude Makele 5’8, Didier Deschamps 5’8, Marcos Senna 5’9 all “small” players but with the defensive and tactical nous. There are many more than this.

blahblahblah

so paddy played like a stoke player did he lol,give me a team of skilled strong players any day over tippy tappy sideway crab passers anyday

Sinan

Not excusable really. Losing a game happens. Breaking down like we have three times in 4 months should never happen. He needs to tell us how he will turn it around if he wants to stay. We need to see changes in tactics and transfer market. Should he be given one more chance? Not if he is never going to change.

john

i would say this is the 4th time this has happened this season with the Villa result being the first. It’s the same mistake every time

A Yank

PFft… We totally outplayed Villa. Bullshit sending off and a bullshit penalty. Even down to 10 men we looked like we might level it up until we got hit on the break.

Now if you want to bitch about how often we’re getting hit on the break when we look to be the team about to score, that’ll I’ll listen to.

john

3 goals on the counter attack due to poor play in midfield. When it happens several times it stops being bad luck and becomes bad preperation, this is basic football.

heroldgoon

Flair and technical players before everything for Arsene. One of his main undoing post the invincibles viera/gilberto etc hardmen era.

Dan

Arsenal have such a fickle set of fans.

Bunburyist

Yeah, how dare the fans of a football club express their disappointment after losing a game 6-0!

Du'aine

And the calling for a dramatic cull of all members of staff of a company to which we have no other real interaction than our persistent observation. That’s our right.

Crispy

And it’s share of self righteous bellends.

But hey I love my title chasing (meh) team having their arse handed to them.

billybibjojo

Also, its a different game if giroud takes his chance in the first few minutes. The first goal is always so important in these big games

A Yank

It is. But he missed it. Giroud misses a fair number of shots that a really quality striker should make.

Basically he is Bendtner only without the rubbing-his-dick-on-a-taxi aspect of his personality.

Az Ahmed

Who has been talking about Giroud and his crappy finishing all this time and people have been slating me and thumbing me down? He is NOT a big game player and he misses important chances all too often against big teams. Was I right or was I right???? Get rid of him and bring in a world class striker and a world class monster DM. Also we need to look at our injury problems – we have FOUR of our best midfielders missing – Ozil, Theo, Ramsey, Wilshere. Lastly and most importantly, Wenger needs to change his tactics against the… Read more »

Kevin

Wenger has shown that he is tactically INEPT time and time again. How does he get away with it …. I would really like to know? I would love to have had his income for consistently repeating the same amateurish errors, honestly if I made the same mistakes he continues to make and failed in my job as many times as he has, I would have been sacked after a couple of months, yet he has survived 16 yrs and gets huge pay rises, and is about to be offered another one with a new contract!!

What an insult!

Gary

Arteta needs to be dropped along with podolski ” and let’s not even mention that donkey Giroud . It is heart breaking but arsene’s time is up

A Yank

What the fuck does the Spuds match have to do with any of this? Are we the first team to ever play consecutive away matches? And the points? If we had two points from two games, that’d be okay? You’re trying to win a fucking title, how about you aim for more than two fucking points? Can I write an entire comment of rhetorical questions?

gammhunn

Apparently, you can.

Tom

Hasn’t the fact that you provided an answer invalidated your answer?

Rúni í Jansagerdi

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time. I have been a supporter of ARSENAL since 1987 and since the 2008 seson i lost faith in Wenger, so please take your clothes and leave, you have taken us as far as you can, and you have not renew you self since you joined the club. So please do us a favor and just LEAVE, and we will promise that you will be remembered as a good thing in this amazing… Read more »

Az Ahmed

I have not been on the Wenger out bandwagon over all the years we have screwed around and messed up our title chances, but after three abysmal performances against what are now the top three, I have to say that we seriously need to look at the management. Wenger is a true legend, but he should retire when the going is good – give us an FA cup trophy and retire, because you don’t want to do a Muhammad Ali and go out with a whimper. I want Klopp.

Buhari Ismaeel Dhangote

Well said…it’s time for wenger to call it off.

Mustafa

Doesn’t that guy on the right of the picture look like Morpheus from The Matrix?

Thomas

Why hello, Andre Marriner.

Seriously?!

Lol… he really does though!

Stones

“No, I think it´s Gibbs..or is it Chamberlain?”- said the miserable referee.

Redneck Gooner

I’m getting a dizzying sensation of deja vu…

griff

We are fucking spineless. when we go a goal down we fuckin implode. we have no goal threat. but fuck we have been saying this since we imploded after eduardos injury. these are AW’s men he puts faith in them but they dont hurt like fans do. the are a fair weather team it saddens me to say it but we have nothing. We will win the facup simply because whats left is shitter than us. good job there are no top 6 teams left. If we have money to compete its time to clear out and buy big. enough… Read more »

Az Ahmed

But it is not just about the signings is it? The injury problems we seem to get every year have to be addressed. A real solution needs to be sought. Maybe the problem is overworking the players? They should be given sufficient rest and a better rotation policy needs to be used. Who else has their TOP FOUR players out right now??? Ozil, Theo, Ramsey and Wilshire ALL OUT. It is ridiculous. We have enough players to make two midfields, one against the lesser teams and one against the top teams. Maybe a 3 match on 1 match off policy… Read more »

neutral

I would not place Wilshere in the top4 based on his performances this season, or last to be honest. Don’t think about injuries to our two most important players, Per and Kos, we lose them and we’ll be lucky to finish in the Europa league places.

az ahmed

Wilshere is playing with knocks and niggles and as has been said previously, he wants to play, even if he is carrying an injury. The way he has played this season, he has obviously been shit, but he is not a shit player, and there has been something there stopping him from playing his best. The best explanation I can come up with is that he has been carrying an injury so he has not been able to raise his game. If Wenger used a proper rotation policy and rested his top players, I honestly think that Wilshere would be… Read more »

Marc B

Wenger uses players till they drop and then when they drop, they are gone for a long time. Rotate more and show more faith in the so-called lesser players who after-all are the ones that actually end up playing most of the games. And if rotation shows that the lesser players are not good enough, get rid of them asap. Also, when you buy cheap, it is usually because those players have certain drawbacks which often includes being injury prone. What am I saying anyway, here we are talking about a manager who signed an injured player to cover an… Read more »

Witoldo

Agree with Neil. We went gungho in the first five minutes, committing fullbacks all the way forward and midfielders too. Seems like he fired up the team and told them to take the game to Chelsea. Well, as the script goes, the way to beat Arsenal is to let them come at you and hit them on the break, and boy were Chelsea ever ruthless in their efficiency in doing so. It’s as if Wenger couldn’t resist trying to fulfil his Romantic vision of football, when perhaps he would have been better served by a pragmatic approach, such as we’ve… Read more »

progman07

It’s a myth nowadays. They didn’t let us ‘come at them’. Nor did Spurs, nor did Pool, City, Everton, etc.

They press us high, All we do is pass it backwards then either hoof it to Giroud or try it through Sagna. Our midfield cannot bring the ball forward.

Whst you say used to be true when we had Cesc who could push any opponent back, but we certainly haven’t been in the position to bring the ball forward too often in big games this season. We had maybe one chance, the Giroud one.

Witoldo

Although I should perhaps make clear that I don’t agree with Neil in saying the entire team should be sold and/or fuck off.

Neil

I was upset. Sorry bout that.

Angolan Girl Who Loves The Gunner

i don’t understand how this is your fault boss. What happen to our defense, midfield? last time i checked you are not a player, even doe you make the tactics, but if you make them right and if the players mess it up its not your fault in my opinion. The players were too lazy today and nobody knows the fuck why!!!!
Well, lets just get 3rd or 4th place and win the fa cup, winning that we can also get the community shield…

arsewood

well 1st game “arsene who?”
1000th game “wenger out”
media’s gona have good time bashing le prof and our beloved arsenal

begeegs

We went from not knowing who he was to not wanting to know him. 😉

o2ba

Crap! That is all

Petit's Handbag

Was not Arsene’s fault one bit, should be a lot of ashamed Arsenal players right now.
Ox has enough experience now to know & do better.

blahblahblah

not one bit??????????????????????????????

SB

We can all discuss the red card till the cows come home. However 2 things stand out – first, the ref Marriner got it horribly wrong, second, that decision doesn’t absolve AW for his team consistently poor performance against key rivals

Cornish Gooner

I think Wenger lost his tactics book back in 2006 and since then has come up with a single game plan. It’s looks lovely when it works well, but it’s useless against kicky teams and big clubs. Add that to his tight as a ducks arse wallet when it comes to transfer time and I can’t see us ever winning the league under Wenger again.

Plus I bet he’s getting a nice pay rise in his new contract, shame he can’t do the same for Sagna.

Trex d Gunner

If he says its his fault, what is he doing to rectify it? This is because he dosen’t have the luxury of weeks or months before we face another big team (i.e man shitty next week). Shitty are going to come septic tanks blazing because there is an obvious fear and lack of technical know how to handle such matches by this team

MTZ

He’s right tho: 3 points out of 6 away against Chelsea and Spurs is better than 2 out of 6. He’s also right in taking responsibility for the team, both when we win and lose. You can’t just blame someone when it fails, and then refuse to give them credit when it succeeds. So far this season, Wenger has done more right than wrong in my opinion, and I feel it’s important to keep that in mind. That being said, he did certain things wrong today, but that’s easy to say after the game. I’ve said this many times before,… Read more »

john

i said it before the game, to me the line up was wrong all along. Ox and Cazorla are not central midfield players, let alone when the opposition is Matic and Luiz

DJgooner

How or why Flamini doesn’t start against Chelski and last week against Sp*ds still baffles me?! Cazorla has been off-form for most matches this season and yet he’s in the team every week. What gives?

fotanen

Sorry to say this on AW’s anniversary but i think it’s time for him to go.I think it’ s clear that he can’ t prepare his team for the big games over the last years.He did n’t help the team in the january transfer window although it is clear to see that we needed a striker and a dm.The only way to move forward is by the end of the season to win the fa cup and wish him farewell and say a huge thanks for what he has done for the club all these years.Our constant failures are no… Read more »

Cup half full (of Jose's toxic piss unfortunately)

Utter, utter fucking shite. As much as I love the theory of just letting the players go out & play it has to be said that it has now been proven as completely fucking ineffectual when facing a team whose manager may have taken the opportunity to watch up to 10 mins worth of our play. Stubbornness is easily undone by tactics, I fear this may herald the retirement of Arsene. I just dread to think how much worse the scoreline would have been if Ozil had been fit.

duno

And now let the 4th place scrap begin! Crap!

rellends

not his fault today barring the early miss, but would giroud be a nailed on starter for every game were he at chelsea, liverpool or city? i doubt it. he’s a fucking carthorse and our lack of a striking alternative (podolski, surely deserves a run up front) has cost us this season. they kept turning the volume down on the coverage today when the bloke with the booming voice kept shouting “giroud you are shit”. whoever that was is pretty much right – you are never going to win the premiership when you have him as your automatic choice up… Read more »

David davidson

“If we had played two draws we’d have two points. Having won one we have three points.”
Yeah, except you’ve also given Chelsea three points.

duno

The funny thing is, if it weren’t for our early season form, the top four would have been an impossibility this year.

Maltagooner

Don’t worry. Arsenal will be struggling to hang on to the 4th place

gooner37

To be fair, it’s not easy getting up early for these 12.45 kick-offs away from home. First look at the alarm clock and there’s plenty of time, then the next…….

Andy Mac

If a Chess grand master kept playing the same Gambit every game, then his 2nd, 3rd and 4th moves were quite often the same too. It wouldn’t take long before all challengers were able to beat him, thus making his tactics less strategic and devastating. Maybe Le Boss is slowly running out of moves to play and the majority of other managers have sussed how to defeat, what was once invincible. What comes next?

Mike

After yet another away day shambles, the players should make it there priority to refund out of their own pockets all of the fans who made the effort to attend the match today. It’s only going to be 5 minutes of the salaries that they didn’t earn today….!!

Thermohaline Conveyor

Oh dear, we just don’t bring it for the big games. We concede in the first ten minutes and it nearly always results in capitulation. I have a lot of admiration for what Wenger has achieved, but tit simply can not ignore three prolific defeats against the main title contenders. These big games should be firing up the players, but it’s just not happening. Why? I don’t have the answer. It’s a sad day. Onwards and upwards!

Don

Did the game look kinda familiar?First time Ashley Cole played for Chelsea against Arsenal we did exactly the same thing,let the full backs attack and pop cross field balls in behind them.Alexander Hleb gave Cole a torrid time that day.Someone should have taken responsibility and filled those spaces but Koscielny had to do it,stretching the defence out of shape.Should’ve started with Arteta and Flamini and played them on the break.Wengers mistake was thinking they would play the way they did at The Emirates,playing not to lose and hoping for a goal on the break or a set piece.There’s no way… Read more »

Another Yank

I guess it seems right to blame Wenger but there’s 11 players and three subs who deserve most of it. It’s not like Wenger can play for them.

Maltagooner

Admittedly half the team did not turn up today, but it is the manager who should be tailoring the game plan to fit the opponent

Fatgooner

If Wenger feels so guilty about this result then why doesn’t he resign?

Crispy

And lose £7.5m a year?……. His guilt isn’t that strong.

MikeSA

Exactly. Talk is cheap. Resign and I might be inclined to believe he genuinely believes he is at fault.

Matthew

I don’t think that’s fair. Wenger loves the club and wants to do well for it – I don’t think there can be any doubt about that. It’s got nothing to do with fucking money.

Look, we’ve fucked up. Badly. But now we need to win as many of our remaining games as we can, and see where we end up. If we can make top four, and win the FA Cup, then I’d consider this season to be a successful one (considering it was the first season in years that we’ve challenged for the title).

Ijan74

Why does this keep happening to us at 12.45pm kick offs?!?!
Bad prep and a lack of focus or an inability to recognise the oppositions tactocs surely stems from the manager.

Ben

I think it’s solely a problem with lack of confidence against big teams.

I tried jumping a barbed wire fence once and a sudden lapse in confidence saw me run straight into it.
A hindered mind can’t jump hurdles.

IMO it’s a club problem and a few seasoned champions ought to change it.

Warsame

That comes from the manager though. AW doesnt believe in himself or the players. Huge gulf in belief from a Brendon Rodgers f.eks.

palace gunner

Your right it is all down to a.w to take responsibility but your right about this red card sending off changed the pattern & formation of our teams game unlucky gibbs bold fella

Maltagooner

How any manager can take so much humiliation in one season is beyond me! Wenger should make way for a proper manager with some tactical sense to be allowed to take the team somewhere. After the early goals, any manager with passion would be on the lines screaming at his players and making instant changes; not Wenger he stays sitting on his backside, shaking his head. To even imagine facing one of the deadliest forward lines by putting Gibbs and Sagna practically at half-pitch, thus exposing the defence – whatever was left of it, to an impossible task, is plain… Read more »

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