Wenger: Barcelona make chances from nothing

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Arsene Wenger says Barcelona’s Luis Suarez, Neymar and Lionel Messi are the best attacking force he’s ever come against and capable of turning ‘normal life into art’.

The trio grabbed a goal each on a wet night at the Camp Nou as Barcelona built on Messi’s first-leg brace to secure a 5-1 aggregate victory over Arsenal in the Champions League.

The Gunners had chances of their own to panic Luis Enrique’s side, but managed to only get three of their efforts at goal on target. It was a difference that the boss couldn’t help but highlight when he faced the press after the match.

“It was a team performance and the quality was good,” said Wenger of his side’s showing.

“I’m disappointed with the result but we played against a team with the best strikers I have seen play together. It is exceptional, they can make chances from nothing.

“We could not take our chances to [find] a second goal that would put us in a strong position tonight but after they scored and it was 2-1, our belief was less than when it was 1-1. We had chances and Barcelona are an exceptional side.”

“We could have taken the dangerous situations we created,” he continued. Barcelona, going forward in the final third with the quality of passing and creativity, Messi was absolutely exceptional.

“Barcelona, going forward in the final third with the quality of passing and creativity, Messi was absolutely exceptional. He went for 90 minutes and came out of the game without missing a first touch, no matter where the ball came from. Barcelona have two or three players who can transform normal life into art.”

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Eyob
Eyob

Problem, especially in attack is while we are full of players with potentials other top teams have the finished world class ones.Time to invest heavily Arsene.

Proff Gooner
Proff Gooner

Problem is he didn’t acknowledge he blew the chance on snapping up one of three World Class attackers we are lacking.

I’m a total fan but can not support the hierarchy decisions. There’s no eagerness to want to be the best which trickles down to a lack of fighting spirit in the team.

But as always…

Forever COYG!!!

goonshow
goonshow

What really changed when Ozil and then Alexis came? Fair bit of hype and, certainly, those two players themselves definitely showed what they could do.
But we still (a) started the season shakily and then (b) clawed our way to the top two in the table and we all thought YES, finally! … and then (c) only to implode after new year and (d) in the midst of that, we also still contrived to trip over our own laces against lesser CL opposition… and (e) yes, even with the glorious but futile sparks at the Allianz. Even the promising ‘click’ that initially flickered between HFB and Ozil seems to have fizzled…

Man City away… Olympiakos… Allianz Arena (twice!)… perhaps even flickers last evening – we’ve all seen what this team – THIS (current) team – are capable of. Yes, we may well lack a top striker – but we have firepower a plenty (when and IF it fires)… our 5 most frequent scorers have, to a man, scored against top opposition on numerous occasions. So what then, is the problem?

One word…
consistency.

Which flows from another single word…
leadership.

Leadership in a football team is like rice: it seeds itself on the soil of the training ground… it is refined and polished in the dressing room… and delivers it’s value on the pitch.
But it needs certain things in order to do that: fertile ground in which to root (a few key players with the mentality of, let’s say, an Adams, a Viera, a Keown, or Petit or McClintock, a Graham even!); but most of all, it needs a ‘farmer’ who knows how to make it grow… the manager.
That innate, indefatigable leadership and fight and guts and sheer bloody-minded stubborn refusal to accept being bettered, is what lifts certain players when others are flagging… it’s what creates those tiny moments of brilliance or brutality (Keown on Ruud) or raw exposed emotion that lift all 11 hearts on the pitch… so that even when it’s just one of those crap, shitty, fuck-it-all days when the ref and the bounce and everything else ain’t going our way – we FIND a way regardless.
And it starts… and ends… with the manager. HE finds and acquires players who will form that fertile soil of leadership. HE plants the seeds and feeds their fire. HE finds the words to work the magic before, during and after those games that really count…

And – as deeply respectful and grateful as I am to Le Prof… I just don’t see that on our patch anymore. Was it crushed under Highbury’s wrecking ball? Did it retire with Tony, or Martin or Manu?
I’m not sure… but god knows I miss it!

Cornelius P. Snuffington III
Cornelius P. Snuffington III

They make chances from nothing, we make nothing from chances.

akinbode Boluwatiwi
akinbode Boluwatiwi

Greatest comment I’ve read on any Blog in 2016… nicely done Cornelius.

bims lay
bims lay

I agree
For me, despite all the flash play and possession of barca, arsenal played well and caused them some problems of their own going forward. The difference between them and us yesterday was the quality of their forwards, ….they are truly ‘world class’ and @Cornelius P. described it perfectly,….They make chances from nothing, we make nothing from chances.” endof.

To illustrate, the messi’s goal was from a through pass that left messi clear on goal with only ospina to beat, ospina came off his line quickly, as a good keeper should, to try and smother the chance and narrow his target scope, expecting a shot, but messi cheekily dinked it over him, genius!

Fast forward, later in the match, (20 mins maybe?)…walcott, identical situation, clean on goal with only the keeper to beat, keeper reacted exactly as ospina did, quick off his line to narrow the angle and target , walcott however took a shot as expected and keeper was able to parry to safety.
Brilliant save?..yes!, no doubt, good strike…yes!, it was on target and at least worked the keeper….world class?….no!….For the world class version, press rewind and watch messi handle the same situation differently.

Look at the suarez chance, and the way he took it?….. not many strikers in the world would fashion a spectacular goal out of such an awkward chance. now, imagine if suarez was playing for us yesterday, the result would definitely have been different. He, would have taken some of the chances and maybe even half chances that we had….hell, we would have in the first case, come to the nou camp with confidence sky high because we would have wiped the floor with the teams we drew and lost to in the period prior to the match because we created so much chances but simply couldn’t convert them, and we all know how such confidence from winning can transform a team…look at leicester.

to sum it up, i am not mad at the lads even though they lost by such a margin. the score line did not in my opinion, accurately reflect the true position on the pitch. in reality the game was closer and could have swung a different way if we had a better strike force. I only get upset when the team put in a poor effort level and lost…..like Watford!. In the Barcelona match, their effort level was excellent, but they were undone by the better quality of the opposition, and nothing they can do about that. Arsene was the one who could have injected quality to give us more bite, and he chose not to, so this loss, is a rip on effect of that decision, and it would not be fair to blame the players.

Consider this, Would Barcelona would be THIS Barcelona, if they have the quality equivalent of our front 3 leading their lines?…. But then, they can never, why?…because they pride themselves on investing and injecting quality in the squad year in year out, that’s why they are the best in the world, and that’s why we will never be able to compete with them on equal footing, until we adopt a similar approach. period.

It is a known fact in football management that injecting more quality,…’class’, into a squad has a domino effect on the performance of existing squad members….it ‘rubs off,’ and uplift in quality cascades outwards, as existing squad members subconsciously ‘lift’ their game to auto correct their perceived inferiority to the new ‘class’ member…..look at what happened to the squad when ozil came?….and later Alexis. Now, Imagine a world where arsene has invested in at least 2 world class players per season, players of ozil and alexis calibre or even better, in each of the last 2 seasons….imagine what this much maligned arsenal team would now look and play like?, …well, thats what teams like bayern, real, barcelona do every season to stay on top….and that’s what we NEED to do to stay relevant.

Buzzy Gurkha Gunner
Buzzy Gurkha Gunner

Sorry but it was too long to read

Greg
Greg

Back to the kids table for you then buzzy lad

Greg
Greg

Very good points well made

goonshow
goonshow

Agree with some of your reasoning but you seem to muddle things after you’ve had your half time orange segment… To whit:
What really changed when Ozil and then Alexis came… fair bit of hype and those two players themselves definitely showed what they could do. But we still (a) started the season shakily and then (b) clawed our way to the top two in the table and we all thought YES, finally! … and then (c) only to implode after new year and (d) in the midst of that, we also still contrived to trip over our own laces against lesser CL opposition… and (e) yes, even with the glorious but futile sparks at the Allianz. Even the promising ‘click’ that initially flickered between HFB and Ozil seems to have fizzled…

Man City away… Olympiakos… Allianz Arena (twice!)… perhaps even flickers last evening – we’ve all seen what this team – THIS (current) team – are capable of. Yes, we may well lack a top striker – but we have firepower a plenty (when and IF it fires)… our 5 most frequent scorers have, to a man, scored against top opposition on numerous occasions. So what then, is the problem?

One word…
consistency.

Which flows from another single word…
leadership.

Leadership in a football team is like rice: it seeds itself on the soil of the training ground… it is refined and polished in the dressing room… and delivers it’s value on the pitch.
But it needs certain things in order to do that: fertile ground in which to root (a few key players with the mentality of, let’s say, an Adams, a Viera, a Keown, or Petit or McClintock, a Graham even!); but most of all, it needs a ‘farmer’ who knows how to make it grow… the manager.
That innate, indefatigable leadership and fight and guts and sheer bloody-minded stubborn refusal to accept being bettered, is what lifts certain players when others are flagging… it’s what creates those tiny moments of brilliance or brutality (Keown on Ruud) or raw exposed emotion that lift all 11 hearts on the pitch… so that even when it’s just one of those crap, shitty, fuck-it-all days when the ref and the bounce and everything else ain’t going our way – we FIND a way regardless.
And it starts… and ends… with the manager. HE finds and acquires players who will form that fertile soil of leadership. HE plants the seeds and feeds their fire. HE finds the words to work the magic before, during and after those games that really count…

And – as deeply respectful and grateful as I am to Le Prof… I just don’t see that on our patch anymore. Was it crushed under Highbury’s wrecking ball? Did it retire with Tony, or Martin or Manu?
I’m not sure… but god knows I miss it!

Highberry
Highberry

Dear Arsene, I truly respect what you have done for the club we all love but these sound bites are becoming tiresome. You would gain much more respect from me by admitting that you were wrong in your assumption that we didn’t need another striker because the goals would come from the team as a whole. Divey Biting Racist (thanks Tom) has scored 43 in 42 games. Just imagine where we would be right now with half that performance I.e. An extra 20 goals. And no I don’t have any idea where to find such a player because I’m just a tired old football fan and you and your team of scouts get fucking millions because you are supposed to have this stuff in your skill set. I don’t necessarily want you to go just sort this shit out FFS.

Toby C
Toby C

Well said, I would like this more than once if I could!!!

DanishGooner
DanishGooner

Wonderful post!

Dale Cooper
Dale Cooper

I don’t think he’s gonna read this mate

Blahblahblah
Blahblahblah

He’s had more than enough time
If he cannot get past this stage with who he has access to now he probably never will
Especially when you consider the last two windows

Alexgoon
Alexgoon

While Arsenal make chances for nothing.

Two footed flamstamp
Two footed flamstamp

And Arsene makes ecxuses out of nothing.

Heroldg
Heroldg

While we get a bunch of nothings when the window opens.

Fan no longer angry just sad
Fan no longer angry just sad

Welbeck did a bendtner the TGSTEL would have been proud

Gunderson
Gunderson

A decent performance I thought, and a decent game to watch. Just needed the finishing to be a bit more clinical/composed. Same old story though I suppose. Apart from the season that RVP didn’t get injured we haven’t had a clinical striker since Henry/Bergkamp.

Hopefully this summer that gets sorted, we would have had the EPL in the bag by now if we could actually get the ball in the back of the net! We should probably throw our warchest at Everton and grab Lukaku whilst there not looking!

Two footed flamstamp
Two footed flamstamp

Reckon if moshiri’s buying of Everton was all planned by Usmanov to get us lukaku and barkley…
Sounds a bit farfetched and dubious but you never know.

Arsenal hurts
Arsenal hurts

while at it bring us stones n galloway as well. take some walcott flamini gabriel n wenger as i take my coat bye.

Jimdinho
Jimdinho

Did they though?
Sloppy play from kos left gabriel and bellerin exposed for the first.
Suarez was completely unmarked for the second.
We gave the ball away for the third.

Heroldg
Heroldg

Chances don’t necessarily have to be scored just ask Arsenal.

goonshow
goonshow

Yep – watching Kos for their first, I think he was missing Prince Ramesis so decided so show his solidarity with his injured team mate by charging up over halfway, getting caught in possession, falling over and not being able to get back in time, leaving a gaping MSN sized hole behind him… and we thought we miss Rambo!

Arsenal hurts
Arsenal hurts

but who doesnt do that againts us? :/ a naive team allover from defence to the board n management

glory hunter
glory hunter

i think its time for another not so secret, secret meeting especially before the Everton game

Toure motors
Toure motors

Only as long as Theo can lead the meeting….

Julio Baptista's humble alter ego
Julio Baptista's humble alter ego

I’d take a front three of Dennis Bergkamp, Thierry Henry and Robert Pires over them any day

goonero
goonero

Remember when we could say we had Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, that traitorous wanker left back, Vieira and even if we had a tiny little stadium and not the greatest finances we could still make a valid case for being an elite European team. Now we have Ozil Alexis and Cech, a huge stadium and a fat bank account yet here we are drooling over a Barcelona team that hardly got out of 2nd gear over the course of two games to spank us for 5. Somethings just not right about that.

goonshow
goonshow

Errmm… now that you put it like that…

Too Drunk To Be Offside
Too Drunk To Be Offside

I have been critical of Wenger but last night’s game meant nothing. There was no way this side was beating the Spanish giants, no matter what Wenger did. No one could accuse the side of failing to top the group either, cos duh … Bayern. So the side cudn’t hv finished top and cudn’t have beaten the wud be Spanish champs. Tough luck!

However the game against Everton, is a tricky one, and if Arsenal lose, which lets face it is a real possibility, then the fight for 4th wud be truly on, especially with Arsenal still to travel to West Ham. Wud be an utter shambles that.

glory hunter
glory hunter

obviously finishing out of the top 4 in a season where we had a real chance of winning the title would be catastrophic but it might be exactly what the club needs to wake up to the reality of things cos if we maintain status quo, i cant see things changing.

Diaby at his best
Diaby at his best

I would love to see changes at mangement level…. But exactly who is available to take over should wenger step aside . If someone better is available , by all means step down , if not …….

He is Well Beck Now!
He is Well Beck Now!

Simone has done wonders for athletico Madrid. They are outdoing Real Madrid with half of their budget. He has even made Torres play better.

Luckybeard
Luckybeard

I have never been one of the Wenger boo boys but in the last two weeks I have started to doubt his future at Arsenal. I fear the Moyes Factor so think we’d have to be very careful who we brought in…As Pepe has sold his soul my only real consideration would be if we could get Joachim Loew, I mean how good is that Germany side under him?

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

Löw just copies whatever Bayern Munich are doing with the German team.

I’ve seen nothing to suggest that he’s a great manager (not that I’ve seen anything to disprove it, either).

He has better players than practically every other team (Spain might have something to say about that) so it shouldn’t be particularly difficult to get that team to win.

rummy
rummy

I might’ve been blinded by torrential rain and 10000 feet up but I’m pretty sure they made at least one of those chances from our defensive mistakes

Alex
Alex

Özil stole the ball to Messi, but who cares? It’s just Özil after all. Nothing to notice.

He is Well Beck Now!
He is Well Beck Now!

We need some players like that.

Fl gunner
Fl gunner

After every game, press conference, excuse, I despise him more.
He had the chance to sign Suarez but passed on it, had the chance to sign messi too, di Maria.. But he keeps giving dumb excuse about not have quality and all that.
Just leave Ffs

The Wizard of OZ(il)
The Wizard of OZ(il)

So Wengs, you wanna bid 1 pound more above the release clause, just couple years ago, for that guy who bites and scores every game without exception? Maybe should’ve gone 10 quid up, that would’ve been enough for sure… (sarcasm intended, hopefully achieved)

emmanuel
emmanuel

yes, Barcelona can make chances out of nothing, that is true. what gives them that impetus? because they have world class players, at least 6 of them in that team. why do arsenal lack the ambition to reach the competitive level with barca, real Madrid and Bayern. arsenal have a reach history, are respected all over the world and are among the 10 riches clubs in the world, so they are not financially inferior to these listed clubs. now, if Wenger marvels at the dazing artistry of the barca magicians and truly believes that arsenal have world class players in walcot, giroud, oxladen-chamberlain,etc, then he might have passed a damning judgement on himself, because one could only conclude that he, as the coach is not good enough to transform them into magicians like the successive coaches have achieved in Barcelona. I sincerely believe that the solution to arsenal problems is for arsene Wenger to leave the club as early as this summer, because with him arsenal have stagnated. he has really done well for the club by what he has achieved, but if he is a self-respecting honest man(I sincerely believe he is) then he should leave for the good of the club and for the sake of the millions of arsenal supporters who have been through thick and thin to carry their beloved club. there’s no point going from year to year hoping things would get better, but repeating the same mistakes. wenger failed because he has repeatedly refused invest in players even when everyone else knew he should. the tragedy of arsenal is that it was taken over by an American who has no ambition whatsoever to preside over a football club which wants to achieve sporting successes like abramovich of Chelsea. Stan kroencke seems to love arsenal as a profitable business venture. unfortunately again the present board appears to be very happy with this. I think that the feelings of the paying supporters of this great club must be taken in reckoning. they should not continue to be taken for granted.

Jalster28
Jalster28

Barcelona make chances out of nothing and Arsenal make nothing out of chances, thanks Wenger?

Jalster28
Jalster28

Oops didn’t notice somebody already make this point. I thought I was soo witty. Smh

Goonersmurf
Goonersmurf

I’m over wenger

Shubham
Shubham

What a shame yesterday where we Barca under real pressure. The difference was finishing. We seem to get punished for every mistake made. And critical mistakes we make regularly.

Wenger looks like a dinosaur with young coaches around. These younger lot have the intensity that sadly lacks in our gaffer. His time is winding with the support base dwindling fast.

The only positive is El Neny and Iwobi. These two are going to be big players if managed properly. Now on to Everton. If we don’t win the game, we’ll have a big fight for the coveted 4th place.

COYG!

goonshow
goonshow

@ BimsJay

What really changed when Ozil and then Alexis came? Fair bit of hype and, certainly, those two players themselves definitely showed what they could do.
But we still (a) started the season shakily and then (b) clawed our way to the top two in the table and we all thought YES, finally! … and then (c) only to implode after new year and (d) in the midst of that, we also still contrived to trip over our own laces against lesser CL opposition… and (e) yes, even with the glorious but futile sparks at the Allianz. Even the promising ‘click’ that initially flickered between HFB and Ozil seems to have fizzled…

Man City away… Olympiakos… Allianz Arena (twice!)… perhaps even flickers last evening – we’ve all seen what this team – THIS (current) team – are capable of. Yes, we may well lack a top striker – but we have firepower a plenty (when and IF it fires)… our 5 most frequent scorers have, to a man, scored against top opposition on numerous occasions. So what then, is the problem?

One word…
consistency.

Which flows from another single word…
leadership.

Leadership in a football team is like rice: it seeds itself on the soil of the training ground… it is refined and polished in the dressing room… and delivers it’s value on the pitch.
But it needs certain things in order to do that: fertile ground in which to root (a few key players with the mentality of, let’s say, an Adams, a Viera, a Keown, or Petit or McClintock, a Graham even!); but most of all, it needs a ‘farmer’ who knows how to make it grow… the manager.
That innate, indefatigable leadership and fight and guts and sheer bloody-minded stubborn refusal to accept being bettered, is what lifts certain players when others are flagging… it’s what creates those tiny moments of brilliance or brutality (Keown on Ruud) or raw exposed emotion that lift all 11 hearts on the pitch… so that even when it’s just one of those crap, shitty, fuck-it-all days when the ref and the bounce and everything else ain’t going our way – we FIND a way regardless.
And it starts… and ends… with the manager. HE finds and acquires players who will form that fertile soil of leadership. HE plants the seeds and feeds their fire. HE finds the words to work the magic before, during and after those games that really count…

And – as deeply respectful and grateful as I am to Le Prof… I just don’t see that on our patch anymore. Was it crushed under Highbury’s wrecking ball? Did it retire with Tony, or Martin or Manu?
I’m not sure… but god knows I miss it!

goonshow
goonshow

On the point of buying expensive, world class talent…

What really changed when Ozil and then Alexis came? Fair bit of hype and, certainly, those two players themselves definitely showed what they could do.
But we still (a) started the season shakily and then (b) clawed our way to the top two in the table and we all thought YES, finally! … and then (c) only to implode after new year and (d) in the midst of that, we also still contrived to trip over our own laces against lesser CL opposition… and (e) yes, even with the glorious but futile sparks at the Allianz. Even the promising ‘click’ that initially flickered between HFB and Ozil seems to have fizzled…

Man City away… Olympiakos… Allianz Arena (twice!)… perhaps even flickers last evening – we’ve all seen what this team – THIS (current) team – are capable of. Yes, we may well lack a top striker – but we have firepower a plenty (when and IF it fires)… our 5 most frequent scorers have, to a man, scored against top opposition on numerous occasions. So what then, is the problem?

One word…
consistency.

Which flows from another single word…
leadership.

Leadership in a football team is like rice: it seeds itself on the soil of the training ground… it is refined and polished in the dressing room… and delivers it’s value on the pitch.
But it needs certain things in order to do that: fertile ground in which to root (a few key players with the mentality of, let’s say, an Adams, a Viera, a Keown, or Petit or McClintock, a Graham even!); but most of all, it needs a ‘farmer’ who knows how to make it grow… the manager.
That innate, indefatigable leadership and fight and guts and sheer bloody-minded stubborn refusal to accept being bettered, is what lifts certain players when others are flagging… it’s what creates those tiny moments of brilliance or brutality (Keown on Ruud) or raw exposed emotion that lift all 11 hearts on the pitch… so that even when it’s just one of those crap, shitty, fuck-it-all days when the ref and the bounce and everything else ain’t going our way – we FIND a way regardless.
And it starts… and ends… with the manager. HE finds and acquires players who will form that fertile soil of leadership. HE plants the seeds and feeds their fire. HE finds the words to work the magic before, during and after those games that really count…

And – as deeply respectful and grateful as I am to Le Prof… I just don’t see that on our patch anymore. Was it crushed under Highbury’s wrecking ball? Did it retire with Tony, or Martin or Manu?
I’m not sure… but God knows I miss it!

Alexstratz
Alexstratz

Sometimes I wonder if we actually train on finishing rather than just passing. Aubameyang was really wasteful when he was in France. Then he moved to Dortmund and suddenly became a serial goal scorer. What changed? Well I believe he worked very hard on his finishing, that’s all.

The Arse in Namib (AITG)
The Arse in Namib (AITG)

They made chances out of gaps in our tactics and lack of goal threat. Everyone knows we can’t convert so the door is left open. We have too many committed forward so we stuff a jamb in it too to make sure.
That is not nothing AW.