Friday, April 12, 2024

Arsene Wenger set to sign two year deal

Word is that Arsene Wenger has agreed a new two year deal with the club, and that an official announcement should be made tomorrow.

The Frenchman met with Stan Kroenke yesterday, and it is believed that the board have rubber-stamped the new contract at today’s schedule board meeting.

It’s a saga that has been rumbling on for months now, with no clarity from the club or the boss, something Wenger admitted had unsettled the team at times this season.

Now, however, in the wake of a record breaking FA Cup win, beating Chelsea 2-1 on Saturday, agreement has been found which will see him continue until 2019.

Although the 67 is fiercely opposed to a Director of Football whose authority exceeds his, it’s expected that there will also be appointments at executive level to support the manager and help increase the efficiency of footballing matters.

Arsenal are also keen to bring Dennis Bergkamp back to the club to head up the academy, a position left vacant by the departure of Adries Jonker in February.

There’s also a busy summer ahead with recruitment needed, decisions to made over the futures of key players, and contractual situations to be sorted out.

There’s no summer tournament this year (bar the irrelevant Confederations Cup) but it’s likely to be a busy off-season nonetheless.

More on this as and when it breaks.

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So, what was that about offering him a two year extension being ludicrous? Oh, wait. We won the Cup. Must be #WengerIn week this week.


Exactly. Fickle supporters. As soon as we hit another bad patch of form it’ll be same old story of he should leave until we string together a few victories again. It’s the same every season. And the really sad thing is people will be doing the exact same in two years when he renews it again.


It was obvious from the get go that nothing but a 2 year renewal was going to happen. They were just waiting in hope that we win the FA Cup because they know it will help get the Emirates faithful on their side. Still the wrong decision. Oh, well. We’ll just have to go through another 2 years of this I guess.

uncle D

Wenger has always been a man of his word, period! Let these attitudes not set the tone for next season. Let these negative attitudes also not repeat continuously because it affects the players! Oh no wait! I believe they know better now. The balance is complete. Let us all enjoy the show! Stick some popcorn in it.

John C

No he hasn’t, if he was a man of his word he’d leave a he said at the start of his last contract we’d win the league during the course of it, which we clearly haven’t!!


and then two years after that, and again, forever and ever, because Arsene Wenger is immortal and determined to make you suffer by overseeing a very good but underachieving football team.

For real though, I think it’s less an issue of fickle supporters than of people inaccurately (or disingenuously) synthesising the opinions of a fanbase that includes literally millions of people.

Third Plebeian

For me it’s not really that I’m thrilled with the decision to hand Wenger another contract. Rather, it’s that, like it or not, he’s our manager for the next season or two, and, to be honest, I don’t trust the club to make a competent alternative appointment. I think we should get behind Wenger right now, because railing against the inevitable will not do him or the players or our collegiality any good whatsoever. There are also some interesting situations ahead that I’d like to see Wenger be a part of. For example, I’m now genuinely curious how we’ll do… Read more »

John Lukic

I’m definitely interested in all those things too, and whether or not we will play the 2nd string/youth players for the Europa keeping the first team fresh for the weekend games. It might prevent so many injuries and give the boys the crack at the PL without the distraction.
But I’m especially interested to know if this will spell the end of Gazidis. Really hope so.


Completely agree. You will see people on here who are currently celebrating will be crying in their beer because we hit our annual crap patch when we can’t beat Huddersfield, Burnley and Crystal Palace.

Campbell\'s forehead

I have always been a Wenger supporter but it has come to a point where a change of leadership is needed. Year upon year our season follows the same trajectory and I think as Arsenal fans, we deserve more.

Saying that, it is right he signs a short term contract due to the incompetency of the board in failing to make a transition plan. Most importantly, it is vital Sanchez and Ozil’s contracts are renewed. I dread to think what will happen if we lose them.

Heavenly Chapecoense

It is difficult to say this after the FA CUP win last weekend but the only thing that needs to change is the followimg: Our players are not winners by nature. They are occasional winners.

Cygan\'s Magical Left foot

He’s selfish selfish old man with no love but himself.

If he loves Tha Arsenal as he claims he’d have left in order for the club to progress.

Arsene IS the MAIN problem.

Shame on you Mr Wenger


Be careful for what you wish for! A lot of fans want Sanchez to stay, but what scenario does Wenger leaving make Sanchez more likely to stay. Same goes for Ozil. Wenger has really infuriated me this season and last season, but tbh for the services he has provided for the last 20 years, I want him to leave on his terms and as stubborn as he can be, he has the best interests of the club at heart! If he didn’t, he could have jumped ship 10 years ago and fulfilled his legacy at Real or Barca or Bayern… Read more »


Well said sir


what the point of cl football if you get humiliate every season i would rather miss the cl occasionally if it meant we won the league a few more time

Lack of Perspective

I dont see chelsea crying over champions league this season. They kept their players, changed their manager and bought another top player or two. Lets stop a minute and think before calling curtains on a season that hasnt even begun yet


This deal was clearly done months ago and they were just looking for the perfect time to release it. All this other nonsense was them just pandering to the media and the fans to make it seem as if there was something actually might change.

I hate to be so negative after such an amazing weekend, but Arsene has potentially blown up the best and last opportunity to walk away from Arsenal on a high.


He could win championship 5 years after and go on a high


kroenke just F..k off

That’s all I got to say

Dan Hunter

The best signing we can make is to bring back David Dein!

Too Drunk To Be Offside

If he does sign, then all I will say is good luck and hopefully he will prove all his critics (me being one of them) wrong by winning the league.


Hypothetical scenario: Imagine Arsenal managers were appointed democratically and you could place a vote right now on whether you want Wenger to sign that 2 year deal or step down, given the current availability of managers, thumbs up for Wenger in, thumbs down for Wenger out.


Probably unpopular opinion, but I am glad. I really think a lot of the criticism aimed at Wenger should be aimed at the board. I hope the Wenger out folk can accept this get behind the team next season.



The board and owners don’t take any responsibility. Wenger is blamed for everything wrong with the club. How is that fair?

I’m not saying that Wenger is blameless in this but there should be a change at the boardroom level first to facilitate the managerial change of this level. Coz I don’t have any faith on the likes of Josh Kroenke, Sir Chips, Dick Law to manage Wenger’s succession plan.


Yep. Losing to West Brom, Crystal Palace, Watford and losing 10-2 on agg. to Bayern Munich were all the faults of the board.

Yes, the board should be blamed. For allowing Arsene Wenger to continue managing this club.


Arsenal went with 3 at the back after nearly two decades, give it a chance…it might work.


Would you trust that board to know who to replace wenger?


Correct and the board should also be blamed for our victory against Chelsea!

Do you expect an invincible season every season?

uncle D

Add we won the cup to that list!


Not that unpopular by the looks of it. I am glad too.


The board that backs him to the hilt. The board that doesnt intefer with any team affairs .The board that gave him 100 million to spend last year?
Thier are massive things wrong at this club most stem from arsene wanting to control of most things atvthe club.
The board doesn’t give a toss about the fans i accept that but to say little of the shit thats happened is not the fault of wenger is way way off the mark


Remember that the board is in charge of operations. How the club is run. What you’ve seen and Arse has mentioned over and over is that Gazidis doesn’t speak, we have no “football men” in charge and our commercial sponsorship team is terrible. Go read Swiss Ramble. He’s written maybe 4 -5 annual reviews on Arsenal. Every time he talks about how our commercial sponsorship is way behind Liverpool, United, Chelsea etc.. The second most popular club in Britain behind United we should have between 150 – 200 million per year in sponsorship but I believe last year we were… Read more »


you mean a director of football type person, someone who can sort the very things you have mentioned, someone to take the load of arsene. Someone that can help with transfers and other major decisions when wenger is as you say dithering. the same type person that wenger has rejected and refused to work with. He is an employee of the club and should be told what he has to accept but he dictates what goes on and can say no to whatever he likes. And because the board loves him and he delivers the minimum without demanding huge funds… Read more »


I think we all need a bit of perspective to be honest, the season was far from bad and there’s no guarantee that we won’t win the league next season …


Plenty of other football fans would give both arms to be in the ‘mess’ we are in


Not fans who pay the highest ticket prices in world football and who were promised we’d compete with the best. We can’t even compete with Leicester and Spuds over the past two years.

We are in a mess, make no mistake.

But i was expecting this. Let’s hope we can lock down big contracts for Alexis, Ozil and AOC, get a world class player or two in, and sort out the football management structure of the club. But i’m not optimistic.

Why not

That is not true anymore i think. So glad fans can’t use that excuse anymore.

Oh we pay so much and wenger is so shit. It’s not him who sets the ticket prices now is it?

Fed up Gooner

It still is the case.

Wenger doesn’t set the ticket prices, but the Club set the prices in line with other ‘elite clubs’.

Please tell me what elite club signs only one outfield player in the summer just because they have won an F.A Cup.

Fed up Gooner

This is the usual nonsensical response. Gooners like you have the shortest memories. Do you realise how much of a laughing stock Arsenal are when it comes to ‘other fans’? There’s a party going on, on Twitter right now and we are the guests of honour! We collapse at the same stage every year give or take a week. Just because we won the F.A Cup doesn’t mean all of last season’s failings have been eradicated. The Board like a lot of Gooners need to show some ambition. Have big players never left Arsenal? Who’s to say our new Manager… Read more »


Why are you so insecure about what people think from other clubs? Who cares? We finished (just) outside the top 4 for the first time in two decades and was one of only three teams who won a trophy. Let them laugh, because it seems they are really clutching at straws. Let me tell you why we are a perceived laughing stock: because of ranting idiots on ArsenalFan(blud)tv.


Couldnt agree more Not only did we finish just outside the top 4 but the last 4 in the Fa cup were all clubs that finished in the top 3 and we beat them

Dixon\'s Awsome Own Goal

Could not give a fuck what is said on Twitter. Either by fans of other teams or our own lunatic fringe. What I care about is the future of our club, and on that basis my personal view is that this is the wrong decision. Start blaming the board for stuff by all means. But don’t forget that board just gave AW another 2 years, and if the previous few seasons are anything to go by they will give him money to spend. Seems they are doing the job a lot of people want them to do.

Faisal Narrage

Fans here are so confused.
They say blame the board and it should not arsene’s fault, but are praising the board for keeping Wenger a defender the right decision.
And when the same failings repeat next year, said fans, after months of blaming Wenger again, will say it’s the boards fault.

Then 2 years from now, will want the board to give wenger an extension. Then blame the board if it goes wrong.


Original Paul

When I walked into work this morning I had no people laughing about us winning 8 of our last 9 games including beating Citeh in the semi and Chelski in the final. Maybe you should mix in different crowds and you wouldn’t be so fed up?? 🙂


I’ve had plenty of people laughing that Wenger got a new contract though

Lack of Perspective

Let them laugh. They are laughing away the memories of david moyes

John Lukic

Fuck twitter

Lack of Perspective

SOrry but who even gives a fuck about twitter parties. Sport should matter more than how much you can tolerate the piss being taken out of you.


I don’t understand. How was this season not bad? Please. Explain to me how this was a successful season. If this season was successful, do you believe it was a season that would make world class players choose to play with us over, say Manchester City or Manchester United? Or even perhaps Liverpool?

This season was an utter failure. Claiming that it was successful is beyond laughable.


I didn’t say it was successful although fa cup is not bad …

Utter failure is equally a bit rediculous to be honest … We had a bad patch, aside from that we kicked arse.

John C

No, we suffered from a relative(in football terms) disaster!

Worst run of away results for 88 years and the worst 2 legged defeat of any English Club in European football EVER!!

Individually either 1 of those events should get a manager the sack let alone 2

Original Paul

John C.
So a two legged worst defeat ever means that the manager should get the sack?


The referee and behind-the-goal deadshit cunted us in the home second leg when we were leading 1-0 and flying.
Kos got red, Bayern had 12 men v 10. Fucking disgraceful, but nobody mentions that. The first leg was terrible tho. Needed Mertesacker to replace Kos then.
Sign Chris Wood from Leeds. First Kiwi to play for Arsenal. 30 goals last term. Much better than Sanogo.

Andy Mack

Funny you mentioned Sanogo as I don’t remember him having any part at all in the season… 😮


What’s appealing about playing for City once you ignore their bank balance?

What’s appealing about playing for United??? Is it the manner that they made the UEFA Consolation Cup prestigious? Or the fact that from the start of the season they have been expected to finish outside the top four (even with the most expensive player)

And Liverpool, LMAO. They are so sexy, especially with the 4th spot cup.


They’re playing in the CL, plain and simple.


“They’re playing in the CL, plain and simple.”

Then send a thank you card to Wenger for the last 20 years of consecutive CL football!!!

Lmao, we have been beating Wenger with the “CL football is not a successful season”, but this year is the exception.

Lack of Perspective

Sizc on the money. Cheers mate

John C

Because they have ambition and desire to win.

What’s appealing about playing for Arsenal once you ignore our bank balance?


A world respected manager (scoff all you want, it’s true) World class players (unless Sanchez and Ozil are not deemed so) One of a handful of clubs who can afford to pay more than £100,000 a week. Free flowing attacking football A genuine contender for the Premier League (again, scoff all you want, we are constantly touted as one of the favourites). These are things that players look for in a club. Pogba and Zlatan joined United without CL football and not having a snowball’s chance in hell at winning the league. Players don’t see teams the way you critically… Read more »

Faisal Narrage

Crystal Palace pay £100k a week.

At least don’t make stuff up.

Faisal Narrage

And when are we ever one of the favourites? We were 2 seasons back and still didn’t. We have to competed for almost a decade.

John Lukic

But John C, where was our ambition when we kept on qualifying for the CL year after year after year? Pretty sure you’ve said on countless occasions that it “wasn’t good enough”, “no ambition”, “no desire to win” and all that negative bile. Suddenly the team that finished fourth THIS season “have ambition”.
Not very consistant commentary is it?

John C

John Lukic, Finishing 4th isn’t ambitious, thats why Man City have already spent £44m on a new player and are about to spend another £35m on a goalkeeper. 4th isn’t good enough for them, although they finished 3rd, and they are, at least trying to put things right. Guardiola has already stated his performance would lead him to get the sack at other “big” clubs and has a lot of work to do, ours on the other hand said we were only 1 point off and that this team can win the league, as you can see there’s a significant… Read more »

Why not

Utter Failure = Fa Cup record wins….ok


Last time I checked, the FA Cup was still a trophy.

Please explain how ManU had a better season.


Err… they won two trophies.

Original Paul

Errr…we won the Cup? We also beat Citeh and Chelski very recently (in games they were desperate to win) using a different set up, so things are progressing well?

Ponsonby Gooner

Question; if we hadn’t suffered such a heavy defeat from Bayern, would the season have seemed such a failure? Personally I feel that the heavy defeats such as the 6-1 to Chelsea etc are the reason other clubs and the media find it so easy to look down at us. I don’t think there are any other ‘elite’ clubs in Europe that have suffered the amount of heavy losses we’ve suffered over the last 5 or so years.


I can guarantee you we will not win it next season . call me crazy but I call it being logical

Andy Mack

In the same way that at the end of the 14/15 season we could all guarantee Leicester would not win it in the 15/16 season… oh.. hang on… So No Guarantees in football…


Leicester winning the league was as close to a miracle in football if I’ve ever seen one. And you guys are comparing it to wenger winning the league , that says a lot about wenger. And exactly my point


Then let us know who is guaranteed to win the league next year, oh magical one.

Andy Mack

I’m only comparing it to you making guaranteed predictions. It’s the old saying “a wise man has doubts, only a fool is certain”…


Did your logic predict Leicester’s win?


we will not win the league next season. have you seen pep moves in the transfer market already. how are we going to compete with that with such a board and manager

Andy Mack

Did you see his moves last summer? He bought a GK!
He’s a good manager with good players but it can still take a season or two to get the best from a player and to get the team playing as a team…
They could walk it, or they could fail to qualify for the CL.
Time will tell.


Agreed. Hope he gets support from the fans in his final 2 years.


No guarantees it will be his final years I fear


Groundhog day = toxic atmosphere, it’s hard to prevent it. But we don’t know if it’ll happen or not, one thing for sure though we can’t out from CL round-16, so the focus is when we play against top 6 next season and how we run in the league. To all Wenger in fans out there, make it last contract for him, either he win any trophy or not, make it last, start preparation for a new era. If he win, then it’s good for him because he’ll leave us on high. If he can’t then no problem, at least… Read more »

just Orange

Hmm… I’m one of them and my reasons for wanting AW out – years of frustrations Next time we qualify for CL and are drawn against Baryen, AC, RM or Baca… we will shitting our pants “oh no… not again”. Honestly it should be the other way round. AW should have build Arsenal in to a formidable giant of a team that other teams should be scared to get drawn against. Arsene – the most experienced manager currently in the premier league had 21 years to achieve this, but he failed miserably. Unfortunately while other teams were progressing, he fell… Read more »

Glenn Helder

Failed miserably? Get a hold of yourself..


“Failed miserably”
WTF, are you Mouriniho in disguise???

Original Paul

I think the next time we play Citeh or Chelski they will be the one’s “shitting themselves”…progress my friend…keep the faith.

Midwest Gooner

293 votes up
54 votes down
proof of the overblown “wenger out” coverage by the media. negativity sells.
We. Won. The. Cup.


If you consider thumbs up ratings as proof… Also many other Wenger out comments are 50/50. This one comment is strongly backed because of calling to get behind the team and accept the decision, which I will, but does not change that it was mistake in March/April and it is still a mistake now. Also blaming the board is the favorite deflection ploy, even if not backed by any real evidence, as above comments indicate.

Andy Mack

The Internet is never a great reflection of the support as there’s a lot of older supporters that aren’t internet users and would never consider looking at an internet football ‘forum’.

Original Paul

488 say “get behind the team”
86 disagree with that.
I make that approximately 85% of fans on here saying let’s move on and forget the manager out stuff.
I think we should do that. COYG.


At the highest level, Wenger has demonstrated again and again that he is not an elite manager. He’s good, but not elite. The board may well not be up to appointing a new manager but we’ll never find out until Wenger is gone. He’s the paper covering the cracks, and he needs to be ripped out for the club to progress.


Do only elite managers go an entire season unbeaten, win the FA Cup a record number of times, change an entire nation’s outlook on managing a football team? Howe is a good manager, Wenger is a legendary manager. Despite him being whatever name he is called this week by so called fans, he has still gotten us 3 trophies in the last 4 years. I remember during our barren spell how people would have sold their first borns to have gotten any trophy. Now that we’ve won 3 in the last 4 years, our complaint is that he’s nothing better… Read more »

David C

I’m happy about it. I know the ole Professeur can’t go on forever so a change is gonna come eventually. I don’t mind more Wenger and I think it will help us keep Ozil/Sanchez.


The board did not prepare the players for bayern home and away. 10 fucking 2.

Andy Mack

They didn’t ref the games either or get Kozzer injured.
Your point?

Sheffield Goon

I’m not sorry. 3 cups in 4 years ain’t bad.

Many pointed out that top 4 was not a trophy. Well, we didn’t get that this year, we got a real trophy instead, so let’s be happy.


Agreed. At the start of every season fans always ask the same question, “top 4 or trophy?”
Being arrogant, we say both, but then when we have to pick, inevitably most choose trophy.
So yes, it is a disappointment not to be top 4, but hey, we have a trophy and that is what we wanted more!

Reality check

Winning fa cup is not a sign of progress our previous 2 wins proved that, Wigan’s and Portsmouth’s wins prove that, Its just a good feeling for a day or two. Finishing 18 points short of the champs is not progress.

Andy Mack

You can’t seriously compare winning one year in … how many for Wigan/Pompey, and us winning 3 years out of 4 (does 3 out of 5 make you feel better?).
Get a grip…

Reality check

My point was progress made but PL and CL performances doesn’t show any.

Fed up Gooner

Finally a Gooner with a sense of perspective. What elite Manager allows his star performers to fid themselves in the final year of their contracts? or lets an emerging force experience the humiliation of not even being offered one?

Andy Mack

For some teams it’s nothing to do with the manager as he won’t be in the job for more than a year or two.
But many top managers have been in this position. Desperately trying to get players to sign with 24 months on their contract and it drags on until the last 12 months.




It is what it is… can we all support the club now and get behind the greatest manager this club and the FA cup has ever had!


Agreed. He may not be perfect but he’s Arsenal and that counts for a lot


Confirmed on BBC. This should be fun…*gets popcorn

Double doubles



if he stays, he focuses on coaching the team and leaves the rest to everyone else. He’s football mad, and needs to be allowed to just focus on that . I hope the board give him everything he needs to succeed otherwise things could get very nasty.


If there are no better options available then I’m happy he has signed.


Thomas Tuchel just left BVB

I love Arsene Wenger

Sacked by a team that is a huge step down from the mighty Arsenal.

The grass is always greener.

I love Arsene Wenger.


I love Arsene Wenger too. He’s the best manager we’ve ever had and likely the best we will ever have. But he needs to retire. I’d take four years of mid table shit like they’ve had at United over the same old craziness that we’ve had for past 10 years and will now get for next two. We all know how it goes…… summer of hype about big contracts for Alexis and Ozil, only for Alexis to leave. Big hype about signing top quality CF, only to pick up someone we’ve never heard of on transfer deadline day. We fuck… Read more »


Please read your comment again. You would rather Arsenal be a mid table club than to win 3 trophies in 4 years?

I’m not going to suggest you go follow Everton, but perhaps you should follow a Barcelona or Bayern or another sport altogether.


I just want something’s different. It been the sameness for so long. I love the optimism and enthusiasm of those folks who say look how wonderful we’ve been over the last 9 games and surely we can compete for Premier League next year with this new formation. But I’ve seen/heard this for the last 10 summers. And I strongly suspect it will be je same this summer. That’s the point. I’d suffer a few seasons of weakened performance to allow us to then move in positive direction over this slow painful 10 year decline of mediocrity. And yes, of course… Read more »

Andy Mack

‘A few seasons of weakened performances’ is why big clubs like Villa, Forest, Newcastle and Leeds weren’t in the PL last season.
That’s a risk no club can take intentionally, so I’d suggest you visit a shrink to work though your issues instead.


Yeah, why should we try something different? Let’s stick to the guy who brought us success at the beginning of last decade and not much else.

Look at Barcelona. If somebody mentioned Valverde as a replacement for Wenger, everybody would be saying he’s not good enough for a club of this size. Yet he’s good enough for one of three biggest clubs in the world.

If you’re fine with Arsenal being a cup team, good for you. I think we should aspire to more.

Original Paul

Barcelona are Barcelona regardless of manager. The new bloke just sits in the chair. No comparison there imo.


You are so right.

Andy Mack

In a 3 club league where you’re income is already guaranteed, it’s a lot easier to take risks.

Moral High ground

Incredible arrogance. Arsenal better than Dortmund. Just ask Bayern what they hunk, they would laugh in your face. I am so disappointed at the general tone of the comments here. Head in sand. Look again at our long term track record against title rivals. Dismal. People on here extrapolating the magnifence of Saturday and forgetting the dismal nature of our multi year squad management, transfer ineptitude and tactical mishaps. Really pathetic fellow gooners. Really pathetic. Please let’s be more ambitious and let Arsene go with a massive cheer. Welcoming this news?! I just DO NOT get it.

Original Paul

Where can I buy me some “magnifence” ?? It sounds great for my garden!
Sorry, couldn’t help it. 🙂


If you’ve followed BvB this season then you know Tuchel’s not really a substantially better option: no real title challenge, just edging CL qualification, league cup. More of the same he would be.


Thomas Tuchel was just fired from BVB! And since when Tuchel is better than Wenger ?


What makes you think Tuchel will be better than Wenger?
Genuin question, not meant to be rhetorical.


I reckon he might not have an immediate impact, so no he is not a better option right now. As things stand, I believe nobody is a better option as the club lacks the structure that can smoothly embed a new manager and such a move should have been planned well in advance. This being said, Tuchel is an young attacking minded manager, obsessed with details, tactics and opponent analysis. Speaks good English, studied physiotherapy, sports science and graduated in business economics. He believes in possession football and gives his teams a very direct approach. Develops young players. All in… Read more »

John Lukic

Coz the media said so and what they say is gospel innit


He was sent off after 2 years of being in conflict with club leadership. The board would never go for that here.

Fed up Gooner

Allegri, Simeone should all have been approached. Not one was. Piss poor ambition, non existent succession plan.

Andy Mack

Please tell us how you’re certain they weren’t approached?


thomas tuchel is not that good.

Fed up Gooner

Manager’s are MADE available. Money and prestige talks.

Andy Mack

And that’s always successful… Not!


I’d rather see this with a very clear goal of preparing the club for his departure over the next two years (including a statement that this will be his final contract), than him leave and us spend summer trying to find a replacement as well as trying to hold on to Ozil and Sanchez AND try to strengthen.

The grass isn’t always greener, look at United.

Uba Ngenegbo

How about looking at Chelsea who sacked their most successful manager and won the league.


They actually have a proper organization in place though. We don’t. We need that before we can start replacing managers every few years, so we don’t allow every scrap of footballing knowledge to walk out the door when the manager leaves.


Well said. Its a toss up between letting all football knowledge go and the prospect of proper change in the management structure. I cant see them saying this is going to be his last deal, however. The board has to change first of all, even if Kroenke isnt going to go we need to at least get people in that have football knowledge and can help Wenger and help move the club forward past when Wenger decides its time to go.


Yes, Chelsea was well versed in Manager-go-round at the time already. That and they already had a solid starting 11, and one of the most potent creative mid / striker combos in europe, even if they were a bit shallow. That and they didn’t have to compete in Europe depleting their energy and causing overuse injuries or big form drops for their key players which we definitely felt. We’ll see how it goes next season with more matches for them to play.


And whos fault is that? Arsene interviewed gazidis for fucks sake. Arsene refuses to relinquish any control over the club.
Kroenke has no idea what a football club is. This club is run by one man and if we have no structure then its that one mans fault.


Who made or allowed the decision to have Arsene interview Gazidis? You haven’t chased the problem far enough up.

The board and ownership own this structure whether they built it or not because it was their decisions regardless of whether they were taken actively or passively. It is their job to plan for succession or see when it needs to happen. If any of these stories we’ve been pummelled with are true, that’s what they’re finally doing.

Wenger has been carrying their water and acting as their shield most of his tenure.


Serious question.what in your opinion could the board have done to improve on this season. If you dont see it as arsenes fault then clearly the board have made mistakes on the team front ? Bearing in mind you have to ok what is done by arsene before its a clhb policy ie director of football .
Arsene is as complicit as the board in all this and visa vesa


IF they planned to keep Wenger all along, have the stones to say to him No, you can’t put everything on hold until the end of the season to decide if you’re staying. It’s toxic right now. It must be fixed. If some of the supporters don’t like that, take some of their own damned heat for once, so Wenger and the players can focus on the matches. Stop dithering on contract negotiations and sign extensions for Alexis and Ozil earlier. Or if they were pressuring Wenger by holding off on his contract, fess up earlier so it’s clear to… Read more »


Mpls. In an ideal world your right and i agree with you. The board should have had the Bollox to announce his contract when it was signed months ago and they should also have the nuts to enforce things on wenger that they think are good for the club wether he agrees with them or not. But in that scenario he may walk away and say he can’t work like that. The mans love to control all facets of the club it seems so the board are a bit stuffed really.


They sacked their most successful manager because he’s a poisonous individual who completely lost it having seen his team lose 9 out of 16 games. They ended up finishing 10th that season. You can’t compare the two.


Spot on.

5th (Narrowly), FA cup win, plus the need to sign Alexis and Ozil for the long term.

Wenger signing makes sense on many levels, to compare our situation to that of Chelsea (who, incidentally, we just beat to make John Terry miserable) who finished 10th, no silverware etc is unfair to Wenger.

a different George

Mourinho was in his third season at the club, after a succession of several other managers, some of whom had been quite successful. Wenger has run Arsenal for two decades. So, not a valid comparison. (I mean on the football level–on the human level, there is no need to point out the differences between Wenger and Mourinho.)


How about not looking at Chelsea?


Everyone that says look at United when Ferguson left, seems to miss one very large fact. Ferguson continually won leagues and competed in the CL. We haven’t competed for either for ten years!

Andy Mack

It’s about what happened after he left. Before has sweet FA to do with it…


That comparison really doesn’t make sense if for no other reason than Ferguson didn’t go more than 2-3 years without winning the league and was competing for the Champions League as well. I love Wenger but he’s not an equal to Ferguson – Ferguson was routinely able to reinvent himself and win.


We start winning trophy since Fergie left though, maybe it’s because we won’t meet Fergie’s united at the cup. ???


Listen I’m happy about the FA Cup but it’s a competition where you only play 6 games and 3 of those against lower league competition. The real marker is how far we finish off the league winners – the league requires consistency which we quite frankly don’t have. We have a team that can compete for a game or two but not on a regular basis with the best teams.


I’m also happy with it, but a little bit disappointed with how the club sees it. If we ambitious enough, we should consider this year as a failure like United did with Van Gaal. The way i see it, our club real target is to finish top 4 and FA cup, that’s the only explanation why Wenger still in charge after so many years we can’t challenge the league, needless to say CL, he even can’t win it with the invincible.


He’s signed and so at the end of the day we just need to support the team and hope that this year woke Wenger up to his failings. What concerns me is we’re simply putting off the inevitable b/c Wenger won’t allow anyone else to come in and share power with him. So in 2 years we’ll just be in the same place we are now. Hopefully though at that point the board will realize if it wants to move on it can’t wait until June.


@ Atom

Just for the record, history shows that Ferguson only won his first league title at Utd after he’d already been in the job for six or seven years.

John C

And the FA Cup after 3, European Cup Winners Cup after 4 and the League Cup after 5, not really sure what your point is?


But he continued to win. We haven’t meaningfully competed for the league or cl in over a decade

Moral High ground

Sample size of one. One club. Crap argument. Look at Chelsea. Changed managers. Been successful. Please can you realise that this is an awful, flimsy argument for keeping Arsene.


Complains about sample size of one. Proceeds to present different example, also of sample size one.


20 more years

Godfrey Twatsloch

Make it 200 more years!

Mr Eko

Disappointed, but not surprised. Best we can do now is to get behind the team and hope for the best.


Realistically, who would you have liked to come in to replace him and who available do you think would have done a better job than him this season?


Allegri. Or Conte last season. Or Klopp season before that. Maybe you should and watch Bayern thrashing to remind you where Wenger got this club in Europe.


5-1 in likes – coincidence?


Yes but none of those are available now. Who out of the managers realistically available to Arsenal would do a better job?


There are managers around and there always will be. Just look at the crop of younger managers doing great work across europe. No body is indispensable, somebody somewhere will come in with fresh ideas and do a better job. Look at Zidane at real madrid. Yes he has great players at his disposal but his work there has been magnificent.


Allegri is probably not leaving Juve this season. Conte and Klopp are irrelevant now.

Lord\'s Left Foot

Joachim Loew mate.


Luis Enrique


The manager of grampus eight. How about him.
I suppose you are one of those geniuses that knew wenger before he came and knew he’d be a success.
Take a gamble like we did years ago. To say thier is no one out thier is rediculas.


He wasn’t just the manager of Grampus 8 though was he. He won the league title at Monaco building a very strong side attracting the likes of Hoddle, Weah and Klinsmann. Why gamble on someone now when we can plan his replacement over the next 2 years?