Club payments to agents revealed by the FA

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Arsenal finances

The FA have released details of the fees paid by every club in England to agents and intermediaries for the last year.

In total Arsenal paid out £11,181,730, the eighth largest amount in the Premier League, during the last two transfer windows. That covers signings such as Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and Lucas Torreira, as well as a number of outgoings.

Premier League clubs spent a ridiculou £260,2664,118 on intermediaries in total.

The Telegraph reports that there’s a consensus that such spending needs to be curtailed and that the Premier League’s 20 shareholders will discuss the end of dual representation – when an agent can get their hands on cash at both ends of a deal.

It looks as though FIFA is joining forces with the clubs on this front with fees seemingly out of control.

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Anonymarse
Anonymarse

Pretty grotesque

Chamakhyungpark
Chamakhyungpark

Yeh, it is. So are the transfer fees, players wages and stadium admission fees.

Football has lost the plot.

It’s all about money and it’s really sad.

HelderHughes
HelderHughes

How is this any different to entertainment where an agent takes 10-15% of an artists fee for brokering the deal? Not sure what all the fuss is about…

If we want to talk about the gross amount of money in the premier league, say goodbye to Ozil and Aubameyang and say hello to Troy Deeney and Charlie Austin.

Leno me, I’ll be your friend
Leno me, I’ll be your friend

I get your point, but it’s kind of like saying it’s ok to be a parasite if others are doing it. The more of these types that are out there in different industries the more and more worse off the rest of us will be financially. You take agents fees out of the Premier League and all of a sudden you could make matchday tickets far more affordable.
Also, this is a football blog so bringing another industry in is a bit of a distraction that could be avoided, it’s pretty much irrelevant what goes on elsewhere when the contect is football. And equally, it’s like saying bank managers get paid stupidly high bonuses so why shouldn’t others? I think people in general are just sick of all these types of folk who basically jump in the middle of deals to quickly line their pockets while the rest of us work 35-50hour weeks to get a fraction of what they do.

In (minimal) defence of entertainment industry agents they do have a harder job with their clients at the younger ages/amateur level, they’re more likely to have taken on further eduction in business and/or law, their networking ability and links have to be really strong (think of radio, TV and film being like different sports, and then genres being like each of those sports alternate rules versions) just to get their client beyond adverts and extra roles (even when given a role actors aren’t supposed to go beyond that, but a player on the pitch has the freedom to impress as much as they’re capable of – making the agents job easier).
To be fair it’s largely the high-end sports agents that are ruining it for all, they attach themselves to already established players (ones low-level agents have already done the hard work for) and just slyly haggle with as many clubs as they can to get the best deal for themselves, whereas the vast majority/possibly all of big profile entertainment agents are well aware that they are working for someone bigger than themselves and can at any point be shown the door. Additionally high profile football agents can get as high as 30%+ of a transfer fee, whereas in entertainment it seems to go little higher than 10% (unless their is some form of contract manipulation to help an actor work for a different studio or other mitigating circumstances), although there are always going to be exceptions, justifiable or not.

Sorry if I come across as though I’m trying to prove you wrong, I’m not, just giving you my take on what I’ve learned 😊

Leno me, I’ll be your friend
Leno me, I’ll be your friend

Sorry, that was rambly and poorly written, had a skinful and on a rickety train home…
I think 🤞🏻

HelderHughes
HelderHughes

I think a lot of this is to do with the negative connotations we put on people who make a lot of money now. We hate Stan, we hate bankers, we hate the 1%, we hate YouTube stars, we hate football agents. We scream “how much is he on?” every time our star man misses a chance. We berate the Arsenal Fan TV guy because he spotted something we didn’t and made a tonne of money off it.

And if you think the club would lower ticket prices if it had an extra 11m in the bank, you’re way off. As long as there’s demand for tickets, the price will always increase. The club is a business and unless you want to build a time machine, go back to 92 and stop the premier league being brought into existence, we all need to get used to the fact that some people are going to make a lot of money out of our passion.

As for parasites, come on man. Like it or not, agents play a vital role in football. We love transfers, we live for transfers. And as much as you can argue that players like Sami Nasri or Alex Song may have been spirited away by pushy agents, how do you know that Torreira‘s agent, Guendouzi’s agent, Lacazette’s agent… didn’t help us get our man?

Don Cazorleone
Don Cazorleone

Hey! We’ll have none of that valid reasoning around here thank you very much. Now go get your pitchfork, we’re off to shout at the agents today.

Leno me, I’ll be your friend
Leno me, I’ll be your friend

I have tried to reply to your comment but it’s not made it through moderation after several hours (it’s neither offensive or contains any swear words…), and due to the quick paced nature of Blogs’ News it’s soon going to be ‘yesterday’s news’ (although literally already is haha). So I’m just going to say we’ll agree to disagree, HelderHughes. Enjoy your weekend 👍

Merlin’s Panini
Merlin’s Panini

It’s different because an agent in the entertainment industry takes part of the fee that goes to the artist not also additional fees from the venue/record label etc.
Agents are there to promote the talent and arrange work for them.
Agents in football are like leeches feeding off the talent of someone else because they have become too greedy to the point they also charge the people providing the work. It’s disgusting.

HelderHughes
HelderHughes

Parasites… Leeches… They are just doing their jobs and the good ones know how to make it as profitable as possible. You don’t think private surgeons, accountants, business owners, blog runners… don’t work out ways to make their work as profitable as they can on a daily basis? And if they can get a pay day from more than one source are they supposed to ignore that as it’s too greedy?

We aren’t living in soviet Russia, it’s capitalism. And until we come up with a better alternative, people are allowed to make as much money as they physically can.

Leno me, I’ll be your friend
Leno me, I’ll be your friend

I didn’t actually say that I, or anyone else, hate these people, just that, understandably we’re sick of people being overpaid to such ridiculous amounts. I also didn’t say that agents shouldn’t exist, just that the high-end ones are escalating fees which is having a direct effect on clubs and their fans. Having worked in places that have seen clubs go under, I can not stress enough the economical impact that overspending in football has, clubs’ hands are often forced by agents to spend beyond their means, and it’s largely for the agents’ benefit. Honestly, most football players just want to play for a decent club and take home a tidy wage, it’s the agents who convince them to always ask for more. And regarding agents’ fees, what’s wrong with the top ones taking home £700k a year instead of £7m? It’s this inability to rationalise that is damaging the game beyond an easy fix. Someone can still have an extremely luxurious life with a yearly salary that doesn’t exceed a million pounds. There comes a point when it simply reaches unjustified greed, and we hit that point over ten years ago…
Also, the people you’ve listed are often disliked for other reasons, not necessarily money. I can’t stand AFTV because it turns our club, a once highly respected club renowned for it’s classy and dignified approach, into yet another media circus where they give people who are only serving their own egos an opportunity to wax lyrical on camera despite a distinct lack of knowledge of the game. I dislike many youtube stars because they’re self-absorbed morons who act like they’re saving the world when it takes so much away from truly selfless people who do charitable/righteous work that goes unnoticed. And whilst I can’t speak for anyone else, my immediate reaction when a footballer misses a glorious chance is to feel bad for them, I never scream “how much is he on?”. But people are allowed to do that, the moment we stop questioning those above us is the moment we truly open ourselves up to the possibility of living under a tyrannical dictatorship; critical thinking stimulates the mind and improves the communities we each live in, it’s an essential part of evolution.

Leno me, I’ll be your friend
Leno me, I’ll be your friend

The thing that really irks people about agents is when they hear things like Mino Raiola got £15-20m for brokering x players deal (and they can do this several times a transfer window giving them up to £50m a year), and that’s the difference, all the alternatives you’ve brought up are nowhere near the bonus levels of top-tier football agents, it’s a rather incomparable comparison to make.
There’s such a huge difference between a brain surgeon taking home £300k a year for saving lives than an agent taking home £6million a year for being a greedy disgrace that it’s disappointing you’d try to justify a claim with such an example. If you think people are sickened by others getting paid more I think you’ve drastically missed the entire point. Say hypothetically I have a standard income, do I detest those who rake in ten times as much for saving lives? No, of course not. But do I find the fact that youtubers get twenty times what I do for finding an easy route in life? It’s frustrating but there’s better ways to spends ones’ energy. Do I resent football agents who earn fifty times what I do by effectively driving up the price of my season ticket and overall match day experience? Now you’re getting an idea that it’s drastic difference that angers, not that there’s simply a difference.

Leno me, I’ll be your friend
Leno me, I’ll be your friend

And I’m not saying clubs would reduce prices, but equally, you can’t say they wouldn’t. Maybe Arsenal wouldn’t (but that’s because we have Stan – further enhancing my point) but I can think of at least a dozen clubs that would do. And I think the general feeling towards clubs from fans would be far more amicable if that £11m was put towards buying a pacy young winger (Guendouzi was £8m – so it is possible, albeit tricky) than a group of agents, I think everyone would agree on that. I just used tickets as an example, there’s a number of areas where fans would rather see their money go than the silk-lined glove box of an agent’s Jaguar.
Regarding our ‘love for transfers’ we’ve been bamboozled into this by the red top rags dramatising it – don’t forget that transfer records being broke used to be met with nationwide disgust (unless you had a biased approach as you support the team making the purchase), it was the media that normalised it. If you sat each football fan down individually and spoke to them about what they really want at a club, the vast majority would probably say success over anything else. And the media have led us to believe that big transfers are the only ticket to success. For me personally I’d rather spend an afternoon talking about/reading tactical analysis, memories of great games, up and coming youth prospects far more than transfers. I think this whole ‘everyone loves transfers’ is hugely incorrect, yes the younger fans love it as they want bragging rights and don’t understand the weight of financial decisions, but most mature football fans I’ve spoken to have far more humble priorities in the game.

And I’m sorry but if you look into the long-term economic forecasts in a society driven by capitalism you’ll quickly stop justifying it. In short, it’s horrifically unsustainable. In 2008 we had a brief glimpse when the housing market collapsed (as too many estate agents/companies were lining their own pockets by selling to inappropriate buyers so they could take a hefty cut), but what happens when a number of industries collapse simultaneously? Capitalism is a huge problem, and that’s fact not theory, and we’re quickly reaching it’s limit. The USA, leaders of capitalism, is in $19trillion worth of debt, and it’s perpetual, they’ll never be able to get themselves out, and we’re seeing the effect it has with heightened tensions and tariffs with other super powers, trade wars loom around every possible political falling out. And that’s not even mentioning the massive damage to infrastructure and local communities that is occurring at increasingly frightening rates.

Please don’t be ‘black and white’ and suggest that the only alternative notion is socialism, there are so many theories on economics and politics that leading people to believe it can only be one or the other is tantamount to political fear-mongering.

Leno me, I’ll be your friend
Leno me, I’ll be your friend

I get what you’re saying and very much appreciate your point, but the fact you are driving a huge wedge between alternate possibilities and sensationalising much of your response makes it hard to rationalise your point of view. If I were to take your equal approach from the alternate side, would you appreciate me making out that you love football agents taking so much money? Me saying you love capitalism? That you massively admire AFTV because he came up with such an idea? Let’s be practical and just realise neither of us are glued to either side and that exaggerations are needless distractions, there are always plenty ways to bridge the gaps, and enough alternatives to never be bereft of new possibilities 😊👍

Apologies for the exhaustive response, don’t feel obliged to read it. It’s just personally I feel discussions on economics and the effects caused should be detailed and not trivialised by summary, where possible.

Gana
Gana

Liverpool paid more intermediary fee than our transfer budget for the upcoming window.

Giovani
Giovani

That’s sad and funny

SizC
SizC

Off topic, but I’ll be happy if we pay a record amount this summer to an agent who can offload Mustafi!

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

We might have to pay another club to take him

Sigwell
Sigwell

What did sp*rs get for their £11m? 😂

Joe71
Joe71

yeah! How did they spend as much as Arsenal when they did not sign anyone!!

DB’s first touch
DB’s first touch

Contract extensions/negotiations?

Goonereality
Goonereality

Not sure, but it hasn’t stopped the Spuds announcing world record profits of £117 million – albeit just over £80 million of that was through player sales. I’m just glad that we’re very much a mid-table club in the agent’s fees league.

Wilsheres Middle Finger
Wilsheres Middle Finger

The agent’s fees league – you win 😂

TeeCee
TeeCee

A toilet that large needs a lot of cleaners.

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

Disgusting. That’s the money that you an I hand over to the club, directly and indirectly, hoping to see a great team emerge.

In the old days players were screwed over by clubs: now it’s the other way. Agents are parasites.

Cacho
Cacho

Part of the trouble I think is that the agents for Brazilian players often times “own” a percentage of a player, around 10% is typical I believe. I wonder if that’s maybe why in the past 10 years Arsenal have signed so few Brazilians because of the massive agent fees. A player like Gabriel Jesus for example was relatively cheap at 35 million euros, but there’s no telling how much City had to pay in agent fees. That surely would’ve put off Wenger in a big way.

Goonereality
Goonereality

I guess that it’s inevitable in the modern game that there will be pretty substantial agents fees, but £260 million in total is, frankly, obscene. That’s money sucked out of the game for, at best, “arrangers”. Luckily, Arsenal don’t feature too high up – it’s one case where a mid-table position isn’t too bad.

Jermaine Pedant
Jermaine Pedant

£260,2664,118 is even more ridiculous than £260,664,118

Hantal
Hantal

How does one become an intermediary? I want a slice of this pie

Ad-O
Ad-O

I dont care about this to be honest. Its distasteful, but clubs will just pay the players the difference, and then the player will pay the agent. Its regulation for regulation’s sake. Nobody will save even £1

Russ
Russ

I’m definitely in the wrong job….

Wilsheres Middle Finger
Wilsheres Middle Finger

Why don’t they repace the agents with a football version of Tinder. Cuts out the middle man.
Just picture it, your a Technical Director for a top club looking for a CB swiping away – Mustafi-swipe left, Smalling-swipe left, Jones-swipe left, Umtiti-swipe right.
‘Hey Umtiti, nice profile, you wana sign for my club? 📱

Usmanov
Usmanov

😂 😂 😂 This has got to be the funniest thing I’ve read all year

The Mickster
The Mickster

At least Liverpool won that league 😂

Teryima Adi
Teryima Adi

The agents are having a field day. No pun intended.

Arsarch14
Arsarch14

The fact that Spurs spent the same as us shows this is not just about signings but contract renewals too