Report: Koscielny set for €5m Bordeaux move

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According to ESPN, Laurent Koscielny will today finalise a move to Bordeaux.

The Arsenal skipper has been keen to exit the club since refusing to go on the summer tour, and has spent weeks training with the youngsters.

Attempts to mend fences with the 33 year old have ended in failure, and whatever breakdown there has been over his contract appears now to be completely irreconcilable.

A fee of around €5m is being reported, with Arsenal unwilling to bend to the player’s desire to be allowed leave for free. The Frenchman signed a contract keeping him at the club until 2020 in 2017, and even posted about it on Twitter:

Whatever has happened is a real shame, as after nine years he’ll leave under a cloud.

We’ve yet to fully hear his side of the story, or why he thought he should be let go for free, but no doubt it will come out in the wash sooner or later.

Official confirmation could come today.

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CampBerg
CampBerg

Love him. Will miss him.

Georgeycharles
Georgeycharles

Will miss him, but after all his shenanigans, find it hard to love him.

Robm
Robm

One wonders if his shenanigans are in response to shenanigans from our leadership.

If, for example, someone told you “I promise that at the end of the year a thing will happen”, then when you went to see them at the end of the year waffled “what does ‘promise’ even mean in today’s world anyway?” at you, you’d feel hurt and disappointed.

You’d probably want no more to do with them.

I’d personally want to know both sides of the story before judging him as this does seem out of character.

Kwame Ampadu Down
Kwame Ampadu Down

Robm, my employer has made literally dozens of promises over the years that they failed to deliver on. It’s something people in the real world have to deal with all of the time. Ordinary people just have to suck it up. I don’t see why I should have sympathy for a footballer who it happens to, who earns more in a week than I do in a year.

Robm
Robm

Kwame, my former employer made a lot of promises. That’s why they’re my *former* employer. I didn’t have to ‘suck it up’ and neither do you.

I don’t condone what Klos has done. It might be that if/when his side of the story comes out I think “FFS, really?”, but until I know his side I’m reserving judgement, balancing what I think about his actions now against his actions throughout the rest of his career with us.

Kwame Ampadu Down
Kwame Ampadu Down

I should have said ’employers’ as I meant all of them do it. You have to suck it up until you find a new employer at least….and that’s what Kos should have done. Going on strike (which is really what he did) is not acceptable regardless of what was said to him.

RobM
RobM

As I said, I don’t condone what he’s done. Regardless of how justified he might be in his dissatisfaction with the club I feel that he’s gone about expressing it the wrong way (though at least he’s not mouthing off in the press).

Regardless, for me, I’m going to try and remember the good moments over the bad.

HelderHughes
HelderHughes

My boss thought my name was Kevin and called me Kev for three months.

My name isn’t Kevin.

goonero
goonero

Hahaha, yeah right, because when those promises to you were broken you were really saying “damn it all if I didn’t love this company so much I’d leave them!”.

If you had reasonable alternatives you would leave to improve your situation, hating on the fact that Koscielny can just because you can’t is really quite pathetic. “If I can’t be happy why the fuck should be be allowed?!” Is what it sounds like you’re saying.

Kwame Ampadu Down
Kwame Ampadu Down

Bloody hello goonero, with that level of vitriol you should be worrying about your own happiness mate, not mine.

goonero
goonero

Right, you’re projecting here, I said nothing about your happiness, I just think it’s silly of you to use “people put up with shit from their employers all the time” as a condemnation of Koscielny, as if a) that’s a good thing and b) that’s not a situation anyone in the world who’s not some sort of masochist would rather avoid if possible.

Most of us can’t afford to get things our way in the workplace. We’ve got bills and responsibilities and our options are fewer and farther between than your average international footballer, lifes not fair, shocking stuff! Fortunately for Koscielny, he can do something about it. And the thing he’s making a stand for clearly isn’t money or fame or status or trophies or anything like that, he just wants comfort and a lower workload, so he can do what he loves at less risk to his health, which a well meaning person would actually recommend for him at this point in his career, and not begrudge him and chastise him for. You can question his methods fine, but why not also question the club putting him in a position where he felt that was his only out?

You see plenty of cases in professional sports where an employer takes advantage of his employees, milks them for what their worth, builds his brand and profits of their backs and the employee at the end of the day is left saddled with debt, physically crippled and emotionally devastated. From professional wrestling and combat sports to American football to gymnastics, in every sport you’ll find the same story; people who either had no choice or chose to stick by a company in a business practice that was costing them more than they could ever be compensated for in the long term. It’s particularly obvious with fighters, but you can see it many more proffessions, when people are jaded, at their limit physically or mentally and forced/chose/coerced into continuing to their own detriment, until they are no burned out and no longer useful and cast aside. And yes for Koscielny this may be less extreme than other cases in other sports and proffessions, his life is not immediately at risk or anything, but the point remains, you should never compromise your long term health for anything if you can avoid it. That’s true always and for everything, and anyone telling you different doesn’t care about you so much as they care about what they can get from you.

If you feel like you’ve gone as far as you can with something, and you have a record that speaks to that, you have every right to call it quits when you feel it’s time. Because the “employer” or “cause” who you are giving your time/effort/health/sanity for, there’s nothing to say they will compensate you in a way that makes up for what you will suffer long term. If they are not contractually obligated or otherwise legally mandated to do so, chances are they won’t out of the “goodness of their hearts”. And I may have gone on a tangent but I think I’ve made my point clearly enough. And shit, Koscielny could sign for Bordeaux, fuck up his Achilles the day after and never kick a football again, but that’s the risk he’s decided he’s ok with taking. He doesn’t want to risk himself trying to deliver for this club anymore, that’s his choice.

At the end of it all though I’m sorry to say you have to be cold in the heart not to sympathize with the player in a case like this. Yes he’s well payed, yes he owes the club a lot, yes he has more responsibility as a captain than he did before, but does he owe his long term health and peace of mind? Fuck no.

kaius
kaius

“He doesn’t want to risk himself trying to deliver for this club anymore, that’s his choice”

Nope – it is not his choice.

While under contract he does not have the right to unilaterally decide when to call it quits. What he can do is put in a transfer request.

What are we even talking about his long-term health for? Is he retiring or something? Koscielny has been an absolute warrior for this club – but some of these excuses people are inventing for him are laughable.

Georgeycharles
Georgeycharles

A whole lot of assumptions there. The only facts we know, are that Kos signed a contract until 2020, but has wanted out since Arsene left. As a consequence, someone at the club might well have been forced to “bargain” with Kos about playing last season and maybe he perceives that deal has somehow been broken. But, circumstances change and as a professional footballer under contract, and let’s not forget a very well paid millionaire, we should be able to expect him to honour that and act in the best interests of his club.

TUMANG BOKABA
TUMANG BOKABA

its odd how some fans are so intent on being on his side and yet others have been treated differently.

RobM
RobM

I’m prepared to cut a player _some_ slack when they’ve been a good player for the club, played consistently as possible through the pain barrier, helped us win things, etc.

I’m not “on his side”, I’m simply suggesting that what is happening may be more nuanced than we might all thing.

Georgeycharles
Georgeycharles

It’s exactly because of his legacy and the position he had attained within the club, that I find his recent behaviour so hard to forgive. If anyone understands how damaging his manoeuvring is to the club’s efforts finally to build a competitive team, then it’s Kos and it’s going to take a lot more than nuance for me to see any justification in his actions. This is not some lowly employee, being screwed over by “the man”. This is a very wealthy and highly rewarded sportsman, with a whole team of professionals behind him. Whatever verbal agreement he thinks he might have had, perhaps with the previous regime, perhaps more recent, he and his team know full well that you shouldn’t sign a contract and take the considerable rewards it offers, unless you want to be held to it. And let’s face it, the signs were there that Kos’s judgement can be a bit off; his blyth assumption that he might have moved away from the club (and his contract) when Arsene left, only to be prevented by his subsequent injury and then his rather cranky behaviour when France won the WC. For me this is a very good player (not without his flaws), who until now has built a good career with the club and in turn has been well rewarded and well treated. His recent actions, whatever justification he might think he has, are unprofessional and badly judged and have let down the fans, his teammates and himself and I find that very disappointing… and sad.

Martin Dufosse
Martin Dufosse

Legacy.?????. He’s not Tony Adams or Frank Mcintock. Bang average at best.

kaius
kaius

Sorry, but every player at the club plays through the pain barrier. Carry on hoping some other fact comes out so you can use it to whitewash our club captain refusing to go on tour like a petulant mercenary.

There’s no good explanation for wanting your contract terminated just so you can get a free transfer to a club in a nice part of France (and btw Bordeaux freed up a CB spot by selling a defender for 25m euros. Why should Arsenal give them a free replacement?).

Promises? The best promise you can give a player like Koscielny who’s over 30 and has injury worries is a long-term deal. Most 30 yr old players never get that kind of security at top clubs.

But that’s exactly what Arsenal gave him, and this is what he’s done with it.

RobM
RobM

“Sorry, but every player at the club plays through the pain barrier”
*cough* Ozil *cough*

kaius
kaius

Exactly, this is the whole problem with your silly argument.

We don’t excuse unprofessional behaviour from Ozil. Why should we excuse it from the person who’s supposed to be the club captain? He’s supposed to set high standards.

Bulky
Bulky

A valid and professional CONTRACT, signed/renewed/extended by him…As a professional, you honour it, and it is for a year unlike most regular professional contracts. Pleeease!

High gunner
High gunner

they say time heals all wounds.. sometimes they are right.. we shall see.. but Kos have meant too much for this club to just be forgotten imo

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

I don

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

Sorry, new phone, lot of hitting the wrong key.
Won’t prevent from saying:
Good Riddance !

Ivan the Terrible

Sigh! I despair.

Robm
Robm

Likewise. What a shame it’s ended up like this.

TommyGun
TommyGun

Fuck him. He chose his own financial interests over the club that gave him his chance at the top level and turned his back on Arsenal when he was needed most. I don’t buy into the ‘we don’t know what was going behind the scenes’ crap. This about his own greed pure and simple. He was happy to sign a contract and reneged on it. Good riddance.

Maul Person
Maul Person

How do you know he’s leaving for money?!

pitzkale
pitzkale

Moving on

Dave M
Dave M

Yes…and now we are even shorter at the back. Get us a GOOD centre back ASAP please.

Like really…

gooner
gooner

Whatever it is and whatever happens I’ll not change my view on him. 9 great years and he leaves a legend to me. Glad that we are getting something for him too.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

Lol, 9 “great” years that coincide with the worst defense Arsenal had in decades.
Sentiment is what brought us down.

Dave M
Dave M

Well without him in defense we would have been a freaking disaster. He really was a great defender. This whole ordeal sucks, but he was one of my favourite Arsenal players during that period.

sami
sami

Could have played for any club in the world to be honest, If he was good enough for France he was good enough for us.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

A good player for us, but in no way a legend imo, especially not after this. 9 great years is also questionable considering his earlier consistency issues and his latter injury issues.

Bryan
Bryan

I dont know what happened, but its Arsenals fault.

Goonereality
Goonereality

I blame George Graham…

chuffy
chuffy

He was an action packed defender, but no legend. Cannot be compared against Tony Adams. His leadership abilities were severely lacking though and couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery. We’re weaker in defense now and I worry for us without reinforcements.

ArseHobbit
ArseHobbit

You’ve disagreed with yourself in your own comment.

And not being Tony Adams doesn’t make him a failure.

Ordnance Dave
Ordnance Dave

He didn’t say he was failure. He said he isn’t a legend, which he isn’t.

chuffy
chuffy

Where have I disagreed with myself? Can you read? Or are you defending him without questioning his time with us?

The Spoon
The Spoon

No player bigger than the club. Regardless of what’s gone on, his behaviour has been poor. Took the cash while he was injured happily enough. Let’s go and get a CB today.

Mintoes
Mintoes

Uhm perhaps some perspective here would be useful. This guy was a fckn warrior for us over the course of 9 years. He showed great strength and commitment to the club coming back from a horrendous injury last season to pull our shithouse defense together when it was truly fkd. Yeah, he made a mistake with the US tour debacle but calling him out for “taking the cash while injured” is way over the fucking line when you have a fucking bloodsucking leech on the team taking 350k a week home who doesn’t give a fuck about arsenal and who refuses to play north of the watford gap when the weather turns chilly. Suddenly gets the fucking sniffles every other weekend December- March…who refuses to take a pay cut or even consider moving somewhere else when he can piss around for another 2 fucking years raping the club in the process.

So tell me, who’s actually the one acting like he’s bigger than club and getting away with it? Not Kos.

kaius
kaius

This started so well with the “some perspective here would be useful” bit

Alex
Alex

All is good to attack Özil, right? A pause between two attacks against Mustafi?

Maul Person
Maul Person

The difference is that Ozil doesn’t try. Kos has put his body on the line. Ozil is happy to collect a fat paycheck and do the bare minimum to earn it. Kos stayed longer than intended (due to injury) and geve his all after recovery and possibly through further injury to give the club his best.

This “why is it okay to attack Ozil argument is bullshit and needs to stop.

Hantal
Hantal

The perspective here is that whilst undergoing rehab for his long injury on full pay his agent came out and said he’d been planning to leave but instead stayed for contract security

kaius
kaius

It’s kinda shocking what he’s done when you lay it out like that

Mike1
Mike1

Feel better after your rant? I hope you do, because I don’t, especially after your use of “rape”. Perhaps you can need your own advice about “perspective”.

Mintoes
Mintoes

Yeah I do actually, and “raping” the club financially is a perfectly acceptable descriptive term when discussing the actions of Ozil and his 350k/wk wage packet. Ad in case you weren’t aware, the word “rape” does have multiple meanings…google is your friend perhaps…

Goonereality
Goonereality

“Let’s go and get a CB today.” Great. Is the centre back supermarket open? Seriously, negotiating a transfer isn’t quite like buying a tin of peas, and the closer the deadline gets the more leverage selling clubs have.

It doesn’t look as though we’re having much luck at the moment and the clock it ticking. Kos certainly needed to go, but it may be we’ll just have to stick with what we’ve got left which, if you think about what we’ve got left, isn’t a very encouraging prospect for next season.

Nikoniko
Nikoniko

Naah! Kos gave his all. His injury was occasioned by poor club management and cost him a World Cup. He is on contract even when injured. Do you expect to stop earning? Pure BS.

Con
Con

Good riddance.

thw14
thw14

Good (possibly great) player, glad we seem to have found a solution.

As for the circumstances, I’ve honestly given up on the idea of loyalty since van Persie. Seems all player movement inevitably involves unpleasantness, no point dwelling on it.

henry
henry

Very true. Lets keep the good memories.

iGooner
iGooner

No truer words have been spoken.

Dave M
Dave M

It took you that long? Loyalty died in Pro sports in the 90s…and even then it was in tatters. But loyalty from teams died about the same time so not all the players fault either. End of the day it’s the fans that get shafted… as always…

Rohan
Rohan

Will miss him. An injured Kos is still our best defender. Hope we replace him well and all the bitterness fades with time. Maybe we’ll someday look back at his contribution to us(and he realizes ours to his career) and be able to forgive everything that resulted to this situation.

Sad we couldn’t say a proper goodbye, but c’est la vie.

Goonereality
Goonereality

Good news – things were getting very acrimonious. The reported fee is much more realistic than the double figure “LaLa Land” fee in earlier reports (who’d pay that for a 33 year old with injury problems … get real).

I wish him well, but it’s good he’s (almost certainly) going for all parties. His departure puts more pressure on for bringing in a quality centre back, probably on loan – unless we can offload a few players for reasonable money very quickly.

Mutisya
Mutisya

All the best Kos! Shame it had to end this way

Also, full marks to the club for standing its ground on this. At the end of the day, as an Arsenal player, he’s an asset and the club is fully entitled to move him on at the price they deem right!

truj
truj

Any sell on clause?

DaDude

According to the paper Sunday Sport we are entitled to receive 10 percent of his monthly pension and 30 % of any eventual Bingo wins after his retirement. In case he wins non-monetary prizes at Bingo, we are entitled to a sell on fee of 15 percent in case he sells them online inside of the first five years after winning or 5 percent if he sells them person to person. In case he tries to sell them by renting a booth at a flea market we have to be informed and have first right to purchase as long as we match the price of other interested parties.
However, should he ever need a walking frame before the age of 70, we have to bear 50 % of the costs, if he needs it before the age of 80 we still pay 22 % of the costs. Should he need that only after his 80th birthday, he needs to pay it all by himself, but we are obliged to send him a greeting card with a value of not less than 4 pounds (I guess that would have to be one of those playing music when you open it) which has the autographs of our then top scorer made with blue ink gathered from squids caught in the Phlilippine Sea not longer than 2 months earlier.
In case he talks badly about the club before the coming August 31st, we have to send him 2 VIP tickets for each of our Euro League group stage games. Kos is required to attend these games and watch them for the full 90 minutes (with one toilet break of up to 3 minutes each permitted per half, should he be quicker in the first half, the minutes can be added on to the break time in the second half) or otherwise risk a penalty of 300,000 pounds per game he failed to attend. In case he plays for a club involved in the Europa League themselves and gets drawn against Arsenal at any stage of the competition, we are required to hire a plane to fly over the Emirates anytime between minute 20 and 25 of said game carrying with a banner saying “Kos is the bos(s)”, while Kos is obliged to wear a tshirt reading “I still love Arse” during the Europa League hymn in the away game.
Source seems to be someone close to a person involved with negotiations for Bordeaux.

ClockEndRider
ClockEndRider

Its this kind of searing insight which makes Arseblog news great. Won’t be long before this post is picked up and reported verbatim by The Sun.

ArsenesLongSufferingZipper
ArsenesLongSufferingZipper

Where’s Rambling Pete? What did you do to him?

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

brilliant.

Rectum_Spectrum
Rectum_Spectrum

epic.

yen
yen

A bit of an awkward break up, but let’s not let it overshadow all those years he gave us, with some very important goals on top of that.

Also happy the club showed some ruthlessness about this deal, because it’s very much needed.

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

If it wasn’t for injuries, Vermaleen was by far a better defender. This was the reason why Barcelona signed Vermaleen.

jat307
jat307

Could you now elaborate on why Barcelona signed Song?

Loomesy
Loomesy

Cause they’re big dum dums

Runzac
Runzac

You Dum Dum give me Gum Gum

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

We needed an upgrade on him much sooner.
I for one don’t care much about his problems with the club. What’s important is that we should get a quality replacement.
But yeah, I guess it would’ve been nicer to part ways on more friendly terms.

Flavoured Rice

Just go already.

You were one of my favourite players and to see you act like a petulant child – with complete disregard to the fans who have supported you over the years – well, it leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

It’s not like you were asked to do hard manual labour for a year in abhorrent conditions. No, you get paid a kings fortune, have everything you could wish for in a city like London and yet you could not wait a single year longer for your dream holiday lifestyle in France. Which is just a short flight away!

You are systematic with everything that is wrong with modern day footballers. Loyalty ? You’re just a mercenary, and not a very good one.

Good riddance.

adelaidegooner
adelaidegooner

My sentiments exactly. Good riddance.

Merlin’s Panini
Merlin’s Panini

What a shame. I prefer to remember all the good things he did. The fourth place securing goals, the FA Cup final goal in that remarkable turnaround, the keeping quite of many a top striker.
He’s served the club well, is on his last legs and clearly needs to play less games, or less intense games, for his own good now.
I hope his side of the story doesn’t completely ruin things as this whole debacle has tainted what was previously a very professional, respectful and committed time with us.

goongot
goongot

He also acted weird after france won the world cup while he got injured…I dont know..seems a bit mental kos…but he’s a fighter and was a great servant to afc.

Savage
Savage

That’s true – that injury must have been very hard on him

EZD
EZD

What do you mean he “acted weird”? Genuine question, I’d be interested to know.

I remember him saying he was upset and that he found it hard to watch France win without him, and the stories that he had planned to leave Arsenal before his injury, but I don’t remember him acting weird.

pitzkale
pitzkale

He said he kind of wanted France to lose without him.

lekan gunner
lekan gunner

I’ve said severally , even if koz played for arsenal under18, i will always respect him. he served with hearts and guts, go look up most goals he scored for us, they were risk of him bieng injured, yet he took those risk, ozil, miki, mustafi will never put their body at risk to scores goals, that would bring us back into the game. an alas even mustafi earned more than koz.
it definitely out of his character, he is not a kid,
he was rushed back to injury last season bcos some players could not defend and the board and or cooach cannot see that defence is our major prob. and oh they sold beilik without given him a chance bought a 19 year old for 27M only to loan him back and yet they cannot extend koz contract by 1 year.
oh please koz will always take my respect in view of arsenal way of handling issue.
goodluck to UE and go this season if they don’t sort out a good CB b4 TW closes.
koz gonna be a player and coach at bordeux. i am happy for him.

It Ain’t Tribal with Me
It Ain’t Tribal with Me

Put yourself in his shoes, contemplating the prospect of lining up next to Mustafi…

…as Kurtz whispered in Apocalypse Now, “The horror….the horror…”

kossok
kossok

A fully fit pairing of Kos and Sok would have been solid enough to fight for top 4 this season, his shenanigans aside. nice ambigram too: Kossok/Sokkos

Oh well, too bad. Way to go captain. You’ve burned bridges with the french NT and now you’ve done the same with Arsenal. Enjoy your retirement home in Bordeaux.

but since this is a season of rebuild and youth where we have an outside chance of a top 4, its perfectly fine. Another of the old wenger guard is out the gate, additional 5m quid to the war chest and 100k/w salary cap freed up.

A P
A P

Sok off.

Saps
Saps

‘What doesn’t come out in the wash comes out in the rinse’
Nas
‘No Bad Energy’
The Lost Tapes 2
The choir sample is brilliant, has me zoning out.

PS: Bye Kos…

Forest gooner
Forest gooner

That’s more than what we got for Schezney.

EZD
EZD

We got for €12m for Szczesny. Still a terrible deal.

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

The good thing is that we’ve signed three quality defenders, so we won’t miss him.

Savage
Savage

We have 6 players for central defence now, so numbers-wise we’re fine. As Emery said, it’s more an issue of finding an improvement in quality. It’s a very difficult market at the moment, with Ake even being priced at 75 million, so it won’t be a shock if we can’t find someone.

goonero
goonero

Can we stop with the “but he tweeted he’d stay till 2020” crap.

Look at Arsene, he famously vowed he’d never break a contract, but he left a year short of his too didn’t he? And let’s not change the story post fact; he very much chose to walk, he was not ushered out by the club, obviously the fans and media played a role but that’s not the point, it was ultimately his choice. A lot of shit can change in a year.

If you’re going to start shitting on club legends (yes, Koscielny is a club legend fight me) for leaving in less than pristine circumstances then you’re just not going to have many left. You can take Henry off the list, you can take Pires off the list, you can take Freddie and Patrick and Gilberto Silva and Ted Drake and Sol Campbell and Jen’s Lehman and many more too.

Goodbye Kos, thanks for your best efforts for the best part of a decade, your CL qualification sealing goals, those night’s you disappeared world class strikers and for playing through injury with the kind of bravery and commitment that would’ve put some of the other “leaders” in our squad to shame…if they had the capacity for it.

When we’re watching Granit Xhaka pick his nose instead of tracking his man who runs on to score, then proceeding to wipe the nose gold on the armband, we’ll remember how you never once got caught litterally picking your nose instead of doing your job. When we’re hoping for a last minute goal to win us a place in the top 4, and instead we get Granit Xhaka giving away a needless penalty, we’ll remember you didn’t give away as many penalties in 9 years as a centre back than Xhaka has in 3 years as an alleged “CDM”.

Thanks for being the kind of player who at 33, after 9 years, battling chronic injury, that we still want to keep, because we know we can rely on you, instead of the kind of player we’d rather see go litterally anywhere else but that we’re stuck with because no one other than us is stupid enough to sign him for 30+million or put on a 200k per week contract.

OdalGooner
OdalGooner

Spot on, sir. The way the club played him way too frequently when he was limping – something that this website has gone into detail about as well – he sure doesn’t need any stick from me. We don’t know what’s happened, and it’s not pretty, but I’ve stood up in a meeting, quit my job, and walked out the door. Things rarely happen for *no* reason.

Ozenal
Ozenal

I’m guessing it was because we pushed him to play way past him physical limit having come back from major injury.

Which reminded him of how Arsene would never have allowed this to happen and why he insisted on leaving when Arsene left. Only to be told by a desperate Gaz to stay for one more season and if we don’t make the Champions League he can leave on a free.

Ozenal
Ozenal

Then Gaz splashes cash on attackers in Jan and even a loan signing was a midfielder. Leaving them to put pressure on Kos. Then what happens in the summer. We sign two attackers…

Paul
Paul

He’s done enough for us really. ‘‘Tis only a game of ball. “ when I was younger I’d got all upset about this kind of stuff but as you get older you occasionally get wiser too. He wanted a change of scenery and pace. We were never gonna give it to him so he did what was right for him unlike when offers from Bayern ,Utd etc were there in his prime. Good luck to him. Ironically his leaving May force the board to buy an upgrade anyway and it may benefit us going forward

Rubic
Rubic

I will miss him. Great player with exceptional heart.

I’m certain, as blogs has pointed out, we must have a replacement tee’d up, otherwise this wouldn’t be sanctioned.

Can’t wait to find out who it is? I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a name no one has mentioned in the media.

Over to you Mr Ornstein… enlighten us.

Tony Hall
Tony Hall

Good luck mate, thanks for all you did for our club …

I will not judge him on what has happened because we do not know what has gone on behind the scenes and there are two sides to every story …

Sapiman
Sapiman

Sokratis -30yrs++, main centerback until Saliba is ready, safely estimating in 2 yrs time

Holding – 24yrs, once he has fully recovered, will be first choice centreback, probably future captain too

Chambers- 25 yrs, his versatility is invaluable, as long he doesn’t mind being on the bench, not as 1st eleven, depends on Emery’s game plan, 2 or 3 centrebacks

Saliba – Future 1st choice, no doubt about that and hopefully he will remain injury free to fulfill the expectation

Konstantinos – Prolong injury issue, yet to show his full potential,

Mustafi – regardless playing or not he wants to stay, our option in market with depends if we can offload him

We actually have 6 centrebacks ( including Saliba if he can be recalled from loan and Monreal as emergency option).Although I believe Emery is unlikely to use Monreal at CB, (Wenger did). And not including new first team like Medley.

If we can sell Mustafi, we can buy an appropriate CB who will fight for first eleven with Holding and Sokratis.

If we can’t sell, we look to get a defender on loan or signed a cheap defender as a stop gap option. In wenger’s era, we had Squillaci and Silvestre for this role.

According to the news, we had asked to loan Rugani from Juve and bid for Upamecano from Leipzig.

We will not be in this situation if we had no problem with Koscielny although for Mustafi, we could still sell if there are suitors.

Just hope that Raul can pull something a rabbit out of his hat again, just like how he did it with Pepe.

Goonereality
Goonereality

My views:
Sokratis: OK, but far too volatile – even at his age/experience. Who gets sent off in a friendly game for goodness sake! He’ll almost certainly be missing at important parts of the season because he hasn’t got the self-control, along with the aggression, that’s needed.

Holding: yes, looks the part and could be a future “proper” captain (assuming Emery drops his “five captains” nonsense).

Chambers: certainly versatile (played in midfield for Fulham on loan) but he’s very average, which is presumably why Fulham didn’t make an effort to sign him even though he was their player of the year. I suspect that in other circumstances, he’d be on his way out.

Saliba: unknown quantity in the EPL so very difficult to say for sure but looks a “prospect”.

Konstantinos: looks OK but obviously injury prone which could well be a big negative (think Wilshere), but we’ll see.

Mustafi: what can you say, just very poor. We stand little chance of offloading him – too well paid at The Emirates and simply not good enough.

So, six centre backs but numbers don’t tell the story. It’s quality/consistency that counts and we just don’t have it in depth – certainly not for next season anyway.

You’re right about the loan Rugani from Juve but that’s been turned down as Juve are interested only in a straight sale. It appears from the latest press reports that no bid was made bid for Upamecano after all. In any case, I think we may find it difficult to raise the kind of money, even in instalments, that Leipzig seem to want.

The clock is ticking and the closer we get to the deadline, the greater advantage potential selling clubs have so we may have to go with what we’ve got. If so, not an appetising prospect.

chopper4001
chopper4001

Good luck Boss. Thanks for the years and sorry for some of the idiots you’ve had to play alongside. The partnership with Big Per was, although not world beating, something we all got on board with.

Moving on. Ornstein said in his tweet we’re hopeful on a CB, likely this Rugani or Upamecano. Either is fine (the latter hopefully), we just need a half competent CB at this point.

But the world has gone absolutely barmy if Juventus’ FOURTH choice CB is worth £50m+ or whatever it is they want.

Red Arrow
Red Arrow

Great servant for the club and can only wish the best for him. With Kos leaving and Jenko by the looks of it, unless they have completely lost their minds, AFC must be in advanced talks with regards to signing 1 or hopefully 2 defenders before deadline day.

SarcasmB0t
SarcasmB0t

Good riddance

Rectum_Spectrum
Rectum_Spectrum

it was brexit, wasn’t it Kos? sniff….

Alexander
Alexander

I’m told he’s had a gutful. Wenger wore him out. To be fair, Wenger wore me out too

Paul H Hollister
Paul H Hollister

I can’t believe the criticism of this guy he is obviously at the physical end of his career and has over nine years given his best in a declining team and carried the can for season upon season of awful defensive performances he is a true gent and what we don’t know is how long and how many discussions and promises he had by the so-called management team, i mean does anybody truly understand the management structure at this American corporation?
I have watched the big stars threaten to leave every summer for decades and like all fans had to wait with bated breath to see if they would stay (cesc?) Im sorry but we should be giving him a testimonial game as thanks.