Report: Liverpool 5-5 Arsenal (Liverpool win 5-4 on penalties)

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Result: Liverpool 5-5 Arsenal (Liverpool win 5-4 on penalties)
Competition: Carabao Cup
Date: 30 October 2019
Venue: Anfield

Arsenal XI: Martinez, Bellerin, Mustafi, Holding, Kolasinac, Torreira, Willock, Ozil, Maitland-Niles, Saka, Martinelli

Subs: Macey, Sokratis, Tierney, Guendouzi, Ceballos, Pepe, Lacazette



Liverpool knocked Arsenal out of the Carabao Cup 5-4 on penalties following a remarkable game that ended 5-5 after 90 minutes. 

Having fallen behind early to Shkodran Mustafi’s own goal, the Gunners, courtesy of Lucas Torreira’s strike and a brace from Gabriel Martinelli, went 3-1 ahead only for James Milner’s penalty to peg us back before the break. 

Ainsley-Maitland Niles extended the lead in the second period before the Reds launched another comeback. This time stunning goals from Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Divock Origi levelled things at 4-4. Not to be outdone, Joe Willock hammered home a rocket of his own before Origi again levelled deep into stoppage time to take the game to a shootout. 

Dani Ceballos was the only player to miss before youngster Curtis Jones sealed a place in the quarter-finals in front of a raucous Kop. 

First half

Unai Emery made a full 11 changes from the side that started Sunday’s 2-2 draw with Crystal Palace. Hector Bellerin was given the captain’s armband in Granit Xhaka’s absence, Mesut Ozil started for the first time in a month and youngsters Bukayo Saka, Joe Willock and Gabriel Martinelli were charged with making life difficult for Liverpool’s defence. Jurgen Klopp also made sweeping changes, handing Anfield debuts to a couple of youngsters. 

It was a familiar name, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, who was to do cause us early damage. Receiving the ball down the right win, he played a first-time cross to the near post, Mustafi needlessly went to ground and, in so doing, kneed the ball past Martinez to put the home side in front. 

The German spoke recently about taking confidence from recent clean sheets in this competition and the Europa League, this was a timely reminder of why he’s been kept at arm’s length from the Premier League. He put his hand up to apologise. (1-0)

The home side looked comfortable in possession but the probing of Ozil and Saka offered a ray of hope. On 19 minutes we worked an equaliser. Martinelli, Ozil and Maitland-Niles were all involved as the ball was played from one side of the box to the other before Torreira, pouncing on a rebound from a Saka shot, tapped home from a couple of yards out. 

Had VAR been available the Uruguayan might have been flagged offside, but it wasn’t. Thankfully. A second goal of the season for the little man, both of them coming at Anfield. (1-1)

Seven minutes later, Martinelli put us in front. Again the finish was from point-blank range and came off the back of a rebound. Not that the Brazilian cared about the ease of the strike as he emulated Ian Wright’s record of scoring on each of his first four starts. Kudos to Ainsley Maitland-Niles who showed great tenacity in the build-up to twice get crosses in having made himself available from a quick free-kick. (2-1)

The summer signing helped himself to a second seven minutes later as Ozil took advantage of loose play by the home side to free Saka with a backheel. The winger squared the ball to the Brazilian who smashed high past keeper Kelleher. “He scores when he wants,” sang the away fans. Indeed he does. (3-1)

The home side called for a penalty when Keita hammered the ball at Bellerin’s arm from close range. The cries for a spot-kick had barely died down before the home side were actually awarded one. Martinelli hung a leg out in the box and Elliott went over dramatically. The ref pointed to the spot and Milner sent Martinez the wrong way. (3-2) 

Martinelli really should have made amends by completing his hat-trick in first half stoppage time but he couldn’t get any power on a header with only the keeper to beat. There was still time for Origi to threaten an equaliser. He also failed with his head, the ball flashing over the bar. 

Second half

The basketball continued after the break. Brewster hit wide after harrying Mustafi and Saka twice hit over. Freed by Torreira on a third occasion, he couldn’t get the ball out of his feet and a chance to try a lob went begging. 

A fourth goal came soon enough. Milner’s awful back pass to Kelleher was stolen by Maitland-Niles who tried to squeeze the ball home. It dribbled just wide of the post but Ozil improvised a brilliant flick to keep it in play and Ainsley couldn’t miss a second time. (4-2)

Of course, this is Arsenal at Anfield. We rarely maintain a lead. Out of nothing, Oxlade-Chamberlain, booed all night by the travelling Gooners, found the top corner with a rasping effort. He celebrated by biting his lip and sticking his chest out. Anfield roared again. (4-3)

There was barely time to catch our breath before Liverpool bagged an equaliser. Origi spun on the edge of the box and hammered into the top corner. Should Martinez have done better? Maybe. (4-4) 

Amazingly, Emery sacrificed Ozil, who was running the show for us, to bring on Guendouzi. The German took it on the chin. Back we came. Martinelli spurned another chance to complete his hat-trick as he hit Bellerin’s cross over. Then on 70 minutes Willock took centre stage. Picking the ball up in the centre circle, he charged forward and unleashed an unbelievable effort from 30-yards into the top corner. It was a carbon copy of Patrick Vieira’s rasping strike against Newcastle all those years ago. (5-4)

Could Liverpool find one final equaliser to take the game to penalties? Into the final five minutes and we looked relatively comfortable, but we did start to sit deeper and deeper and eventually it came. It’s us. It’s Liverpool at home. Nobody should have been surprised. Three minutes into stoppage time, Origi acrobatically connected with a cross to level yet again. Ridiculous. (5-5)

The game went to penalties. Because that’s exactly what you need after 10 goals in 90 minutes. In front of the Kop, Hector went first. Goal. Milner went next. Goal. Guendouzi up. In off the post. Lallana. Top left. Martinelli. No doubt. Goal. Brewster. Goal. Ceballos. He’s going to miss, I can tell. Kelleher goes right and saves. Origi. Goal. Maitland-Niles. To keep us in the game. Goal. Curtis Jones. To win it. In off the post. Liverpool win. 

Meh.

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Nicolas Pepe
Nicolas Pepe
5 months ago

Can somebody please explain.why Ozil was taken ofd? can somebody jow explain why Emery has not been sacked as far as I know??

Bob's Mexican Cousin
Bob's Mexican Cousin
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Too many goals for Emery’s taste.

IamaGoober
IamaGoober
5 months ago

Get Torreira and Ozil in that fucking first team.

No fucking funny shit. No players playing out of position in weird ass formations.

Just back to basics. Play our best players. In their best positions and see what happens.

Anonymarse
Anonymarse
5 months ago
Reply to  IamaGoober

Might work …

Bob's Mexican Cousin
Bob's Mexican Cousin
5 months ago
Reply to  IamaGoober

Ozil had a good game, Emery must be furious.

A P
A P
5 months ago

Ozil’s performance did not go according to Emery’s plan.

I'm 14 Again
I'm 14 Again
5 months ago
Reply to  IamaGoober

Fucking hell, why play them? We were somewhat fearless today and that will worry the manager. This team should be afraid and play inhibited football in the moment ?

Nicolas Pepe
Nicolas Pepe
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Willock scores an amazing goal for the other 89 minutes he was horrendous. Why did he not step up for a penalty because he doesn’t want any pressure. He will not make it MARK MY WORDS

Red-Wing
Red-Wing
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

I thought he had a couple of really good moments but got tired towards the end. I think he will make it and become excellent box-to-box midfielder.

Henkamp
Henkamp
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

This is not a circus, mate. Locate the appropriate place to practice your trade.

David
David
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

You should be ashamed of this comment!

The Kolkata Gooner
The Kolkata Gooner
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

What’s he done to you mate?

Rich
Rich
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

What a ridiculous comment, he’s 20 not 24… No one knows how many of these young lads will make it, but he has a knack for getting in the box and scoring goals, he’s certainly got the physical requirements, and he just smashed in a 25 yard screamer after a trademark surging run. I think some of our younger player would have been better off picking up 40+ games in the championship, and Chelsea have used the loan system much better than us, but none of us know how these lads will develop over the next few years. Sit back… Read more »

legrande
legrande
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Now is the time we need to support OUR team. Its our team and nobody will support them for us. So many negatives but we need to come to terms quick and push these lads. From what i see, if we do not encourage them now, we might not recover in time.
Lets put all the bad feelings aside (including Emery) and give our 100% win or loose.

I'm 14 Again
I'm 14 Again
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Bit too much to say he won’t make it, but yeah he was mostly bad today.

PeteyB
PeteyB
5 months ago
Reply to  I'm 14 Again

The young guys age always going to have a bad game here and there, down to fans and club to support them.. You know, be a ‘supporter’

Bob's Mexican Cousin
Bob's Mexican Cousin
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Please refrain from supporting Arsenal.

goonshow
goonshow
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

You monumental muppet.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

For a second I thought it was to save him for Wolves, but then I woke up ?

Runcorn Gooner
Runcorn Gooner
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Nothing changes. Arsenal keepers NEVER save penalties. Tonight
he got nowhere near any of them.

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts
5 months ago
Reply to  Runcorn Gooner

If I was the goalkeeper coach I would say “go the opposite way to you think it’s going” seriously.

jon
jon
5 months ago
Reply to  Runcorn Gooner

Martinez was exeptionally bad on the penalties. He went way to early, already laying on the grass before the shooter had reached the ball.

Jose
Jose
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Whatever it is Emery is doing, it is glaring it’s not working. Arsenal hierarchy should pls help him and sack him

Runcorn Gooner
Runcorn Gooner
5 months ago
Reply to  Jose

Ozil is going to outlast Emery……easily.

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Mate, you were on the bench and didn’t come on just leave it!

Awesomesauce25
Awesomesauce25
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Prob bc his lack of competition this year means he is not in game shape to play 90 mins. We know conditioning exercise is not a substitute for competitive minutes. Can’t quite be replicated.

The Kolkata Gooner
The Kolkata Gooner
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

We should maybe wait till the weekend to criticize Emery’s substitutions today…maybe he was saving Torreira and Ozil for the Wolves game!

Reality check
Reality check
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

I like Saka but today wasnt his day, defense or offense he was showing his age today, we were slaughtered on the left all night apart from a couple of good interventions from Kola.. But Emery then goes and substitutes kola and leaves Saka on. Don’t even start me on why he took Torriera and Ozil off.. absolutely clueless

AmericanGooner
AmericanGooner
5 months ago
Reply to  Reality check

Agree that the substitutions were terrible, but Kola had a knock. Martinez actually signalled to the bench for Kola to be substituted about 4 or 5 minutes before he was taken off.

Reality check
Reality check
5 months ago
Reply to  AmericanGooner

AmericanGooner

Didn’t know about Kola’s knick, fair enough, but still, leaving Saka on for all 90mins was a bad decision.

Flash
Flash
5 months ago
Reply to  Reality check

Absolutely. Saka’s defending was basically non-existent today and their final goal also came from that side…

…but Kolasinac asked for the substitution.

jon
jon
5 months ago
Reply to  Reality check

Kola had a card. But I agree about the two others.

goonshow
goonshow
5 months ago
Reply to  Reality check

Yep – no surpises which flank their 5th goal came from…

Jean Ralphio
Jean Ralphio
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Starting at the weekend

Thierry Bergkamp
Thierry Bergkamp
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

I am seriously done with Emery already. Ozil showed today that he still is our most creative and Emery is a fool

Scigunner
Scigunner
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Refreshing to see some decent passes in the final third, finally for ffs.

Scigunner
Scigunner
5 months ago
Reply to  Scigunner

I guess the whole Ozil inclusion backfired spectacularly for Emery today. He didn’t play Ozil in easy Europa league home games, but included in a difficult trip to Anfield. He didn’t really expect ozil to make any significant impact (especially playing along with kids), in attempt to justify the decision to freeze him out.

Viva La Prof
Viva La Prof
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

He must be starting on Saturday it’s the only explanation. Özil is a magician. Emery You’re out of your element.

I'm 14 Again
I'm 14 Again
5 months ago
Reply to  Viva La Prof

Think how much Auba, Laca and Pepe will be licking their lips watching Ozil today

GunneRon
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

Things we learned today 1. It’s a stupid idea to think Holding, Tierney and Bellerin will somehow just come in and miraculously improve the defence as some fans expect. Nobody is going to improve our leaky defence unless Emery takes the initiative to fix it . Ominously for us, and as evident from his time at Valencia and Sevilla, it doesn’t look like he’s capable of doing so. 2. The lack of ability to, once again, defend leads (both at home and away) will make it very difficult for us to finish top 4 this season. 3. Its ridiculous how… Read more »

ASTROGUNER
ASTROGUNER
5 months ago
Reply to  GunneRon

Saka needs to learn and improve a lot. defensively he was shocking defensively actually to put it plainly he was very poor defensively. BUT going forward he is brilliant and also had an assist today. he will improve he’s young and has got lots of potential still rooting for him. Emery has made arsenal worse! Imagine Wenger with this group. And i think our defense would be better than this and also our midfield would be better.and we’d controll more games. Every game we go into under emery we have lower possesion that our opponent. you cant control games like… Read more »

CALEB288
CALEB288
5 months ago
Reply to  GunneRon

Martinelli is the highest scoring teenager in europe at the moment. such a great talent.

goonshow
goonshow
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

yet again – 2 poor subsitutions. took off the steel in our midfield with Torreira and the creativity upfront with Ozil.
Love Guend but he was shite tonight – sloppy passing, no tackles and lazy for their 4th.
Ceballos – not the player to bring on to shut out a game surely?

Another 2 goal lead blown in the space of a few days – Manager sadly seems increasingly clueless week by week

The Arsenal
The Arsenal
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

According to Emery, it was the ‘plan’. But sometimes the plan has to you out the window. Maybe when it’s 4 4 and that particular iPad player is having a good game.

Red-Wing
Red-Wing
5 months ago

Maybe taking off Ozil and Torreira wasn’t such a good idea, was it? They’ve got to start at the weekend, there’s no other logical explanation.

Thought Ozil and Torreira were both excellent, and boy oh boy what a player Martinelli is turning out to be.

Great attack and piss poor defence. Fun game which we somehow still managed to lose.

Maniac
5 months ago
Reply to  Red-Wing

I didn’t even care that it was half a Liverpool team in the League Cup, a win at Anfield would have been a huge morale boost that we desperately need. Yet somehow we managed to ship a two goal lead not once, but twice in the same game and then go on to lose on penalties. What should have been a positive will no doubt be deflating for the players. Really disappointing tbh.

David C
David C
5 months ago
Reply to  Maniac

I have 2 brothers who are bloody LiverPOO fans. ARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!

We have lost three two goal leads in two games. Not good enough.

Viva La Prof
Viva La Prof
5 months ago
Reply to  David C

I’ve got a brother who’s a Liverpool fan, and he’s one of those neckbeardy wankers. I had to watch us playing shite in the Europa league at his house. The worst thing was he was doing that thing of trying to be kind but in a neckbeardy wanker way.

Bob's Mexican Cousin
Bob's Mexican Cousin
5 months ago
Reply to  Red-Wing

Great attack and piss poor defense is an upgrade over piss poor defense and attack. Surely he can’t continue his treatment of Ozil?
#EmeryOut
#KidsNotAfraidOfAnfield

VieiraOhOhOhOh
VieiraOhOhOhOh
5 months ago

As long as Emery is around, Ozil and Torreira will be kept on the periphery. It’s a sad state of affairs.

#EmeryOut

Monkeyknees
Monkeyknees
5 months ago
Reply to  Red-Wing

Ozil, Torreira and Martinelli were awesome tonight!

Shtopthelights
Shtopthelights
5 months ago

What a game. Such promising youngsters.
Ozil was quality in fairness to him. Not the worst thing to drop out of the comp either.
As for emerys defensive set up and subs. Enoughs been said of it after previous games.

Nketibag
Nketibag
5 months ago
Reply to  Shtopthelights

What are you on about not the worst thing? I’m gutted these youngsters didn’t progress in the competition. We have a deep squad and they need the minutes to keep fitness and confidence. There’s only 3 or so games left for goodness sake. It would also be a positive for the league side as they have a chance to impress and push those underperforming in 1st XI out. e.g. as Tierney has. Where’s the negative?

Maxin In The Shade
Maxin In The Shade
5 months ago
Reply to  Nketibag

Didn’t see this comment before I wrote mine. 100% spot on!

Shtopthelights
Shtopthelights
5 months ago
Reply to  Nketibag

Never said I was happy about it. Just said its not a disaster or you know “not the worst thing”
Most people wrote this game off after the draw. Emery wouldve also started playing the senior players more as it was the quater finals. But you make good points.

Dave
Dave
5 months ago
Reply to  Shtopthelights

Last we’ll see of Ozil until after January. No way we cup tie him in Europe.

Maxin In The Shade
Maxin In The Shade
5 months ago
Reply to  Shtopthelights

I get what you’re saying, but I disagree about this being not the worse thing to drop out of the comp

It gave us a good chance to see the youngsters, and for them and others to get some proper playing time they normally might not get.

Seeing Martinelli tonight was so exciting. He knows how to find the back of the net. But our defending – yeesh! It’s the 94th minute. How hard is it to hold on??!!

Ordnance Dave
Ordnance Dave
5 months ago

We don’t get 3 points on Saturday, Emery must be gone, or the board are also culpable in this shit fest.

SB Still
SB Still
5 months ago
Reply to  Ordnance Dave

Many positives, the usual lapses in defence.

When will we ever save a penalty?

VieiraOhOhOhOh
VieiraOhOhOhOh
5 months ago
Reply to  Ordnance Dave

They’re already culpable. And they won’t do a thing.

Flash
Flash
5 months ago

we WANT! Ozil, Mesut Ozil,
I just don’t think you understand…

North Bank
North Bank
5 months ago
Reply to  Flash

He’s an Arsenal man
Better than Zidane
We want our Ozil!

VieiraOhOhOhOh
VieiraOhOhOhOh
5 months ago
Reply to  Flash

So great to hear that song ringing through Anfield. Quite a fine game for Ozil.

Fuzz
Fuzz
5 months ago

Martinelli looks like a legend in the making

Nicolas Pepe
Nicolas Pepe
5 months ago
Reply to  Fuzz

Calm down mate he missed a couple sitters. You don’t want the buzz getting to his head He is good which mean Emery If he stays night just sell Auba for 60 mill ?

Fergal
Fergal
5 months ago
Reply to  Nicolas Pepe

No need to call down. He really does look like the real deal. Time will tell, but he looks proper for sure.

Fergal
Fergal
5 months ago
Reply to  Fergal

*calm. Stupid fucking auto correct.

Jack
Jack
5 months ago

Has Martinez ever considered maybe trying to react to the ball when a penalty is being taken? The guy just dived the wrong way every single time including the penalty in the game itself. Embarrassing result when we should have thrashed them in the 90 mins

Maniac
5 months ago
Reply to  Jack

I’m usually not that critical of keepers, but today Martinez was awful.

Dave
Dave
5 months ago
Reply to  Maniac

I’ve been really impressed with Martinez this season, but not the last two games.

Reality check
Reality check
5 months ago
Reply to  Maniac

He’s just not a good shot stopper, never have been. There’s reason he’s 26 and still no where near first choice..

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight
5 months ago
Reply to  Maniac

Let both Origi goals through him.

And also, goalkeepers are idiots – just dive the same way every penalty and you’re likely to go the right way at least once. I’m sure I saw an article from a year or so ago saying the same thing.

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts
5 months ago
Reply to  Jack

I’m really not sure who to hate anymore – I was cool with Ozil but then Mustafi came to the fore followed by Xhaka and tonight Mustafi was back but Martinez is getting some stick alongside Wllock…it’s just so confusing! Who should I hate folks??

Fergal
Fergal
5 months ago
Reply to  Paul Roberts

Start with yourself and the rest will follow… Just kidding by the way.. obviously that’s true of love too ;0)

Viva La Prof
Viva La Prof
5 months ago
Reply to  Paul Roberts

Spuds of course

My Arse-nal
My Arse-nal
5 months ago
Reply to  Jack

To stick up for him a bit, Liverpool ‘s penalties were all really good and I think most keepers would have failed to stop any of them.

Maniac
5 months ago

Cannot defend to save our lives ffs

Henkamp
Henkamp
5 months ago

That didn’t end well.

However, I’ve got to say, I didn’t expect this much from Gabigol — just like Guendouzi last season.

And oh, our GKs are absolute pants at Penalties.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon
5 months ago

Ludicrous game. Was like watching a FIFA match. But low-key we should have won that looking at the lineups and bench

loose_cannon
loose_cannon
5 months ago
Reply to  loose_cannon

Also, the streets remember when Wenger used to play Ox at right back. The pain in that shot was real!

Fatgooner
Fatgooner
5 months ago

Fuck off, Emery!!! And take Mustafi with you!!!

A P
A P
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

So long as you follow them, Fats.

Granit(e) hard!
Granit(e) hard!
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

Surprised that for the first time, I actually agree with you on something fats?

Angry Arsenal Nerd
Angry Arsenal Nerd
5 months ago

From a match I wasnt overly fussed about, I feel gutted

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts
5 months ago

I enjoyed that game and the depth of squad that we clearly have. Onwards and upwards here?

Fatgooner
Fatgooner
5 months ago
Reply to  Paul Roberts

Fuck off!! How can you enjoy us losing?

Anonymarse
Anonymarse
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

Best possible way to lose to be fair

Scigunner
Scigunner
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

Scoring 5 at Anfield is enjoyable your miserable ……

Dave
Dave
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

Fat, far more enjoyable to watch that than the dire shite we’re treated to week in week out in the prem.

Alex
Alex
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

Entertainment is entertainment. And it was -FINALLY- an entertaining game. ??‍♂️

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

Fats please don’t be so juvenile as to tell me to fuck off.

ClockEndRider
ClockEndRider
5 months ago
Reply to  Fatgooner

What kind of a response is this? Grow up.

Thierry Bergkamp
Thierry Bergkamp
5 months ago
Reply to  Paul Roberts

Not with this manager, that’s for sure

The Mighty Bun
The Mighty Bun
5 months ago
Reply to  Paul Roberts

Mate, it was the Milk Cup. Great game of football that I enjoyed watching. Arsenal played and it was fun.

Fireman Sam
Fireman Sam
5 months ago
Reply to  The Mighty Bun

I also enjoyed it. It was a great game to watch and lots of positives (and negatives) to contemplate. Glad Ozil stepped up and showed his quality.

Both teams were up for the fight. This was us away at a tough ground and it could have gone either way.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky
5 months ago

Martinez was basically transparent. Every shot with a goal.
Piss poor defensive organization. Piss poor individual quality.
Not an important competition, but it does not bode well for our upcoming league games.

Mootilated
Mootilated
5 months ago

Why would you take off Ozil and put on Guendouzi then take off Torreira to put on Ceballos?! Surely the only explanation is fatigue because those substitutions are ridiculous.

At least Ozil gave a MOTM performance and Emery looks like a fool so there’s that

Angry Arsenal Nerd
Angry Arsenal Nerd
5 months ago
Reply to  Mootilated

Taking Ozil off smacked of re claiming some control

VieiraOhOhOhOh
VieiraOhOhOhOh
5 months ago

Yes! And it smacked of weakness by the manager.

Reality check
Reality check
5 months ago
Reply to  Mootilated

Emery is poison, he’s has Jose level pettiness about him

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight
5 months ago
Reply to  Mootilated

It was because of Guendouzi’s fantastic defensive capabilities, then because Emery realised we couldn’t take a point from a cup game.

My Arse-nal
My Arse-nal
5 months ago
Reply to  Mootilated

I really hope the Ozil sub was because he proved himself and that Emery decided that he would play him at the weekend so needed to give him less minutes so he could recover in time. However I highly doubt that was the reason.

Glen Helders left foot
Glen Helders left foot
5 months ago

This club is simply full of pathetic losers, from top to bottom we are a complete laughing stock.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky
5 months ago

Have to agree.
We need to rework our recruitment strategy. Players and managers a like.

BestSquillaci
BestSquillaci
5 months ago
Reply to  Red-Sky

Nah bruv, we still have very talented players. The expectation was that Emery was more strategically versatile that he could make the best of what we have available rather than be like Wenger and stick to his philosophy regardless of the group’s competitiveness.

But now the board is backing Emery enough that he doesn’t have to play the squad to its strengths but rather go through mediocrity until he can build a squad to his vision.

The Mighty Bun
The Mighty Bun
5 months ago

Remember when participating in the Wank Cup was just that?

Homer
Homer
5 months ago
Reply to  The Mighty Bun

No, they don’t.
Because these are the new reactionary arsenal supporters who think those tossers at aftv make sense.

Disappointing to lose.
I’m annoyed that basically a first team arsenal side was hit for 5 by a ‘pool side made of up more than half youth teamers. Not a good look.

Anyone remember when arsenal did this to other teams?: played the kids and beat most first teams…? Seems ages ago.

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight
5 months ago
Reply to  Homer

So, other people are reactionary, yet you’re moaning about losing?

Spinogunner
Spinogunner
5 months ago

Subbing Ozil off today has to have a consequence for Emery.
It made no sense to sub him off.

It really comes off as a manager putting his ego first and acting petty rather than acting in the best interest of the club.

Negative football, negative attitude. Emery needs to leave.

Paul Roberts
Paul Roberts
5 months ago
Reply to  Spinogunner

Emery did say he would play him for 90 if he was first team fit enough – it wasn’t the case tonight. I would like Emery out though.

VieiraOhOhOhOh
VieiraOhOhOhOh
5 months ago
Reply to  Spinogunner

There will be no consequences for Emery. The Board will let him run out his contract. And we fans will suffer the consequences.

Henkamp
Henkamp
5 months ago

Willock’s thunderbolt,.though. And the celebration that went with it! Just class

Fergal
Fergal
5 months ago
Reply to  Henkamp

That’s one for the ages for him!

David
David
5 months ago

The game was wide open at 4-4, Ozil should’ve stayed on. Weldone lads, but I really can’t explain how we managed to lose this game.

Godfrey Twatsloch
Godfrey Twatsloch
5 months ago
Reply to  David

We lost it due to the Liverpool keeper going the right was for Ceballos penalty. It was well taken but the keeper was lucky. Such a small margin. Could as well have been us winning this. Great game!

Emery out!

GraeB
GraeB
5 months ago

If only Martinez spent less time dancing on the line and more concentrating on the kick, he might save some. Who is our keeper coach now? Leno hasn’t saved any either.

Viva La Prof
Viva La Prof
5 months ago
Reply to  GraeB

That’s all I could think about after the first 3 went in how’s that helping him must actually lose you vital milliseconds in reaction speed. Anyway he should have saved more goals.

Mootilated
Mootilated
5 months ago

this comment is similar to Evra’s a while back when he said ”had we got more points we would’ve won the league”.

Reerun
Reerun
5 months ago

I find it amusing how incredibly hard it seems for our manager to make substitutions based on how the match is going…
Seems like he will make the pre-decided subs no matter what happens.

Lari
Lari
5 months ago

Poor substitutions. Emery reverting to his cautious, defensive self. Guendouzi is no Fabregas – can not influence games the way Fabregas did. I was expecting Pepe to substitute AMN, Guendouzi for Willock and Lacazette for Martinelli (who was starting to tire as the round wore on). An attacking blitz that might just have brought the game home! But I’m not Emery who clearly isn’t the best fit for this club.

Kolasinac
Kolasinac
5 months ago
Reply to  Lari

Guendouzi didn´t do much when he came on,in that last Pool goal I think he lost his man. He still looks raw in certain situations defensively. I like him better when we need to score than when we need to protect the lead. Also Kolasinac´s sub made sense he looked destroyed physically.

Homer
Homer
5 months ago
Reply to  Kolasinac

Agree completely. Guendouzi is a tactically and positionally a whirlwind – both good and bad.
Hes young, bags of talent and potential. Needs discipline. Don’t look like he’s getting anything from Emery, other than game time.

Riku
Riku
5 months ago
Reply to  Lari

The difference was ozil realises that passing the ball is faster than dribbling which Matteo likes to do and fabagas knew this too.
Matteo picking ball up much deeper than ozil, when he came on.
Ozil played brillant as part of a front three . With 3 grafters behind him, box to box players.
Would you drop Alex l. Or Pepe to fit ozil in the team? ( p.e.a. I drop able)

Anthony
Anthony
5 months ago
Reply to  Riku

But you don’t need to drop any of them to make space for Ozil.

Leno
Bellerin Holding Chambers Tierney
Torreira Guendouzi
Pepe Ozil Aubameyang
Lacazette

Torreira protects the back four, Guendouzi is his outlet to play out to Ozil and off of him going forwards with our wide forwards.

anonarse
anonarse
5 months ago

What a crazy game. Good to see some of the youngsters shine, and Özil. Martinelli is a gem. Who cares about the carabao cup anyway?

David
David
5 months ago
Reply to  anonarse

I do! I care about it because its not a friendly match!!!

Godfrey Twatsloch
Godfrey Twatsloch
5 months ago

What a game!

One nil
One nil
5 months ago

I feel deflated

Tim
Tim
5 months ago

Klopp took the “playing the kids” concept a bit too seriously. Lallana was there.

Richie
5 months ago

Emery’s substitutions were absolutely shocking. He needs to leave now. I don’t know how anyone can defend him anymore.

GraeB
GraeB
5 months ago
Reply to  Richie

He can’t defend either!

poldimacht
5 months ago

Ceballos is bang average. Not just because he missed his peno. This is the same guy who played it across our own goal instead of clearing it the last we were at Anfield.

Alex
Alex
5 months ago
Reply to  poldimacht

Shhh… he deserves more…

kas
kas
5 months ago
Reply to  poldimacht

I think I heard on five live, he was the only player to feature in all our games this season. Emery true to his word , his training him up for Madrid next season at what 15mill. Another Dennis Suarez?

Glocken
Glocken
5 months ago

People will say ‘good effort’ ‘unlucky’ and ‘only the league cup’ but there must be something terribly wrong with your team if you can’t hold 3-1 or 4-2 leads (plus the Palace game). It suggests a massive issue with the teams setup & mentality. We badly have to find & buy a big defensive midfielder who can screen the back four & who gets a nose bleed if he goes past the half way line. None of our current midfielders can currently do this. Plus, the Ozil sub made absolutely no sense & didn’t help us. No idea what Emery… Read more »

War Chest
War Chest
5 months ago
Reply to  Glocken

Wait are we in 2014 again?

Amusa
Amusa
5 months ago

Shit Severus Snape, get OUT of my Club!

The_Scholar
The_Scholar
5 months ago

I’m feeling down. Not solely because we lost (it was a well fought game). I’m feeling down because this was a great competition to keep our youth firing on all cylinders. They proved they have it today, scoring the majority of our goals in a spectacular fashion. I fear for Martinelli and Willock getting the game time they deserve now. I am down because Emery decided to take off our creative outlet, the man who stretched the opposition defence out of pure fear. I am down because Torreira, the man to pick up the loose balls, was not there when… Read more »

GraeB
GraeB
5 months ago
Reply to  The_Scholar

Even a reserve Scouse team showed how to press properly. Our midfield just tend to wander threateningly without tackling, theirs got stuck in to win the ball back. Torreira was our sole exception to that.

Man Manny
Man Manny
5 months ago

Goalfest that, but is this team capable of holding on to a lead?
1-3, 2-4, and 4-5 till the third minute of injury time and we still contrive to snatch a draw from the jaws of victory!!!
I am gutted to the bone if I being honest; what a morale booster that would have been if we got over the line.
Immediately Origi scored I knew we’ll lose on penalties. Sad.
Is this team taught game management at all?

Dobbi
Dobbi
5 months ago

emery out

Amusa
Amusa
5 months ago

Why didn’t he put on Pepe or Lacca and try and nick the game?
4-4 takes our best player off. 5-4 Fucking takes our DM off.
Could have put Fucking Pepe on to at least hit them on the counter.
The opposition attacks and Emery just shits the bed, doesn’t matter if it’s Watford or Loverpool.

Alex
Alex
5 months ago

UE will surely console Dani by starting him on saturday. After all he deserves it more.

Jimmy the Rimmer
5 months ago

Bollocks.

Back 4 capable of starting a league match and still let in 5. Wtf would have happened if Liverpool’s first choice forwards had started. Ffs this is bad

UpNorth
UpNorth
5 months ago

Mad as hell about this one. We were beaten by kids for f…. sake. Player for player we fielded a far superior team, but they played in a well rehearsed structure when we relied yet again on flash of offensive brilliance combined with our standard shithouse defending. They raised their performance with20 % by orgainized play, we dropped 10% by lack of same. See the equalizer goal,it, the last minute of the game, we dom’t close down the pass ( Saka?) and Mustafi do a Mustafi, let Origi step away from him and give him all the space and time… Read more »

Man
Man
5 months ago
Reply to  UpNorth

Emery’s superpower appears to be to destroy his team’s confidence

Homer
Homer
5 months ago
Reply to  UpNorth

Allegri?
You know anything about him? Probably not.
He’s a pretty negative manager. Defensive, cautious football. Doesn’t promote youth, so he’s the LAST one AFC needs or the board/Raul should be considering.

North Bank
North Bank
5 months ago
Reply to  UpNorth

Oop North. What’s wrong with you lot? Why constantly keen on picking on 2 players only (Mustafi and Xhaka)??? It wasn’t Mustafi that was marking Origi! It was Bellerin!!!!
Although a certain angle of camera showing Mustafi in front of Origi, he was too deep to close him down. Origi was marked by Bellerin on the far post, but escaped marking by running towards the middle of goal.

Jht
Jht
5 months ago

I f*cking hate this club and I love it. Do you understand?

El__Chapitan
El__Chapitan
5 months ago
Reply to  Jht

I dont but i agree

Jimbo Jones
Jimbo Jones
5 months ago

Ozils for gendouzi….ozils was involved in everything positive we did in this game…..this guy is crazy…..emery out.

StuArse
StuArse
5 months ago

Well that was fun! Good experience for some of the kids who I thought did better than some of the experienced players today. I think Saka could do with a couple of games out of the team, don’t want him to burn out and I thought he struggled a bit today. Guendouzi had a real off day, but actually the whole team gave the ball away far too cheaply and far too often. Mustafi still has a mistake in him and Holding looks a shadow of the player he was before the injury, let’s hope he regains his form and… Read more »

North Bank
North Bank
5 months ago

Faulty Towers at full swing on show tonight with protagonist Manuel The Waiter, AGAIN!
Why the duck did he take Ozil off???
Is that his plan? He takes off anyone that dares to be our best player on the pitch???
Why didn’t he take Saka off that was anonymous?
Emery Out!

Jimbo Jones
Jimbo Jones
5 months ago

I’m drunk and angry and and spelling ozil as ozils. FFS. EMERY OUT

Thierry Walcott
Thierry Walcott
5 months ago

One thing that this game has reminded us of is that Özil and Torreira are absolutely important to our midfield play and should be playing as much as Guendouzi has been. Also, Martinelli is simply a star!

Does anybody know if we created any chances after Mesut came off except for Willock’s solo beauty of course..?

Richie
5 months ago

Nope, we barely attacked in the final 30 minutes.

Alex
Alex
5 months ago

2 shots without Mesut. 11 with.

Oregoon
5 months ago
Reply to  Alex

But wait, I don’t play Ozil but for two games because he doesn’t deserve to play so when he does deserve to play(???)(against management strategy, what what), of course, he must be replaced at 65 minutes because of fatigue…..

Did we witness a classic Catch 22? Almost touches on surreal.

Jimbo Jones
Jimbo Jones
5 months ago

NOW

PTAFC
5 months ago

It’s now in our DNA to fuck things up. Goalie danced around to much during the pen and was still in the air when they were being taken! Ozil sub was yet another cock up by emery, never ending

UpNorth
UpNorth
5 months ago

When I’m in the mode, do the goalkeepers never practice penalties? I knew at the first penalty that we would lose this one. He goes down like a sack of potatoes far to early, easy match for the penalty kicker

0232333
0232333
5 months ago

Football not defintely for emery, he should pursue a career in comedy

North Bank
North Bank
5 months ago
Reply to  0232333

As Manuel on Faulty Towers

Ace Boogie
Ace Boogie
5 months ago

If I’m being honest pregame I was hoping ozil and torreira would get about 60-70 minutes with the idea they’d be heavily involved at the weekend. So I’m not fuming at the subs as long as that’s the case. We should have won and what a result it would have been. Could have taken so much confidence but there were positives. We need to get our shit right in the league first and foremost and while the lift this game would have given us if we’d won I think we can still take something from the night.

Monkeyknees
Monkeyknees
5 months ago

Emery’s subs tonight have hammered the final nail in his coffin, surely!? Ozil was on form, playing forward, creating chances and helping the young attack… Class back heeled assist (even my Spud loving gf was in awe..) Yet, he removes him. He is clueless. Get rid, asap.

David
David
5 months ago

At 2-4 I thought Maybe, just Maybe, but eh, This is Arsenal and its sad.

WGABFG
WGABFG
5 months ago

When can we unleash Martinelli on the Premier league?