Arsenal duo pictured leaving Arteta’s house

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Arsenal’s managing director, Vinai Venkatesham, and chief contract negotiator, Huss Fahmy, have been pictured leaving Mikel Arteta’s home in Manchester; the clearest indication yet that the 37-year-old Spaniard is being lined up for the vacant head coach role.

The duo were snapped by tabloid press late last night after reportedly holding talks with the ex-Gunner for a couple of hours.

We’re not going to link to the original pictures because of the source, but you’ll no doubt find them yourself via your favourite search engine.

Earlier in the day, Arteta, Manchester City’s assistant coach, had been alongside Pep Guardiola in the visitors’ dugout as the reigning champions eased past Arsenal with a 3-0 win at the Emirates. It appears he’s not been put off by what he saw from the players in red.

Arteta came very close to becoming Arsenal’s head coach in the aftermath of Arsene Wenger’s departure. On that occasion, he was overlooked in favour of Unai Emery but it looks likely he’ll get the gig at the second time of asking.

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THEEEEO
THEEEEO

Wanted him over Emery.

Ironically I’d favour the more experienced options now given the mess we’re in. But maybe – hopefully – a fresh start is what we need.

SB Still
SB Still

Fully agree, that we are in a bigger mess now than when he was passed over.

If it was an experienced hand, I guess Freddie would have reverted to the No. 2 role. If its Arteta, I wonder what would happen to Freddie, I hope he stays. Arteta is going to need all the help he can get.

HelderHughes
HelderHughes

Remember that marshmallow test they did on kids to measure impulsivity whereby the tester put a marshmallow in front of the child and said you can eat this now or have two in ten minutes?

Well Arteta is basically doing a grown up version of this.

Reality check
Reality check

Thanks for directing to that interesting test Mr Hughes..

Dave M
Dave M

I actually hope Freddie goes and gets a managerial gig somewhere and kicks off his career. Then he can potentially come back in the future. He needs experience at the top, same goes for Arteta. Not sure how he just strolls into this gig without even leading a team…anywhere. Maybe he works (seems like the right personality that might give this bunch of clowns the hair-dryer treatment which they need from time-to-time, but seems another big risk. Advantage over Freddie is that he isn’t already a part of this complete bollocks at the moment. Which is why Freddie needs to get a breath of fresh air managing a team somewhere else. I think with some time Freddie could become a top class boss, who knows maybe even at Arsenal in the future.

T.A.
T.A.

Agreed

Tungor_Adams
Tungor_Adams

You have a point with Freddie, the issue is that it will be the same for Arteta, same squad issues, all the way up to summer at minimum. I don’t expect our equally lazy as well paid özil to move until summer, other clubs Unfortunately don’t hand big contracts out as carelessly as we keep doing.

IamaGoober

I totally understand the romanticism behind the idea of appointing Arteta. But I personally have huge concerns over giving him the Arsenal job with the way things are currently.

Firstly, take into consideration that when Pep first turned up at City. He was only able to take a team that had won the Premier League fairly recently to a 4th place finish that season. He then spent the best part of a billion pounds morphing that squad into something that was able to deliver 1st place playing under his managerial philosophy.

How much funding do we really think KSE are going to give Arteta? They literally didn’t go out and get Emery any of the players he wanted. Raul only managed to get a few players in this summer by cutting deals all over the place. Our biggest signing only happened because Lille were happy to take £10M up front and the rest in installments for Pepe. Basically every other club we tried to do business with laughed us out the room when we they saw what we were actually prepared to pay on paper.

So there is literally no way KSE are going to give Arteta anywhere near the amount of funding he would need, to implement his managerial philosophy and get this Arsenal side from 10th in the league, that’s getting beaten every week, to a team that is capable of competing spots in the top 4.

I hate to say it, but it is completely pipe dream stuff.

Futsboller
Futsboller

It’s time for Arsenal to be bold again, and I think, as I did 18 months ago, Arteta is a bold choice. I think he’s got a lot going for him, too, and the fact that he’s still interested in this job after we’ve sunk another few thousand leagues in the sea since we last gave him the shaft, is perhaps the most telling sign that he has a few ideas about how to make Arsenal a success again. I don’t think we should underestimate his persistent desire to put himself in the spotlight here with one of the most critical fanbases on the planet, with a club that has become a perennial punching bag. He knows the club, the men in charge, the players, the league, the fans, the language, the country, and he has another PL title under his belt as the #2 at City since we last interviewed him. We’re in for a bumpy ride, sure, but there’s a nice ring to Arteta’s Arsenal.

Rob
Rob

Why would Arteta not be interested in managing arsenal as his first ever job??? What low expectations that is

para
para

It was always going to be Arteta i think(who could pass up that Arteta’s Arsenal?)
Anyway, somehow i am still waiting(i’m still waiting…) for it to be both of them, Pep and Arteta, as that seemed to me to have been the original plan to get Pep here, but it did not work out then and he went to City.

Bob's Mexican Cousin
Bob's Mexican Cousin

Arteta can’t be all that different to Freddie right? If Freddie is not an option for whatever reason (experience?), Arteta shouldn’t be the front-runner for that same reason (experience).

Personally I would stick with Freddie if a top drawer experienced coach isn’t available.

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

The guy was the assistant coach for a squad that cost more than one billion. They give the required money to get the best players in each position. Any tactics is perfectly executed. How would he fare with a squad where any player in the chain can fail the tactics?

Ernest
Ernest

Intact its not only money but skills make part of the modern football we see arsenal lacks funs to support such talents

Pete
Pete

*ahem* Ancelotti? *ahem*

para
para

Arteta looks a tough cookie, just look at his eyes, he will take no shit from players methinks. He has that “look” that needs no words.
I remember that look well, when that look came on my face my wife and children just used to disappear for a little while.
The “no messing” look.

Kent
Kent

Hehe…

Dave M
Dave M

There are definitely a few players in this squad I’d like to see disappear…

Reality check
Reality check

Wenger leaving has hit us harder than it did to United when SAF left. It proves how much of a work he was actually doing now that we’ve lost all identity, direction and leadership. We desperately need some of that back.
It was between Arteta and Viera for me.. we definitely need some representation from one of our own and two former captains fit that perfectly. We need someone who can command respect and remind players what it is to play for this club. Viera seems perfect for it but he doesn’t seem to have that sekci football Wenger has spoiled us with. OTOH, Arteta seems like a more dynamic option with a much higher ceiling but it is all just a theory with him.. drama continues

Atom
Atom

The reality is we would have been in much better shape had Wenger left 3-4 years earlier given pep, Klopp and others were available while the squad was much stronger than the one he left

Bertieme
Bertieme

I think given the current “reality” it would have been better if Wenger hadn’t “left”. But then since he did, can he held responsible for what has happened to the Arsenal since? It is a shambles.

Dare
Dare

Sure.. And the board will give pep all the money he needs.. Let’s be real for once

para
para

Thats the plan!!!!!!!

Dave M
Dave M

I think you are spot on Atom, but as always the Wenger Romantics cannot fathom that. We’ve discussed before the nostalgia around how people think if Wenger had of stayed in charge all would be grand now, but we were falling apart in Wenger’s late tenure and many of the issues we are dealing with now are still a result of that. Especially restructuring the club to be more modern with a football director and a more active management and recruiting team that Wenger did not want a part of. It would have been much easier if Wenger had of been more open to that restructuring when he was here (may have resulted in more success for him too). Would also have worked better under a change to a modern and established coach like Pep/Klopp that we could have got during that period 3/4 years earlier. Now it is tough and we are still too full of weak characters in the team that are not willing to drag themselves out of this shitestorm. Rather they are looking for solutions to get dragged out – “Freddie will fix us because he cares about us and is our friend”…Which is 100% why we need a manager that will be stern with the players and a manager that will be stern with the management, and a manager from outside the current setup.

para
para

The moment Arsene Wenger said publicly that “he felt like he has awoken from a deep sleep”(or something to that effect) we should have rehired him.?

Anyway, he may help Arsenal more in his new position, making sure that FA and PL and REFS are contained and managed properly.

The Charma
The Charma

If these management upstarts think Arteta is the answer to Arsenal’s challenges, they are deluded . It’s going to get worse. He may be as clueless as Freddie. If they want cheap, it will turn up to be too expensive. Let them bite the bullet and hire a top grade proven manager who will command respect, attract talent and be tactically astute . Looking at tactically naive cheap options like Freddie and Arteta is a recipe for disaster.

ScotchEggsRule
ScotchEggsRule

Who? Remembering they’ve got to want to join us too.

jbrusty
jbrusty

It’ll be great when Arteta leads us to Premier League and Champions League glory proving that it was all him at City, and Pep’s a fraud…

At least that’s what I’m telling myself

Sheffield Gooner
Sheffield Gooner

Tough gig. Even jokes make everyone angry now apparently 😉

jbrusty
jbrusty

These truly are the end times my friend

para
para

Everyone has a personal “end time” me thinks, hence it is always “end time”

maybe
maybe

hehehe

Arsenio
Arsenio

Lol, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many votes on just one post…

Rob
Rob

An appointment made purely on hope, either no one proven wants to come to arsenal, or kronkes don’t want to pay for them. If spurs can pay 15m a year to get mourinho, why can’t we match that and get a safe pair of hands.

Arteta has no experience
The one game he managed for city he lost
Shadowed pep for 2 seasons, so why not hire peps wife instead?
Arteta was a functional midfielder not a legend by any stretch of imagination.
Arteta never awarded a single cap for Spain.

Striker
Striker

Emery was the safe pair of hands and it turned out disastrous. Maybe new ideas are required.
The only available person I will have over Arteta is Poch. Ancelloti looks done out there. Sacked 3 consecutive times and he usually takes over seasoned teams anyway.

Rob
Rob

Emery wasn’t a safe pair of hands. He was a loser with PSG in a one team League, and only won Europa League because he crashed out of champions League every time. Yes because you know so much about Arteta lol i wanting Arteta is purely on sentiment and nothing on fact, proven track record or credibility.

Mekus
Mekus

Pep was a junior team coach before he took Barca to glory land consecutively. Don’t underestimate/underrate Ateta.

jon

All managers get sacked.

Dave M
Dave M

TBF has Wenger ever been sacked? He was probably prodded, but he technically did walk through the door himself.

Atom
Atom

@dave m. Wenger was sacked – otherwise we wouldn’t have paid out almost 16 m pounds last year to Wenger and his staff. Had they resigned then we wouldn’t have owed the money

Limpar from the halfway line
Limpar from the halfway line

Envious of Sp*rz? With that eye gouging venereal disease at the helm?

Have a fucking word with yourself mate.

Rob
Rob

Envious that they got someone proven, not of the narcissist managing them now.

Dom47
Dom47

Rob, Maureen is a huge gamble for them, possibly Levy wants to sell the club before he puts the whole club in flames in 2/3rd season.

And he hasn’t been ”proven” for years now, since Real his star was waning and is today a has been.

Atom
Atom

@ rob
To be fair to Arteta he was trying to get into one of the greatest midfields the world has ever seen as it was pretty much the great Barcelona trio of Iniesta/xavi/ busquets plus xabi Alonso. Even Cesc in his prime had a hard time cracking the starting line up

We’re hiring a manager not a player – different skill sets which is why some of the most successful managers the PL had seen (Ferguson, Wenger, Maureen ) we’re completely average players

House of Goons
House of Goons

Josie? Mediocre? He sucked balls as a player. That’s an insult to mediocre players everywhere. My moms could take him

Girdleman
Girdleman

How many mothers do you have?

Rob
Rob

Cazorla and fabregas managed it, Arteta was average at arsenal

Maul Person
Maul Person

How was that midfield mentioned faring when Cazorla and Fabregas respectively got into it…?

Billy's coat
Billy's coat

Arteta was past his prime when he joined Arsenal as a player. Always thought Wenger should’ve signed him 2/3 years earlier, was class with Everton in his hayday.

jw1
jw1

Consistent. Always wrong.
But consistently wrong.

Bergkamp2Wright
Bergkamp2Wright

hahahahaha

El Hombre
El Hombre

Mourinho never even played football and he won the champions league so you never know

Jammathon
Jammathon

Are those your lips, Rob? They’re luscious.

BidOnLard
BidOnLard

I believe Pep allowed Arteta to mamage a game vs Wenger’s Arsenal and won it.

3223 WM
3223 WM

You are correct and won it convincingly.

Mtz
Mtz

Convincingly yeah, with £200m+ defence? Imagine wht wenger could’ve done wth city’s squad.

GhostOfEboue
GhostOfEboue

“Imagine wht wenger could’ve done wth city’s squad.”
Replace them with no-names and teenagers?

Homer
Homer

Exactly. Great comment.
The wishful thinkers and plastics don’t want to hear it though.

Get an Arsenal legend says Blogs. But WTF for? Some bloke with no experience at the highest level, no experience steadying a foundering ship, no experience rebuilding? Arteta walked into a newly, billion-pound rebuilt city. He had nothing to do with the Pre-Sheik days.

Arteta is my absolute last choice.

Mintoes
Mintoes

I’m kinda in agreement with you homer. Arteta ship sailed when they hired emery instead. Now we’re an even bigger mess and we go to someone with zero experience of being the main guy?! And not only that he’s going to be faced with managing a shower of shite player-wise. Not a situation for a novice. If was Arteta I’d run a mile…

para
para

It was always going to be Arteta, we should know that by now eh? Emery was a stop gap and Freddie will prepare the ground for Arteta landing.
I dont care at the moment, just want some stability for the players and deadwood gone, which will/should happen by end of this season.

Runcorn Gooner
Runcorn Gooner

If it’s true it will be a positive move and then he can try and sort things out in the January window. Starting with another fire sale.

dr Strange
dr Strange

I would turn it down if I was Arteta. He probably won’t get any backing with transfers and the team is really unbalanced.

It could be the end of his career before it begins and Arsenal needs experience. Not a gamble.

Double98
Double98

You would turn down one of the biggest jobs in world football?
He might never get the chance to manage a big team and now he has one that will be willing to give him a lot of rope.

There is no down side for Arteta – he has a club at rock bottom, with a fan base that are keen to get behind someone. He has the upper hand with the board as they are desperate to stop the bleeding and silence the crowds.

If he negotiates a January and Summer transfer fund that will allow us to buy 5 new 1st team players that augment the players in the squad that suit his vision then go for it i say!

goonerink
goonerink

5 new players in todays market?

we arent man city

Mpls
Mpls

we’ll be offloading at least 3, probably 5. And I’m betting a few of those will be current starters, possibly one or two uncomfortable ones. But we certainly won’t break even on Replacing all of that unless we take a cheaper grade of player.

I think We’re headed back to project youth, v3.0 (or maybe 7.0).

Oregoon

KSE wants project youth to succeed or at least be accepted by the fan base for the time being. Believe they are much more willing to sit and wait on that project than we are, so maybe that means Arteta. Just maybe Arteta is the only guy that wants the job under certain criteria.

Zack
Zack

He’s still stuck with this squad for about 30 games. He’d get more rope than most but if the team doesn’t improve in that time people will get restless. Then come August he could already be under big pressure.

jw1
jw1

Arteta would have Raul by the short hairs.
I would like nothing more.

A P
A P

You referring to the fans that have a 180 degree change in attitude to Freddie after WHU and Man City?

para
para

We know that fans always have a percentage of “willow trees” (bending with the wind.)

Jack Action
Jack Action

He’s in a no-lose situation. Everyone who knows anything can see that the team is a shambles. He only has to stabilize the situation to be hailed a success. Plus I think the club will be forced to give him time – if he fails then it’s Raul and company that are going to get the sack.

jw1
jw1

(Oddly, posted below just above your comment– before reading yours. Fully agree.)

Arteta would have Raul by the short hairs.
I would like nothing more.

Proud Arse
Proud Arse

Seems the useless board only will act if got cornered and nowhere to run.

Arteta it is, and whatever happens with his forward results, we must support our head coach.

Magic City Gooner
Magic City Gooner

That’s no way to run a business, much less a football club.

He should at least know what the expected summer transfer budget will be before he accepts; otherwise, this job will weigh him down too. There’s as much a personnel issue here as there is an attitude/effort issue. He can’t make chicken salad out of chicken Sokratis.

(Chicken Saliba, maybe?)

Matt Watkins
Matt Watkins

aint this the truth, only act when cornered and then they’re in a way shitter position.

Probably shoulda let wenger go with his FA cup, probably shoulda let emery go after his end of season failure….

Mercury786
Mercury786

Welcome back, Mikel

You’ve been missed

PS can you bring, De Bruyne, Silva & Laporte, with you

Thanks

Matt Stone
Matt Stone

Even Otamendi would be an upgrade, that’s how bad things are.

A Different George
A Different George

No. Otamendi is not bad most of the time, but always has a disastrous mistake in him. We already have one or two that fit that description.

Amusa
Amusa

Wasn’t he in London?
I think the Fuckers have just gone and robbed his house ?

nevermind
nevermind

Probably went through his drawers looking for a decent midfielder.

El Hombre
El Hombre

hahahahahahaaa… that’s funny

Oregoon

They walked past the one sitting on the mantle, right?

Paul312
Paul312

Josh told them their jobs were on the line unless they came up with innovative new ways to increase club income

Ashish Mann
Ashish Mann

Sign da ting!

Bob's Mexican Cousin
Bob's Mexican Cousin

He probably owns a house in London

thw14
thw14

I’m not a fan of this appointment. That said, if/when he’s appointed, I’m not going to say anything negative about him until he’s had at least 2 years in the role.

Just my small contribution as a fan, based on how difficult his job is going to be with this organisation and this group of players. I wish Emery had been given that margin, but no reason to make the next guy’s life impossible on that basis.

santi's thigh grab
santi's thigh grab

TBF any coach will need 3 to 4 years with this lot.

Geefive
Geefive

In 3 or 4 years, I can’t see much of this lot still playing for this club if this downward spiral continues…

Goontang
Goontang

Could lift up the championship title in his second year at this rate. Or even win the play offs.

Voldemort
Voldemort

I agree. I believe we need far more experience at this stage and a much stronger manager. One who will stand up to the board. My fear with a 1st time manager is he needs to build a reputation and i know that could work for us but my worry is he may not be strong enough to make the demands of the board that he clearly must to move us forward.
A proven manager who is not afraid of the sack will in my opinion make those demands.
That said i will back whoever, as much of this is now down to the players and the board as it is any manager.

kjrken
kjrken

when i was young i took up a senior management job in an organisation which thought they needed experience. every one thought i was not strong enough to push the committee to act but now i know its not abt age. its always in an individual. i strongly believe arteta has it in him to lead a big dream. if pep speaks of him the way he does, there is something in him. the worst thing will be when arsenal fail to give him a chance and another team takes him on and he becomes the next pep or kloop.

Vonnie
Vonnie

Mikel Arteta is quite a spiky character and was apparently very demanding as our captain. I don’t think he’s afraid of anyone.

Viva la prof
Viva la prof

Me either bud, absolutely the wrong appointment, no experience, and I’ve also heard he’s kind of a dick to people can’t see how he’d magically bring balance and unity to the club, I’ll also not say anything negative after this comment, I’ll always support this club even if we play in the Hertfordshire Sunday league. But I’m 100 percent withdrawing my financial support until they at least play with some passion. Nobody is getting anything Arsenal related from me this Christmas until I see some bollock busting effort from this squad.

ScotchEggsRule
ScotchEggsRule

We don’t need unity, that’s not been an obvious problem. We need players to work hard and pay attention. Having a nice manager hasn’t worked well, so far….

Runzac
Runzac

It was impossible to give Emery that margin. Here´s few of the thing that happened on his watch. Ramsey´s contract withdrawn – Koscielny played to the ground resulting in him leaving – Özil in then out then in and out again – letting the team vote 5 captains including Özil that he´s trying to “manage” – Emery just had made too many mistakes and had lost the necessary respect

thw14
thw14

You seem to think the next few years are going to be an uncomplicated tale of competence extinguishing a dumpster fire. My sympathies.

Mintoes
Mintoes

Runzac – emery had nothing to do with Ramsey leaving. That’s all on the kroenkes…they would
Not meet his contract demands. Emery played Ramsey every chance he could. Why? Because he’s twice the player Ozil is. We kept the wrong one mate.

A P
A P

Emery is incompetent. Get over it.

Mintoes
Mintoes

You can blame him for poor team performances but you can’t blame him for Ramsey leaving. That’s on Kroenke.

ScotchEggsRule
ScotchEggsRule

Emery had 18 months and we were getting worse and worse…he had his chance and spunked it up the wall.

NEXT!!

sami
sami

People seem to forget that the last Pep assistant to become a full time manager did pretty fucking well – the late great tito vilanova

Goontang
Goontang

Fair few decent managers were assistants. Got to learn the trade somehow. Jose. Tito. Even Joachim Low was Klinnsmanns assistant for Germany.

Emery came as a proven winner and coach yet I found his tactics and game plan to be absolutely mind boggling. Which leaves us where we are.

We arent making champions league next season. So I dont really think it matters if we finish 5th or 12th. The season is a right off. Why not see what someone like Arteta can do.

DaDude
DaDude

I wouldn’t mention Löw here. Yes, he was the assistant of Klinsmann for 2 years. But before he was a proven head coach with 8 years of experience, during this time he coached Stuttgart in a european final and won national titles in Germany (cup) and Austria (league). So it’s not like he learned the job from Klinsmann, who by the way was a rookie coach when he took over Germany in 2004.

kjrken
kjrken

how about pep, how much experience did he have before taking over at bacca

A Different George
A Different George

I think, like Zidane, he coached the B team–Spanish equivalent maybe of League 1 in England.

Andre Santos' car keys
Andre Santos' car keys

Guardiola also won promotion to the Spanish Championship in that single season before taking over at Bacca.

Frank Lampard didn’t meet his objective as Derby boss but after completing one full season he was quite highly regarded so I guess he got some goodwill tailwind into the Chelsea job.

Arteta was caretaker for a single game when Pep was sick or something. At this moment even Sol Campbell has more managerial experience having kept Macclesfield Town in League One.

I’m sure Arteta has plenty of bright ideas but let him start somewhere else for everyone’s sake.

Mintoes
Mintoes

That was the same argument with emery – give him the first season, doesn’t matter where we finish. Except
It did matter in the end. 5th was not good enough and when going thru the bad patch last 2 months that was it. We wouldn’t give Arteta anything more than that but he’s arguably less equipped to handle the expectations than emery was.

Trey Stone
Trey Stone

so you’d rather be out of Europe altogether next year?

Gilberto
Gilberto

If it true, he needs to get in a defensive coach, why not Keown ? he did a great job for the CL run……

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

Defending nowadays is totally different than 20-30 years ago. We want to play the high line and today these types of defenders are more similiar to defensive midfielders than classic centerbacks. That is why we need to be so much better at keeping the ball and preventing the counter attacks. City defenders look pretty lost when defending deep. The same as ours (though better) but the main difference is they are minimizing those situations.

ScotchEggsRule
ScotchEggsRule

This team couldn’t defend in the style of 20 years ago OR nowadays. I’d rather they just defend, I don’t care how or where or why, just that they defend.

Zadok
Zadok

We need someone who has managed to achieve more wins against Pepe and Klopp.

ScotchEggsRule
ScotchEggsRule

I’d rather a manager that can beat the likes of Silva, Solskaer, Howe and Dyche. Let’s start off realistic eh!

Rich
Rich

The problem Emery had was originally people said it was a 2-3 year project, but then half way through that transition, people panicked and got frustrated, because the majority of people in society, and particularly Londoners, have absolutely no idea how success is won and earned over time, they think the world owes them something, and that’s why London is full of Corbynites…..

He also wasn’t backed hard enough in moving certain players on, in addressing clear squad deficiencies, or investment in medium to long term defensive and midfield options.

Transitions are always painful, and if you’re not strong enough internally to see through what you started? Then you run the risk of being stuck in transitional purgatory.

This is a massive job, if Arteta is our man? Then people need realistic expectations, and providing he retains the support of the dressing room, they need to give him time to build and work through problems that arise from going with an inexperienced team, which I think is our best, and probably only available option.

There’s no easy fixes from the situation we find ourselves in, fans need to decide, support the team and manager through this difficult transition? Or get bored, disinterested, have girly temper tantrums within weeks of a new manager being appointed….
Which will just leave us trapped in a negative cycle of misery and perpetual change, which will never provide us with team structure or any continuity that’s needed to produce a successful project.

Goonertom
Goonertom

downvote for the following reasons;
– Criticising londoners for being corbynites, but you support a london based team.
– ‘how success is won and earned over time’ – contradictory sentence, if success is earned over time, then its not won is it.
– you sound like your bemoaning the fact emery was not given more time given his 2-3 year projection. I think the reason for this is, it didnt look like he actually was implementing any defined style of play and based on his history, the end result of his project is likely being no more than a sevilla level europa league squad.

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

Emery was never going to rescue it, should have replaced him ages ago

Rich
Rich

I wasn’t criticising Londoners for being Corbynites, I was making the point that the problems the club faces with regard to its fan base, are largely societal ones.

You have to earn success to win, if you don’t win then you’re not successful….

Left wing politics tells kids that if they finish 9th, then they didn’t really lose, so I can understand how you were confused as a lefty Londoner over my initial comment…

He didn’t implement a style because….

Last season he didn’t have any wingers, Iwobi, Ozil, Mkhitaryan are all inverted no10 types, and Welbeck and Aubameyang were no9s playing wide, cutting in…. we had no natural width in for forward positions.

Bellerin got injured, Monreal class player, but was 33, so lacked athleticism, and he didn’t trust Kolasinac, Niles or Lichtstiner defensively, so he move to wing backs, something he never did before, but you use what you have available, years of bad squad planning was not Emery’s fault.

His two best players were no9s, so fitting them together was tough, Ljungberg is only getting away with this, because he’s In a honeymoon period, and fans have already given up, but Wenger, Emery and now Freddie, have all touched on the issue of partnering these 2 in certain games.

Emery was right on Ozil and Mkhitaryan, two lightweight forwards, not build for the intensity of the league, but we couldn’t get Ozil out….

Emery literally told Mustafi and Ozil to f*ck off, but they chose to stay and collect their pay cheques…

We lost Iwobi, Rambo, Koscielny, Monreal, Mkhitaryan, Welbeck, Cech, Lichtstiner, which is a lot of experience.

We signed Tierney who’d just had a double hernia operation, no pre-season, and we knew we probably would see until November

We signed Pepe, who Emery knew would take a while to settle, who also had no pre-season, and this is the reason he wanted Zaha, Pepe might turn out the better option? But the readiness and aggression of Zaha would have been a bonus.

Martinelli was a success, but is still 18 and raw.

We signed Ceballos on loan with no option, which was insane, because we’ve seen with Fabinho, Kovacic and Keita that it took them a season, and Ceballos will likely be leaving, just as he’s settling, in the immediate, Ceballos was always going to be a downgrade on Rambo…

Luiz is what you get when you sell Koscielny for £5 mill, then replace him with a similar amount…

Saka replacing Mkhitaryan was the right choice, but in the immediate we’ll suffer, because he’s 18 and raw, and that would be the same for any manager….

Saliba will be 19, but expecting a 19 Yr old to fix our problems, is unrealistic.

Guendouzi is 20, I think he’ll come good, but like Ndidi at Leicester it took him 2.5 years, so he’s probably at halfway point of his development, these things take time…

Xhaka, Sokratis, Mustafi, Luiz are all uncoachable…..

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

I don’t think hard work and success should be punished but not a fan of the cold heartless dog eat dog economics that we seem to favour in this country at the moment either

I read in the papers this morning that Bernie Ecclestone’s daughter just had her £50m jewelry collection stolen. She has a car lift and a dog spa amongst other things.

Then people are having to go to food banks because they don’t have enough money to eat.

This is a very rich country, there’s really no excuse for that. Just go outside and look at all the cars, houses etc that people own. The package holidays and flat screen TVs that people buy

Explain to me why some doctor should have to work 100 hours a week so I can afford to spend a bit more on a car.

Rich
Rich

Countries that have tried implementing equality, have ended up with neither liberty or equality, the only people who benefit from big centralised bureaucracies, are the bureaucrats themselves…..

Countries that have put freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility at the core of their politics, always have the highest standard of living.

Bureaucracies are notoriously wasteful, and the idea that nationalising infrastructure is an effective way to increase standards of living, has been proven to be false, and countries that have tried it, have suffered with devistating consequences, also if you think Corbyn can run the national broadband? Or that the Government should be in a position to control the internets content? Then you’re out of your mind….. Just look at what’s happened with Turkey, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and every other tinpot Marxist government when they’ve shut down the internet and a free press…. these are all countries that Corbyn has spoken fondly of in the past…

No country can thrive, or even survive, whilst those that produce, end up paying for those that don’t, Corbyn’s style of politics is pure poison, instead of teaching personal responsibility, they teach people to blame their woes on billionaires, and anyone else who’s worked hard to get ahead, it’s the politics of jealousy, envy and division, instead of the politics of hope, aspiration and taking responsibility of your own life.

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

Not advocating Corbynism necessarily but at present the balance is much too far the other way.

A lot of people are where they are more by accident of birth than anything else.

Plenty of people work two jobs and get paid minimum wage. Often so the likes of Mike Ashley can be a bit richer.

Doesn’t seem like a very deserving bloke to me, just a greedy cunt.

Rich
Rich

Mike Ashley is a self made billionaire, he worked hard, has created thousands of jobs, and SportsDirect pay tens of millions in taxes each year.

I don’t understand why people are against hard work and success? And see wealth creators as a negative thing?

I agree though on wages, we need a high wage, low tax economy, there needs to be money in the economy, for the economy to function.

The idea that you can tax your populace into prosperity, is fanciful at best, and the left continue to make the mistake of believing lower tax, equals a lower overall tax take, which isn’t necessarily the case.

btw
btw

Never has lowering taxes resulted in higher tax take, that is a fantasy of conservatives. Fact is that the super wealthy pay less in taxes because capital gains are taxed less and money is hidden offshore. People get super rich in part from a high functioning society, paying higher taxes ensures that the society remains a healthy and innovative marketplace. Don’t point at Venezuela and make straw man arguments about the government nationalizing industries, nobody wants to do that. Liberals in western countries want to be more like Denmark, where living standards are ridiculously high, trust me. That said Corbyn is terrible and deserved to lose.

David Hillier's luggage
David Hillier's luggage

Mike Ashley has £600m tax bill hanging over his head, is making thousands of hard working people redundant to pay for it and those he does still employe are suffering the worst working conditions of any retailer and are effectively being paid less than minimum wage.

As for you comments on Londoners and their voting habits, the country is in a pretty bad shape as it is, but it would be on it’s knees if it wasn’t for Londoners. At least a quarter of the UK’s GDP comes from London (some estimate it’s nearer a third). Why do you even support a London club if you hate our city so much?

Whatever axe you have to grind, you found the wrong place to do it, Nigel (sorry, I mean Rich)

Rich
Rich

Ashley is on the verge of settling his VAT bill with the Belgians, and SportsDirect do as a fact pay tens of millions in tax each year, and he’s created thousands of jobs.

I don’t have a problem with Londoners, I just think they’ve had their minds poisoned by the likes of Corbyn and McDonnell, who are self confessed Marxists.

45% of people under 35 in this country think communism could work, which is a huge worry, if would be cheaper to send them on holiday to Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, China, Laos or Vietnam to see the devastation and suppression that comes from having a big centralised government, that kills aspiration and ambition.

Paying for those flights and hotels would be cheaper than going through 5 years of carnage, and the ironic thing would be, to bring business back, we’d have to go from middle of the road tax brackets, to dropping corporation and business tax down to 10%, just to entice business back into the country, stimulate the economy, and get people back to work.

Alternatively they should be forced to sit down and talk to anyone who live in east Germany or behind the Iron Curtain before it was brought down.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

It’s exactly the same with the EU, the original idea of the EU was fantastic, to promote free trade and cooperation with neighbouring countries who’d been at war, but like always, power corrupts, and the EU now serves nothing but the bureaucrats themselves, and the giant corporations that control them.

It’s just a matter of time before the EuroZone debt crisis triggers another global economic catastrophe, there’s an €11 trillion black hole, and the European Central Bank is broke, and currently printing €20 billion a month, within the next 12months to 10 years the whole things going to go up in smoke, it’s a ticking time bomb, and there’s nothing they can do at this point to reverse the damage, again this is all down to big government, that has tried to control everything from the centre ground

And remoaners have the audacity to call us Brexiteers thick…..

voster
voster

Your simplification of equality (to be “implemented?) is so simple, it undermines your arguments about taking time to fix things. The Scandinavian countries and Germany have higher degrees of equality and do very well. France is pilloried for their socialist state, but score higher on productivity than the UK regularly.

The reason why folk who earn more money (and frankly, that includes me to a certain extent) get taxed more is because we can also make income from wealth and capital, not just labour.

When you have a thousand pounds, making the next thousand is hard. When you have a million pounds, making another thousand is easy – just pop it into a low risk index linked fund. Earning money in this way is not working hard. It’s just using existing wealth. This does not create more wealth via labour. And if wealth begets wealth too easily, than there is no incentive to work hard.

The worse comes with inheritance. Receiving wealth without doing any work (you did not work hard to choose your parents). The numbers show that social mobility has decreased since the 70s. Inherited wealth plays a larger part now in how many opportunities you get. You don’t deserve your inherited wealth by hard work, and neither do your (or my, or anyone’s) children.

I worked damned hard for my money. But so do many people on minimum wage who are unable to afford greater educational resources for their children. Yet, they will be blamed by the likes of you that they must not have taken personal responsibility for not working hard.

Utter bollocks.

Rich
Rich

When we lowered corporation tax from 30% to 20% our tax take went up by 44% we made our economy more competitive, we invited more FDI, we lifted our country out of a recession, that led to the current job numbers, that are the best in almost half a century.

It’s better to invite two companies to invest at 20% who may have gone elsewhere, than to attract one company who pays 30%……

Same when the Tories took the top bracket up from 45% to 50%, our tax take went down, we put it back to 45% and it went up again.

The idea that you should punish socially rewarding behaviour is insane, if you think the government can spend your money better than you? You’re out of your mind….

The biggest problem we have around productivity is an endless supply of unskilled Labour and trades people, the Australian style points system along with technological advances implemented by Dominic Cummings who’s going to rip our civil service to shreds, is going to revolutionise this country and take us into the 21st century.

The idea that you work all your life, to then hand the fruits of your labour over to the government is insane, it’s state theft.

I agree leaving your children with a great work ethic and some durability is better than leaving them a giant cheque, but that’s not a decision me, you or anybody else should make, the only person who should be responsible for their own money, is the person who’s money it is, it’s called freewill.

If you’re keen to pay more tax to make things more fair? Just get yon the governments website, and you can just voluntarily give them a bigger chunk of your current income…..

You don’t have to install some tinpot Marxist mentalist, who hasn’t got two brain cells to rub together to do so…..

Zack
Zack

Better than right wing politics whose method is to lie about everything and blame brown people

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

It’s the only way you can sell something so obviously shit

Homer
Homer

That post is an absolute shed load of revisionist history. (Though I applaude your industry!)

One or two examples, as I don’t have the time to unpack this entire comment: Lichtsteiner. He was terrible every time he played. Did he bring some sort of “unity” or grit to the dressing room? No, not on the evidence of an historic late season collapse and getting dominated by chelsea in the EL final.
Maybe Saliba, but he’s an unknown quantity at this point in the Prem. So as far as we know, he’s another Mustafi.
Saka is what, 18? He’s totally a raw kid. What are we counting on him for? He needs a season out on loan where he gets regular football.

So, yeah … no. Not even.

A Different George
A Different George

At least Satori isn’t a fucking Thatcherite.

Mintoes
Mintoes

@rich, left wing politics aside, you make some valid points about the current mess we find ourselves in…

Dom47
Dom47

Rich, emery failed because he sucks, he us just an average coach. See what Rodgers did at Leicester. No justification for emery anywhere, nowhere to hide.

Rich
Rich

Rodgers is a top experienced coach who plays attractive football, and is from what I read, a fantastic man manager.

But Leicester are a very well run club, and without a back room team who know what they’re doing, you’ll never go anywhere….. Rodgers inherited a group of players peaking at the right time.

Chilwell is 22 with 100+ PL games

Evans for £3 million was a snip, remember Arsene being skewered for sniffing around him?

Maddison is 22-23, who’s coming out the other side of his learning curve, after loans, and a season each in the championship and PL.

Leicester knew they’d have to sell Maguire in 12 months in summer of 2018, so they signed Soyuncu for £21 mill, to give him a season to settle into his surroundings, also if you wait to replace a player, the selling clubs knows you have a demand, so the selling club just increase the price, it’s basic economics, and Leicester’s planning and scouting was exemplary.

Pereira is one of the leagues best right backs, again top scouting and recruitment.

Ndidi has played a 100 PL, but started coming through last season, and is excelling at 23

Had he gone to Arsenal? Fans would never have given him space to grow, he’d have been consigned to the rubbish bin within weeks, deemed never going to be good enough… blah blah blah

If Leicester qualify for CL? Which I suspect they will, and they lose a few players, and are playing extra games? Then watch their form drop, because we’ve seen with a city this season, integrating players hurts in the immediate, particularly signings outside the PL.

I’m not a Rodgers fan, but I think he’s very good, but he’s inherited an entirely different set of circumstances to both Emery and Arteta…

Gooner Ed
Gooner Ed

“Girly tantrums”? You obviously haven’t watched our women’s team.

Dom47
Dom47

Rich, are you Santori in disguise? Same level of arrogance…

A Different George
A Different George

Dom47, see my post above.

Dom47
Dom47

Posted before I saw your comment, diff George. Guess great minds think alike 🙂

voster
voster

Corbyn advocated some very painful and fundamental transitions, and Johnson peddled quick solutions to complicated problems, and will spend whatever extra headroom the finances of the last chancellor left him (a man Mr. Johnson sacked from the party).

I don’t think you quite understand policy, here. Nor do I think you actually understand hard work.

ScotchEggsRule
ScotchEggsRule

A truly moronic comment, the likes of which sum up the poster perfectly.

jon

Reportedly, bookmarkers don’t take bets on Arteta any more.

I still think the reports of a personal meeting is not necessarily the smoking gun. They had personal meetings with all prospects the last time around.

henry
henry

Vinai: Would like to become Arsenal’s head coach?
Arteta: With the current set of players? No.
Vinai: Okay bye.
Arteta: Adios.

gunnertron
gunnertron

I hope the reported impact he has made to City is more than just creative writing and exageration as we could do with that. I really liked him as a player and his hair too and surely he is a hungry manager looking to prove a point too.

We need to back him in Jan to give him something to work with to boost this team and enforce his philosophy. As I don’t think certain areas of our squad can be coached to be better – no matter who we bring in.

Viva la prof
Viva la prof

Honestly I only remember his magnificent hair

Birdkamp
Birdkamp

That press conference he gave before the final in…2015 (?) was a landmark in retrospect. I don’t know what it says about his ability to manage, but I think most people who saw that could sense that he’d end up in the dugout somewhere. Ordinary players just don’t talk like that.

Apangu Iddi Amin
Apangu Iddi Amin

He is the right person i wanted Arsenal to try and test and without fail he will deliver unless the purchasing team will be the one to let him down by not giving him the money he needed for rejuvenating the team and the team also needs an overhaul other wise its going to be the same thing that will happen to the team especially no DM to protect the defense plus the weak defense that we currently have the board members should not sleep as they try to solve the tactician issue.

Dom47
Dom47

woooow… Use some commas buddy! 🙂

Dom47
Dom47

They came uninvited, jumped over the fence and were thrown out, as Mikel is not interested in our mess now… Squires could make a funny cartoon from that…

Gavin Binding
Gavin Binding

Let’s get it done and see what happens. We’re no longer one good season away from being a champions League team. We’ve lost our way drastically. We’re now a long term project with a load of youth players, who would be more open to learning new ideas than the more ‘experienced’ players who, let’s be honest, have been absymal over last 2-3 years. I’m more than happy to see us shift the old guard out and go hard on an identity that fits more with Arsene’s values. Arteta’s a handsome, hard bastard, who wants to play attractive football. It may not work, but we won’t know until we try. At least he has the right ingredients. Another ‘experienced’ coach is only going to give these ‘experienced’ players more opportunities to disappoint, while possibly struggling with the language and culture. We’re not going to get ahead by leaning on Allegri or Ancelloti. We’re going to get ahead by being brave and getting in with the new wave of coaches before everyone else. Arteta is clearly considered to be a part of that group. So, let’s take a punt.

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

I suppose Arteta would be cheap…

This is a massive gamble considering the position we find ourselves. A rookie boss walking into a club in full-blown crisis. Crazy.

But who knows? Maybe it’ll work. Arteta will have to be a genius to do anything with this squad of average players.

Dan Nichols
Dan Nichols

i’ve seen Arsenal under Mee, Neill, Howe, Graham, Rioch, Wenger and Emery and anyoe saying they know how good a guy’s gonna be is just makig it up basically. You never can tell.sometimes your hunch will be right, sometimes wrong. But i do think Arteta actually has a decent hand in terms of expectation, all he has to do is steady the ship, right now we are mid table, for the first time in a while he can replace big names with more obscure (and cheap or homegrown) players as Graham did with a dysfunctional bunch of former stars, he has Freddy with knowledge of youngsters, an affinity and knowledge of the cluband if you expect us to make the champions league this season you are in dreamland (barring the golden ticket of europa which cpuld happen). For the first time we can afford to lose some games as we improve and is any experienced player in our squad sacrosanct, id say not. not even Auba. i have no idea whether he can do a good job but i think his appointment is no longer trying to lug the old dam, but is about building a new one and in some ways, i can enjoy that like i did watching Adams, Keown, Thomas, Rocky, Merson and Hayes all those years ago.
Also when things do turn around its sometimes surprising how quickly the momentum rolls back.

back4bedrock
back4bedrock

give Arteta the job and let him go out and buy 2 world class center backs in Jan – I strongly believe if we had two quick/mobile center backs WHO CAN DEFEND and drive forwards with the ball we can at least be competitive this season.. the most recent CB who had this in his locker was Koscienly in his day! we have enough good options in other positions to at least be competitive this season.. start from the front and work forwards.. it’s so obvious how bad we are back there in the center. FIX IT!

Homer
Homer

Yeah, well the said 2 world class center backs (WTF that means) gotta want to play for Arsenal now. Objectively speaking, who would to right now? And for a rookie manager with a club in chaotic transition? Get a freaking grip.

Wenger could attract top talent because he was revered globally as a revolutionary, a genius. Despite the lack of titles, his presence brought great players. Arteta is a nobody.

Fireman Sam
Fireman Sam

We don’t actually need “world class” Center backs.

We just need some vaguely decent ones who (1) understand basic defensive discipline and technique and (2) have the will and drive not to concede goals.

We need a return of aggression and spirit. This can’t be all on the manager. We need players that are naturally inclined to be steely.

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

Does arteta even have his own coaching staff?

DontAskMe
DontAskMe

Maybe he’ll pinch Pep so that he can put his cones out

Andre Santos' car keys
Andre Santos' car keys

Joan Capdevila and Almunia to be his nos. 2.

Jon
Jon

Honestly, is there a manager who can organize, attack and who can get instructions to the players. It seems that the players do not take instruction for full 90 minutes. And looks like the scare factor is in the team.

When there is no right players to defence then Wenger’s attack is the best defence might be the best for the remaining season.

Arsenalista
Arsenalista

Let’s just get this done

Swifty
Swifty

I do hope they agreed a suitable transfer budget….

Arimnestos

Personally, I believe him to be the ideal choice or a mid to long term project.
If we have patience I feel he will develop his managerial skills alongside developing the team.
If we expect a complete upsurge in performance in a fortnight I think we’re setting ourselves up for disappointment no matter the coach selected.

Jack Action
Jack Action

We know nothing about Arteta as a manager, but I’m 99% sure he’s not a tactical pragmatist. We need a stylist, someone with a vision that can in turn bleed through the club and give purpose to recruitment, purpose to youth coaching and purpose to financial management. Let’s give it a shot.

Pépé Le Pew.
Pépé Le Pew.

Big mistake! He has the charisma of a sloth.

Geefive
Geefive

He’s not put off by the team because the idiots Vinai and Huss will probably give him Wenger-like wages just for the fuck of it.

HoldenontoArsenal
HoldenontoArsenal

Arsenal is not special and does not need to be special to win my support. We do not have some sheik who has a thousand wives. We do not have some Oligarch trying to destroy democracy across the world. We do not have so many Spanish and other fans worldwide we ignore FFP rules. We are a quite well funded team with too many spoiled fans that faces the same future almost all other EPL teams face. Expect about a 80-95% chance of turnover in managers every 2-3 years at least for the next 10-20 years. That is what EPL football is now.

HoldenontoArsenal
HoldenontoArsenal

If you think Liverpool is some shining beacon of hope…it is. It is also a place with more loyal and supportive fans than ours and simply look around at how many other teams without sheiks, oligarchs and bottomless budgets accomplish what Liverpool has…just basic mathematic probabilities and truth.

Mark
Mark

The thing I hope everyone realizes with whichever manager is chosen (I do like Arteta as a choice) is there will be no quick fixes. The problems are so much more than a manager can impact in the short term. The best we can hope for is an improvement in the effort and attitude of the players and some tactical consistency. I would love to see us play the way Liverpool plays, but know that our personnel isn’t anywhere near capable of playing that style. There are so many holes in the squad that need to be filled with new signings and departures too, but realize that is going to take years likely to accomplish.

Arsenonymous
Arsenonymous

Let’s do it, and I would love for Freddie to stay in the setup.

Mekus
Mekus

The sooner the better.

santori
santori

At this point, they seem desperate.

Clearly and unsurprisingly, Freddy is in the deep end and is barely threading water.

I’m not convinced Arteta is the man for the job.

He’s brought up in the tactical approach of Pep Guardiola which may likely not suit our team (as Emery has tried and failed) particularly without the technical assets City possess.

BUT timing is a problem.

There are probably better options for us , managers with a bit of discipline and structure to instill like Ten Hag at Ajax or Simeone at Athletico.

Whether the board is strong willed enough to make an aggressive play for them in the Jan window is the issue. Neither these managers likely to leave till summer but prob pliable given Ajax is out of CL and Simeone is (by his standards struggling/not having the best of times in his 8th season)

Also there is Ancelotti albeit he is himself prob less likely to turn things around at a club without star quality players that he has had at disposal over his years at Bayern, RM, etc.

Then there is Ponch and Allegri. Allegri is a question mark outside of Italy but maybe waiting to see how Bayern unfolds (or City). Ponch prob won’t come to a crosstown rival with a view towards returning to Spain (Barca if not if the Catalans wait on Pep possibly then Athletico)

So yet again we are scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Arteta prob a much better pick than Viera but does not convince me in being able to deliver what we want.

Although at this point, it may be a rescue mission no more.

We are lazy and directionless without gumption.

Where we should be getting in the top end managers and directors of football, we are yet again making short cuts.

Where we should have replaced BOTH Mslintat and Sanlhi with Luis Campos (at Lille) to truly help Emery, we persisted with someone who preferred to neglect Cback needs in preference for an existential addition at 27m of Saliba and 7m on a panic buy for Sideshowbob. The money could have at very least bought us Soyoncu.

Same old problem.

Hopefully at very least if Arteta comes in, we arrest the slide, but I don’t think he will compete against the very best (Plus given our squad) in Moanrinho, Pep and Klopp.

Underwhelming and all too predictable to say the least.

Andre
Andre

Apparently Ancellotis going to Everton

karl
karl

I wonder if he’ll have a budget for defenders to add to Arsenal’s superhero Leno! The amount of practice he gets has transformed him into a top keeper.

Daniel
Daniel

Arteta is good likewise Ljunberg. But then, can they be given resources to work with by the board? Ljunberg made a simple request for the bench to be resourced with adequate staff. The board is yet to accede to that. Not all great soccer players can become good managers. That is why it is necessary for Arteta and Ljunberg to kick-start their carriers with a lower club. Pochettino is a tried and tested manager(not campaigning for him). Arsenal is a top club with a large fan base. At this moment, the board must look beyond revenue interest and focus more on not toiling with the hearts of the fans by going in for a top notch manager who will win back the hearts of the fans. The fans have suffered enough. No fan group has patience like Arsenal fans. It seems the board wants a manager they can easily control. Long live AFC!,

Caligunner
Caligunner

Arteta might become a great manager one day but I don’t think he’s right person for the job.

Would he even be considered if never played for arsenal?

If he was taking over for pep at city as his assistant with no experience is one thing but to bring him here is another. People keep bringing up pep and ZZ, they at least managed the B squads at their respective clubs.

Arsenal are going to be paying arteta to learn on the job.

@rich, you seem to soo invested into emery’s fate, can’t let it go that he isn’t a big club manager.

No, I don’t think it was an easy job for emery. Ideally it’s a whole new project and should have been given time. That would mean a coherent transfer strategy but I also feel that Raul isn’t up to that task either after this past summer. OTOH he has to show progress. This is year 2 and it’s gotten worse than year 1.(I wanted him gone after year 1) you can’t just be patient and wait to see what happens during year 3 with what is happening up till 13th game.

Bodie CI5
Bodie CI5

Who ever comes in, first things first is a hole new back four, not one of them is good enough

GD10
GD10

This concerns me. Man city often defend as bad and erratically as we do.
That said, if Arteta is the man then we should give our full support and the board should give him all the tools he needs to succeed.

Tek9
Tek9

I actually agree with you regarding Man city’s defending, they just as bad as us but they keep the ball better, their defence hardly gets exposed. We only had one short on target and they had Otamendi and Fernandinho in defence, that can’t be better than what we have. I just hope with Arteta we keep the ball better, add a CB and maybe a defensive midfielder, let’s wait and see.

Ausdrexler
Ausdrexler

No doubt the club will back him with funds in the transfer window. Surely he has a list of players he wants to fix the problems and the club would need to assure him he has the backing to go get them in January and the following window.
Else why take the job? It would be no different to what we have now.
The club has got to get serious, spend some money and fix this decline. Any manager knows the current team is a shambles, it needs an injection of new blood.

baz00r
baz00r

I think the main issue right now is the job is not that attractive. No UCL (probably no EL). Shit squad. Shit owners. So it’s probably slim pickings right now hence the Arteta appointment.

I would have preferred somebody with more of a track record (Ancelotti/Benitez for example) but due to the cost, or availability they were probably not an option.

Although not my ideal choice I am quite confident Arteta will be better than Emery given his exposure to Guardiola and Wenger. It would be nice to at least see some attacking football. I think Arteta can probably do that.

RoyalT

Espn just reported he meet with stans son and after his contract run out this season he will be the manager for 2020-and beyond. Announcing soon in a couple days. I hope he keeps Freddie on his staff along with Steve bould and edu

Mpls
Mpls

I believe His contract is until 2021. We’d have to buy him out.

In the meanwhile, if we’re riding with Freddie until the end of the season I sure as fuck hope the club allows him a few support staff, otherwise Arteta’s first season in charge might be a promotion fight.

Someone better tell the Kroenke how much television and turnstile revenues they stand to lose..

Moff12
Moff12

If he can make our defence as strong & rigid as his hair then I’m all in.

UpNorth
UpNorth

Arteta will face the same issues as Emery and Freddie. One thing is defense, but frankly they’re of a decent quality if they were protected by midfield and offensive players. The main issue here is that our senior players don’t give a damn wether we lose or win. Nice to win of course, but not if it requires 90 minutes of hard work. Auba has in his mind left Emirates, Ozil and Luiz are here for last big paycheck in their carreer, Torreira has guts, but’s fed up with teammates and Héctor plays for Barca next season.
The youngsters are promising, but too raw and also got bad influence from the seniors. God, I miss Viera and Adams type of players, we’re totally without leadership im this club .

Qwaliteee
Qwaliteee

I miss George Graham. Fuck me, I’d love to see him tearing into this lot. I’d take a big bag of popcorn to a training session, sit there with my feet up watching George massage a few egos – especially Ozil – and laugh my bollocks off.

weebgooner
weebgooner

I am just a bit worried that he has no experience being the Head Coach before this, though learning from Guardiola might be as good as experience being Head Coach.
But I hope he will prove everybody wrong.

Snc
Snc

If Emery, Ljungberg and Arteta can’t inspire these group of prima donnas, the club should get rid of these players. No point getting great managers coming in when our first squad can’t even fit into the system. Only time will tell.

para
para

Make no bones, Arteta is a strong person, that will not be messed wiith i think. Everyone is calling for experience, but that is not what Arsenal needs. Arsenal needs someone who can take command of a flailing ship, give it a course and direction and makes sure his “sailors” follow his command.
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The first thing i would do is to say to them:
So, every home game we lose, we all have to pay 2 days wages, this is not acceptable losing home games.
We are ALL going to learn defending, yes ALL of us.
Have fun here or leave.

Arsenalista
Arsenalista

Maybe they were house hunting