Arsenal: Ramsdale, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Kiwior, Jorginho, Rice, Odegaard, Saka, Nelson, Havertz
Subs: Raya, Cedric, Walters, Sousa, Nwaneri, Smith Rowe, Nketiah, Trossard, Martinell
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Arsenal’s FA Cup hopes ended at the first hurdle, after a 2-0 defeat to Liverpool at the Emirates this afternoon.
Mikel Arteta made changes to the side that lost to Fulham last weekend, handing Kai Havertz a start up front with Gabriel Jesus injured, while Jorginho and Reiss Nelson were also added to the starting line-up.
The Gunners had a good early chance after a brilliant Aaron Rasmdale pass to Nelson, over the top of the Liverpool defence. He was one on one with the keeper and had a chance to lob it over him, but tried to go around and the angle was too tight as he shot into the side-netting.
Odegaard created for Nelson next, but his shot deflected wide for a corner, before Havertz tested Alisson from distance but the keeper was equal to it. Carelessness at the back provided more opportunities for Arsenal to test the Liverpool defence, Odegaard’s shot the best of them as it crashed off the bar and away to safety.
It was a frenetic start, after which the game calmed down a bit with both sides enjoying spells of possession without too much in the way of chances. Nunez headed wide from a corner, Saka had a pop which was easy for Alisson, and after good pressure from Rice, Odegaard created again for Havertz who needed toi hit it first time but took a couple of touches and was crowded out.
Rice had a shot from distance but it didn’t trouble the keeper, but White’s shot a few moments later certainly did, forcing Alisson into a good save. From the resulting corner Havertz got up well, but headed wide when he shiould have hit the target. The German had another chance after we won the ball high up the pitch, but took too long again and fired straight at the keeper from a wider angle than the shot needed to be from.
At the other end, there was a moment of real danger when Alexander-Arnold overlapped and hit the bar wiith a cracker of shot, and the teams went in level at the break.
There were no changes from either manager at half-time, and Gomez had to defend well against Saka after he got in behind early on. Gomez and Jones shot over for the visitors as they doubled their shot count, showing more as an attacking force. Nunez was next to have a go, flashing a shot not far beyond the top corner, and the Uruguayan was denied in our box by a brilliant Saliba tackle.
At the other end, there was another great chance for Arsenal after a clever free kick played Havertz in behind, he stood it up, Gabriel missed a point blank header and then Saka hooked it over from close range.
Jurgen Klopp made two changes in the 58th minute, sending on Jota and Gravenberch for Mac Allister and Gakpo. Havertz was again involved down the left, his cross deflected almost caught Alisson out, it came to Saka at the back post and he put it over the bar rather than put it back into the middle.
Mikel Arteta made his first change in the 62nd minute, when Gabriel Martinelli replaced Nelson. Saliba picked up a yellow card for a foul on Jota, Martinelli caused Alexander-Arnold problems but couldn’t deliver a good corner, and Nunez played an awful pass when he could have presented Diaz with a one on one with Ramsdale in our box.
Saka curled a shot over from outside the box, Liverpool made two more changes bringing on a couple of youngsters for Elliott and Jones, before Ramsdale made an outstanding save to deny Diaz. From the resulting corner, Jota outjumped Saliba to head off the bar, and Nunez whacked a shot wide.
After Odegaard was penalsed for a foul deep in our half, Liverpool took the lead when Alexander-Arnold’s free kick was headed into his own net by Kiwior. 0-1.
Arteta sent on Eddie Nketiah for Jorginho as we looked to get back into it, and with three minutes to go put on Smith Rowe and Trossard for Havertz and Kiwior. Nunez headed an Odegaard free kick just wide of his own post, a couple of corners came to nothing, and at the death Liverpool secured the win when Diaz fired into the top corner after we committed men forward and they broke upfield. 0-2.
That made it a third successive defeat and leaves Mikel Arteta with plenty to do during the two week break.
Typical. Another year of exiting the domestic cups early. Probably another season of nothingness.
And oh, this treatment of ESR is starting to get really irritating.
Esr didn’t look that up for it once he got on , standing off Their player in the corner , jogging back ..compared to Martinelli energy
What an irony. Nelson, Oodegard, Havertz (3): we should have s scored 5 before half time but ironically Kiwior scored against the run of play. The goal was unfortunate, it was the failure to score which is troubling. I didn’t feel the pain anymore with these defeats.
Pool didn’t score against the run of play. They were taking over as we ran out of steam in the second half again.
It’s really flabbergasting how we were on top of the league just a few games ago, and now we look so average and easily beatable. It’s all well saying you want goals across the whole team, but when nobody is scoring then we are screwed. Sign a proper goal machine, otherwise at this rate we’ll struggle to even qualify for the CL this year.
Why are we easily beatable when it took an own goal for Liverpool to score?
Because lately we concede goals (including this own goal) and just don’t score any…simple maths
Let’s not forget their best two players were out.
Actually one.
Let’s not forget Partey, Timber, Tomi, Vieira, Zinchenko and Jesus were out too.
Zinchenko being out is probably a bonus, given his recent form!
Yeah, we have been fantastic against Fulham without him. It was absolutely clear to see that he was the problem in the other games.
Exactly, we need a proper centre forward
Or a competent manager.
Or a marginally better manager will do.
Arteta can sit on the bench, 2nd row
Arsenal, put the ball inside the net. That’s what counts!
Harvetz is too slow to take shots, his reaction time at this level is not good
It’s entirely a confidence thing – you can almost see the cogs spinning in his brain as he second guesses himself when he’s in a shooting position.
That wasn’t against the run of play, Liverpool were dominant at that point. But yeah, you don’t score you won’t win.
We had almost dozen chances and couldn’t score. The Scouse had a handful and scored two. Therein lies the difference.
He only had three minutes to “get into it”
I’ve seen Havertz do this for a majority of a handful of games and stay on the pitch and continue to get selected.
Yeah, but at least Havertz works his socks off when on the field. Even if I really like ESR – I hardly remember a game when he had at least 2 tackles in 90 minutes.
ESR never gets the chance to play 90 minutes
That’s because he was out injured towards the end of the 2021/22 season, a season where he got 10 goals I think and didn’t return until the middle of the 2022/23 season. Since his return from injury he has hardly gotten a look at from Arteta. He can’t build his fitness or any real confidence that way.
The fact is Arsenal need goals – and ESR can provide them. As an Arsenal fan, I really want Havertz to work out, but his shots yesterday were either too tame or delayed, allowing Liverpool to regroup. Again, it’s difficult to get an all round player – just look at Trent Alexander Arnold. His defending isn’t that good, but he keeps on playing because of the strengths he brings to the attacking third. I believe Rice, and our backline are sufficient to offset any defensive flaws that ESR may have. And who says ESR can’t track back? He may not… Read more »
Bollocks
If I was getting put into games with only 5 minutes to go all the time, I would be less than enthusiastic, too!
He came on in the 88th minute!
I find it really hard to get too exercised about the fa cup.
And it could have been so much worse. We could have drawn!
Palace at home next.
Time to get the season back on track.
COYG!!!
You really hate Arsenal, don´t you?
I just don’t really see the utility of going deep in the fa cup.
It would be nice to win a trophy but we’ve proved we can win the fa cup time and time again.
Maybe it’s time we set our sights a bit higher.
I know I’m in the minority but I don’t think we became a crap team overnight and I still have huge ambitions for this season.
Feel free to disagree. That’s just my opinion.
You don’t ? It was only comp we stood any chance of winning. We are fighting 4th and will exit CL soon enough
This recency bias on display is really quite incredible. I thought our fanbase was over this.
We’ve dicked all over every team we’ve played this season, bar a really subpar performance at Craven Cottage.
Get a grip guys. The catastrophising is frankly embarrassing and this side and this manager deserve better from us.
“We’ve dicked all over every team we’ve played this season”. ? Not really sure about that assessment. Compared to this time last season we are about 13 points worse off. That the real pointer to where we are.
I agree Johnny. We have a thin tired squad but we are still in the hunt for league and ucl. Give the players a rest, bit of a reset and come back refreshed for second half of season. We still have plenty of games to play not need fa cup as well
I don’t blame him after that.
It will get worse
Good lord man, we’re back in the knockout stages of the UCL for the first time since 2017 and are just 5 points off the top of the league after a rough patch with a GD of +17. The sky is not falling.
No the sky is not falling, it’s the wheels coming off.
This was the third round of the FA cup against the best team in the league, who by the way we drew at Anfield a couple weeks ago. We’re in a bit of bad run of form but get some perspective man.
Fans wouldn’t get so frustrated if we hadn’t been making the same mistakes every week, many or most of which have resulted from Arteta’s decisions. Saka has been run into the ground and has become ineffective. Havertz was completely clueless today and clearly hasn’t got strikers instincts, so why did we pay £65m for him? Odegaard is doing his best but even he has stopped (or been told to stop) taking shots. Jesus tells us goals aren’t his thing. So, when the manager has effectively said that we won’t be buying a striker in January who is going to get… Read more »
Unpopular opinion but if the manager doesn’t have faith in ESR then he may as well get £30-40 million for him. Same with Eddie and a couple more that don’t seem to interest him.
We need a goal scorer and a couple of full backs one is enough for now as priority signings.
I am not saying this because we are now in a rut, but Arteta just seems to ONLY trust a handful of players every time. Even if we sell now and bring in new recruits, there will be a group of players he doesn’t use as much, while running some others into the ground.
Don’t mean to compare, but Klopp and Pep know how to use their squads. It’s why they go deep into competitions and not run out of steam towards the end of the season. I just wish Arteta trusts his squad a bit more.
Klopp and Pep are several levels of tactical competency above Arteta. Anyone can see that.
They have 40 years of experience combined as managers vs. Arteta who have 4.
Sad but true
Judging by your comments, I’m gonna guess if you were a ‘pool fan you would’ve called for Klopp to be sacked after they finished 17 points behind us and outside the UCL places last season.
I’m sure if he had Manchester City’s squad he would probably rotate a lot.
Klopp didn’t get the best from his squad last season and this season has got a lot of his points from Mo Salah they were out played for large parts of today’s match but won through our poor finishing. Incidentally he keeps picking Mr Nunez who is even worse than our strikers at scoring goals.
At what point do we say “no, actually this player is too good to sell and it’s on you to get him back to what he was like before you took over”…? All we seem to do is sell off our once brightest prospects and replace them with inferior talent. If ESR gets shoved out then i question the whole project.
I also think we should sell Nketiah too, another unpopular comment to make?
Fair point – would hate to see ESR leave but what is the use of warming your bench with 120m quid’s worth (Eddie, ESR, Vieira, Cedric, etc) when they’re ineffectual (Eddie/Cedric) or you refuse to play them for any reasonable game time?
ESR will win it alll.. like when that guy scored 9 goas and is now in Newcastle..can we buy him back?
If he is so good why are teams not clambering to sign him?
I will tell you why because it is the same reason that he never starts for Arsenal.
Smith Rowe is not good enough.
A few good games a few years ago does not make him a good player.
Absolute bollocks. You can’t give him 5 mins every 4 games or whatever and then claim he’s had his chance to prove he should start…!
I forgot that the only time Arteta gets to see him play is on match day… Honestly I am getting fed up with fans thinking they know more than the coaching staff about our players. They see them on the training pitch day in, day out. They play games behind doors. They know every single one of their strengths and weaknesses. If ESR was running past Saliba and banging them away every day in training then he would get his chance.
shut the fvck up.. we rejected villas bid for him years back.. chelsea wanted a deal in the summer we rejected.. Newcastle have been dancing around too. stfu
And yet he doesn’t impress enough in training to get in ahead of Reiss Nelson. Why is that, do you think? Is Nelson that much better? Or maybe he busts his ass?
Personally, I think he’s brittle and mentally suspect, and tipped some minor entitlement issues by grabbing the 10 shirt.
We will be busy this transfer window, for a marginally better manager?
Trying to figure out the worst way to lose. I have three recent variations to pick from
It does seem like it’s all coming apart. What a drastic contrast from this time last year
there there, we were top of the premier league a week ago, and are qualified for last 16 of the champions league. sure thing we’ve been awful lately but all teams have rough patches. it takes more than a few defeats to destroy what we’ve been building for years.
Not for big parts of our fanbase. They are willing so sack the manager and sell half of the team after a couple of defeats.
Arsenal are like Natalie Portman, nice to look at but absolutely nothing up top.
We must improve & do some deals this window otherwise the season will get away from us.
Fucking hell, did you get Havertz to finish your analogy for you there?
Erm, she went to Harvard and speaks Japanese! But yes, we were crappy in the final third
Seems like you don’t have anything up top.
Clapping emoji.
What an elegant metaphor…🤢
Natalie Portman studied psychology at Harvard.
He wasn’t talking about her brains.
Doh!! It was so inelegant I missed it.
Still unnecessary and classless.
Exactly – which is the point I made below.
What an unnecessary analogy. Please do better than this kind of sexist nonsense.
Don’t know what’s worse. This comment or the uncomfortable amount of thumbs up it got.
Wrong person to use as an example, she’s very intelligent
Terrible analogy to use period, no matter what famous woman you care to name. Absolutely gross.
So fed up of this shit
It’s boring robot football. I’ve had enough too.
That is entirely on Arteta. Havertz was actively inhibiting our attack in the first half half & should never have come out for the 2nd, not that he offered much after the break.
All substitutions were made after the 80th minute. What possible fucking use is that?? There’s no time to affect anything and they’re actively working against the clock.
I really thought his game management would have improved by now.
For me, Havertz was great in everything but putting the ball into the back of the net. Which of course is a problem if you’re playing a striker.
We either seem to have a 9 that ties everything together but can’t score for shit or a solid finisher who we can’t get the ball to.
That is the problem with Jesus – who claims that scoring goals is not his speciality.
Honestly I still believe a fully fit Jesus is actually that player. Not *quite* as good a finisher as we’d like, sure, but much more capable on that front than he’s given credit for. But ‘fully fit’ are the operative words there. The problem is (and this is the same for a number of our players), he physically can’t do what Rice and Odegaard do and be at his peak twice in 7 days. In fact he’ll often end up breaking down altogether. We’ve got several key players who fall into that category, and for a team that wants to… Read more »
I know Havertz is very likeable & people want him to do well…but to use ‘great’ is bizarre to me. He worked really hard & made some good runs….but on the ball, he is just terrible. He takes way too long to make decisions & his passing is so, so poor, almost always underhit.
He hardly runs with the ball, his 1st instinct when he gets the ball is to pass back.
What was Havertz great at? I saw an average, safe performance – where he lacked any conviction in front of goal.
Havertz was fkn shit as usual. Arteta has single handedly blown up the great football we played last season by recruiting and playing this donkey every game.
Nope he was not great just say you like him and its fine.
Great at what exactly? Not putting the ball in the back of the net is the least of his problems! His first touch is atrocious, his passing is weak with no vision, he can’t dribble for shit and constantly loses the ball, and has no arial ability. What an extraordinary waste of time and money! I’m really sick of the excuses from the fan base. Call a spade a spade. This his fourth season in the premier league and he’s done fck all.
He is useless i dont know what exactly you see as “great in everything but putting the ball into the back of the net”
Yep. Drives me absolutely mad that he waits until we have actually lost a goal before affecting any changes when it’s clear for the previous 5-10 mins that the game has swung due to Klopp changes. Naive, stupid, arrogant, lack of options I just don’t know.
Harvetz plays in slow motion
Martinelli came on at 61 mins.
We play better, create more chances, inevitably lose the game.
We really, really, really need a striker. Not a winger. Not a defender. A striker.
while i agree with you, there’s no reason for the players we already have to not score. they blew it over the bar at every clear chance they had. new striker or not, that’s an issue we have to solve none the less
We need a manager, over 500million spent and we still want midfielder, striker, wing backs
Can someone explain me why the fuck Arteta didn’t substitute Havertz around the 70th minute? You need to make subs for fucks sake to revitalise the team…
The obvious substitution was Eddie for Havertz at half time. But out genius manager couldn’t see it.
Yeah right, what has Eddie done recently to deserve any kind of trust that he would change the game? Absolutely jack all, that’s what.
I would ask the same of Havertz & Martinelli
Eddie ain’t the guy. Kai created a few great chances and should have scored a few. Kai ain’t the guy but Eddie played 90 past week and did nada
Which put him on par with Saka (who scuffed everything he had a crack at) and the entire offense. We are easily defended as a team.
Stillman’s last column was spot on – the emphasis on attacking through the wide areas to avoid risk of counters has made us dull a defendable. I miss when we played with a knife in our teeth.
Let me caveat this by saying how much I love Declan Rice….we are missing Partey’s line breaking passes so much man, especially considering that Zinny is also out (although yes he also frustrates me in defense).
Eddie isn’t up to it. In the second half Saka was most guilty of missing chances, although Gabriel would need to explain why on earth he didn’t head the ball in from point blank range.
In a game like that full of chances, Eddie was more likely to score than Havertz
Kai created a few great chances for others. Is the strategy now to bring Eddie on in games where there are a lot of chances? I think that pretty much sums Eddie up
Really? Did Eddie even have a kick of the ball when he came on?? Pointless substitution
Arteta has his favourites and of you’re one of them, you can do no wrong. It’s as simple as that. And more importantly, for Havertz to lose favour now would be to admit that spending £65mil on some washed up, former “prodigy” with a terrible premiere league record was, *as everyone with eyes had predicted*, a bad idea. Mikel Arteta everyone.
Last 3 matches, over 60 shots 1 goal. Need to sell a few players and buy a goal scorer.
63 shots exactly. I checked.
Yeah, the athletic reported 63 shots and 1 goal since Xmas. Then I see us linked with a defender…
That is absolutely shocking, it must be some kind of record.
Arteta has been taught some footballing lessons by Jurgen Klopp with a weakened Liverpool team!
Why bother to bring ESR in?
Disappointing. Conversion remains an issue.
Trent scraping crumbs off his back from all the times Martinelli had him on toast. Always disappointed with how late on in the game ESR is introduced.
And then what did Martinelli do with the ball?
Also bored of EVERY comment going to awaiting approval. Please remove me from that list for no reason
I also seem to be on the naughty step, no idea why.
That was awful.
It was
Just got beat by little Bobby Bradley and Timmy Donuts from the Liverpool youth team
and I’m not happy about it.
Also, we have fully transformed into 2010 arsenal. Death by extra touches, eye of the needle passes and sh*t finishing. What is this voodoo madness!
But we have control and dominate the stats
The frustrating thing is that last season was a world away from this and the hiccup was too bad and we still ran city close. Arteta’s reaction to free flowing scoring football was to be more pragmatic, pass the other team out of the game and not give them the ball.
Yeah that worked out well.
I suspect it’s worse. Teams respect us more and take less risks against us, which I think is highlighting (since the World Cup) that our forwards aren’t actually as good as we think, or more specifically, we lack real “top” players who make the difference in key moments / periods.
Suddenly we’re 80s Arsenal again…fck me…
Last season neither L’pool nor Villa were in it. Teams around us have improved & we havn’t. If Chelsea, Man United & Spurs up their games & we don’t, it’ll be Europa league next season at best.
If you insist on playing a style where you want to effing dribble the ball into the goal (which is peak Wenger-era) then you might want to have Trossard at the false 9, with his no-backswing quick release and clinical finishing. In theory, at least. As if there is one single fix to this issue…
Whilst Arteta refuses to play our youngsters even in a Euro DEAD Rubber – says it all.
That was a Liverpool side with no VDV, Salah, and a half fit Macallister. They better look into bringing in a decent striker this month before our season gets even worse.
That was an Arsenal side without Timber, Partey, Tomiyasu, Zinchenko and Jesus.
We played well, confidence is not that high at the moment and that reflects on our finishing. Lost due to a very unlucky own goal.
No need to act like spoiled brats everything we lose a game, regardless how it happened.
Dude we are nowhere near the level we were at last year…
We were on course to top the points of the invincibles (our best ever PL season) at that point last year. Have you thought we will walk this league and get 100+ points this year? We almost had no injuries in the first half of last season and almost all our players had immense confidence, due to the run we were on. Of course it looks different this time around. It’s just common sense.
Easy to see who Salah etc would replace in the liverpool team. Other than Kiwior, who else are you taking off in Arsenal?
Partey for Jorginho, Zinchenko or Tomiyasu for Kiwior, Timber for White, Jesus for Havertz.
Shane as we played well. Too many players not scoring. They send on jota and we send on nketia. You could see the difference it made. Jota was a threat. We won’t sign anyone in this window as we don’t have the money and we owe Brentford £30 million for Raya. Ramsdale had a good game and then showed his glaring weakness in caught in no man’s land for the first goal. If you’re gonna come you have to get there. If he stays it comes straight at him.
We have money but we have to spend according to the financial rules and that‘s the problem.
We didn‘t owe Brentford 30 mio because we didn’t have them last summer but because we would have been in trouble if we had spend them.
Then sell Martinelli for alot of money and buy someone with end product. Love the guy but he exhausts me. Came on, beat his man with fabulous skill and then passed it straight to a Liverpool player.. Then did the same thing again and hit first man from the resulting corner. This is what he does…and it’s frustrating he never seems to improve.
Yeah, let’s sell a player who has been immense for us over the last 3 seasons because now, still at the age of 22, he has a difficult spell. Sounds like a fantastic plan.
If I had the choice between selling Martinelli and buying a top striker like Osimhen I would take Osimhen every time. Martinelli has no end product this season. Got his new contract just like Walcott all those years ago and lost all those qualities that made him so good.
To compare Martinelli, probably the hardest working forward I’ve seen at Arsenal, to Walcott, who was absolutely anonymous in a lot of games, and then blame it on his new contract, is just stupid. And Osimhen dropped off this season compared to last exactly the same as Gabi did. Got 7 goals domestically, 2 more than Eddie in a much weaker league and 1 in the CL. Had one great season when Napoli was absolutely flying. If he would be able to do that in the PL is a completely different matter. To spend 100+ mio an him would be… Read more »
errr 21 goals in 85 appearances is hardly immense is it? Decent…but not immense. Look…if our FFP position is accurately reported, either we sell a player everyone likes and buy someone who scores goals, or we have fuck all chance of winning anything this season (and quite possibly finishing outside the CL places). It really is that simple. Either you are ok with that or your red tinted glasses shields you from the fact we have one of the most inefficient attacks in the league with our top 3 scorers sharing 23 goals (compared to City = 43 goals, Liverpool… Read more »
37 goals, 22 assists for us. 60 goal involvements at the age of 22 is pretty immense for a winger. And it‘s not only about goals. He gives a lot more to this team than that.
And last season Saka, Martinelli and Jesus scored 40 goals in the PL, although Jesus missed big parts due to his injury, which proves they are capable, they’re just having a bad season so far. But that’s no reason to act like a prick and want sell them straight away.
A big issue for Arteta was that the squad he inherited was overloaded with overpaid duds with no sell on value, that needed replacing fast. If you can’t raise funds from sales FFP is going to restrict buying power over time. Yes, £60m may turn out to have been a mistake for Kai but when was the last time AFC got more than £30m for a player?
Exactly, the reasons why we have these financial restrictions have nothing to do with Arteta or Edu. They had to pay off a lot of useless players and spend big on a lot of new ones to get this team back in the CL and now need a couple of seasons there to be able to spend big again.
Well, it was his own defender who scored a free header – how could he foresee that? he would have got the ball otherwise
True, he figured Kiwior was playing for his side
Genuine question : what did Ramsdale do for that goal that was worse than what Raya did for the header we conceded v Luton, that makes it a glaring weakness for Ramsdale ?
It’s an area that like it not Raya is better coming for and claiming crosses. Ramsdale is not good in this area. That’s why I call it a glaring weakness.
Like at Newcastle, you mean?
So, worse than Raya was at Luton ? (from a corner floated in, as opposed to a lethal delivery at pace from TAA today)
Seriously?! Raya’s glaring weakness is exactly coming for and getting lobbed on crosses!
You are very emotionally led and I get that. For some reason I’m not after today’s game. I thought we played well and should have won the game. Check the stats. Personally I think Ramsdale better shot stopper and Raya better at crosses. I also think Raya signing May have caused some division in squad
Same fkn weakness as Raya then?
Odegaard kept not shooting and passing off to Kia. Shoot the ball man
Klopp worked out what was wrong with pool and made changes. Mid game MA can’t Dort out his socks to save his life
Sort out
Arteta can’t teach them how to strike a ball mid game.
Once read a quote it’s manager’s job to get the team into the last 3rd and then it’s up to players to get the ball into the back of the net.
We got any idea how Klopp managed to help win that game purely by his managerial wizardry in identifying a problem communicating the answer then watching his already drilled players carry out his instructions ? Arteta NEVER changes the way we play EVER ! That’s not good management or effective coaching imho !
Where was the quote…. The Beano? If a team has stopped being able to score goals, it’s the manager’s job to train the players better and introduce better tactics. This shambles is entirely on the manager.
If havertz as our main striker is the answer then wtf is the question. This stinks of desperation. Striker so badly needed it’s painful now
Who could call this game? Havertz up front. No ESR. The project is over. Arsenal fans deserve a masterplan. This manager has to go today. Why play Kiwor at left back when we have a better player in Saka who can play there. Enough is enough. This was so predictable as well as our disposal in the Champions League. Arteta is out of his depth
If Arteta is out of his depth than you have drowned.
All you losers loving defeats? Where has ambition gone in this incredibly stupid fan base? Do you you really accept what we witnessed today? We have losing mentality and fans that don’t remember what it takes to be invincible. Arteta must go now
I’m sure your well thought out approach of calling the arsenal fan base incredibly stupid will go down well. Calling for Arteta out as well. You’re a true fan.
Just realistic my friend and have some faith in us being a big club and with the right manager we can be that one day. Sick to death here people chatting crap
Fair enough
Grow up you twat
This is my synopsis. MA got lucky last year. We won and played well because our players Over performed and won DESPITE bad rotation and tactics..this year with the added competitions the rotation dilemma is apparent and our players are fatigued and underperforming. Last year was a fluke and this is the real MA.
You sound like you are celebrating heavily at the moment …
Quite the opposite
He’s feeling like most realistic Arsenal fans do. We kept Wenger as manager at least 10 years too long, largely because he’d given us success beyond our wildest dreams. Arteta has achieved zilch and the team is worse than last year after another £200m spend. The club needs to become ruthless and cut its losses now. Sack him.
‘success beyond our wildest dreams’? come on now. Wenger gave us some incredible years, but he won the league 3 times in 22 years. That’s not ‘success beyond our wildest dreams’ – I have wilder dreams of success than that 😂
i do think we were lucky last season, and that we’re being unlucky this one. but we fought for the title last season and are fighting for it this season as well. before he arrived we were 8th. that’s the real MA, there’s nothing to discuss. i get the feeling we could win the champions league and you’d still think we won it despite of him and not because of him.
I’ll gladly eat my own words, MA has earned some time but his lack of growth on the tactical and rotational side is really worrying.
At least we were better today. Fulham performance was shocking & despite what a lot on here keep saying, West Ham was really bad too.
Take the positives & move on.
This was shambolic. Arteta please go now
It really wasn’t. Arteta got a lot wrong today no doubt, but come on. Fulham was shambolic. This was clearly not.
Where are Arsenal in the draw for the next round? Wake up my friend stop being a fan of defeats?
Today was in the players not Arteta
It was on Arteta because he prefers his team to play tika taka football without a proper striker. We’d have walked the past three games with a Salah or even a Jota in the side. But no, we have to do it Arteta’s way… and so we fail…. and fail….and fail…and fail.
Please explain what positives it’s possible to take from losing 0-2 at home.
Painful.
And that fucking kit can fuck right off.
Nah man, come on, the kit represents something really important. REALLY important. We can’t score regardless of the kit.
Where was I dissing the campaign?
That was a stupid comment. Try to learn why we played in white kit before saying something really stupid
Seriously, everyone downvoting this needs to speak to the families of victims of knife crime. Get some fucking perspective.
If you had read my comment on the arseblog news item announcing that we were wearing knife in support of the No Red campaign, you’ll know that it – said campaign – had my full backing.
You’ll also know that I hate us playing in an all white kit, however, because it resembles that lot up the road.
Stupid is a stupid does mate.
For knife read white.
NO END PRODUCT
Saka was dreadful
Martenelli same story when he came on. Carves up defenders then looks lost
Reese always looks sloppy and off balance
Martin O needs to finish that early chance
Kai created a lot but can’t finish.
On and on and on and on
Off with their heads!!
oh also.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNFzfwLM72c
Good cause asides, can we f’n bin that white kit off now
No.
Fucking Groundhog Day
I’m starting to think all this Raya slander/Ramsdale glazing is racially motivated. Rammers is an absolute, long ball hoofing shitcan with an ego the size of Saliba’s third leg.
I’ll say it because I’m a bit annoyed after the game, you’re a fucking moron and you should fuck off to whatever hole you emerged from to make your stupid comment.
He is a Spurs fan for sure
Stop that bullshit.
How the fuck is this comment not moderated?
The commenter now is
Also that Martenelli attempt at defending on the second goal was just embarrassing
Taking a winter break from Arsenal as well because the clamour for transfers is going to be unbearable.
I’m starting to think Zinchenko never was the issue, nor is the defrnce in general. Saka, Martinelli, and Jesus (not today obvly) have been so utterly poor in front of goal. A striker is needed, sell one of Martinelli/Jesus if need be to fund it because we clearly need ruthlessness.
Odegaard stopped shooting and didn’t take shots and passed off to Kia. Shoot the ball man.
Saka and odegaard . Playing like Sanchez and ozil only passing to each other .
Arteta tactics created 15 great chances against one of top the teams in premier League. It’s on the players to finish the chances . All strikers at fault in my opinion today
Nelson , Kia , saka, Martin
I thought we stopped dealing with Kia ffs
I have noticed Saka and Odegaard always ignore Ben white’s overlapping runs.
Sure can’t blame Zinchenko for this or the Fulham game.
Actually at a stage now where I feel like we’ll concede from literally any set piece
It looks like we’re playing a training game in front of goal.
We need killers. We don’t have any killers. Jota is a stone cold killer. Salah the same.
I said exactly the same on here in July, and got downvoted to hell.
Complete dogshit. A fantastic example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
We should have had the game won by half time but BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE A STRIKER we fluffed everything.
Then we conceded an OG because WE CAN’T DEFEND SET PIECES.
We are a joke right now! Season over!!
ARTETA OUT TONIGHT!!!!
Yeah and date you point out that Havertz was an unnecessary waste of money (nothing personal) and it should have been spent on a goal scorer, blinkered Arteta supporters will thumb the crap out of that comment.
Yawn.
Fatgooner you speak with some reason and passion for the club..There are too many fans who do not have elite mentality here and will thumb you down. What happened today was so predictable. Liverpool did not play well today. The chances were there but we did not take them and we wait and wait for Arteta to do anything. The man is out of his depth and has to go. He is a paperweight.
Arteta is not rubbish – he’s a just nearly man. He’s at about the same level as his ex-manager, David Moyes. Arteta is good enough to run a club like Wolves or West Ham, but he is not an elite manager. The Arsenal job is too big for him. Personally, I appreciate what he’s done for us, getting us back into the top-four. But he can’t take us any further. He needs to go. We need someone bigger to manage the club now: someone who can fix the glaring problems that we have right now. Our squad needs to be… Read more »
There comes a point where “we played well but didn’t get the win” stops becoming the exception.
Is it just me or is Martinelli becoming a one-trick-pony? If I were Nketiah, or anyone playing down the middle, I’d get very frustrated to never get an early ball through. Taking so much time to get the ball through to the forwards allows the opposing defence to set up. And Martinelli does the same every time.
I don’t think Nketiah is the answer, but the way we play just doesn’t help him at all.
What a stupid decision to get Raya on loan when we should have got a striker. When you’ve got a great goalie, which he showed again today, why kick him out and lose your other options.
I’ve been saying that for months. Add to that the money we spent on Havertz as we could have got a decent striker in.
Lol cause we could have got a fantastic striker with what we’re paying to loan Raya.
Fuck!
Let the excuses commence.
I think Arteta has probably peaked. I mean we are a proper comedy show aren’t we? Every time we got in a scoring position (which was many), all I could think was how is he going to fuck this up. And we invented new ways. Every.single.time. It was actually quite funny. Also, who else was guessing which minute we’d get sucker punched? I guessed 87…which was close. As obvious as the sun rising. The only surprise was that it wasn’t Jota. Completely deserved to lose that and it was so fucking inevitable. Could have been there until midnight without a… Read more »
Buy a striker
It’s pretty obvious that we need to buy a good striker in this January transfer window. When you are playing against this Liverpool team and you are not taking the plethora of chances coming your way, then you get punished in the end. Nelson lacks confidence or conviction to stake a claim to the starting beth. Lad had glaring chances to put us ahead but fluffed his line. Saka is just not clicking at the moment. Too predictable in his shots at goal. And ooh, the white jersey looks like it’s a cursed one. Remember the last time we worn… Read more »
Totally agree about the shirt. It may be a worthy cause (although it doesn’t seem to be having any effect on London’s knife crime) but it seems to suck the life out of the team. Never again please.
Saka is currently locked up in boring robot football tactics.
What a waste of space this Arsenal team. Can create but cannot finish..looking for a place between 6 a 8 without a trophy..
Anyone else amazed at the shit which comes out of Shearers mouth. I know I should be used to it by now but during the first half he kept saying we should be AT LEAST 4 or 5 goals up. This is not how football works! And then despite us not being AT LEAST 4 or 5 goals up he gives man of the match to a Liverpool defender! We were so much better than the last couple of games, yes the lack of goals is clearly a concern but out of this game and the home game against them… Read more »
This season is a write-off. The sooner we accept it the better. We’re basically battling for 3rd or 4th place. Arteta’s comment about last season’s offensive output being a one off says a lot. Maybe last season was a fluke. It Hurst badly when pundits are right about Arsenal’s limitations. Sad
We need Giroud
What has happened to Saka?? He is delivering subpar performances for some weeks now. And we don’t have any competition for his spot.
But the more than a RW, we need a proper striker this window to go for the title! We can still turn this around!
It’s because you are expecting a RW to deliver CF numbers. He needs a striker to work off
He needs a rest
Was that Arteta’s pitch to KSI to convince them to by a Striker ?
Thought we played well and dominated long spells against a v good team. Unlucky again with fine margins in the boxes. I’m much happier than 3 years ago when I’d be hiding behind the sofa whenever we played Liverpool and we always got the expected spanking.
But we still got a spanking today, so why on earth are you happier? And we’ve spent north of £400m over the past couple of years. Where’s the progress?
On the game I was watching we lost on fine margins. We had a low X-spank.
Arteta OUT with his Harvertz🤢