Wenger calls for perspective

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Arsene Wenger has urged fans not to put extra pressure on his team after Arsenal were subjected to boos at the final whistle of the 1-1 draw with New York Red Bulls.

Fan frustration was evident as the Gunners let slip another lead but given the fact it was a pre-season fixture the manager is looking for more understanding from fans.

Speaking after the game, Wenger was asked if the booing frustrated him.

“Well, you have to take that into perspective”, he said. “People want always to win, that I can understand, but I don’t think we need to put extra pressure on us at the moment.

“The most important is to prepare and take the pressure on when the result really matters”.

Arsenal’s final pre-season game takes place away from home next Saturday against Benfica, before the season kicks off against Newcastle on August 13th.

See Wenger’s press conference on Arsenal Player

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Liveinhope
Liveinhope

Were the fans booing the team or the manager/board and the weakening of the team over the last six years.

Let’s get that in perspective.

Biff Baxter
Biff Baxter

We should ask Mata and whoever else we’re trying to sign. They were watching yesterday; weighing up their options.

Arsetroll
Arsetroll

The crowd were boing the ref for refusing Henry to play the last 5 for Arsenal. They were not boing the team according to a friend of mine who was there.

TuesdayClubAssemble!
TuesdayClubAssemble!

You do realise that just because 60,000 people sit together in a stadium, it doesn’t mean that they develop a shared conscience to became one sentient being. I was there and i’m pretty certain they were booing the team, whilst i was trying to explain to two of my aussie guests (their first footy game) why are fans were so pissed off about losing a friendly. I wasn’t one of the many boo boys, and i felt completely embarrassed.

wandarah
wandarah

What a fun season it’s going to be!

Kevabc1
Kevabc1

I totally agree with this one lol

Highbury_Squirrel
Highbury_Squirrel

Problem is fans have run out of patience, me included. It feels like we’ve been waiting for ages for a positive end to the frustration of the way the season collapsed. Instead of that we get just more frustration. Frustration of not signing that new defender we clearly need, frustration of all the talk of two of our best players leaving and now frustration that we’ve led a lead slip twice in two days! Sorry Wenger, you’ve no room for errors or perspective at the mo. 
Didnt watch today, instead I went to an 80th birthday party. Think I made the right choice. 

RedandDread
RedandDread

Ok, last season was a fiasco at the end but to carry over the angst and bitterness into a new season does no good to anyone, including yourself. Fans like you are like spoiled brats that can’t get a new toy. Your team has some very important matches coming up and the team will need our support.

JohnDale
JohnDale

But carrying over the same excuses from last year (and all the previous years) is acceptable, right?

Simon Frizzell
Simon Frizzell

No, the problem is it’s fucking Groundhog Season.

sacktheboss/board
sacktheboss/board

wenger is a liar he always changes what he says never tells people directly that he wants to sign players etc just read his comments no fucking targets he says !! just sign someone you cunt you have got money , more bullshit coming out your mouth , song frimp chamack and gervinho mighe be out in january fabregas and nas are leaving so realistically we need 4 signings in key positions namely defence

wandarah
wandarah

I feel convinced after reading your compelling argument.

Jasonisimo
Jasonisimo

. <— that's called a period. Learn how to use them.

RedandDread
RedandDread

Listen to yourself mate-you sound like you need a straight jacket. Relax and enjoy your football, it’s an new season. When did it become so important that the only thing is to win-I really cannot imagine what football would be like if all football fans supported their team in the way that many (support) ours.. At least we figure to be challenging.

TuesdayClubAssemble!
TuesdayClubAssemble!

I totally agree. NO ONE loves the Arsenal any more than me, but as long as they challenge (which they do EVERY SEASON) that is all any fan can realistically ask of their team!

Muhyi
Muhyi

The problem with the current squad is the manager that doesn’t know the right substitution to make. Look at the two games critically, the team collapsed after the substitutions. Wake up Mr Arsene.

Junichi
Junichi

Wow, it was friendly games, games made to give minutes to the players, main reason why you can make 6 substitution. In a EPL game, if Wilshere got injured, and Nasri is on the bench, then I don’t thikn Benik Afobe would step on the field. Just try to think people !

Savage is a Dave
Savage is a Dave

Another apologist with yet another excuse. Cant wait for your next gem.

just another overseas gunner
just another overseas gunner

woah. it’s a friendly dude. everyone gets game time over the two days, that’s it.

Jasonisimo
Jasonisimo

Complaining about the substitutions in a preseason friendly? Really? Really?!? Has it come to this, Arsenal fans? F*cking pathetic.

RedandDread
RedandDread

would have to agree mate……..a lot of us Gooners have gone over the deep end. Lets hope it doesn’t all end in tears for the club.

arseinamsterdam
arseinamsterdam

some arsenal fans are realy starting to tire me out.
i’m wondering where this train load of cuntish,silverware addicted little manuspurswhores have come from.
lets buy messi,samba,lampard and terry. sack wenger and everyone related to the club.throw away all the trophies we have won in the last 14 years and boo and cry every time reality isn’t 100% like the infantile fantasies you choke on while spouting all this skysports/talksport dreamworld bs that you take as gospal……. i’m of to the bookies to bet on arsenal having the best away record in the league,and losing every game at home.

Graham

Nice one mate, couldn’t agree more!

Oko
Oko

Again we just can’t kill teams off Arsene knows r problems within our defense.Why does it take such a long time to buy players Cahill&jagilika shape up or ship out Arsene?

Biff Baxter
Biff Baxter

We attract the dumbest fans in the league. Seriously.

Michael
Michael

No fuck that. No other fan has gone through what we have gone through for six straight seasons. Other clubs go up or down. We stay the same. EXACTLY the same.

I wouldn’t boo if we were mid-table hopefuls, trying to break into the Champions League spots.

I wouldn’t boo if we were relegation fodder.

I do however, get very frustrated that we have learnt nothing in six seasons. Six whole seasons. It’s ridiculous to say, but it would do Arsenal fans’ a lot of good if we either crumpled completely and started rebuilding again (Liverpool), or start striving for success for REAL (Utd, Chelsea). Not get stuck in the same continuous, monotonous loop over and over again.

Nick
Nick

I see the fans are in mid-season form, lacking any sort of bottle, loyalty, or good old English commitment and mental strength. Are they all French surrender monkeys?

Arsenal fans are turning the Emirates into an away-field advantage for 19 EPL teams. Well done, lads!

DownToEarthGooner
DownToEarthGooner

Spot on.

Jasonisimo
Jasonisimo

Thank you!

Biff Baxter
Biff Baxter

Well said. Our support is utterly gutless at the moment.

arseinamsterdam
arseinamsterdam

some arsenal fans are realy starting to tire me out.
i’m wondering where this train load of cuntish,silverware addicted little manuspurswhores have come from.
lets buy messi,samba,lampard and terry. sack wenger and everyone related to the club.throw away all the trophies we have won in the last 14 years and boo and cry every time reality isn’t 100% like the infantile fantasies you choke on while spouting all this skysports/talksport dreamworld bs that you take as gospal……. i’m of to the bookies to bet on arsenal having the best away record in the league,and losing every game at home.some arsenal fans are realy starting to tire me out.
i’m wondering where this train load of cuntish,silverware addicted little manuspurswhores have come from.
lets buy messi,samba,lampard and terry. sack wenger and everyone related to the club.throw away all the trophies we have won in the last 14 years and boo and cry every time reality isn’t 100% like the infantile fantasies you choke on while spouting all this skysports/talksport dreamworld bs that you take as gospal……. i’m of to the bookies to bet on arsenal having the best away record in the league,and losing every game at home.

Kevvy
Kevvy

Arsene Wenger is turning the Emirates into an away field by doing nothing to improve the team! If the atmosphere is bad, do something to change it. Dont blame the and for being disappointed, blame the Manager for putting out a bad team!

Fats
Fats

Cock off Arsene you liar

Ed
Ed

No offence lad but without Wenger the club would never had players like Henry and Fabregas !!!

Baz
Baz

@nick, your a mug mate. If your one of the MINORITY who still watches the game though the ‘in arsene we trust’ glasses, then I pity you. It is clear to see that this team just isnt good enough. We have potential, yes, but in only a small area of the team. Players like Djourou, Squillaci, Chamakh are just not good enough for the competitive PL that we have today. If you roll back 10 or so years ago, then yes maybe. Teams were ‘scared’ to play arsenal and there was only 2 real title contenders. Next season, theres a distinct possibility that there could be up to 5 teams (6, if you really want to count us aswell). You look at chelseas squad, you look at man u’s squad, you look at city’s squad, and then you look at our squad. Theres no other way at looking at it. Our 1st team might be comparable, but with our track record with injuries, how many of those 1st team will actually play 90-100% of the season?

Wenger WAS a great manager, but he has fallen out of reality and his stubborness is what is holding this club back. However getting rid of him is not the answer. I say this because, once he’s gone, it’ll be very difficult for us to attract a top manager, because we wont be able to offer the one thing that all top managers wont, transfer funds!

Face it, arsenal has got big problems, and cesc and nasri is just the tip of the iceberg!

Real Talk
Real Talk

Spot on Baz. Fans calling other fans gutless because they want to express their annoyance at the whole situation are embarrassing. Ask any other top club’s fans if they would tolerate season ticket price hikes, a lack of investment with regards to playing personnel for a sustained period and glaringly obvious tactical mistakes not being addressed time after time.

I have supported Wenger through thick and thin but enough is enough. He is allowed a God like status at the club which has made him complacent and allowed this stubborn stance of his to be maintained. Wenger thinks that he cannot be questioned and to question him is even deemed disrespectful by some quarters of our fans it’s pathetic! If we end up playing on Channel 5 this season do not be surprised.

Real Talk
Real Talk

Be it said I don’t agree with booing as it is unhelpful especially at this stage. However I dont condemn the fans that did. I really don’t see how frustrations can be aired without the Board and the manager taking notice. Numerous fans have written directly to the club to bno avail, the Arsenal hierachy do not read blogs or social networking sites so what else can people do?

James
James

The boos were for you Wenger, you arrogant prick.

Dobbi
Dobbi

Hate to say it but Arsenal fans are the worst around. Shameful even.

Graham

Agreed

baz
baz

@dobbi, your saying then that if Man U hadnt won anything for 6 years, there fans wouldn’t get frustrated and want to show it? your telling me that if chelsea were potless for 6 years they wouldn’t boo there players off? Yes, its a pre-season game, yes its meaningless, but the signs are there that the team just hasnt learn from there mistakes! Scezney said in an interview, they had worked on defending set players in training, were is that evidence? We were woeful in defence in what has to be said, a sh#t red bull team and an even sh#tter boca juniors. It doesnt full you with confidence seeing that, even though its just a friendly.

Besides, fans have paid good money to see those games, and they pay for the right to vent their frustration.

Hahaha
Hahaha

Don’t remember us conceding a goal from a set piece. Are you sure you were watching or are you just making shit up to suit your argument?

baz
baz

yes i know we didnt concede through a set piece but if you actually look at the way we defended the equaliser, you will see that we had numerous chances to clear the danger yet we didnt. We cant defend to save our lives. Im just sorry you cant see that.

Joeos
Joeos

I was sickened by the moronic booing at the end of todays game. Clearly the substitutions would have been different if it had been a game in one of the four competitions. If these people are not prepared to support the team they should stop attending and take themselves off to the Lane or the Bridge. They will not be missed. Instead of SSFM, STFU, you contribute nothing to the club.

Savage is a Dave
Savage is a Dave

Do us a favour. When Arsene leaves go with him. Ta

ol
ol

Until then, you moaning twats need to go on loan to man €£t¥.

komododragon
komododragon

@Baz I think you’re missing the point fella. Nick didn’t say anything about whether Wenger is still good or bad or whether we have the right players or note.

He’s talking about the one thing that will definetly destroy us as a top club. The one thing all the bloggers and keyboard terrorist don’t seem to get or want to write about.

By all means criticise the manager or players if you must but the muppets that booed at an effing pre- season friendly have made us a laughing stock. Every other fan at every other PL team knows they can come to the emirates and get at us. They won’t need to have a go at our lads because the home support will do it for them.

Like last year the team will do better away from home cause the SUPPORT is so much better.

Be frustrated, be angry, be worried if you must but booing the team BEFORE the season has even started…c’mon seriously?

I just hope the reason is because most true gooners are still on hols or can’t justify splashing out for emirates cup as well as season tickets/memberships etc and once the season starts the real support will be back.

And no, I don’t own a pair of ‘in arsene we trust’ glasses.

baz
baz

so your telling me that if we go on for the next 6 years, hanging onto the coat tails of Man U and Chelsea, scraping into the CL spot by the skin of our teeth, defending like a bunch of girls scared of a little ball, that everything is rosey in the land of arsenal? i’m not one of the fans who say ‘sack wenger’ because i dont believe that is the answer. what a lot of fans don’t realise is how much wenger has actually done for the club. we were languishing in no mans land before wenger came in and we have so much to thank him for. but he doesnt seem to see the simple problem that we have. we need a strong backbone at the club and players who are not afraid to ruffle a few feathers. we have potential, but we are let down by a few substandard players who just arent good enough for the club and that is what a lot of fans are frustrated about.

booing may not be the answer, yes its negative, and yes it doesnt help in anyway, but you have to admit it frustrating watch arsenal play sometimes. all that fancy play, pocession, one touch killer passes, but just let down by a few elementary mistakes.

komododragon
komododragon

Course it’s frustrating – didn’t say it wasn’t.

And I don’t know what I’d do if we went another 6 years without winning anything but unless we’re dropping down divisions and not attempting to fix things then I think I’ll still be supporting the team.

A lot of what you say makes sense – it’s the same discussions being had by Arsenal supporters everywhere. But this is about booing the team in a pre season friendly.

It doesn’t help the team, it doesn’t help the crowd, it doesn’t do ANYTHING positive for Arsenal FC. The only people it helps is the opposition, the opposition’s support and journalists

sean
sean

i booed, i’ll tell you as for why…. Throughout the whole game we played high up the field, kept the ball (moderately) well away from our goal. Had shot after shot after shot at thier goal. Scored, yes! Then 7 mins or so from time they get into our half. All of us at the clock end were screaming to get rid me it. But no goal.

Mean Lean

Is that the reason for booing?

Mean Lean

Personally I do not see the point in booing whatsoever. It is a friendly, the season hasn’t even began yet, players are still getting to full match fitness and Wenger hasn’t played a settled side yet. While we are all frustrated when we do not win games we should do and I guess to some, booing makes people feel better after the game, I cannot see how this helps the atmosphere of the team and the club. The media already love jumping all over us so this is just more fuel to mugs like Robbie Savage.

Our home support is supposed to be the 12th man, well if we start booing in pre season before the actual football starts then we may as well change the game to the 10th man.

Frustrated, angry, fed up or whatever, it is self defeating and ridiculous to boo at the end of a pre season game. Are we setting a president for every home game now? Pick up three points and we can find something else to grumble about but anything less than three points is worth a good old boo. I mean we did it in pre season so why not for every game that counts.

This is only my view but I see it like this. If you want the team to do well and improve then don’t boo. If you want a bad atmosphere around the ground and for the team to look shaky then boo. Simple.

Jamie
Jamie

The booing was terrible…..let’s at least wait till January 😉

Pete
Pete

Some of the comments on here are beyond belief. If Wenger had gone one year without a trophy and people booed, that would be sick. Maybe even 2 or 3 years, but it’s been 6 years!! They’re not booing because of one bad match, it’s an accumulation of negatives that has resulted in this sour attitude towards the manager. And to be honest, if he does not buy what’s required he deserves every boo he gets. Having said that, I think the fans should be a bit more intelligent and sing songs like “Wenger out” or “spend some fucking money”, that would be better than Wenger passing off boos as if they’re nothing to do with his woeful performance as manager.

Arsetroll
Arsetroll

Spot on!

Sunny
Sunny

Exactly

bobbyp
bobbyp

Excellent point Pete. How else do fans get their frustrations across? Pre-season or not, nothing seems to have changed. All this ‘getting business done early’ bollocks hasn’t materialised yet again. I think most fans just don’t trust what Wenger says anymore.

Johnny Massacre
Johnny Massacre

Let’s get this right.

People were booing because they are frustrated at what generally everyone perceives to be a weakness in the team — defence — not being addressed so close to the start of the season despite Wenger saying we need to do business early and that will be active in the transfer market.

People were booing because they are fed up of seeing the same mistakes rear their heads again, that have been rearing their heads for five years. Even if it’s a friendly, people are expecting that we should destroy teams in friendlies.

People were booing because Thierry Henry was there; and that reminded everyone of when we were great. Today, looking at all the small attacking midfielders running around was just very depressing. I think people feel the frustration of falling behind other teams.

Speaking of which; people were booing because Chelsea, Man City and United; already with teams stronger than ares as proved by their league positions last year, have strengthened massively. We have bought a backup to a position we already have the best player in the league for (Sagna) and another attacking midfielder.

I know it costs more to buy early, but personally I think the extra £10 million we will lose from buying early to ensure we don’t get off to a bad start for what could be a make or break season will be nothing compared to the financial loss of not getting into the Champions League.

If the boos are coming now, I hope Arsene is going to get this right … because if Cesc leaves (and it looks like he will) I am extremely concerned about what this season will bring…

komododragon
komododragon

But how does the booing help? What does it actually do?

John
John

It sends a message to wenger and the team and the board that we are not happy with the way things are

Keep on cheering the team and wenger will think that everything he is doing is right

Jasonisimo
Jasonisimo

That’s seriously what you think? I have to pity you, in all honesty.

arseinamsterdam
arseinamsterdam

keep cheering the team and everyone will think you support it… strange behaviour indeed.

Saint
Saint

Went to watch the Dublin cup yesterday Celtic were terrible but there fans sang and encouraged there team for the full 90 minutes. Pity the arsenal fans can’t create a bit of atmosphere like that on match days. as some people have said here already it’s a friendly.No points given out for beating red bulls and boca juniors

alex
alex

I am sick and tired of these Arsenal “fans”. when these fake fans get behind the team (e.g. home game against barcelona), we play well. the rest of the time they’re nowhere to be found except when they boo when the team loses.

such a bunch of sourpusses.

Genius
Genius

You took the words out of my mouth!!! We won the Barca match and most of the away matches last year,it was because of loud and positive fans……
And anyways it’s pre-season, so the team couldn’t and shouldn’t give everything as they are not completely match fit yet or else could risk injuries or fatigue later on…
And 17 players appeared(with very inexperienced players included), so it’s hard to get the rythm and chemistry on……This was just a fitness getter and a small test to judge the players for Arsene…….

Gunnersteve
Gunnersteve

I really can’t believe what I’m reading- yes we were poor defensively, yes we haven’t won a trophy in 6 years but it’s still pre season. Who cares if we didn’t win the emirates cup- I certainly don’t- let’s wait til the season starts before we start criticising Arsene or any of the players- let’s take the positives from the weekend Afobe and Frimpong being two major plus points. Let’s get behind the team and the manager abd who knows

Spectrum
Spectrum

Gunnersteve – You say ” let’s wait til the season starts before we start criticising Arsene or any of the players”. So I take it then, that if we play this season the same as last season, concede sloppy goals from set pieces,e.t.c. that it will then be acceptable for us to do so ? And that you personally, will join in that booing ?
If not, then you’re not being consistent. And in fact, you’re being a hypocrite. As another poster on here said, the reason we boo the players is to give them, and the one who picks them, A MESSAGE. When they pull on the Arsenal shirt, they is an expectation that they will show pride in it, work hard, and LEARN from their mistakes. Who knows, if they have any conscience at all, the booing may even motivate (at least some) of them, to do better. Have you ever looked at it that way ?
The booing also sends a message to the manager that he’s expected TO ADDRESS the issues with the team. It’s incredible that we STILL haven’t bought the defender we desperately need, and the defensive midfielder, that has been missing since Flamini left – which was what – three years or more ago ??? Only now has the penny dropped with Wenger, that the guy who replaced him – Denilson – is not good enough. We all saw that, but Wenger didn’t. Go figure. It’s sheer NEGLECT that’s got this team to where it is now. At any other club, that would not be tolerated. At Arsenal, the board rewards it with an extended contract !
” In Arsene we rust.”

Chris
Chris

I think the sensible way forward is to let the team know how you really feel before they’ve started the game. So Im proposing a chorus of boos during the warmup against Liverpool. And if we sign Mata or Jagielka or Cahill or someone else the daily mirror mentioned, we should boo them even more. Let them know they cant get away with not performing in the warm up. And the mascot kid – on the day, boo him every time he only kicks the ball to szczxyz instead of knocking it in the onion bag. That’ll learn him.

P-MG
P-MG

Fans are bottlers, more that the team. The home support for a team chasing a title last season, and the atmosphere was like nobody cared until it didn’t happen . Only loud when things go wrong.

Booing a friendly, not even after a loss is a joke. Wenger has a lot of work to do, and deserves criticism like every other manager, but we haven’t started the season and people are out for blood. The fans are going to make home games into easy ones for the visitors by not getting behind the team.

5am
5am

Well, if Wenger sees Sol Campbell doing well in training and decides to go with him instead of paying £15mil or so for a defender, I wonder if supporters will still be frustrated? I’d support it but the proof would be in the pudding and it’s a critical period for Wenger at the mo, where it doesn’t apppear he’s taking fans views on board. His call though, as he’s the manager for now…..

Beardy
Beardy

Afraid too many of the above comments show what a bunch of impatient wankers a lot of Arsenal fans are these days. Cock off and go somewhere else.

Pete
Pete

Oh yeah, we’re so impatient. Third biggest club in England that hasn’t put a decent title challenge together for 7 years. Supporters like you make me sick, you’re the reason we win fuck all, supporting a lunatic tight arse manager who fails every season.

Rodders1971
Rodders1971

If you lot that admit to booing our players/manager-after a glorified FRIENDLY for gods sake- could channel your energy in a more positive manner,the stadium just might become a more positive place,unlike the theatre of doom that it is at the moment.I know it’s not easy at the moment,but keep the faith and remember-it could be worse,we could be like sperz!!

aaaaa
aaaaa

not to put pressure on the team…haha…worked well the last 6 years hasnt it?

Anto
Anto

Did Wenger pay for a ticket, did chamakh or arshavin pay for a ticket , no they didn’t.
Many arsenal fans travelled by air or sea or coach or whatever to see Arsenal.
Bullshit performance.

Jasonisimo
Jasonisimo

A fucking friendly!

Those that travelled by air and sea (really?) did not boo, I guarantee you that much.

Savage is a Dave
Savage is a Dave

Yeah but your a bore as is your trolling of this page.

billywhizz

jesus. the haters really need to grow up. this was a pre-season “friendly” for chrissake! who cares what the bloody result was… the season doesn’t start for another two weeks. why don’t you go “support” chelski if all you care about is trophies…

DownToEarthGooner
DownToEarthGooner

Definition of a fan: an enthusiastic devotee. Definition of foe: an enemy or opponent. What the fuck was in the Emirates stands on Sunday afternoon?

NorthernGoon
NorthernGoon

It would appear – falsely – that there are two divisions amongst our fans. Pro Wenger and Anti Wenger. This I find is the saddest thing.

I think booing is premature. From what I can gather all the pre-season games so far have been AW trying out different players to come into the squad. Hence the team changes in the second half. Sadly he hasn’t tried out different tactics but if I’m right then players like benik

NorthernGoon
NorthernGoon

It would appear – falsely – that there are two divisions amongst our fans. Pro Wenger and Anti Wenger. This I find is the saddest thing.

I think booing is premature. From what I can gather all the pre-season games so far have been AW trying out different players to come into the squad. Hence the team changes in the second half. Sadly he hasn’t tried out different tactics but if I’m right then players like Afobe, Frimpong and Bartley have been given runs out. Rosicky has been given chance to shine as has vela. Some players have confirmed what we arm chair managers knew already that they need to go. Mr Wenger is informatively stubborn but he’s not an idiot.

As fans we need to be less vitriolic and more unified behind our team or yes we will drive away the stay players not just those that shouldn’t be at Arsenal. We have a right to be vocal but we don’t have a right to win because we have in the past. However we shouldnt have to tolerate such capitulation. If we were fighting for fourth place we could be happy unfortunately we didn’t and we threw everything away.

anvil18
anvil18

As we are all gooners(which is the most important point) there’s really no point in booing the players,slating our most sucessful manager and generally adding to the already negative vibe(caused by the obvious trophy drought) around the club. Yes Arsene is far from perfect and alot of his bad decisions are stubborness born bt the man has a firm desire to lead this club to greatness again, Surely we can all give him a chance to get things right.

NorthernGoon
NorthernGoon

I fucking hate iPhones. Apologies fr the half post and then informatively addition. That should have read irritatingly.

Clown Shoes
Clown Shoes

Wow a lively debate for pre-season…..

Is six years without a trophy really that long? how do the likes of the other clubs that have never won the premier league….? yet never heard any amount of booing….

I remeber watching players like Gus Ceaser, Steve Morrow and Chris Whyte, boring boring Arsenal… yet there was moaning but no booing. we are here having won the league 3 times in the last 15 years, 2 x doubles, and play regularly in the Champions League….. yet those who have never experienced finishing 12th, 15th, 8th and the season actually being over in November are sruggling to live with the reality of finishing in the top four, and competing for the title…..

Becareful what you wish for – Leeds, Southampton, Portsmouth, Forest – all clubs with history, and have achieved… but where are they now.

alex
alex

most of these ‘fans’ were not fans until arsenal started winning things. they don’t know what it was like before wenger. for all i care, they can support citeh if they want a team that plays football like Football Manager, or Spurs if they want a revolving door of managers.

Jasonisimo
Jasonisimo

Hear hear!

Savage is a Dave
Savage is a Dave

Another plum that jumped on the wenger wagon. Before wenger came along we had won 10 league titles, lots of FA Cups and a couple of European trohies (2 more then your deity has achieved), we’ve always been a big club so please for the love of god leave when he goes.

arseinamsterdam
arseinamsterdam

well said clown shoes. i have a leeds supporting friend who cries all the time about how leeds should be in the prem league but still has a laugh about whiny arsenal fans have got in the last couple of years.

Donald
Donald

listen the booing is maybe over the top however itsexactly what was needed…finishing third in our own sponsored tournament, hand-picked opposition, friendly or not- thats pretty embarassing. But the booing had bugger all to do with the new york red bulls game, and ‘le prof’ should be smart enough to know that.
Its symptomatic of the fact 6years ago, we were promised this youth revolution would result in self sufficiency and continued dominance. Well now 6 years on Fabregas the figure head of Wenger’s vision, the starlet he built his vision around is about to be sold , as Fab is seriously digging his heels in on this move and all Wenger will get out of those 6years is transfer money and no trophies and develop a worldclass player and sell him on, and its probably going to happen again with Nasri.
Every summer its the same merry go round, after a dismal late season collapse for some perverse reason Wenger promises the weaknesses to be addressed and his young team will continue to mature. Yet by the end of the summer, no weaknesses have been addressed and the same frailties come to light like groundhog day throughout the season.
We continue to be in transition 6 years on, and will have to rebuild again when we sell Fabregas. And i say when because today was the day i realised he had to go. He’s a wonderful player i’ve spent the last 2years terrified i’d wake up in the morning to him in barcelona. But Fab is just as tired as the fans are, he’s been burdened with the hopes of an entire club resting on his young shoulders before he’d even reached his prime. Wenger steadfastly refusing to invest in veteran help to ease the strain on him, and he refused to do it. Now Fab wants to go home, and to be honest its doin noone any favours him sticking around pining for pastures new. We need a leftback, centreback or two and Mata and more importantly people who are commited.
Wenger can tell the fans to be patient all he likes, so he can protect his players. But he can’t pull the wool over our eyes again- when it starts becoming some perverse comedy that we know regardless of how much we’re winning by, we know by fulltime we’ll find some way to score an own goal or give up an inconceievable equaliser or winner to the opposition. You know that when its not a surprise us shoving a player off the ball in the 99th minute in the box against liverpool, or Jenkinson firing a 40yard volley into his own goal or twice in one season failing to beat spurs when up by 2goals or coneding 4 to newcastle in20mins, or Almunia being able to fill a lord of the rings trilogy lengthed dvd on his own bloopers and him STILL being at the club 5years on says it all about this club right now. And the fans have had it. They’ve invested 6years worth of money to season tickets and merchandise, the price of the seats continue to go higher than anyone else in the league for the love of the club, and the quality on the park continues to get poorer. At some stage Wenger has to be wise to this and build a legit winner.

Bilbo
Bilbo

That was well said. The club needs a lift – something good to focus on, a la ‘Bergkamp’ type signing. And a defensive coach.

Robin Yer Pursie

RABBEL RABBEL RABBEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

alex
alex

seriously, in how many games are we going to take off Kosc to bring on Bartley? This is a pre-season, you maroons. give everyone a chance, just like we did against Koln or those Malaysian teams.

For those who are anti-wenger ANd boo the team, please cock off and support another team. Give up your season ticket if you have one, we have a long line of lads who’re waiting. we won’t miss you. or your fucking negativity.

Luke
Luke

Honestly why are we so frustrated ? This is Arsenal we’re talking about. I don’t think I’d be lying if I said we all saw it coming right ?
It happened last season ,it almost happened against cologne, it happened against Boca Jr and New York Redbull, and you can be damn sure it will happen again, whether we like it or not. What I’m saying is: Get over it.
Yes it’s annoying, yes we’d like the manager to fix this issue, but I don’t think it can be fixed. I honestly don’t think this Arsenal team can be solid defensively ala Man U, and I’ve come to accept that fact.
Football becomes much less frustrating when you accept the weaknesses or the team you support.
If results like this are getting fans this angry, then too bad because we’re in for more of this next season.

dennis
dennis

Where were these negative morons when bruce rioch was in charge – not even watching football. Yeah I remember the dark days and it seems they are back. I’m arsenal until I die trophies or no trophies. Stop whineing on about bloody trophies, let’s fix the problems re-group and worry about trophies when we’ve got this team sorted out. I know its tough being close then literally throwing it away halfway through the season but some of you lot sound like a bunch of yiddos. Man up or jog on. After all even bruce rioch signed dennis bergkamp. Maybe its all about bringing bruce back for a big bad brucey bonus.

Spectrum
Spectrum

We WERE NOT close. We were 12 points away. It’s where you finish at the END of the season that tells the story. To believe we were “close” is what our deluded manager believes, and his devoted followers fall for it, like they do with all his other spin and lies.
Last season was one of the poorest Premier leagues for many years. It seemed as if none of the contenders wanted to win it. It was our best chance to capitalise on that and win the title. And if Wenger had sorted the team mentally, and showed some tactical inventiveness, we WOULD have.
Instead, an average Man U. did. Why ? Because their players were more motivated, and had a winning mentality. Qualities our manager, unlike Ferguson, cannot instill into them.
” In Arsene we rust.”

Sam
Sam

To be fair to Rioch he took us from 12th or 13th I forget to europe in one season. Admittedly Bergkamp was a major part of that but give the man his dues

bm
bm

Booing premature..save your strength..you will need it come Jan-May 2012

ne
ne

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Major
Major

Why were people booing at that? Yes it was a set piece, but it was nowhere near what our CB pairing would be. It was a friendly, i would expect the players not to go full throttle to avoid injury! Booing your own team is a stupid thing to do and the fans who booed can f*#$ right off

CJ of the C
CJ of the C

I hope Mata wasn’t watching yesterday. The fact is that Arsenal play half their games in front of a hostile crowd and the other half away. It’s an impossible situation. We won’t win anything and nobody will want to play for us.

Jay
Jay

It’s quite simple : play better and the fans will not boo or buy better players that will assist the team in playing better and the fans will not boo.

Then this problem goes away.

Biff Baxter
Biff Baxter

The players already feel completely disconnected from the fans. How long has it been since an Arsenal crowd supported an Arsenal team? At the Emirates it’s crickets or jeering. You boo them, they go play somewhere else for more money.

Jay
Jay

Biff,

When you are charged the most expensive ticket prices in the league then the Customers (which is exactly what Arsenne has turned us supporters into) quite rightly have a reason to complain when the product they’ve paid for doesn’t live up to the hype. If you bought a car that only hit peak performance for 33% of the time you were driving it despite being promised the world when listening to the sales rep then you’d be on the blower to the dealer sharpish.

In fact, I think you could probably call the Advertising Standards agency on last years performance because even though they dressed like Arsenal, looked like Arsenal and promised to be Arsenal they certainly didn’t PLAY like Arsenal.

Wenger’s last year imo – he needs to Cough Up (a trophy) or Cock Off, to coin a phrase I heard somewhere 😉

morefiah
morefiah

And I once thought english football supporters were the epitome of real fan support. There are 20 teams in the PL. ALL of them want to win the league….16 of them would gladly change places with AFC….most of them (except maybe for MU and LFC) would gladly take Arsene as manager. In fact, the majority of them, save for Chelsea and ManU would take the performance of AFC over the last 10 years!!

It is a function of success that when you are successful it tends to heighten expectations. The more u win, the more people expect u to win. And the more impatient people are when u DON’T win. Arsenal is in my blood. I have 2 sons and because I know how bright they are I am demanding of them. Yet….they don’t always live up to mu expectations. Do I love them any less? Do I humiliate them? Do I rub their noses in the dirt? Hell fuckin no!!! I encourage them and I hope and I support them. At the end of the day, regardless of what they do, or don’t achieve, my love for them is unshakeable.

Such is my love for AFC. I WANT us to bbe champions again!!! I want it so much I can taste it….but life is not like that….its not just how much u want it….it has to be your time too. And it hasn’t been for us for a while. I accept that just as I accept that winners don’t always win. LFC hasn’t won in God knows how long but they still never walk alone. Sadly, many of us have abandoned our team in our hearts. Its not just enough to spend on tickets and go to the games. We have to actually SUPPORT the team no matter what. Is Arsene perfect?? Hell no….however, how easily some of us have forgotten the joy and pride he HAS brought to our team before. Support is easy when your team is winning….anyone can do that…… Where I come from we call them waggonists. But its the fan who supports the team thru the hard, tough, winless times who’s the true fan. And one such fan is a certain gentleman by the name of Thierry Henry… He said today “Arsene is the manager for me. I support him always!” Thanks Thierry….thank you so much; for the goals, the passion, the wins and even the losses….and most importantly, for the love of Arsenal. Arsene Wenger deserves our trust and support….but he’s just one man. Arsenal Football Club has made us proud before. Its time for us to return that, continue to be patient, continue to support, or take our brand of love and support (ad our stupid boos) elsewhere. Peace.

Dougie
Dougie

FRIENDLY!!!..YOU Booooing pricks!!yes wegner Needs to buy a defender or two but I don’t see why you all think we have a right to win something?ok were a big club and he does have money to spend but not the kind Chelzki and them other cunts have!!but to my recollection we’ve always challenged them and I feel still will.Lets have some positivity to add to the cause please (and hope he does bring in that elusive cb we need)an maybe we will get somewhere.Booing ain’t gonna help anything!