Graham confusing, Wilson ‘upset’ over Robson claims

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So George Graham, as outlined by Gary Neville in this Mail article, says on Friday that Arsenal will never win the title again.

Then, as part of a BBC 5 panel, says that Arsene Wenger is still the right man for the job. Confused? Yes, so are we.

“Management is about being successful and when you are, you take all the plaudits and the compliments,” said the former Arsenal boss.

“There is a lot of hysterical criticism about Wenger now. If you want to stay in the top four, he is the man without question.

“I think Wenger will stay there. He is very powerful at the club and rightly so. He will make the decision if he leaves or not. I cannot see him leaving at all.

“He enjoys Arsenal, the power and influence he has got throughout the club. I think Arsene will still be there for a few years yet. I just hope they bring in a better quality of player.”

And while nobody will argue about wanting to bring in better players, it’s certainly a mixed message and perhaps speaks to the level of opinion and punditry in the game right now.

Meanwhile, legend Bob Wilson has joined Liam Brady and Ray Parlour in casting doubts over the claims by Stewart Robson that Wenger and Steve Bould have had a major falling out.

Wilson, who worked for years under Wenger as goalkeeping coach, says that suggestions the Arsenal manager only hires ‘yes men’ are insulting.

“The claims of Arsene being a dictator, and from a former player in Stewart Robson, really upsets me.

“I believe if Steve Bould is being sidelined, he is wealthy enough, sensible enough and strong enough to resign if unhappy with his role.

“To say Wenger appoints yes men is an insult to all the people who have worked under him – myself included. I always stood up to Arsene.”

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Hudson Hornet
Hudson Hornet

I guess George meant we will not win title under Arsene and current board structure and lack of investment.

Which is quite a presumption on my part 🙂

Fuck knows and the over riding emotion is MEH – fuck em all.

Pong of the OxCoq
Pong of the OxCoq

Sigh… Only way we win anything with Wenger is if we have a vastly superior team/squad than the rest.
He has his philosophy how the game should be played, which was revolutionary 10yrs ago but sadly has not evolved since & has led him to habitually using square pegs in round holes… ffs he played Bendtner as a right winger & is now doing the same with Ramsey!!
Hate ManUre but Ol’ Red nose sets his teams up to play to the strengths of his available players and depending on the opponent, adapts his tactics to exploit their weakness.

TomJ
TomJ

Is this the same George Graham that illegally took illegal bungs while representing us and went on to take a wage off the enemy. Who gives a fuck what he thinks.

Glory Hunter
Glory Hunter

Lol the irony!
And yet we are supposed to listen to your opinion of him, whoever you might be!
He without sin cast the 1st stone!!!

Wenger says we should judge him at the end of the season, & I’ll reserve my judgements until then but we are more or less out of the title race! If we can’t beat Bradford, we have no chance of winning Champs lge & FA cup is at best a possibility not a guarantee, so in all likelihood we’ll end season trophyless & make Top 4!

And personally I don’t think that’s good enough but only time will tell!

The Loving Hands of Wenger
The Loving Hands of Wenger

Word is bond son.

lufthandjob
lufthandjob

Robson is a vile cunt.

nishanth
nishanth

Only one of Stuart Robson’s claims makes sense. That the fact these players are poorly coached and tactically weak. I am pretty sure many of you have watched Arsenal matches recently and wondered what the fuck do these guys do in training. Rest of the stuff he says is likely to be nonsense in my opinion

L

“I just hope they bring in a better quality of player.”

The board won’t invest in new quality players, they have already sold our best players.

If they wanted to have an good team with enough quality to win trophys, they wouldn’t have sold our best players.

Fuck the board.

Runcgooner
Runcgooner

Bracewell smith has got a nerve.it was her who sold her shares to the greedy yank,now she is slagging him off ?

Miranda
Miranda

Er, what would you do if you held shares in a company that had just kicked you off its board? Keep them? Donate them to the board who’d just made it clear to you that your involvement was unwelcome and forced you to resign? She sold to Usmanov, didn’t she?

MeSoHornsey
MeSoHornsey

No. She soled to Kroenke. If she had sold to Usmanov, Arsenal would now be the new Oil Billionaire club on the block.

Rob67
Rob67

Presumably George was just ‘thinking out loud’ ? Or perhaps just speaking and not thinking ?

This :-

“I think Wenger will stay there. He is very powerful at the club and rightly so. He will make the decision if he leaves or not. I cannot see him leaving at all.”

is plain idiotic.

Wenger is an employee of the Club. “He will make the decision if he leaves or not” Really ? I was under the impression that someone’s employment in any organisation, was down to more than their own inclinations.

However he’s on stronger ground when he says :”He is very powerful at the Club and rightly so.” Rather confirms Robson’s point does it not ? In reality he’s too powerful, as no one holds him to account and he takes it as a personal insult if anybody tries.

All of which is very bad for Arsenal Football Club. But lo and behold we once again – for what must be the 99th time – have the ‘Wenger to Real Madrid’ garbage back in circulation. Funny how Wenger always floats this one every time someone questions him.

Why RM would want a serial loser, when they have Mourinho is never explained. Perhaps they have decided to go on a trophy famine for the next 7 years, in which case AW might just be their man.

neutral
neutral

Actually Wenger has many times alluded to how he will evaluate his own performance(s) at the end of the season and step down if he found his evaluation lacking. I’m pretty sure he said this last season, after stumbling in at 3rd place I think he was pretty satisfied.

What worries me is that Wenger might decide to resign and the club will have no plan in place to replace him, kind of like with Fabregas.

Glory Hunter
Glory Hunter

That’s the worst part, things are bad with Arsene at the moment but it’ll probably get worse if he leaves!

Cos we’ll still most probably sell our best players, still have the same board & a new manager who’ll need time to adjust & build his own team.

We are literally stuck between a rock & a hard place!!!

Rodders1971
Rodders1971

Bob Wilson-Arsenal double winning legend & all round top bloke.
Stewart Robson-Bitter,Arsene & Arsenal hating West Ham twat,whoring his bullshit to the highest bidder.Fuck off slaphead!

Anon
Anon

tl;dr Robson is a cunt and Graham contradicted himself assuming that Graham wants Arsenal to win trophies

Arseblood
Arseblood

George and Arsene both had ‘winning’ streaks of 7 years before tailing off…time for a change.
Mourinho?…..George Graham with money!…got results with powerful sides, fuck what anyone thought of playing style.
I can see good points in all our ex players comments…we’ve all called Wenger a cunt down the pub!

mark
mark

I wish Robson and Piers Morgan would fuck right off !

rangooner
rangooner

bit off-topic, but if you had told me 2 years ago that gary neville would be one of the most level-headed and insightful pundits i would have called you a mentalist. but credit where credit’s due, he’s become a real voice of reason as things get exponentially more histrionic in the media.

t
t

well i think graham makes perfect sense. he said wenger’s the man to keep us in the top four, he’s powerful at the club, its up to him to decide when he leaves, he doesn’t think he would decide to leave. how does that contradict with “arsenal will not win another premier league title”?

we might be in or around the top four but i don’t think anyone realistically sees us mounting a title challenge anytime soon let alone winning it.

steve boulds hairdresser
steve boulds hairdresser

for as much as i hate neville for being united scum, must say i have surprised myself in that i have grown to like him as a pundit.

Gunsen gunner
Gunsen gunner

Yeah but it still feels…unnatural.

Festa
Festa

Robson is entitled to his opinion, he’s entitled to stupidity.

Piecrust71
Piecrust71

Stuart Robson’s a wanker. Don’t give that oaf any more web space.

Des
Des

Gary neville seems nice and reasonable. Leave aside his footballing years where he and scholes locked lips, I think he’s a sane pundit. Something very rare this days.

Eric Irish gunner
Eric Irish gunner

Agree he never seems to slate us and is not biased with his utd past unlike that redknapp cunt

fxxg
fxxg

sooner or later wanger quit and we will see..

greg
greg

gg is right, we will be in and around the top 4 but we wont win it with him. after all that is success for aw. he clearly has too much power within the club, he wants all the credit for the good news but distances himself from the bad. does he really expect us to believe its not him who decides the amount of money being offered to walcott? righty theo wants more than gervinho, and god anybody deserves double what djourou is paid! why does aw not answer for the amount of money paid to very average players. thats why we cant get rid of them

personally I think there is an issue with bould, why didnt he take training on the friday in question? robson maybe has a degree of substance in suggesting wenger is a control freak by not letting bould take charge of sessions.

why does he continually play players out of position? arshavin, ramsey, bendtner, ox, arteta its bizarre.

for god sakes sign a dm in jan, diaby will never be fit, although i suspect if he left arsenal he would be fit for any other club, we have serious problems in our medical dept

the only sam is nelson
the only sam is nelson

i’m still surprised that people still cling to this “playing out of position” idiocy

it’s pretty obvious that wenger sets out his team on the basis that he believes they are technically and phyisically superior to the opposition, and that where they are playing is as fluid as the game dictates. once upon a time we had players who responded to the responsibility that placed upon them, and thrived on being able to dictate the game. now, less so. we’ve a glass jaw. because the players aren’t so confident.

but arshavin, to take an obvious lightning rod for this weird sense of disatisfaction with positions, is obviously a player of enormous skill, so to whinge about him being played “out of position” is just bullshit – if he’s good enough to play for the arsenal, he’s good enough to play wide, centre, or deep. simple. where did freddie play? bergkamp? i mean going back, where did merse play? fact is that we can’t keep a squad together long enough for wenger to instill what’s needed because the board need to produce a profit, and we’re left with players who aren’t as good as those who came before. look at hleb – he would walk into the current side.

wenger’s ability to make a (financial) silk’s purse from a sow’s ear is both our blessing and our curse.

greg
greg

arteta a dm? lacks mobility, cant recover and can be caught in possession in dangerous positions
the ox a winger? what is his position? surely an att cm
ramsey a winger? ability in cm certainly lacks the skill as a winger
look at vertonghen the other day, he said he chose spurs because wenger wanted to play him in cm in the petit role! bizarre

aa is a great example, superb for russia playing centrally but when his job is on the flank hes poor. so if you know hes good centrally and poor out wide, i know just persist in playing him out wide. gervinho is such a poor finisher that why would anyone play him as a striker? there is no fluidity in our formation, that went years ago and we havent been technically or physically superior to anyone for a long time

the only sam is nelson
the only sam is nelson

of course, that will be why cesc fabregas played all over the midfield and in the whole and why barca courted him for years

if you’re good enough you’re good enough, the idea that fans know more than allardyce is bullshit, the idea that fans know more than wenger? come on. you cite vertonghen as being better at managing a football team than wenger?

right

pffftt

Frog
Frog

Pffffft. Why would you play gervinho at all? Arshavin played wide for Russia the past few years.

Dick Swiveller
Dick Swiveller

Seriously? Vertonghen would be fucking perfect in our midfield, I don’t understand how you can take what is a great idea from Arsene and claim that shows how stupid he is.

Incidentally, Arshavin has played out wide plenty of times for Russia and a bit at Zenit iirc.

Runcorn Gooner
Runcorn Gooner

Off topic but just shows you how fickle football is.Schalke manager wins our group and has just been sacked plus Chelsea lose World championship and fans say its a “nothing trophy” Just guess what they would have said if they won it.
Soccer is fickle and when we beat Reading and Wigan next week most AFC fans
will be happy and looking forward to a bright New Year.
Pundits like Robson and Savage are just retired middle of the road players who
spout garbage to get a reaction.Best ignore them and they will go away just like
Abrahamovich will if things don’t improve at Chelski.Funny old game football

the only sam is nelson
the only sam is nelson

that’s about this size of it

although chelsea fans’ reaction to winning or losing the world club bollocks would surely be “rafa out” whichever the result

greg
greg

shalke are 7th and have lost 4/6 with the other 2 draws.

so what if we do beat reading and wigan? we wll know there are major problems at our club and not just with the playing squad which aw himself has stated is the best he has had. its papering over the cracks yet again as we try to do everything on the cheap

Glory Hunter
Glory Hunter

Can you honestly say you would be surprised if we don’t win either of those games?!?

D
D

Can you honestly say you would be surprised if we don’t win either of those games?!?

That’s what’s so depressing about the decline of Arsenal.
No I wouldn’t.

L

http://twitter.yfrog.com/5hzu5zjxvhveqkobnwockswmz

your a money grabbing cunt robin

NCGunner
NCGunner

As a proud American I have to say when Kroenke got the majority shares of Arsenal FC, I became slightly less of a proud American. The guy is a complete zero. I believe questions are fair in terms of Wenger and whether or not there is cash and whether or not it is down to him that it is not spent on quality and keeping the quality. Same for Gazidis and his constant malarkey rubbish message to the fans about how he is so frustrated like us….f that. It’s great to come out and say this isn’t good enough and not up to our standards when you lose to anyone…..but that stuff is platitudes. If these guys would identify the quality spend the money to get it, and keep what they have in house, they wouldn’t have to feed us this crapola after every embarrassing lost.

Kroenke, though, what a waste product.

Traveshamockery. I wish the likes of him would leave us alone.

L

He is rhetorically retarded for being an american, and greedy as fuck. Kroenke out Usmanov in plz..

Can’t say that i trust Usmanov but everything seems better than Kroenke…

Miranda
Miranda

Sure Usmanov’s a risk but all single ownership is a risk. Apart from anything else, you don’t know how the owner’s heirs are going to behave. Snag is, the ideal situation, imo fan ownership and/or a board who see themselves as custodians of the club for future generations, isn’t an option for us any longer. We’ve been sold, and sold, like extinct, is for good.

Of the two available models of ownership, profiteer or train-set/prestige, it’s pretty clear which has done best for the clubs.

Profiteer: United (still doing OK but from which the Glazers have pilfered 700m – imagine where they’d be if they’d kept their 700m); Liverpool, Villa, us: all doing less well than before they were bought.
Train-set/prestige: Chelsea, City: both doing massively better than before they were bought and still not, contrary to Peter Hill-Wood’s prediction, showing any sign whatsoever of being about to implode in a puff of black smoke.

Hard to argue under the circumstances with your preference for Usmanov, especially given Kroenke’s openly professed admiration for the methods of the Glazers.

neutral
neutral

I don’t think Kroenke admires the leveraged buy-out, rather United incredible perfomance in regards to commercial partnerships and global branding. What Kroenke maybe does not undrstand is that success on the pitch and super-star players are essential to the commercial success.

Miranda
Miranda

Kroenke certainly isn’t critical of the Glazers’ leveraged buy-out. In one of his rare interviews – I think there have only been two – he was critical of United fans and the media here for protesting at the pilfering of the 700m. Nobody in the US, he asserted, would ask that sort of question. Owners, in his view, are fully entitled to take money out of the club and the protests are ridiculous, indeed thoroughly ungrateful, so long as that club continues to thrive.

Asked by the AST to give a written undertaken that he wouldn’t himself be doing a Glazer, he has consistently refused. (This is actually a mark in his favour. At least he’s honest and realistic, recognising that the future is unpredictable and there may come a time – if things go bottom up elsewhere in his empire, for instance – when he needs to draw on Arsenal for funds.)

neutral
neutral

Most of the Kroenke critcism is misplaced, and I would not believe Bracewell-Smith, whose probably got her own interests to protect.

The flat wage structure means we can’t get rid of the deadwood, that was in place long before Kroenke.

Kroenle does not buy the players, and for the money spent, these players should perform better. Arsenal is at about 0 interms of transfer spend, but they’ve made a lot fo money on some players, that money has mostly been reinvested. But in who? We are carrying players such as Gervinho, Arshavin (who could have predicted his loss of form?), Squillachi, Chamackh (free, but on big wages), Podolski (a risky buy, that could still come good…but has really not), Santos, ect….

Some of these players seemed decent buys, they were not cheap. Is it Kroenke’s fault they did not work out? People can claim the money was not there to buy better players, but other clubs have bought plenty of better players in the same price range.

Then there is widely held opinion that Arsenal only has one tactic and that team looks like it’s been coached by a monkey, probably Kroenkes fault too, he does not want the team to play well, because if Arsenal succeeded he would be pressured to invest (I’ve actually seen this exact argument made on these boards, the Kroenke wants Arsenal to finish exactly fourth, and not better).

I believe the club should invest to succeed, because success on the pitch brings more fans, more commercial income, more prize money and so on. Take the risk. Arsenal does not do this, but that policy was in place lone before Kroenke came to the club so it hardly seems his initiative, however consistent it might be with the clubs he runs. Myself, I would like to see majority fan ownership such as the model for German clubs.

L

Kroenke have taken selling our best players to a new level..

Miranda
Miranda

Regardless of whether you think Kroenke is the best (richest? least parasitic? most competent? most ambitious?) owner for us, there’s no doubt that having two owners at loggerheads, one totally excluded from involvement in the running of the club, is a bad thing.

Owners at loggerheads;
manager at loggerheads with his assistants – John Cross (who’s normally pretty reliable) says that Wenger’s relationship not just with Bould but also with Liam Brady is strained at the moment;
fans at loggerheads – for the first time in decades there’s now massive fan disaffection with perhaps 50 percent questioning whether Wenger is the best man for the job;
players at loggerheads – probably, to judge from the mass exodus over the past three years and the clear signs of demoralisation on the pitch.

In short, the entire club from top to bottom, owners to fans, is looking increasingly divided and dysfunctional, and blaming it all on Wenger or even on Kroenke isn’t going to help us out of this fix. Trouble is, it’s Wenger who’s emotionally involved – Kroenke couldn’t give a toss except for his profits – and who’s carrying the whole burden on his increasingly frail-looking shoulders. It can’t be good for his health or his judgement.

Aamir
Aamir

I hate the media making headlines out of nothing,
Also, there is something seriously wrong with this
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/17740

greg
greg

except hes f’ing gash

phat
phat

if we are not going to change managers then wenger himself needs to change.
bring in some striking and attacking coaches. its way more cheaper than buying players, i thought wenger loved value for money.

lollo
lollo

the quality of players is the crucial point . even me, if i had the right players could challenge for the title . all the most successful managers have done it by choosing the right players to sign . top players do not need coaching ! thats the area where wenger is failing . his advisers need to be replaced , for all the good buys there is the same amount of bad buys , and eventually we end up playing the bad buys , leading to the type of team we have now

Eltee
Eltee

I honestly don’t think we are going to win the title under Wenger because we did not arrive where we are overnight. I have given some reasons below.

Reasons:

It took him too long realise that he was tactically wrong with his youth policy and blatant disdain for mature players. This sent the wrong message to the likes of RVP, and older players. Ironically, the older players, rescued Arsenal in the form of Arteta and RVP after the team imploded.

He still blindly believes in his youth policy but tries to mislead everyone. Arteta could have led the team well as captain but I believe he only sees him in Arsenal for another two years maximum no matter how well he is doing, hence he was bypassed.

He’ll say anything just to shut the fans up. When we are in trouble he says he’ll bring players in and renegs as soon as any fleeting form returns. His excuse is “no quality players to buy” which is clearly not true. The likes of Newcastle, Swansea, Everton have been bringing in good players for for less than us. Fabregas, RVP saw through this and left. The two reasons above explains why some of his decisions appear inconsistent.

He is so untouchable that we could talking about another damage limitation in two seasons without his job being at risk. When you are under no pressure there is no incentive to give peak performance.

He can no longer get the best out of the players. His recent demeanor at the dugout is proof to them that he dosen’t have a clue what to do. Even good players now come to Arsenal and become ordinary.

He thought the cups were beneath him. A good strategy would have been attempting to win one of the cups in place of unrealistic winning EPL and CL a few years back. This would have given the players, and the fans, a massive boost. We now have despair instead of belief and hunger.

The premiership is littered with quality players that almost came to Arsenal. Most of them opted for teams that were more likely to win something. With no CL, those chances have narrowed. It will take a mamoth effort to bring winning players in under Wenger, and we are not ready to spend the sort of money required.

We have tipped over the edge and are sliding down the hill. It will take more than the force that pushed us over to stop us sliding further downhill. For these reasons I believe it’ll take more than Wenger to win any more titles in Arsenal.

Miranda
Miranda

I don’t think Wenger’s to blame for everything that’s gone wrong – much of it is out of his control – but I agree he’s untouchable and that’s a bad thing. His recent press-conference assertion that the only important thing was that he loved the club struck me as ill-judged because it’s so contemptuously dismissive of the fans’ concern at the way the team has been playing all season. Only a manager who felt totally safe in the job could have said anything so arrogant-sounding and thoughtless.

No, Wenger, love of the club is not the only thing required in a manager – if it was, I could do it. Success is what is required. No success and we’re not going to sell tickets, especially not the corp-exec ones on which we depend. No success and we’ll not have any money, nor any players willing to come to us once we’ve sold our last remaining competent ones.

It’s especially bad that Wenger feels untouchable because the reasons he’s untouchable are bad reasons. If Kroenke were a more knowledgeable, experienced and ambitious owner, Wenger’s job would not be quite so secure. Kroenke is only sticking with Wenger because he hasn’t the faintest clue who else to appoint and because he wrongly believes that Wenger is a good manager on a low budget.

Wenger, as Usmanov has recognised, is a brilliant manager of very talented young players, but these days for them you need a reasonably competitive budget. On a low budget, he isn’t that good. For a low budget you need a Moyes or an Allardyce type; compared to the West Broms, West Hams, Evertons, etc. teams who are managing on a fraction of what Wenger has spent, we have been seriously underperforming and a fair number of Wenger’s recent buys have been failures. Usmanov said that he would stick with Wenger if he had a say in the matter, but then Usmanov would (a) give him the money he needs and (b) expect better results.

Eltee
Eltee

As it turns out Wenger has backed the club blocking Usmanov from a position on the board. I honestly wonder why a manager should be involved in such club politics? There is no way this is not a distraction from him doing his job as a manager.

While a trench warfare breaks out in the boardroom with the manager caught in the middle the fans are the ones left dealing with the fall-out and out of pocket.

Assuming Usmanov somehow manages to take over the club. What are the chances that he’ll be allowed to carry on as manager? This is just another reason why his position in Arsenal has become a problem.

Miranda
Miranda

Eltee – where did you read that Wenger has backed Kroenke-Gazidis in the exclusion of Usmanov from a seat on the board? Could you give us your source?

If he has – and it sounds horribly plausible – yes, it’s a worrying sign as he’s putting loyalty to his current employer above what many people would see as the long-term best interests of the club. Two owners at loggerheads, rather than cooperating and pooling their resources, can’t be beneficial by anyone’s definition, and you have to ask why Kroenke is so unwilling to allow Usmanov any involvement.

Since Usmanov’s money would pay off the stadium debt and buy us the chance of greater success on the pitch, you’d think Kroenke would be delighted to see his profits and share values rising at no cost to himself. You’d also think he’d be delighted to draw on Usmanov’s expertise and areas of interest for acquiring better sponsorship deals. The downside for Kroenke, of course, would be that if he ever wants to syphon off Arsenal’s profits to prop up other parts of his sports empire, having Usmanov on the board and with access to the accounts, just might prove a bit of a handicap. Total power – or, as Gazidis put it, an absence of disharmony at board level – seems to be a requirement for Kroenke. Very much agree with you that the manager should stick to his job and not involve himself in boardroom power politics.

Joeos
Joeos

The Premier League has been won by either Chelsea, Man U or Man C during our seven years of total abject failure. Chelsea and Man C have won five of the FA Cup finals in that period with combined expenditure of £2bn. The two other winners being Portsmouth and Liverpool. Most rational people would rather be in our position than those two clubs. Four of the League Cups were won by Chelsea and Man U; the other three winners being Spurs, Liverpool and Birmingham. You cannot seriously argue that those victories have led on to greater success for those clubs.

Eltee
Eltee

In contrast to the other cup winners, bar the high rollers, we actually had players that were good enough to win the cups at least. And we all know that we are more than a match for even the high rollers on a good day. I argue that winning one of those cups would have made the players even hungrier. I also agree with Miranda that citing your love for the club alone is not a good enough reason to remain as manager.

samba
samba

Wenger is probably still the right man. But now I believes Wenger is not the only man for Arsenal.

samba
samba

I mean, I believe Wenger is not the only option for.Arsenal.

young1977
young1977

Check out this clip of the Dutch skunk turncoat!!
Makes my stomach turn!!! What a wankbag!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4eh4a8XS1OI

L

what’s disgusting me most is the gloryhunting manure supporters comments.

“He deserves more respect” fuck off

I can remember that the manure supporters threatend rooney to his life when he said he wanted to leave.

Dave Gooner
Dave Gooner

Robin sucking on JamU dick – who’s surprised?. Who’s surprised when a prossie tries their best to please their client?

TH
TH

Is what Graham said actually confusing? Doesn’t;t believe we can win the league if the Prem continues as it does, doesn’t think anyone could do any better than Wenger as it stands. Fairly simple and not some weird opinion really.

Or is everyone being incredibly defensive and whiny because we’re currently not very good?

You want confusing? I’ll give you confusing;

“Our results are quite consistent and good away from home,”

Glory Hunter
Glory Hunter

Regardless of our results in December, if Arsene doesn’t strengthen the squad in January, then I really can’t see why anyone would still have faith in him!!
And after his comments about the squad Pre-Reading, I honestly don’t expect any signings apart from maybe Henry!!!

Ali
Ali
Eltee
Eltee

Good luck with that. It’s not spectacular enough a move, and it’ll mean he’s having the leftover of the likes of Pardew.

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He’s a jealous, selfish brat, Stewart Robson

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[…] 咱们再聊点比赛之外的,给大家介绍下格拉汉姆同志,这位同志给我等普罗众生生动演绎了为什么权威如此不靠谱的生动案例。他在周五还说什么阿森纳在温格治下再也无法夺得英超冠军,结果转眼间,他在参加BBC 5 的现场辩论节目时,又一脸赤诚的表达了对温格的支持:  “现在有很多对温格歇斯底里般的指责。如果你想留在前四行列,毫无疑问,温格是最适合的人选。我认为温格会留任。他在俱乐部举足轻重。无论是离开还是留下他都会做出决定。我无法接受他的离去。” […]

Joeos
Joeos

Very zealous from Eltee and Miranda, you are earning your bonuses.

Joeos
Joeos

Eltee and Miranda and their ilk can take their snide comments and crawl back into their holes until the next poor performance.