Saturday, November 27, 2021

Pardew: Arsenal left it too late for Jonny Evans

Late on transfer deadline day, Arsenal were reported to have had a bid rejected for West Brom’s Jonny Evans.

In the excitement of the Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang signing, and Mesut Ozil signing a new contract, it was news which barely registered at the time.

However, Baggies boss Alan Pardew says he’d made it clear to the Gunners, and other potential suitors, that any last minute attempt to sign the Northern Irish international would prove fruitless.

“It wasn’t for lack of warning to Arsenal and to all the clubs,” he said. “I’ve sat here every week saying don’t make a bid on the last day, because you’re not going to get what you want, really.

“Unless it’s a bid that’s going to knock us off our chair, and it was no way near that. So they [Arsenal] got probably the response they were expecting with that bid, I think.

“Jonny is a very, very important player. He is a great player. He is part of the spine of the team and that’s what I tried to strengthen this window.”

So, it seems like any effort to make defensive a recruitment was very much an afterthought, and not something we took too seriously.

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Pedant

Strange to leave it so late. I can’t believe they are happy with our defence.

Anonymarse

They probably didn’t know how much money they would have until right at the end.

If it was a choice between the two I’m happy with what we did.

Dave M

So strange right. So unlike Arsenal to go crazy right at the last minute of the transfer deadline…sigh…

thw14

They probably realise that the defensive problems are not going to be solved by new personnel. They’ve played to the manager’s strengths and I’m happy with that.

Plus, the way Pardew is talking, you’d think he was sitting on some Maldini-Campbell hybrid with a couple of decades left on his contract. This guy is part of a relegation defense and is available for 3 million in the summer.

Jsergio

This.

Jack

Thanks Alan but for now I think we’re ok without Matthew Lillard’s younger brother.

The Director

Although I am quite happy with our attacking additions and Mesut’s extension, I cannot believe the club neglected to address our defensive issues. While I do not think that it is solely down to our players, surely Arsenal could have attracted a player that improves the CDM or CB position?

Neil

Totally agree with this. But can anyone genuinely claim to be surprised that it happened this way? Unfortunately, no.
The new Arsenal motto should be: “We tried.”

The Director

Not really, but the fan in me keeps hoping that “this time will be different”… With our attack sorted, we can hopefully move in the right direction in the summer.

Olivije Žirod

The defensive issues are more because of our style of play than lack of quality at the back (no defender or goalkeeper could change that drastically) and because we can’t kill games. The latter is bigger problem this season. If we will score our chances we will also concede less.

Dave M

Again a lot comes down to tempo. If you play faster, more direct you don’t commit as many players forward and don’t get hit as much on the break yourself. Play slow you need so many forward to keep possession including defenders and you expose your backline…so simple yet Wenger just keeps going back to slow possession football despite the positive results we get when we play faster

alex betel

agree with this the quality of our individual defense is among the top.the system or something needs to change

pound4pound

Leaving it to the last minute? That doesn’t sound like us at all…

gunnerpete

but at least they got one low-ball bid in. That certainly fits the profile.

Gofio Gunner

Wenger knew and only did it to annoy Pardew

Eric Blair

Sounds to me like a punt to nothing with a cheap late bid. Either they accepted and we got a cheapish player, or they turned us down and we didn’t lose anything.

I’m pretty happy to be honest, we can use all our funds more wisely in the summer.

Sahil

hmm… I wonder what will happen if i try to take away the star asset of another club without giving them enough time to replace them. Surely that should be a palatable proposition to that club given that we are low-balling an offer by market standards. What could go wrong?
– Arsenal’s transfer strategy when it came to Johnny Evans

SharpasFc

Did Arsene really want him though? We certainly need to improve our defence in major positions particularly a new goal keeper. It seems to me that this was a story that was spun just for the sake of it. Seeing the defensive error Evans made in the FA Cup game I’m not that sorry we didn’t get him…we have heaps of players who can give goals away!

Dan

Standard!!

Razuuuj

Only downer of the window (Can’t complain though) @20 odd mil if he got us a trophy in the Europa it’s a bargain. Also taking our net spend to 27 mil it’d hardly put us in any financial trouble

Ayush Jain

We should have bought David Luiz on loan and maybe played him in DM and send Rob Holding to Burnley on loan as well. Cant see Holding and Chambers getting much game time till the end of the season.

sambo

Could have sent holding on loan to Pardew for half a season so they had a replacement

caligunner

How is that even a fair comparison. Let us have your best CB and we’ll give you on loan a young inexperienced CB we hope you give minutes to while you get relegated lol

Ben

The defence itself isn’t the issue, it’s that defensive midfield position, in the system we play.

Gudaffiduck

Thank god

Assshavin

Good, he would have just come here to sit on the bench, as poor performances Mustafi has had in recent weeks, he is still miles better than Evans. Have people even seen West Brom play? Anyone can defend when you play as defensive as they do.

A Different George

The last time I watched West Brom play, Evans was by a very long way the worst player on the pitch. Just terrible. I thought maybe he was preoccupied with the transfer rumours but, whatever the cause, it was as bad a defensive performance as you are ever likely to see in the Premier League.

Merlin\'s Panini

meh. Couldn’t give a shit about Jonny Evans. There are better centre backs.
It’s a shame we didn’t go for anyone else though.
Seems like the bid of £12 million was just to troll them given he can go for £3 million if they get relegated. A bit like the bankers’ offer when down to the last two boxes in Deal or No Deal.

caligunner

What better CB could we have gone after as good as Evans and I’m not saying he’s great but for 12M? Even up to 16M?

2G Gunner

The worst thing about making any bid to West Brom is then having to see Pardew’s smug-when-I’ve-got-no-right-to-be mug & hear his whiney voice. Tool!

Chrispy

No worries Alan. We’ll just have him for £3m in the summer once you’ve been relegated.

sixteen swans

Given that everything that comes out of Pardew’s mouth is bollocks and bullshit, I doubt we have anything like the truth of the matter here.

Bring back the turd-o-meter, I say.

Nick

To be frank one manure defensive reject a lifetime is one too many Sylvestre I mean ! Are Utd still narked at us palming them off with the hapless and hopeless Ian Ure ?? Plus Danny Welbeck the goal shy forward they so kindly let us have!

Shark

Well at least he keeps scoring against manure

Goonerest

“….any effort to make defensive a recruitment was very much an afterthought, and not something we took too seriously”

This does not sound like The Arsenal at all

santori

Thank Evans. Not the sort of player we should be adding unless on loan. Valuation too high, age another issue. Not the best defender by any means even if our own currently flatter to deceive. Buying team are not making due considerations to longer term requirements. Having said that the current defenders need to keep things simple. Too many occasions they’ve played the ball back into the danger area instead of clearing it. The latest culprit Mustafi but even Koscielny, AMN, Bellerin (not to mention the younger Cbacks) have all been culpable for this. Bould has to give clear instructions… Read more »

caligunner

On top of that we could have gotten Mahrez for 40-50M by easily threatening Leicester we won’t pay more and force them to sell to us.

Capn Crunch

To be honest, I’m not too fussed about missing out on Evans.

While I do think we clearly need more defensive reinforcement, I don’t think that he is the answer. He is an aging player in the league’s worst team. And on paper, is he really better than Koscielny, Mustafi or Monreal? (Although they are in pretty bad form)

It definitely midfield that needs more strengthening. There is currently nowhere near enough protection for our backline

Alessandro

I agree completely. Not to mention he picked up an injury in the middle of the window.

Good business not to sign him, even at 12M he is too expensive.

Fireman Sam

Yeah I agree. Not worried about missing out on Evans.

How many years now have we al been saying we miss a decent defensive midfielder?!

Saaram

They left it too late. So perhaps it’s an indication what will be the plan for summer

Gooner223

I think Pardew is up his own arse anyways. If he truly built his team around an aging Evans, he wasn’t going anywhere. £25M? We offered £12M. He can leave in the summer for £3M when the Baggies go down. Do your dance, Alan. Do your dance.

Fireman Sam

Jog on Pardew!

Andy

I think we shoud just bench xhaka for AMN and keep elneny in to help AMN adjust

Emperor

That’s is the bitter truth, put Eleny in DM he is strong in tackling, intercepting and protecting the back four. Watch him at EPL semi final vs chelsea at Emirate

Fireman Sam

Yeah Xhaka is a bloody liability. So switched off and half-hearted in defence.

Badaab

Sounds like we were hoping WBA would cash in on a smaller offer if we left it to the end.
Evans isn’t a player who excited me. We need younger players for the defense… Rodrigo Caio please.

ronaldo

arsenal always leave it to late, typical wenger, dithering all window then on the last day makes an offer and says we tried, nothing changers

Lack of Perspective

Typical nonsense

David

We definitely need to address the defensive issues in the squad, but I am glad we didn’t overspend and commit a long deal to Evans. He is not the long-term answer. Wenger needs to give AMN a run at defensive mid to see if he could potentially be the answer there (play him in the current Elneny position for a few matches). Central defenders will not come cheap so not sure if Wenger is really waiting until the Summer when he could potentially sell Mustafi and replace him with someone better. At some point he is going to have to… Read more »

Alessandro

Would rather we spend 12M on bringing a few defensive coaches in for a series of workshops with the boys, and a hairdryer session with AF.

Kaze

For me, I dont like Evans at all and neither do I think that our defenses are as bad as they seem to be.
What baffles me is that we lét Coq go and immediately after we switched back to a systém he thrived in. He is a limited player with a strong defensive aspect, certainly not complete enough to be one of the midfield two, but could have thrived again in a three.

gunnerpete

it’s almost like you’re saying there’s no plan…(spoiler: there is no plan)

Onenil

I think the idea is to use Elneny in that role.
He is good in the deep role. We fell apart when he came off against Swansea.

Billy Bob

What is going on with kolisinac (spelling)? Thought he would be a highlight of this season!!

Laughing Stock

Well, ain’t that a surprise. I’d LOVE to know how much we bid. We’d rather keep 3 mill in the bank than get into the top 4

santori

Lucky we did not take Sideshow Bob either. We need better solution for defense in the summer. Sadly Mustafi is one of our stronger assets. It would be a mistake to sell him. We have other contenders who are even weaker – Holding and Chambers. Plus we have to consider Koscielny is starting to show wear and tear. Per doesn’t really factor in as he frankly is just available for us but in de facto, he is biding time for the academy position. Our defensive options are weak. Wenger allowed Gabriel to leave before any of the young prospects showed… Read more »

Don Cazorleone

How can someone talk so much, yet say so little.

Lack of Perspective

Our two biggest mistakes this season. Sczezny and Gabriel.

LuisBoaMuerte

Gabriel was terrible

Michael Osborn

Bit of a “no story” imo. The issue wasnt the timing of our offer it was the ridiculous figures WBA were after for him! We probably did try a cheeky last minute offer but were never going to come close to what they wanted. Get him for the £3m release clause when they get relegated, would be a good squad player for that money..

ArsenalManitou

Still not convinced Johnny Evans is the answer. A capable back up maybe but we need some real quality at CB. More importantly at DM. Maybe AMN can become that but it’s a big ask for a 20 year old. Perhaps waiting till the summer to try and get some real quality (Koulibaly and Fabinho is the dream) at these positions is the way to go. I just don’t see Johnny Evans making a significant difference and playing one of the 3 youngsters (Holding/Chambers/Mavropanos) at CB when needed is a better/cheaper option till we can get a true upgrade.

Uhtred

Maybe they’ve got plans for the summer or is that wishful thinking?

Twatsloch

12 million for Evans and they turned it down but we let Giroud go to one of the richest clubs in the world for 18 million.

Sigh!

Bollocksp

Pardew’s a cunt

Bring back David Hillier

So we tried to buy a player who plays for a team with a defensive record nearly as bad as ours? Why? He’s average at best. Give Chambers a run in the team and somebody, any-frickin-body, tell Hank Scorpio to stop slide tacking on the halfway line.

VFB+Talheim

The best defence is to attack!!!!! That’s way probably Arsenal don’t buy defenders

Flamethrower

“…I have sat here every week saying that don’t make late bids” and “unless it was a bid that was going to knock us off our chair” Does anyone else think that Alan Purdeux is overly poetic and mildly reflective?

OdalGooner

He’s saying just about the only thing he CAN say. If he’d sold him to us (or anyone else) he’d go on about getting a lot of cash for an older player. Now he didn’t sell him, so now he’s acting bullish. Completely normal run-of-the-mill posturing, just like any other manager of any other club (our own included) would do. I’m happy we didn’t get him. Our defenders aren’t beyond reproach, but surely our problem is not with personnel, but with how we play what we have. I’d love a world class DM, or a world class defender, but.. we… Read more »

jon

Admittedly, landing the complex triangle swap must have been very stressful (and a great feat, really, for our negotiating team). But strengthening the defence was hardly contingent on the other deals going through. I suspect we might have negotiated transfer of other players, and only turned to Evans when this broke down.

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