Report: Mesut Ozil turns down loan move to PSG

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Report: Mesut Ozil turns down loan move to PSG

According to SZ.de, Mesut Ozil has turned down an approach from PSG to join them until the end of the season because he does not want go out on loan.

The Ligue 1 side have been hit with the news that Neymar will be out until April, having fractured a metatarsal, and with Champions League a big priority for the owners, they appear to have tried to tempt the out-of-favour 30 year old from Arsenal.

It sounds a bit mad, but in terms of the source our resident tactics columnist Lewis Ambrose who is based in Germany says of Süddeutsche Zeitung, “Reliable newspaper, definitely not the sort to just make stuff up.”

Despite captaining the side in last night’s 2-1 win over Cardiff, all has not been well between Ozil and head coach Unai Emery, and when he was taken off last night there was no interaction between the two men, no handshake or back slap that usually accompanies a player’s departure.

Earlier this month, Emery made it clear to Ozil that it would be best for all parties if he were to leave the club, and you would think that PSG is the kind of club he’d be keen to join in terms of its profile and its ability to cover his salary.

Whether this is something they’ll revisit in the summer we’ll have to just wait and see, and with Arsenal interested in PSG midfielder Christopher Nkunku there might be some crossover in that regard.

In the meantime, Arsenal have completed the loan signing of Denis Suarez from Barcelona who will join until the end of the season.

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Merteslacker
Merteslacker

wow…not sure what to make of this.
If true, seem like the perfect opportunity for Ozil. if he can’t make the first team now, what’s gonna happen when Suarez and Perisic/Carasco joins the field?

SB Still
SB Still

With a better prospect of winning some titles too.

Taking Naymar’s position would be perfect role for Ozil – focus on supplying Mbappe and Cavani, without worrying about putting in a defensive shift for Emery.

It would have freed us some cash too.

kaius
kaius

The assumption here is that Özil is unhappy because he’s not starting every single game.

Despite the rumours and people badmouthing him at every opportunity, Ornstein said the other week Özil has been training hard to get over his physical problems, and Emery still hands him the armband.

And now he’s turned down a move to FC Neymar. Maybe the man just wants to do his best for Arsenal?

atom
atom

@kaius

It’s a bit of an odd one given Ozil has detractors and those who rush to defend him no matter what. Emery appears to have given everyone a clean slate and as long as a player is willing to do what is asked of him, Emery appears to have an open mind (see Lacazette earning his way into the starting lineup or even how much Ramsey is playing despite him leaving at year end).

So we have to assume that for Emery to have told Ozil its best that he leave the club, there is something going on behind the scenes, possibly with Ozil simply not doing (or able to do) what Emery has asked of him.

It really has to be sorted as it doesn’t make sense on our end to have the 2nd highest paid PL player only playing against the small teams while I can’t image he’s happy about reaching a point in his career where his manager is pretty much publicly saying he’s not suited to play against top teams.

Vonnie
Vonnie

Maybe we also have to assume that Emery has a history of being unable to deal with intelligent, creative players. Possibly Emery has the issues, there are no documented instances of Mesut being a troublemaker. If Emery can’t manage to fit our most creative player into the team he’s a poor manager as far as I’m concerned, and I’m starting to think he’s a mistake.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Intelligent players? Like who? Mata? Who calls him The Maestro till this day?
I’m hoping you’re not associating “Intelligent” with partyboy scumbag Neymar as your example?

THEODORE ALEXANDER
THEODORE ALEXANDER

Emery and intelligent…hahaha.You joking right….

PFo
PFo

He meant intelligent on the pitch, obviously. Ozil is obviously that, whether or not his actual IQ is all that great. Mata is apparently intelligent both on and off the pitch, but he’s such a nice guy that he put up with being frequently left out of the side by Mourinho–and all the other typical Jose crap–during the peak years of his career, rather than push for a move to a club that would fully appreciate his considerable (remember, before Jose arrived back and Chelsea and pushed him out of the club, he had been there best player and one of the best in the league; then, in a case of extraordinary bad luck, Mourinho followed him to United!). Point being, just because Mata has glowing things to say about Emery (haven’t seen that interview, but I’m sure you’re right), doesn’t mean Emery’s good with creative types.

kaius
kaius

Emery brought through a slew of creative players during his time at Valencia like David Silva and Mata and then Banega at Sevilla but because he expected Neymar and Özil to track back he has a problem?

Frankly this is Emery’s team now. If he wants to keep creative players on the bench to make us tougher to beat then you lot can whinge about it all you want. But we tried it Wenger’s way and we barely functioned as a team without Özil and Sanchez.

It’s about time we learnt something new and if some of you actually had any patience you’d recognise we’re in a re-learning process that takes time. And learning to play without a pure no.10 means other players like Kolasinac, Bellerin, Ramsey or Iwobi stepping up creatively, which they’ve done brilliantly under Emery and us made us more dangerous offensively.

Judging by the fact that Arsenal are 6th highest goalscoring team in Europe (all competitions counted), Emery is on the right path and deserves backing, not shallow tabloid criticism about his ability to deal with “intelligent players”.

Bould's Eyeliner
Bould's Eyeliner

Thank you! Tactical diversification is something that should bring more out of the entire Arsenal squad, while giving Ozil a regular but occasional break from competitive play (which his footballing brain honestly seems to require).

I bet it’s something about those chameleon eyes and how much information he processes on instinct, to make those passes. Honestly, Ozil never ceases to fascinate me, even if his results aren’t the greatest, simply because he’s such an atypical player. 20 years out of style, still pretty effective in the modern game.

Bould's Eyeliner
Bould's Eyeliner

doesn’t mean Emery’s not good* with creative types.
And yeah the hell does Mourinho know about creativity. He just sits in the shadow of a great player (Drogba, Hazard), and then throws the team under the bus when things don’t go his way.

Teryima Adi
Teryima Adi

Same way Klopp couldn’t cope with Coutinho at Liverpool? I’m curious @Vonnie

Clive
Clive

He is a jackass straight up. He is a another of the knocked in the head managers plaguing modern football such a turn-off from the game. Everybody forgets this guy had issues coaching the most talented player on the planet. When he was appointed to Arsenal I hoped for the best but as someone pointed out elsewhere he has had issues with the star player of every team he has ever coached. I think he’s wasting Arsenal’s time and will be elsewhere in two years.
With about two solid years left to his career at the highest level Ozil should be backing in the glow of his brilliance as one of the best attacking mids to have played the game. Yes, he’s not always shine the brightest against the biggest teams while at Arsenal and for good reasons and simply. When teams with six stars play teams with one world class player its not all that difficult to neutralize that one player by double marking him with all kinds of help defensive zoning him. Stupid people say, ‘Ozil did not show up.again’. Well ! How many other top 6 teams in the Premier League have fewer than 7 players from top 15 FIFA ranked teams? Arsenal has a measly two in attacking positions and sometimes Emery’s inner advisors tell him to play neither. I’ve seen enough of this guy to know he’s fools gold – his 20 game success led him to grossly misjudge the difficulty of the PL, he started drinking his own cool aid and terribly backfired. He is imploding, sabotaging himself, even staggering in the dark now.
Arsenal has not had a world class foil to assist Ozil even minimally since Carzolla’s departure. I watched Arsenal struggle to put three consecutive passes together in Champions League football three years ago. I became a fan of Arsenal just before Ozil arrived and it was a great match for me as Ozil, Gundogan and Rudy where players I identified years ago and saw them enter the German program. Arsenal might have had either of those CM when they were available. Anyone, answer me. How does BVB land Witsel when a club the size of Arsenal needs just that caliber player at that position? There is a systemic wrong at this club and Ozil is a better man than many credit him.

THEODORE ALEXANDER
THEODORE ALEXANDER

Exactly!

Alex I
Alex I

Yeah, you’re not wrong. Give him (Emery) this season and next, and we’ll see what he’s made of. I don’t doubt the man’s talent, but maybe Arsenal are too big for him?

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Bould's Eyeliner

If anything, the professional poise he has held in the face of the ridiculous English tabloid media, coupled with the results he has managed for Arsenal in his first season, there is no reason to be anything but optimistic.

This is the usual Arsenal gooner torches and pitchforks clamour after a lackluster result. Nobody is safe. Everyone needs to go have a damn pint and wait for this season to blow over. While driving traffic here for the Andrews. Up in the Andies.

God bless Edgar Wright.

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Bould's Eyeliner

We’re starting to think that you’re making a mistake with your eyes. In what way is Gendouzi not an intelligent, creative player? Ozil has always been difficult to fit into a team, because he’s the last component. Having a team built around you is a multi-hundred million dollar exercise, and only the top $$$ clubs do it regularly. Arsenal are managing the best they can, if you really look at the financial ley of the football world.

kaius
kaius

Where is the evidence that Emery told Özil it’s best for him to leave? Outside of tabloid rumours, there isn’t any.

Neither has Emery said Özil “isn’t suited to playing against top teams”. What he does is leave him out for “tactical reasons”. And you know what? That’s fine. There was a time when Wenger wanted to play Cazorla and Arteta in midfield away from home but we kept losing games and he eventually had to go with one or the other plus a more combative player like Coquelin or Ramsey.

We’re paying guys like Elneny and Jenkinson 50-100k who barely start but no-one cares about those wages, only Özil’s. It’s ridiculous. At the end of the day, they’re all just squad players and that’s why Emery handles Özil the way he does.

Michael Bolton Wanderers
Michael Bolton Wanderers

Often it has been mentioned how poorly or wage structure is and has been. People have been shaking their heads at this since before bendtner got 52k a week.
We’ve always had average players earning too much, but at the same time, if you exclude Henry, our most valuable players didn’t have insane wages on top of that

kaius
kaius

Özil’s wages aren’t insane. Do you know how much we had to pay Auba as a signing bonus that represented compensation for not being in the CĹ? It was a lump sum of 5m pounds according to Football Leaks.

If we want to discuss football economics, let’s talk about all our high-earners and stop singling out Özil.

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Bould's Eyeliner

5 mil is not much, compared to Ozil’s wages which make that every other month.

It’s not really about economics; it’s more of a fictional contractual demand. The fans have a ‘sense’ of ownership in the team because matchday revenue used to matter. The club needs to represent that ‘sense’ and honor that tradition, because without those fans, they won’t get advertising/sponsorship/TV revenue. Football has become a republic, rather than direct entertainment. We pay money for other people to enjoy the games and tell us how they went.

So, “fans ‘voted’, and Ozil is our lead star–we want success.”

When we don’t have success, the converse is true:

“Ozil sucks.”

We’re just stupid, honestly.

atom
atom

@kaius Ornstein reported that Emery told Ozil it is best if he leaves. Ornstein is regarded by virtually everyone as the gold standard source for Arsenal

kaius
kaius

atom, Ornstein also told us Arteta was the front-runner for the Arsenal job. The gold standard for what Unai Emery says is Unai Emery.

And you don’t tell a player it’s best if you leave and then him the captain’s armband. It just doesn’t happen.

Atom
Atom

Arterta very likely was the front runner until the end. Ornstein is widely regarded as the mouth piece for the club.

Atom
Atom

I would also point out captain at Arsenal tends to mean far less at arsenal than at other clubs. We currently have 5 captains with 1 leaving at year end (Ramsey), 1 a retiring back up goalie and another who has been told its best to leave. Don’t read anything into him bring captain last night, particularly as none of the other 5 started

Reality check
Reality check

Atom
Kos won’t be anywhere close to the first from next year so he might also look to move in the summer. That will leave us with only one regular captain in Xhaka..

Atom
Atom

Agree. Kaius comment that we would never have name a player captain for a game who we’ve told can move on flat out is wrong – see Ramsey. We’ve publicly said there will be no new contract yet he still has captained the side. I get there’s a lot of massive Ozil fans but at the end of the day I support Arsenal and if the manager doesn’t think a player fits the team then I’m not really in the camp of let’s fire the manager then.

kaius
kaius

atom, your inference was that Emery told Özil to leave because he doesn’t need him. What Emery’s actually said is he sees Özil as a valuable part of the squad and wants to find the best way for him to help the team.

You guys are free to believe Ornstein. I’ll go with Emery’s own words.

kaius
kaius

Arteta was never the “front-runner” to be Arsenal coach because it defies all logic. He was on a shortlist, same as Vieira and Henry, but some of you love his Lego hair so you immediately assumed he would be a great coach.

What happened was the club used his name as cover to keep what was actually going on secret and it worked brilliantly. As Gazidis said about that process “those who know don’t speak” but some of you still harbor the fantasy that Arteta was the favourite as if any top-six club would hand such a role to a complete and utter novice.

Atom
Atom

Kauis. You sure seem to know a lot about the inner workings of Arsenal to keep saying Ornstein is wrong about this or that.

What’s not debatable is Ozil right now is a squad player. He doesn’t play in our biggest games regardless of what emery says about him being a valued member of the team etc. I like Ozil but I’m an arsenal fan, not an Ozil fan which is where I disagree with about half the people on this thread. If emery believes our best team going forward doesn’t involve Ozil then I’m not in the camp a lot on here are of just fire emery. Almost no top team plays a true number 10 with no defensive duties and who doesn’t score a lot anymore in European football. And Ozils production the past few years really isn’t that impressive particularly when you consider his absence of defensive duties compared to other top players (Silva, Erickson, debruyne, hazard etc)

kaius
kaius

atom, Ornstein’s not an employee of the club, so he relies on sources, and sources have their own agendas.

He’s a 1000% better at his job than other “Arsenal insiders” like clickbait merchant John Cross. I’m just saying things change fast in football and he can’t be 100% right all the time with Arteta being one example.

And when Unai Emery, an actual club employee, speaks then what he says has more weight than any journalist.

atom
atom

Kaius – do you think from Emery’s actions that Ozil is a key member of the squad? I certainly don’t – he’s never picked for big games anymore. When asked about Ozil’s playing against United Emery simply responded “he played, I can play other players too”.

I don’t know how you can seriously look at this and argue that Ozil somehow is a key member of the squad and all is well.

kaius
kaius

atom – let me put it this way.

You look at Özil and the first thing you see is 350,000 grand a week.

Unai Emery looks at Özil and sees a football player with a distinct set of attributes and deficiencies.

In Emery’s squad, everyone is a team player. If they fit the tactical plan for a particular opponent, they start. If not, they ride the bench. As long as players remove their egos from the equation, there’s no problem in the dressing room. And Özil’s done exactly that so far, which is why Emery still gives him the armband when he starts.

We can either rethink our expectations, or keep seeing problems where none exist.

atom
atom

Kaius

The difference between us and many on this thread is I’m an Arsenal fan – not an Ozil fan. I really don’t care if Ozil plays or not – nor any other player for that matter. Emery clearly has decided that Ozil is not among our best 11 when playing against top teams.

Given we are a club with tight resources it simply doesn’t make sense to have the 2nd highest paid player in the PL as a squad player. His reputation is much larger than his output the past few years.

If Ozil is happy to stay and be a squad player under Emery – then I have no issues. But I would also point out why are a bunch of the comments on here about how we need to fire Emery b/c he’s not starting Ozil etc.

kaius
kaius

We’re all Arsenal fans here. Everyone just wants us to win, people just have different opinions about the best way to do it.

My opinion is – it’s not our primary job as fans to try and micromanage the club’s wage-bill. To me, Özil’s salary is as irrelevant as Guendouzi’s. And it’s clearly irrelevant to Emery, who doesn’t have sole input over who plays for the club anyway. He’s a coach, not an accountant.

Purely in terms of chances created Özil has made 501 since his Premier League debut, so saying his reputation is larger than his output is debatable. Only Eriksen has more (510) and he had a one-season head start.

atom
atom

kaius – there are a lot of people on this thread saying Emery should be fired b/c he isn’t starting Ozil. That’s crossing the line IMO to Ozil over Arsenal.

The past 2 years Ozil isn’t in the top 15 in assists, goals and also lags several players in chances created. That’s damning when you consider:
Ozil is virtually the only #10 in the PL who hasn’t had defensive responsibilities
Ozil also takes a lot of our corners/ free kicks

His contribution has been waning the past several years

Bould's Eyeliner
Bould's Eyeliner

And he’s doing what at where, being rated by whom? Calm down…

NairobiCannon
NairobiCannon

I don’t know, sounds odd not to be able to include a playmaker with some of the best stats across all leagues in Europe. If his method was to use “friction” to get the best out of Ozil and it has not worked(it also did not work for Germany at the worldcup) then maybe the issue is not the player but the handling of the situation and the one doing the handling. And I say this even as a person who is not an “Ozil Fanboy”

Just play your best squad. You could argue he has been doing that by excluding Ozil but then the results beg to differ.

Reality check
Reality check

It also didn’t work with Lucas Moura at PSG.

PFo
PFo

He also apparently didn’t think much of Isco when at Valencia.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

And where do you think a Lucas Moura would fit in a formation that has Neymar, Mbappe, Draxler, Di Maria ….etc all much better than him.

Bould's Eyeliner
Bould's Eyeliner

Pretty sure we want Ozil on the pitch with Perisic and Carrasco on the wings. PRETTY DAMN SURE. Otherwise, what’s the point of having Ozil at all? These are Emery’s acquisitions for Ozil, because he can’t seem to figure out something he likes that suits how to get the best out of Ozil that he wants. It’s very different from Wenger’s plan, and I admire Unai Emery’s patience in building his squad, rather than working with Wenger’s remnant team.

Best results we could have asked for this season, so far, in my opinion.

Rich
Rich

Ozil is a problem we’ll probably be stuck with for a while, I think he’ll likely go to Miami this time next year to sign for Beckham’s franchise.

Football is no longer his priority, and hasn’t been for a long time, he’s been finished as a player for a long time

santori
santori

This is the same sort of fantasy airy fairy perception that prefers to believe Ozil was applauding the fans last game because he is off rather than perhaps he is just acknowledging their support of him.

Dan Hunter
Dan Hunter

Saying it like it is

Tas_Gunner
Tas_Gunner

Open a sooth sayer shop.you’ll make a fortune.”rich the all knowing arse”

Vonnie
Vonnie

You obviously have a very close relationship with him as he has clearly told you what his priorities in life are. Stop talking rubbish, you have no idea what he thinks and you are unable to see what he does.

Jack
Jack

I cannot see Emery playing Ozil much more this season especially with Suarez and potentially another winger coming in, which is a shame because it was great seeing him play again last night.

Archer
Archer

Neither Suarez nor Carrasco are better than Mesut maybe except for their dribbling skills. The mere suggestion that either could replace one of the best no. 10s in football is crazy. I personally want him to stay because we’ve sold too many players who have a connection with the club.

Sancheezy
Sancheezy

Honestly, there are fewer and fewer teams now that play with a classic #10 in their team. Arsenal definitely do not play with a #10 and haven’t for some time now.

PFo
PFo

By “haven’t for some time” you mean “not since the last time Emery played a 4-2-3-1”?

And the whole “most teams don’t play a pure 10 nowadays” comment is
(a) not a clever or remotely original comment
(b) not a good argument for thinking that we shouldn’t still play Mesut at 10. Just because fewer teams are doing it, doesn’t mean they’re right; football goes through trends, just like the rest of society, but those trends are rarely as inevitable as those living through them assume in the moment, and they inevitably come to an end.

Also, if we don’t want to play a 4-2-3-1 against teams who play a proper 3 man midfield, then Mesut *can* play as a wide forward in a 4-3-3 or 3-4-3 as he’s done to good effect in the past; it just doesn’t make any sense to play him wide in a 4-2-3-1, which requires that you stay wider more of the time, but that’s what Emery was trying to do at the beginning of the season.

Archer
Archer

I think he has a happy, stable life in London and he likes playing for Arsenal. He’s not just suddenly gonna move to France you know.

Serpent
Serpent

Oh, for Christ’s sake! Does Özil want to play or not? In Ligue 1, he could probably shine. And he’d play with Neymar eventually. I don’t get it…

Cacho
Cacho

It does seem a little foolish on Özil’s part. Who knows what’s going through his mind though. It could be that he genuinely wants to work his way back into the first team which isn’t impossible. It could be that he’s hoping for Emery to be sacked at some point and maybe a new manager would prefer him. Or he could simply not care and be content to collect his massive wages and watch from the bench. What a sad (beginning of the) end to his Arsenal career. He’s given us some sublime moments and I’ve always liked him.

Orion
Orion

Swap for Nkunku?

I’d rather things worked out with Ozil here, but it doesn’t seem like it’s going to.

santori
santori

So you want to swap for an unproven young player?

Makes a lot of sense.

I’d rather loan them Mhkitaryan.

Orion
Orion

Didn’t say I want to. In fact, I said the opposite. “I’d rather things worked out with Ozil here”

I’m merely bringing up the idea of using a player that management doesn’t seem to want in order to bring in a player with which the club has already been linked.
Lemonade from lemons sort of thing.

Much like the Sanchez for Mkhitaryan swap since you mentioned him. However, I don’t think PSG would be too interested in Mkhitaryan.

Whisht
Whisht

Gosh – its almost as if someone, say, Nkunku’s agent mentioned such an idea to the journalist…

;¬)

Dan
Dan

Why move when you can earn 350k a week for sitting at home or on the bench. He doesnt seem like the type to stand up and prove himself to a new manager (who would like some changes in his play to fit his system) anyway. Hes happy collecting his retirement fund in london, would be too much effort to go to another place and fight for a place as will be expected there (and is at arsenal now which is why his PR is in overdrive).

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

The thing is, the loan didn’t fail because Ozil and Arsenal couldn’t agree on how much of his wages needs to be covered, it didn’t even get that far, he rejected it from the start.

Maybe he doesn’t like a loan as it make him seem like he’s a reject/damages his brand, but not sure I buy that either.

Dan
Dan

Or maybe, just maybe, he doesnt like the prospect of proving himself to someone else because it’s just too much darn work. He chose $350k to do nothing vs $350k to work back up from the start at another place. That was my whole point in the first place.
It took him a massive PR + agent investment to get that weekly wage by taking advantage of arsenals contract mismanagement. I doubt anyone would have paid him that much in normal circumstances.

PFo
PFo

Boy, tell us how you really feel Dan. Sheesh. It never ceases to amaze me how football fans feel entitled to judge the personal character of people that they’ve never met in their life.

It’s yer Da’s ol’ favorite: “that guy’s a fancy pants foreigner who doesn’t want to roll up his sleeves and put in a proper shift” crap. Give it a rest.

Dan
Dan

Lol. In that case the personal character of Hitler, Stalin and Trump are unknown then right?
Or maybe humans judge other humans based on their actions and not just by a personal connection with them.
Jeez you people will go to illogical lengths to defend the guy.

Yankee Gooner
Yankee Gooner

Blogs, for all the accolades this site rightfully earns, no one acknowledges the vast amounts of money your collective readership saves employers, what with everyone lining up to take voluntary pay cuts or outright leaving their jobs if they feel their best effort just isn’t up to someone’s “world class” standards 100% of the time. In these troubling times, this kind of self-denial brings a tear to my eye.

Dan
Dan

Yes, because the CEO of your company puts in the same shift as everyone else and contributes the same value as the regular employee right?
Hes paid the big bucks for a reason. But maybe with your özil blinders on you chose to ignore it. If the CEO’s performance is deemed unsatisfsftory (hes paid the big bucks to earn the company big bucks) he will be moved on. This seems to be a concept you cannot grasp for some reason.

PFo
PFo

And here’s a concept that you seem unable to grasp: that the people in charge of “the company” may be wrong in their assessment that their highest paid employee’s performance is “unsatisfactory”–at least relative to the performances of the other Arsenal players, and of other players we could realistically buy to replace Ozil. Just because Emery doesn’t like him, doesn’t mean Emery’s right.

Personally, I’ve seen little to give me unshakeable faith in Emery’s judgment, and a lot to worry me. No doubt you think Emery’s doing great (he’s getting the players to run around lots, after all), and Ozil’s been trash, when in fact he’s been pretty decent, including on Tuesday. I’d say more about what I think of your impoverished powers of observation, but I shouldn’t be rude.

Dan
Dan

And you’re the judge of “the company” being wrong ?
Just like it’s not enough for a CEO to “not be the worst of the employees” it’s not enough for ozil to be “not the worst”. You do realize with big wages come big responsibility and absolutely nothing ozil has done in the past couple of years makes him deserving of it.
Your entire thinking process and subsequent arguments are centered on the fact that ozil cannot be at fault. Maybe, just maybe, he is.

Tas_Gunner
Tas_Gunner

Questioning a professional players professionalism like this…Do fuck off.cheers 🙂

Dan
Dan

How long will it take for people to realize özil owes the club performances worth $350k a week and not that the club owes him for turning up to train like everyone else (without the special treatment, which is well documented, he recieved under Wenger)?
Özil is employed by Arsenal and not the other way around. Though his powerful PR might give a very different perception.

Bob
Bob

Based on what? By many accounts he’s been working hard to get properly fit and earn his place back in the team. I know he earns a lot, we’ve heard that to death, but in isolation and without tabloid chatter this looks like a player that doesn’t fully have the trust of the manager and a player staying to fight for his place.

What I don’t hear enough is why Emery wouldn’t set up his team to offset Ozil’s obvious weaknesses. Surely when selecting Arsene’s successor they must have asked candidates “We have this player, most valueable asset at the club and sublime on his day, but needs the right conditions to make that day become every match day. How would you, the coach, make this happen?”

Surely the answer to that wasn’t “I’d try to get him to leave”…Right??!

Dan
Dan

Have you considered the possibility that maybe such a system is not possible without enormous resources to buy those types of players?
Your thinking is özil centric when I’m thinking from the point of view of arsenal. Hence you find fault in everyone and everything else but özil.

PFo
PFo

And you only find fault in Ozil. You’re as uncharitable towards him as others are eager to defend him. Maybe your biases are at least as bad as theirs?

Alex
Alex

No one to admit Özil is a fighter who wants to prove his worth despite UE attitude? No one to praise his faithfulness to the club and respect to his contract? No one to say he’s from what we’ve seen better than the newcomer (s) and it’s down to the newcomer(s) to prove his (their worth) and not the opposite? No one to say he loves the badge and is a Gonner? No gratitude? You say Ramsey is a legend but he didn’t sign his contract when offered and leaves… Go figure…

Lanre
Lanre

Thank you

Absolut
Absolut

I do believe that Ozil loves Arsenal and enjoys London life. If he wants to fight for his place and win trophies at Arsenal, how is that bad? Frozen out by Emery, but still wants to stay. Players with his skills are rare. I hope he wins his creative role back and we can get better performances from everyone.

Philip
Philip

Ramsey is no legend he is should have been sold long time ago, he is selfish player and wastes to many changes before he scores in my book good riddens

gee
gee

Ramsey will always be a Legend for scoring the winner that ended our 9 year trophy drought. I don’t care what anyone thinks cause taking shit from other fans during that period was a serious nightmare it was glorious on the day to end that drought. It lifted alot of gloom from the fans and the club and shut the other fans up for a day or 2, until they moved the goal post and it became “100yrs without a prem title, the FA cup is rubbish……..1000 yrs without CL….rinse repeat”. Good luck Rambo thanks for the memories.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Not that I’m claiming him a mercenary or anything, but “respect to his contract” is considerably easier to do when you’re making £350k a week.

Tas_Gunner
Tas_Gunner

We gave him that contract tho?At that point he was (and he still is a great player) our only world class player after sanchez moved on,So we had to do that.If a guys superiors lose it and gives him an astronomical pay rise tomorrow cause he is being head hunted by other clubs and a year later he isn’t actually repaying the astronomical expectation,who the hell will move on “for the good of the company” and lose his job and eventually end up at some hedge farm somewhere working for peanuts? 😯 if so,thats a kind bugger.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

‘our only world class player’
no.

Tas_Gunner
Tas_Gunner

“At that point”.We have Auba and Laca this season is also WC.

Futsboller
Futsboller

Good points, and I always wonder why fans don’t show players the same loyalty those players show the club. I understand taking it out on them when they leave, but all the negativity and armchair criticism when he’s one of the captains of our side? I thought Ozil played rather well last night (nothing too flashy, but making things happen where he could) and if Emery ever sets us up so as to maximize our attacking potential, Ozil will be deadly. That game against Leicester earlier this season – wow.

santori
santori

Too many fans don’t know what they are watching or don’t care to know.

They already decided their opinions on certain players with no real basis set in reality :

Case in point Ozil but also Iwobi whom many like to gripe about when he has last two matches been key to providing critical pass for goals against United and then to Kolasinac which ended in the penalty against Cardiff.

There is a reason why everything good is coming from our left at the moment.

Yet many prefer to imagine he is useless and would want him gone before they want say mediocre Elneny, over the hill Lichsteiner or limited Jenkinson gone.

Also Mustafi. Perception is that he makes mistakes but wait, he wasn’t around when we lost points to BHA, Soton or West Ham so why were we still so poor if Sokratis is the organizing genius he is?

For that matter Granit. Again these same simplistic people would want him sold before we get rid of even less capable players neglecting the fact that he is key to transitioning us quickly with his ability to spot and deliver passes from range,s witching our point of attack from deep.

Nor has his ‘weaknesses’ tackling been supported by recent evidence.

Torreira against BHA, Soton and Liverpool was either robbed or misplaced passes 5 or 6 times, 3 of which directly led to goals against us. But strangely these same voices are quiet.

Bias much?

Facts
Facts

why do ppl always bring up the Leicester game? so what, he never comes up big when it really matters. tbh, jesse lingard has had more great games than ozil, and i hardly watch man u

A.B
A.B

I can see it years to come, “dad tell us about the Leicester game again”, “no son”, “ahh come on, tell us, please!”

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

lol. Sad times for the Ozil brigade.
Tbf he put on shift last night, played with drive. I think he wants to fight for his place for many reasons. Maybe not all are footballing ones.

Emery’s ‘attitude’ with the squad is great. Every player, even fringe players like Jenko get a fair chance to show their worth. The squad seem motivated in every match against every opponent. Regardless of how good or bad the performances are, they are all buying into his ideas and are committed to the system. No doubt about that.

Tas_Gunner
Tas_Gunner

Oooooo…do tell.I hate cliffhangers.What are the other reasons??? 🤔🤔😶😮😮😮

kaius
kaius

Great comment Alex.

I think some of Özil’s tackling and tracking back has been disgraceful at times but he’s responded well to being sidelined and deserves some credit.

food for thought
food for thought

can you imagine the number of goals PSG will score if they have ozil just sitting in the hole and supplying balls to runners in neymar, mbappe and cavani? it’s insane! but he’s rejected the chance to go to PSG. oh well, looks like we’ll just have to loan Mbappe and Cavani from them then.

santori
santori

Can you imagine the number of goals Lacazette and Auba will reap if we can find a way to maximise Ozil in the hole for us?

santori
santori

…food for thought…oh well.

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

He was around last 2 seasons, very much indulged by the former manager, and we were pathetic. There’s nothing to wonder when it comes to Ozil’s performances, we’ve seen the good and the bad. And in recently seasons it was mostly bad.

santori
santori

WATCHING THE MATCH AGAIN, I actually thought Ozil was pretty decent for us against Cardiff.

He moved the ball well and made a couple of excellent feints and back heels to get us going quicker. Also tracked back a number of times to help in defense.

I think he is an asset that Emery has to figure out how best to employ until such time he is sold.

Otherwise his hefty pay package, age and the general perception of his demeanor does not lend itself to too many bidders.

Not sure if we are going to let Ramsey out early to make wage room for one or two loan signings in this Jan but if we do, we may also then need Ozil to stay within the frame of the team.

He offers something different and we will have to tailor to the best solution to get him to optimum level.

As mentioned many times, there is no absolute formation.

4 at the back may work for Chelsea but injuries and tactical issues will dictate what formation should best be employed against say City.

Having ability to go two up top or 4-1-3-2 will require different skill sets to break teams down or exploit weaknesses (cover our own)

In that Ozil is a very good asset to have. Whether he is delivering for price paid on salary if a different matter.

MateKiddleton
MateKiddleton

His turns and half turns on receiving a pass create so much space, no one else on the team does it as well as he does.

Corona X
Corona X

There’s a dude named PIMP in that Twitter conversation. How can anything be taken serious from that screenshot? 😀

Medium_Mozart
Medium_Mozart

Ozil is clearly still a hugely talented footballer, who’s just lost his way at time when we’ve a new manager who, expected to achieve near-miracles with a below par squad, hasn’t the time nor the inclination to indulge him.

Last night’s starting XI couldn’t be described as being anything but a mixture of first team, and fringe players, and it’s hard not to think that Ozil now falls in the latter category.

Had he agreed to go out on loan, at least he would’ve been spared the further ignominy of newspaper headlines and finger pointing.

This is turning out to be a long, sad wind-down to his Arsenal career.

Sue

What a mess!! I don’t want Mesut going anywhere… but I think UE has other ideas..think I’d have more respect for UE if he came out and said Ozil’s crap and isn’t part of my plans for the future. To keep dropping him completely and then play him for an hour or so and give him the captain’s armband is madness!! Ramsey is going yet I think he’s played more!! Sheesh!!

jon

– Mesut, since there seems to be little playing time for you here at Arsenal, maybe you would like to play for the richest club in the world, together with Mbappe, Veratti and Neymar?
– Nope.
– Ok, then. Fancy some chewing gum?

Mpls
Mpls

Or since we’re playing make believe, how about:

‘Mesut, we have a way out of this cesspool of backstabbing supporters- you can live in Paris for a while, play in a quality, winning team that will deliver you a championship trophy, better weather, more tolerant culture. They want you, so they must understand and appreciate the quality you bring to the pitch.’

– “No. I play for the Arsenal. I said I love the Club, and I love London. I will stay here regardless of the shit opinions and coach that doesn’t seem to know how to harness my contributions. I want to work hard and prove myself as a Gunner.”

‘Ok then, fancy some chewing gum?’

Tungor_Adams
Tungor_Adams

He should be desperate for a Loan deal, at a CL club would be jackpot. If he has such possibilities, and still chooses to stay he is not doing that for football reasons, personal pride maybe

Henrypiresberg
Henrypiresberg

Emery is an absolute a**hole. Arsenal is going to achieve nothing with him. We have had this odd wins against Chelsea and City earlier also. One thing I am sure off is, he is going to destroy the Arsenal way of playing by buying too many bulldogs who run thier lungs out all over the field but will never dominate like city or Liverpool. Doesn’t matter how many seasons or players he buys in and sends out.

Dan
Dan

That’s an astute assessment of his style of play and player management. His tactics seem to be reactionary to the opponents rather than foundationally strong.