Emery gets squad to vote for their preferred captains

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Rob Holding has revealed that Unai Emery has put Arsenal’s captaincy to a secret ballot with the players each putting forward their nominations for the positions up for grabs.

The boss has said all summer that he’d like to have a small team who share the role, but up to this point, we’ve assumed it would be he and the coaching staff making the final decisions.

Having delayed the decision until the closing of the second transfer window and then postponing an announcement by another few weeks, we’re expecting the results to be announced imminently.

“We had a vote the other week so we’ll see what happens and see who gets named,” Holding told Goal.com after the 5-0 win over Nottingham Forest.

“[We had to] write names down and then give them to the manager. He will go through them obviously with his input and then we’ll see what happens.

“I don’t know [when the decision will be announced]. I think it will be in the next couple of days, or weeks. I have no idea.

“If I get it, then I’ll be more than happy and honoured to do it.”

As far as we’re aware, this is the first time the captaincy has been decided in this way in the club’s history.

We’ll certainly be interested to see who gets the nod and if anyone gets demoted. Is this a case of Unai passing the buck?

So far this season Granit Xhaka, Nacho Monreal (now departed) and Mesut Ozil have worn the armband with Rob Holding taking over from the latter when he was subbed on Tuesday.

Could Granit (an Emery favourite) and Mesut (not an Emery favourite), who both looked nailed on for the role, miss out? (They probably won’t) If they do, how might it affect their status within the squad?

We’ll find out soon enough.

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jbrusty
jbrusty

Hope Aubameyang gets given the armband. If he has to have five then Lacazette, Holding, Bellerin and Guendouzi would be my other choices to complete the set

Maul Person
Maul Person

Guendouzi? Steady on!

jbrusty
jbrusty

Will be a mainstay of the team for years to come. Showed more leadership on Sunday than most of our players have for years. It’s a little crazy perhaps… but not that crazy

Maul Person
Maul Person

I don’t disagree. I’m just not sure that means he’s captain material NOW. He still has elements of his game (and lesser extent behaviour) that he needs to sort out. But one for the future? He’s definitely up there.

Dastardlydick
Dastardlydick

Guendouzi may be a big talent but he’s still too young and he strops too much around referees.

legrande
legrande

Very weak move from the Manager. Soon players will vote for starting 11?

Maul Person
Maul Person

If it gets Xhaka out of the starting 11 for a bit, that might be the way to go!

Mpls
Mpls

Not so sure- Xhaka has been a respected figure in the dressing room.

The players don’t share the knives out philosophy of some of the support.

RedHotHornBlower
RedHotHornBlower

He’ll hold a referendum first which will screw things up for the next three years at least.

Dave M
Dave M

Maybe an online fan poll to add some more data to the decision making process?

Floppy Gloves
Floppy Gloves

Captain McCappy Face FTW

God is a Gooner
God is a Gooner

Can we let Brussels decide?

Harry Sunderland
Harry Sunderland

Yes but he doesn’t have to actually pick who is most popular. Could be a good way to judge the squads opinion of who should lead them.

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

Maybe they should let the fans vote before each game

Better the Devil You Know
Better the Devil You Know

I like that idea. And starting lineups?? Transfers??

Badaab
Badaab

How dare employees have some say in how their workplace operates! The shame!

Winst
Winst

Can the players also vote to decide on the style of play,tactics and organization? Please?!

Nketibag
Nketibag

Does longevity mean nothing these days? Give it Emi Martinez and be done with it.

Naked Cygan
Naked Cygan

How about the manager grow some balls and pick a capitan?

Canador
Canador

He has none.

Pepeisthere
Pepeisthere

Some cojones you mean

Aaron
Aaron

Those have been shaped into an odd-looking head and placed on Troy Deeney’s shoulders.

myrtle
myrtle

Deeney has a nut sack of a face

lessthanthesumoftheirparts
lessthanthesumoftheirparts

and a face on his nutsack

Dave M
Dave M

and that face on his nut sack also looks like a nutsack

Anonymarse
Anonymarse

Who’s face

Goonslinger
Goonslinger

I like the idea. The players know better than any manager, who they want as captain, and respect enough to lead the team on and off the field. I don’t agree with 5 of them though.

Chilli
Chilli

Sailors won’t do us much good

Professor Gooner
Professor Gooner

As much as I love Auba, not sure he’s 1st captain material. Love the fact that he scores regularly but still think Laca is more effective over 90 mins and galvanises players and fans more consistently.

Also believe the captain shouldn’t be based on a popularity contest but on who brings the team together in the on the porch, dressing room and training ground. Basically a winning mentality accepting no excuses for not going for the top stop!

Charvakan

The players have a very good read on “who brings the team together on the pitch etc.” I like this move of Emery’s.

Kartik Iyer
Kartik Iyer

My preferred 5 would be: Auba, Laca, Leno, Hector & Rob. I’d like hector to be the main captain…since he’s the longest serving out of the bunch.

Djgooner
Djgooner

Big hec for the captaincy

Voice of Reason
Voice of Reason

Not a fan of this. A captain should beca managers spokesperson. These kind of things promote more player power and grouping. And that’s the last thing we need. Can already imagine an Ozil camp and a British camp

gooner
gooner

I get the first point but how do you know the British are United and at odds with a certain group?

Forest gooner
Forest gooner

British are united. Good joke.

Maul Person
Maul Person

The captain also speaks for the team, so who better than someone the team selects. And as suggested from Holding’s quote, Emery will have his say on the submissions so you get the best of both in a sense.

MrTee
MrTee

If the players took this seriously and someone came out with a vast majority of votes could it give Emery a good indication of who the players would actually get behind ?
We’ve missed a captain the players actually play for for a long time, maybe this is a different approach that could get us that again.

SB Still
SB Still

Pep and ManC choose a captain the same way!

Aaron
Aaron

But they play the same even if a squirrel gets elected.

A Different George
A Different George

British camp chooses Bercow. Definitely can make himself heard.

Frank
Frank

Was it a problem when pep did it at city or mourinho in his first stint at chelsea?

AlexanderN
AlexanderN

Bollocks!

Kran Stoenke
Kran Stoenke

People who down voted this probably think its a good idea to let the players pick their captains. Might as well play without a manager and have the players veto who should play each position, formation and everything. Absolute bollocks

Pkub
Pkub

Yeah I guess it didn’t work out well at Man City did it? They might as well play without Pep now?

Red-Sky
Red-Sky

Shhh everyone is here to moan. Let’s not kill the mood by pointing to how the best team in PL are doing the exact same thing.

leroy
leroy

‘unai emery and the seven captains’ would make a nice title for a book. maybe his autobiography? i’m assuming the number of captains goes up to seven after the vote.

SharpasFc
SharpasFc

It sounds more like an Indie band lol

Mpls
Mpls

They always make for a big performance

A Different George
A Different George

They are protagonists in their moments. But also to balance the treble and the bass.

Rich
Rich

Sounds more like a ’60’s swash buckler with Burt Lancaster.

Pakgooner
Pakgooner

intro track’s going to be ‘gud ebening’

Ashburton Red
Ashburton Red

Passing the buck indeed – a bit weak

But perhaps a smart way of bypassing the in-waiting Xhaka and Ozil, and opening up options to Auba, Holding, Bellerin

Interesting to see how this plays out

SharpasFc
SharpasFc

Weak or sensible? I mean obviously it’s a little bit from column A and a little bit from column B. A lot has happened recently, not least the big bust up in the dressing room after the Watford debacle and maybe that helped the decision to allow the players to choose who they want to follow on the pitch. Sunday wouldn’t have happened in my opinion if some of the players hadn’t decided they weren’t going to lose and especially at home to a newly promoted team. If we start seeing some real leadership on the pitch then that can only be for the best.

Ashburton Red
Ashburton Red

maybe – it’s very welcome to see players taking responsibility for the situation on the pitch, irrespective of an armband – just not sure if off the pitch it should be the case. History shows that nearly every successful set of players are self-motivating/a team full of captains, but also always, always have a strong decisive manager

backsakacrack
backsakacrack

I agree on Auba, but I do wonder what the extra pressure of being a captain entails. I know he has the armband for Gabon, but I wouldn’t mind him just continuing to focus on putting the ball in the net.

Public Elneny
Public Elneny

I think you’re right, no need to jeopardise a good thing. Being captain led to a drop off in form for both Henry and Fabregas if I remember correctly

The leaders in the team will continue to be leaders in all the ways that matter regardless of whether they have to perform this ‘face of the club’ bollocks role

I think Emery is mainly just scared of the fan backlash he’ll get if he gives it to Xhaka

Kolkata_Gooner
Kolkata_Gooner

I’m feel really cynical about this. For example, will senior players like Ozil, Xhaka, Luiz vote for someone young like Holding? And what if someone gets very few votes, what will that do for their mentality in the dressing room? 😐 Does feel a bit like Emery doesn’t want to make Xhaka one of the captains, because logically he knows he shouldn’t be the first player in the team, but he’s not authoritative enough to tell him that! So he’s letting the players decide. Very weird move.

SharpasFc
SharpasFc

It’s a secret ballot

Dave M
Dave M

A double blind peer review

Atom
Atom

Emery appears to rate Xhaka much more highly than the fans do

Mpls
Mpls

So do the players and so did Wenger. Fans never have to answer for their actions or lack of understanding.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

That doesn’t mean the fans are wrong though!

Dave M
Dave M

And xhaka has been doing a great job at proving the fans right over all these years at arsenal. Wenger thought he was a DM… Turns out he wasnt, emery and Wenger think he is the answer to control epl midfields… Turns out he’s not. Please, show me the evidence that we have moved forward with xhaka as the key piece in our midfield.

Mpls
Mpls

Hey man, never said we did.

Dave M
Dave M

There is one thing for sure about Xhaka – he must be a pretty good character and a good guy. Everyone likes him. I mean that has always been an art-form in getting ahead in life. Get people to like and you convince them your important through your words rather than actions. This isn’t the first time it has worked for someone!

Jeremy
Jeremy

This man is so weak. Just make a decision and give it to one person (Lacazette or Auba) for crying out loud.

N10
N10

I completely agree.

Frank
Frank

Is pep weak cos he did the same thing

MrTee
MrTee

Arsenal’s own mini Brexit. Hopefully they’re not as dumb as UK voters.

Andy
Andy

…. in your opinion

Jim
Jim

Arsenal is a haven from politics, for me, please let’s keep it that way!

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

The thing about average intelligence is that half pf all people are above it and half are below. I’ll leave it up to you which group of voters are which.

😉

Kano Gooner

The manager doesn’t want to take responsibility, which does not portray him or the club good.

beNZed

This is great, now we’ll (presumably, if they don5 vite for Mesut and Unai vetoes it!) end up with a captain the playing squad respects and likes and the conversation can be put to bed finally and something more important focused upon, instead.

Kran Stoenke
Kran Stoenke

Can you lot go a day without smack talking ozil? He’s tried his best whenever he came on to play for the shirt, decided to join us from Madrid when a lot of huge clubs were after him, to provide for the likes of giroud and welbeck ffs. There’s always a place to criticise.

Public Elneny
Public Elneny

Can you go a day without slagging off Giroud and Welbeck?!

Ozzzil
Ozzzil

Tried his best.

Never tackles and lazy pressing.

Ed R
Ed R

I’d give it to Holding. He’s got to be a regular starter going into the rest of the season.

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

Lacazette would be my vote hands down followed by auba amd then holding. Laca for me leads by example the most when others are underperforming.

Redsy
Redsy

I think we should get tgem to bote who plays against utd the weekend also this could finaly be the way forward

gooner
gooner

Avoiding responsibility. Would be fun if they voted the kids breaking through. Then we see if he endorses Martinelli, Saka, Willock, ESR and Nelson as his captains

bob
bob

I’d love it if the whole team voted for a player out on loan or something like that, or went all in on Gunnersaurus. Now that’s a captain 🙂

J to the C
J to the C

Could Emery be passing the buck here to avoid additional scrutiny if he had selects Xhaxa….which looks like he would have?

Ya gooner
Ya gooner

We should make xhaka captain only to break the captain leaving curse as no one else wants him.

Arctic Marauder
Arctic Marauder

He’s not passing the buck if he has a secret vote to get the players honest private opinion, and then makes a public decision himself.

Also judging by what people here are writing there is noone who stands out as a clear cut captain. Emery probably has ideas, but I like him gathering information from the most reliable source in this topic, the players. I think it’s on par with current management philosophies as well, in other work life, to both base decisions on knowledge rather than ego, and use employee participation to create self drive and motivation.

ChrisM
ChrisM

Thank you everyone, the votes are in and Arsenals new captain is…. Glenn Helder?! Seriously you guys.

I do not think players should vote a captain in. I feel a captain should instil a team ethos unto players, not players instilling an ethos unto a team.

Mpls
Mpls

But with a secret vote when the captains are selected there is the sense of having the support of both your managers and your fellow players.

I don’t necessarily think it’s always the best way, but I see some of the logic.

Oregoon

And somewhere along the line the players are made part of the process and just not told “and your captain is”. Part of the process means some responsibility for the outcome, with the goal of more togetherness? Trying to be positive any decision, but it really seems to be dragging on.

chepetin
chepetin

This whole topic reminds me of those Captain Morgan ads where everyone says “Captain” to each other at the front door.

Elbon
Elbon

Aubameyang, Ozil, Xhaka, Holding, Bellerin.

Kolkata_Gooner
Kolkata_Gooner

Ozil is not a captain type, sorry.

Alex
Alex

Only the players can tell.

Andy
Andy

This is getting embarrassing. Just name a fucking captain and vice captain, man. Or perhaps the other 19 teams have got it wrong.

readyfreddie
readyfreddie

The final decision lies with the manager. This is an exercise in understanding how the group of players feel. Knowledge is power. Pls choose Rob Holding!!!

Berlingoon
Berlingoon

If he’d done this in his first season when he barely knew the team I’d have understand that. But he’s here for 15 months now and if he doesn’t know who’s respected within the team and who would do a good job as a captain, I seriously doubt his ability to assess people and even more his ability to make decisions that are maybe a bit unpopular within the fan base. It’s quite embarrassing, if you ask me.

SharpasFc
SharpasFc

I just had this thought that perhaps Emery has got the players to decide who are the captains because their contracts are longer than his and he knows they will be at the club after he has left…I mean it’s a thought albeit a weird one.

Maul Person
Maul Person

With what looks like a clear dislike of Ozil, what if he’s one of the top names? But then, how would anyone know unless he goes through the names with the team.

While it is nice for the team to select their leader, this is a bit odd by Unai. As others have said, he’s not taking responsibility. And of course, 5 captains anyway is dumb. As long as Auba and Holding are on that list and Xhaka isn’t, I’ll be alright.

jw1
jw1

Captain Morgan at this rate.🏴‍☠️

A P
A P

This is a cop-out…by a head coach hire who is afraid of a team mutiny if he proceeds with his own choice of a captain.

Lesster
Lesster

The only thing it tells me is that Emery, as most of us, reckons a lack of leadership in this team. And that he is trying to make more players feel responsible for the group.

As long as they deliver on the pitch, I could not care less about this discussion. There is only one armband anyway.

Chan
Chan

Plot twist: Ozil gets the most vote

Would be funny to see Emery’s reaction if that happens

MidfieldBite
MidfieldBite

It’s a clever way for the manager to distance himself from the inevitable backlash when he decides to appoint his favourite, Xhaka.

Weak leadership from Emery, the captaincy should of course be somebody that the majority respect, but the head coach must decide this.

Alot of Emery’s decisions seem to be borne out not wanting to commit too far either way and ultimately fear (the tactics are neither attacking nor defensively sound and not many can see a distinctive pattern of play). I don’t know what he has to fear though, his contract won’t be extended if he continues like that.

baz00r
baz00r

Seriously just choose a fucking captain like every other manager. This whole saga and process is ridiculous. What are they in fucking high school or something?

Jim
Jim

I support Arsenal partly because they’re not like any other club, in my opinion. Emery has been picking the managers – we’re still lacking leadership. Seems to me that he’s giving the responsibility to the players… who will they listen to? Shrewd move I think.

Jim
Jim

That should read, ‘Emery has been picking the captains’, of course

St.macca
St.macca

All seems a bit Sunday league to me, the whole 5 captains thing is pretty stupid just appoint a captain and vice captain, how hard can it be, he has made an issue out of something when there is no need.

Forest gooner
Forest gooner

Auba Leno Laca Hector and Papa

bob
bob

For christ sake Emery, have a backbone and make a bloody decision yourself. This isn’t the Oscars!

The captain should be the player who can most readily communicate the game plan of the coach to the rest of the team during the middle of a game, and can do so in such a way that he is listened to. The coach should therefore pick this player as he needs to be able to trust this to his captain, and the link between them is important.

This sort of shit might have been fine if that how he was going to play it from day one, and then just voted and did it. But now, after the circus around it, just stinks of him being weak and passing the buck to the players.

At least the good news is, judging from the Villa match, that the players seem to do a hell of a lot better when they aren’t being confusingly dictated to by this coach.

Dawdler
Dawdler

Popularity contests are often good for team moral, establishing unity, healthy merit-based incentive, and authority….

backsakacrack
backsakacrack

I hope this is sarcasm

Kentish Gooner
Kentish Gooner

This is a pathetic decision by Emery. The man has no balls.

Pakgooner
Pakgooner

No balls? Then a woman perhaps? 5 captains means he’s very complicated. So are women……

Dekker
Dekker

Bit daft this. What if Ozil, Kolasinac and Xhaka are three of the most voted players? With Tierney coming in and a more youthful midfield, none of those three are guaranteed starters? Will Emery hold another secret ballot for another 5 vice captains too?

It is such a weak move by Emery.

Dave
Dave

Emery out

goonero
goonero

My guess, there’s a few cliques at Arsenal and obviously each one has their main men. Not to say they don’t all just get on with each other anyway, but that’s just how things go.

Auba and Laca will be top as they’re big favourites of the French group and everyone else in general.

Bellerin will be right up there as the longest serving Spaniard.

Chambers and Holding are well regarded by the English lads so they will have a fair share of votes too.

If everyone’s allowed 5 votes you’d expect guys like Luiz and Ozil and Xhaka to still pick up a few votes given they’re the elder statesmen and may be seen as good role models…or something like that.

But I see the 5 most popular being Auba, Laca, Bellerin, Holding, Chambers.

If Granit Xhaka still gets the armband I’ll eat a shoe.

Geefive
Geefive

What a cop out. I think this proves there is no stand out leader amongst the team. No one that wants to reach out, and grab that armband (except maybe Xhaka, and, well, Nooooo). No powerful voice to direct and guide the lads in a strong manner, including the coach. Sigh…

Me So Hornsey
Me So Hornsey

Was I the only one looking for the parody typefont whilst reading this?

OneBeatOff
OneBeatOff

Call me old fashioned or anything you like but this is ridiculous .

PatJ
PatJ

If choosing a captain is causing headache for months and can’t be solved without a general election amongst players, how are bigger issues (if any) going to be solved?

GraeB
GraeB

I know we don’t want political comparisons, but this is just so British at the moment. We have a PM (coach) who couldn’t manage the question himself, so had a vote and we’re now delaying any action because someone didn’t like the answer.

Question is, do they offer the general election first or replay the referendum? In the meantime we wave goodbye to European Champions League.

Just appoint a Captain now! Odds are he’ll be gone by next season anyway.

Maul Person
Maul Person

So what is “just appoint a captain” in your analogy…?

GraeB
GraeB

New Speaker maybe?

bob
bob

I think it would be even more apt, if there is essentially a split in vote between all of the players chosen as captains. Then if Emery takes 3 years to give them the armband, at which point many of those who voted have changed their mind, the candidates have left the team or got injured, and we changed manager twice. And at which point, those who voted just wish the manager would have got on with doing what is meant to be his expertise in the first place 😉

Skinnyarse
Skinnyarse

Who has the balls? Who has the grit? who’s the most vocal in the dressing room? and on the pitch? Who has a bit of a naughty streak? Who can control a game and change the tempo at will? I wish Torriera was a big lad and spoke better English, I wish David luiz wasn’t such a clown 😞

Oregoon

Lacazette.

Nate
Nate

I think we should wait until May to determine who are captain was.

N10
N10

People have differing opinions on this, but I think it’s naff to poll players on who their captain should be. You’re the coach, you decide. To me it shows he’s not in tune with his guys.

goonero
goonero

You’d like your manager to be able to spot that character himself ideally but seeing as his leading choices are either named Xhaka or Ozil or have left the club this makes sense. The captain should be the most respected one amongst the group. And it’s not like these are kids picking buddies for a school project, you’d expect most if not everyone to nominate who they think earns/deserves the role.

I imagine having experienced captains like Arteta, Mertesacker and Koscielny and other leaders like Ramsey and Monreal and Cech around the club in recent years, most players know exactly the kind of character they’d like.

OhRockyRocky
OhRockyRocky

Liverpool did the same thing didn’t they? Squad vote for one of their captains? Makes sense to me if it’s who the squad feels is the leader?

Haybe
Haybe

This nonsense democratization of everything is not needed at the club. The coach knows his players and needs to select the one he knows will serve the interests of the team on and off the pitch.

We really missed a good captain since William Gallas days ffs

bob
bob

Not gonna lie, you have me in the first half. Started laughing when you mentioned Gallas as a good captain though!

A Gorilla
A Gorilla

Fucking referendum, again! The universe is stuck on loop loop loop loop code:error

Beebop
Beebop

I don’t see anything to suggest the player’s will get the final say on this. It’s a secret ballot and Holding even acknowledges Emery will “obviously” have his own input. I reckon it’s just a useful way to gauge opinion. An opinion poll, not an election. Maybe he’s 50/50 about two players… better this than toss a coin

Ron
Ron

An “advisory” vote, then?

Okester
Okester

I see this going badly. An anonymous voting system where each player thinks he’s the only one who’s had the funny idea to vote for Mustafi. Next thing you know he’s won by a landslide and Emery has to answer awkward questions as to why his Captain is not in the team (Just cut and paste the ones he uses for Ozil and should be okay)!

bob
bob

Even more awkward if they use the anonymous system to vote for “Emery out” as captain.

Billy
Billy

This guy is just a waffle! Ooo I can’t decide… ooo what if I get it wrong? They are going to get mad at me! Gawd

Heavyblinker
Heavyblinker

Guendouzi should be one of the captains. He has the spirit, self confidence, hunger and attitude. His role on the pitch is to connect up the play and he has no fear taking on responsibility. Yes he makes mistakes and he’s very young. TA was too when he became captain.