Thursday, February 22, 2024

Report: Jorginho a deadline day option for Arsenal

According to The Athletic’s David Ornstein, Arsenal are one of a number of clubs weighing up a deadline day move for Chelsea midfielder Jorginho.

The Gunners have spent the best part of a week trying to persuade Brighton to part ways with Moises Caicedo but with Seagulls chairman Tony Bloom flat-out refusing to do business it looks as though Mikel Arteta and Edu are weighing up contingency options.

Arsenal feel it’s a matter of urgency that the centre of the park is strengthened with concerns growing that Mohamed Elneny could miss a considerable chunk of the run-in due to a knee injury.

While the rib issue sustained by Thomas Partey at Manchester City on Friday night isn’t thought to be serious, the fact the Ghanaian only has Sambi Lokonga as competition is far from ideal with so many matches on the horizon.

This is not the first time that Jorginho has been linked with Arsenal. We were heavily linked with the Italy international in September 2020 before Partey was recruited from Atletico Madrid. Then, as now, many Gooners were snooty about the prospect of signing the midfielder.

On that occasion the Brazil-born player ended the season winning the Champions League with Chelsea and European Championships with Italy; he was selected in the team of the tournament on both occasions.

The 31-year-old moved to Stamford Bridge from Napoli for €57 million in 2018 and has six months left on his contract; in theory, he should be available for a fraction of the price we’ve been looking to pay for Caicedo.

Having embarked on a wild spending spree, the Blues are open to Jorginho leaving although you suspect Todd Boehly won’t make it easy for us if we decide this is the best option.

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Badaab

no more old cunts from chelsea

Johnny 4 Hats

I’m so massively a fan of Edu and all his work to date.

But this, as it stands, is a fuck up.

He’s had six months to get us a DM. Chasing Douglas Luiz on the last day of the summer window was embarrassing enough. And now here we are again.

Yes, I know there are injuries. Yes, I know we are top of the league. Yes, I think Edu is doing a really good job.

But what else can you call this but an embarrassment for a club that have ambitions to win the league.

Alan Sunderland

That’s an embarrassing take. jorginho is a very good experienced player, a lot better than elneny or lokonga. edu can’t kidnap caceido, he bid a lot more money than what he’s worth if Brighton don’t want to sell he can’t make them. you’re the same lad that was complaining about jesus when we 1st bid for him.

Johnny 4 Hats

As regards Jesus, I didn’t understand the talent ID because up until then we had gone for big strikers. But well remembered. I’m glad my opinions live long in the minds of other posters on here. Jorginho is a 31 year old who is going to take a place in the squad for the next year and half at least. And the wages will be astronomical. And if it is only a six month deal, then will he really be as hungry as the rest of the squad? Partey is 29 and Xhaka 30. We really don’t need any more… Read more »

Ben

I couldn’t care less if he takes up a squad space for a year and a half if he contributes this season and we win the league. Not my first choice but a winner, has premier league experience and cheap.

Qwaliteee

Yeah.

You all said that about Willian in August 2020.

And I warned you all then that he was an over the hill sack of shit.

History repeats itself……

ben

It’s a different scenario. We have a chance to win the league and seemingly very few other options. That wasn’t the case with Willian. I’m not saying it’s I like the signing, I’m saying if he contributes and we win the league, the fee and contact length become irrelevant and it can be deemed a success, even if it’s not a likable transfer

Alan Sunderland

that makes less sense than the 1st post.

Giuseppe Hovno

I love the idea of Johnny 4 Hats living inside the head of (the real) Alan Sunderland

Alan Sunderland

it was easy to remember he posted it non stop for a month. I also remember the fat man doesn’t rate Eddie, he’s posted it enough times. maybe some people have bigger brains and can retain a lot more information than others.

Johnny 4 Hats

https://arseblog.news/2022/04/report-arsenal-targeting-gabriel-jesus/#comment-1404029

Ah mate. We had a lovely chat back then. Very cordial. Sorry you came away with it with a sour taste in your mouth.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

Fascinating reading those comments about Jesus and then realizing some of you know what your talking about and others haven’t got a clue. J4Hats showed some ability to have an open mind. Alan Sunderland, spot on.

Johnny 4 Hats

Nah, just some guy on here who seems to be broiling with umbrage over something I said about 9 months ago.

Anyway, I’m obviously in the minority here so I’ll shut up and see how everything progresses.

Still feel quietly confident about Caicedo. And if it’s Jorginho then he’ll be a gooner and I’ll support him.

But I’ll be disappointed. Because I believe we needed a really strong January window to sustain our amazing start to the season.

And I don’t think we get it with Jorginho.

Johnny 4 Hats

I would just add, if you want a barometer on how this is playing outside of the arsenal world, just go on twitter and check any Chelsea fan account.

They are laughing their arses off at us.

Jackie's Willy

Fans thought Martinez was a better player than Zinny. Y’all need to rest it.

Fabulous

If Chelsea fans laughing at you makes you think this is a bad signing then you need to grow tf up. Chelsea fans don’t know sh*t. I’d trust Arteta’s judgment for now – given the circumstances I think this is an astute signing. Let’s see how it pans out.

Man Manny

This is not all we’d do, is ìt? Add Trossard and Kiwior and it doesn’t look bad, all things considered.
We already have a very good team: 16W, 2D and 1L, attest to that.
Injuries have been kind so far, and it could well continue till the end. Even if it doesn’t, we now have sufficient cover in attack, midfield and defence.
City has just lost Cancelo to Bayern. Analysts say Pep is left with only 19 outfield players, and that includes two youngsters.
Let the second half battle begin!

Ebo

We need someone to cover Partey and Xhaka right now, someone ideally with experience at the highest levels and at winning trophies, he 100% fits the bill and we don’t need to break the bank for him. You won’t find much better than that in the January window, that’s just the nature of this window. We do this now, then we get Rice and/or Caicedo in the summer or else we have all the time in the world to find our midfielder of the future at that point when there are tons more available. In the meantime this is a… Read more »

Johnny 4 Hats

But it’s not just a cover position.

We have a lot of games coming up. Whoever we sign will play a lot of football. Important games too.

Qwaliteee

It’s a shame isn’t it?

You feel like Chief Brody trying to warn the idiots on the beach about the impending shark attacks.

Mindless ignorance abounds.

Guns Up

Barring an injury, which I hate even typing, I don’t really think that’s true. Xhaka and Partey will start every PL game for which they’re available, as long as there’s still a good chance of winning the league. That leaves a maximum of seven EL games, and I imagine the regulars will start those too, from quarterfinals on. The more likely rotation is Trossard and hopefully ESR giving Martinelli and Saka a rest. I see Jorginho as an insurance policy and picture him coming on for 10-15 minutes to keep legs fresh otherwise. If we’re forcing ourselves to compare with… Read more »

wrightstuff8

I agree Ebo. It’s the right sort of money and he knows how to win. At this stage of the window I think it’s good to recruit someone with know how.

Arsenalista

I agree, why are we not in for Tielemans? I’d rather him than the Chelsea bloke.

loose_cannon

Probably because he’s not a DM? Then again, would it be crazy to get him and make Xhaka our Partey cover? Now that I’ve said that, I can see the appeal of Jorginho!

Qwaliteee

Too late pal.

The filthy dirty deed is being done as we speak…..

Qwaliteee

What’s embarrassing mate is Arsenal scraping the bottom of the barrel for yet another Chelsea Has Been.

What’s even more embarrassing is people like you making apologies for it.

Do us all a favour and see this for what it truly is. A desperate shit show.

Sten

This from the guy who moaned about Ozil’s mistreatment for months before he left. Disqualifies you from any discussion about player recruitment in my book.

Qwaliteee

Really?

And what about Ozil’s replacement, the one and only Willian….?

How did that work out then, smart arse….?

Honestly. Some of you on here…

Sten

Bring back Ozil! 😂😂

Qwaliteee

Yeah. Will you still be laughing when Partey picks up an injury and our title challenge ends?

Probably.

Sten

So you do want to bring back Ozil?

Man Manny

Are you making plans to injure him? He’s been largely fit so far; is it out of the realm of possibility for that to go all season? Ironically, that might be why Jorginho is here. 10 minutes here, 15 minutes there, EL football here, second rate EPL team there, and Partey gets his rest.

Foggy

Um yes we didn’t score from open play for about 7 hours and went down to 15th all with an Ozil sized gap at number 10. Willian was supposed to take Ozils place. No proper reasons given. It was fair to complain.

Mayor McCheese

Or, a stop-gap to cover for the Elneny injury so that we can get Rice in the summer. I never quite believed that Arsenal would be able to finance both Caicedo AND Rice, and for me, anyway, the latter is the better player, and who is also ungettable in Jan. But my word, Chelsea are spending a TON of money this window. Mudryk, Fernandes, and possibly Caicedo? They’re almost at the £300m mark!

Qwaliteee

If we can’t get Mudryk or Caicedo over the line, you can forget about Declan Rice mate.

We’ve more chance of signing Anneka Rice.

Danny

Why the negativity? We’re top of the league mate, and jorginho is a handy squad player. It’s a lot easier to sign players like Rice when you’re flying high like we are. Trust the process.

A Different George

After the Euros, Jorginho was seen as a serious candidate for the Ballon d’Or–that always seemed a stretch to me. But not as much of a stretch as Lokkonga or (as much I like him) Elneny.

Alan Sunderland

he’s a good player on a loan as cover I don’t see how that’s embarrassing. he’s a better player than sambi or elneny.

I.wright

I know, right? Different owner, same strategy. It’s crazy to think they also spent 100 million on Lukaku, which appears to have been written off. I know as a fan you want to see your team win, but I wouldn’t want it by spending such obscene amounts of money – kinda kills it for me

AusGunner

We are spending obscene amounts of money though.
I’m not really complaining about that fact, it is what it is, though I hope the grotesque English football market implodes one day.
But Arsenal fans acting like their club are paupers (or like Kroenke/Walton money is unproblematic compared to gulf state money – which is a completely bullshit position) when in fact we’re the 10th richest club in the world and throwing huge amounts of money at transfers is kinda surreal.

Lakshya

We’ve substantially reduced our wage bill. We’re letting go of our first targets in multiple cases because we can’t get them (Lisandro M, Vlahovic, Kounde, Raya), which shows a prudent approach, one with limits. Our spending is in line with what the market asks for at a minimum from big English clubs. So no, I wouldn’t say we’re ‘spending obscene amounts’. Yes, I agree we’ve spent/invested significantly, but smartly and within limits, and got an outsized return on that investment as well, as it stands currently.

wrightstuff8

100% – very well put. I like this model, it feels sensible and sustainable. Think Jan signings have been measured. Elneney injury couldn’t have been forecast which is why Jorginiho isnt the perfect signing but a very capable body which will allow us to push for Rice or whoever we want in the summer

Qwaliteee

Exactly.

The money is THERE.

Edu can’t negotiate for toffee.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

I liked the positive Q better. At this late stage in the window, this is a cover replacement, break glass if needed. I have questions about our negotiation strategy, identifying targets we can’t land but it’s hard when Chel$ea are always waiting in the wings with more money for the player’s salary. We are first in the league, two big games against City coming up, we need a warm body. Not an exciting signing but neither was Trossard. Club in a difficult position right now. Let’s see what happens at the end of the day.

Suci

dude… are you really an arsenal fan? we’re top of the league and you’re here crying about a 10M outlay on a cover player. Jorginho isn’t replacing anyone. He’s providing cover. We need numbers, numbers better than Lokonga. What’s wrong with some of you guys. We’re in with a shout after a decade and here you are spewing hate on Edu of all ppl.

s.p2

It’s going to be a permanent deal apparently…

Johnny 4 Hats

Thing is, he’s not cover.

Thomas Partey cannot and will not be able to play 3 games a week.

Our CM signing is going to play a lot of football. And an immobile 8 who’s never really played as a true 6 isn’t my idea of a great option.

Suci

He is cover. Just as Elneny and Lokonga were. You’re just nitpicking for the sake of argument. If he joins, I hope he does well. From an Arsenal fan of 30 years.

Qwaliteee

Sambi and an injured Elneny.

That is one extremely low bar.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

Ha, it’s the state of it mate. Old Chelsea players are the worst, but here’s where we are.

Nofuture

I remember when AC Milan let Pirlo go to Juve. He was “old, slow and spent”, how did that turned out to Juventus?

Badaab

jorginho also costs more than both elneny and lokonga and is over 30.
we’ve been down this road THREE TIMES ALREADY with old cunts from chelsea and none of them were beneficial to us.

Johnny 4 Hats

Exactly this.

We are well and truly in the bargain bin here.

And why? We have a lot of money and are a very desirable destination.

I’m just amazed we didn’t have a better back up plan when Caicedo looked like such a tricky transfer from the get go (which was 4 days before the end of a month long window).

TexasRed

You don’t have any fecking idea what discussions and plans Arteta, Edu have had or will have. They have gotten us to top of the league, playing the best football in the world. And yet you act like you know everything and confidently state they are fools. You are amazed huh? You are also a lot of other things I won’t mention.

Qwaliteee

TexasRed.

Haven’t seen you on here before, partner?

And if Partey picks up an injury and the title bid goes moseying, I’m fairly sure we won’t see ‘round these parts again.

Have a nice day now.

Suci

How old are you mate? You get pretty personal with people quite fast…

TexasRed

I’ve been here for a long time. Don’t usually comment, but the things you and 4 hats have been saying about the club regarding this transfer, and the arrogance with which you have said them were uncalled for.

Johnny 4 Hats

I think this sort of response is unnecessarily aggressive and not in keeping with the ethos of this site.

So I’ll politely ignore it.

Have a great day mate.

Danny

Politely ignore it by responding that you’re politely ignoring it is not politely ignoring it.

TexasRed

Opinions are one thing, but look at the words Tee is using to describe the club and other fans who disagree with him. Your ok with that? I’m not.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

We could likely get a young unproven prospect but they offer no value to the run in. Hard to get good players in Jan unless they are close to out of contract or have fallen out at their club a la Trossard. I too am disappointed but hard to find PL ready 6’s on the shelf.

djourou's nutmeg

if petr cech or david luiz are old cunts, i wanna be an old cunt mate. they were really comitted to the club and the later got his fair share of stick for defending our badge. im not asking you to build a statue just have some respect for them, its really unnecesary to call them that

Ebo

Cech wasn’t beneficial to us when he first arrived? Yossi Benayoun neither? Seems like pretty selective memory. He just turned 31 a month ago, not exactly geriatric by footballing standards, he’s probably got at least 1-2 very good years and that’s all we need from him, especially given how little he will cost compared to our other big name targets.

Badaab

he’s slow, expensive, and doesn’t work hard enough to fit into our existing system. we’d be better off bringing patino back from loan

Alan Sunderland

watch a bit of football mate,he’s a good player. sambi and elneny not so much, they spend more time running away from the ball than looking for it.

Qwaliteee

Yeah, we get the hard sell bit.

Are you his agent?

s.p2

Sorry, a permanent 2-year deal is not great by any stretch. We already have two midfielders pushing their 30s… Johnny 4 Hat’s comments is perfectly legitimate even if it’s not in the tone some would prefer.

Alan Sunderland

stop with the think of the children shit, it’s the next 4 months that matter.

Man Manny

Every comment here is legitimate.

Qwaliteee

Top post J4H.

This situation is utterly embarrassing.

Johnny 4 Hats

People become so binary.

Now the club is doing so well, fans can’t possibly entertain the idea that we have acted poorly or a transfer is underwhelming and short sighted.

We can only have heroes and villains. Edu is a hero. So we must not question anything.

djourou's nutmeg

thing is johnny, you may be unsatisfied with the outcome of the transfer window, but how can you say we acted poorly? do you know anything at all about arsenal’s transfer plans short, mid or long term? have you been in any of the discussions with any of the players we’ve suposedly talked to? or know the team’s needs as deep as those involved? i suspect not, so if we end up having to buy one of the most creative players in the league in trossard and a guy who was one best defensive midfielders last season and captain of… Read more »

Qwaliteee

It’s Willian 2.0

An over the hill has-been.

Seriously, words fail me.

An injury to Partey and we are fucked.

s.p2

You’re actually spot on. People are weird.

Qwaliteee

Not so much weird as ignorant and naive.

Thick.

Suci

I believe he was talking about you qwaliteeeeeeee

Guns Up

While I agree with your point here, I also think you’ve gone a bit far to one side yourself. My uneducated opinion is that management had every intention of seeing out the season with Elneny as backup to Partey (and even possibly using Zinchenko there and Tierney at LB in a pinch). Elneny’s fresh injury forced their hand, they’ve acted accordingly, and all has not gone smoothly in a tough window. These things are fluid and also interconnected between clubs, so decisions have to made on the fly even if you have plans A, B, C, D and E, because… Read more »

78/79/80

If that’s the case Guns Up then that is a really big worry. With Elneny and Partey’s injury records and Lokonga’s showings thus far. Obviously none of us have any idea what goes on behind the scenes. But it does feel like there has been some naivety here on the part of Edu/Vinai. Got bamboozled by the Mudryk thing badly. Lost sight of other important things. And I can give them slack for this. Like the squad they are young in experience in these “games”. Hopefully they have learned hard lessons. The Jorginho thing makes me feel physically sick. I’m… Read more »

A Different George

It’s not that Edu is a hero, it is that he has had great recent success at doing precisely the thing you are worried about, identifying and bringing in players who make Arsenal better. You might be right to be worried but, all else being equal, there is a better chance that Edu is right.

TexasRed

No, it’s the idea that you know better than them, and that you are so arrogantly certain of it, that we can’t entertain.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

This.

Typical tantrums

You need to understand, Jorginho is probably a stop gap solution, we might go for a better solution at end of the season. Right now our priority is to get the team over the line, with a replacement for md Elneny, not Party (worst case scenario, he might cover for him in less intense PL games) he’s already played in the PL, so he’s a known quality, won’t be too bothered if he’s not in starting 11 constantly. Any younger PL experienced player in that position is going to cost us a bomb, as you can see there are only… Read more »

yes

@J4H with respect generally speaking if you find yourself agreeing with Qwaliteee on something it’s a sure sign there is some nuance to the situation you’re not seeing. I would address this to Qwaliteee as well, but Qwaliteee has proven over the years he is immune to nuance and can only view any issue from one very fixed and narrow viewpoint at a time, and while I would love to do so I don’t hold out much hope in swaying him from that so I’m not going to try. But I respect you and enjoy your contributions to this site… Read more »

Tapps

100% this.

Foggy

You read it?

Danny

Did you really read 100% of that?!

portugunner

your perfectly right from a business point of view, unfortunately, i’m a fan… ☹️

Viju Jacob

Man, that’s a long waffle with “you are right, he’s also right” namby-pamby fence sitting.

Danny

I think “fans” would wait and see how it pans out before saying we’ve acted poorly. What your doing is writing it off before it’s even started. Been plenty of “fans” like you over the last decade or more. Thankfully you’re a bit of a dinosaur now that the emirates is rocking again.

Dada

So what do you suggest? Genuinely asking.

Qwaliteee

That we pay Brighton what they are asking for.

£80m.

Not £60m. Not £70m.

£80m

It’s hardly rocket science…..

Graham

Who says Brighton would accept £80m?

Wouldn’t they just move the goalposts again and say actually we want £100m. And so on…

Qwaliteee

Oh for God’s sake. £80m was their widely reported valuation of the player. They probably wouldn’t accept £80m now, because it’s probably too late in that Chelsea have now reportedly started to put together a bid – days after our first bid, which should have been what Brighton’s evaluation was -£80m. NOT the utterly time wasting futility of our £60m first bid. I can’t understand why so many of you find it so difficult to understand..? Deliberately low opening bids are clearly not the way to do business now with top top players. If you’re Arsenal, you agree a price… Read more »

78/79/80

Errrr £100 million million was also reported as well as “HE’S NOT FOR SALE’ many times.

Qwaliteee

Errrr Sky and David Ornstein reported £80m.

Jorgy

I recommend less packet and nice cup of chamomile tea. Sometimes slowing down is actually a good thing.

Arsenalista

Tielemans

TexasRed

Anyone who calls our club embarrassing right now is embarrassing themselves.

Vonnie

It’s weird isn’t it. I agree with everything you’ve said, and nobody has believed in this process more than me, but here we are looking at a total fuck up that should never have reached this point. Two transfer windows to get a back up to Partey and here we are looking at Chel$ea garbage at the eleventh hour. We let Danilo go to Forest for fuck all and now we’re sniffing around a Chel$ea pensioner, you’d have thought we’d learned that lesson.

Homer

Right, right.
Because player deals and injuries are really easy to predict, just like on the football manager video game.

Good grief, people.

Qwaliteee

Mate, if Thomas Partey picks up an injury, we are fucked.

Jorginho, three yards behind everyone else, chasing shadows and stinking the fucking place out like Willian is not going to win us the Premiership.

wrightstuff8

Well said

s.p2

A permanent deal, though?! This is the best the club could muster?

78/79/80

18 months isn’t very permanent is it?

The reason we made a last minute dash for Douglas Luiz was because TP and Elneny both got injured at the same time. Nothing embarrassing about it.

Vonnie

That was at five minutes to midnight in the last transfer window, here we are in exactly the same scenario again. That is a fuck up.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

Are you saying Edu and Arteta should have known Elneny would get injured during the window?

Leon

I agree.
Edu has wasted far too much time.
If they are serious about this player, then pay the money they want – stop fucking around because it may cost us a lot more.
I like Edu, but we need someone who is more decisive in the market – you compete, or you just don’t bother at all.

Qwaliteee

I’ve been saying this for the entirety of the transfer window. With the exception of Trossard and the other new lad, this window has been wasted with pathetic bids. Pathetic in that we all of us know – except Edu – that they are going to be turned down flat. Why the fuck we cannot and will not go the extra mile is beyond me. The best side and the best chance of a title in two decades – and we are STILL fucking around trying to penny pinch. If we can bid £70m, then we can bid £80m. This… Read more »

Mikels Arteta

Is that you Raul?

Frank Bascombe

My man!

FUTgooner66

#EDUOUT – this fraud is going to cost us the league. If Chelsea can use clever accounting to spend the odd £500m why can’t we? We’re not trying hard enough, he’s had years to fix this gap in the squad and he seems incapable, yet some yank who hasn’t even been in football for 5 minutes is able to get anyone and everyone in? Make it make sense please. Also I can’t believe only J4H and Qwalitee can see that we haven’t moved on from the same mistakes Wenger was making. We’re on a good run but let’s not kid… Read more »

Bill Hall

I don’t know how you can say *some unknown polish guy who looks pretty shit* or lol at Trossard who has looked pretty good so far. And that yank over at Chelsea hasn’t a fucking clue how to run the club, he is like a rich brat in a candy store buying everything no matter the cost. That is not how to run a club, the wages will be astronomical and 8+ year contracts! Fucking crazy! And all to get round FFP before they change the rules. The day Arsenal behave like that is the day I stop supporting the… Read more »

Qwaliteee

I don’t subscribe to Edu Out, but I’m fucking angry at his naivety in placing time wasting insignificant bids for Mudryk and Caicedo.

I hope he proves me wrong today, wakes the fuck up and places £80 on the table for Caicedo. That said, even that’s probably too late now with Chelsea poking their fucking par on again.

Trossard is a good player but the rest of this pitiful window has played out like a fucking slow motion car crash.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

I have no problem with the club not overpaying. Such a strategy has brought us Zinny and Jesus.

Wrighty’s hats

I agree.

lari

calm down dude. what planet did you just step out from?

Qwaliteee

* Chelsea poking their oar in

Santi’s Thigh Grab

What a load of shit. Spurs troll.

Thierry Bergkamp (non negotiable)

Bloody hell, you’re at it again

Boff

Same reply to Leon

Ozzie

You should be a chelsea fan, they’re more your type of club.They’re bids are less pathetic right?

TexasRed

You can leave Tee. We won’t stop you. “Pathetic” is big word to call our club behind your keyboard. Come to my pub and try it big boy!

wrrong

Understandable if you were screaming for us to sign this guy before the newspapers gave him an exciting £80m number that makes him seem like a big fish. If Brighton were willing to let him go for £10m you would probably class it as an embarrassing signing. No one knows whether going in with low starting offers is what got us the final prices for Trossard and Kiwor. Mixed bag for me this window. I’m glad we aren’t letting the likes of Shaktar and co pull our trousers down. But at the same time, Jorginho just doesn’t excite me and… Read more »

Alan Sunderland

he can’t force a team to sell, or a player to sign.

Qwaliteee

Yes he can.

Money talks and the Kroenkes have made the funds available – our bids for Mudryk and now this have proved that.

If we can afford to bid £70m, we can afford to bid £80m.

Paying the asking price promptly = deal.

Wasting everyone’s time with bids that are nailed on to be turned down = no player. And scraping the bottom of the barrel in a last day trolley dash. Embarrassing.

Graham

Brighton say he’s not for sale. Not for £70m, not for £80m, not for £1bn. What part of “he’s not for sale” don’t you understand?

Boff

Yeah – sitting in front of your keyboard makes you a
knowledgeable transfer guru. You have absolutely no idea on the ins and outs of the business. It is not easy, or predictable. Chill.

Qwaliteee

And you do know, do you…..?

Come on then – pray tell us all why we fell £5m short of Shakhtar’s asking price of Mudryk and are currently £10m off the pace from Brighton’s valuation of Caicedo?

Hint: It’s definitely not a lack of funding from the Kroenkes. Because if this club can bid £70m, it can bid £80m, no sweat.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

Because Chelsea were willing to pay him more salary and AFC were not.

wrightstuff8

What u talking about – Brighton don’t want to sell. They want to get in Europe themselves and sell him in the summer to more suitors for more money.
You and Qwalitee would have more hair on your heads if you supported Chel$ea.

s.p2

If Brighton are adamant about not selling than why have Arsenal pursued the deal right up to the penultimate day of the transfer window? Perish the thought that fans question certain things…

Qwaliteee

Mate, you’re ruining their blind obedience agenda with little things like a few home truths about the transfer market.

You won’t see them for dust on here if our title bid goes south due to a Partey injury.

Qwaliteee

“Why don’t you support Chelsea?”

Why don’t YOU support West Ham? Their title bids – or total lack of them – would suit you down to the ground.

TexasRed

Bunch of fecking know it alls. I haven’t seen you in a single meeting with Teta and Edu.

Qwaliteee

Oh. So you were there then? Don’t tell me, is your name Stan?

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

Danny

You’re gonna look a right prick if he turns out to be a good signing.

wrightstuff8

Lol

Qwaliteee

Well let’s hope for your sake that your mate Mr Tumnus comes up trumps.

Charles Charlie Charles

Which is to say that you are going to look incredibly foolish if he doesn’t turn out to be a good signing. I know what my money’s on.

TexasRed

No, but I’m not the one acting like I know everything. The way you are speaking about the club over this potential transfer shows your arrogance and is wildly off the mark considering where we are right now. Healthy skepticism is fine, but you are taking way beyond that.

GoonerJust

We should back off from Caicedo and move on. Save the money for Rice or Bellingham on the summer. Jorginho is a well decorated veteran who can bring us good during for the remainder of the season. Half a year loan should be a good business for both parties. This is definitely not a Kallstromian type of deal, much much better.

Qwaliteee

If we can’t sign Mudryk or Caicedo, what makes you think Edu will sign Rice….?

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

Charles Charlie Charles

The very same thought had occurred to me.

PeteyB

A loan I’d be on board with. It does feel Caicedo is way overpriced. Any thoughts on Sander Berge? From my memory he was one of Sheffields best players when in EPL. Maybe a better age for long term. I do think Jorginhio could do well if the mentality is right, and he wants to prove his worth. Casemiro is only a few months younger and performing very well.

Qwaliteee

It’s not a loan.

We’re getting the useless bearded tortoise for 18 months, with an option of a further year.

My cup overfloweth….😴

lari

I think they were half heartedly in the market for a DM expecting that the duo of Elneny and Lokonga could cover for Partey. The injury to Elneny clearly has changed that as Lokonga can’t carry the burden, and especially not alone. If Jorginho is coming in as a loan option then sure. But not as a permanent signing. I’d rather play Ben White as DM if push comes to shove. I don’t even know how good this Caicedo kid is tbh.

lari

i don’t think there was a serious plan for a DM this Jan until Elneny’s injury. so we were kinda playing catch up

Cannon and ball and arse’n’all

I don’t normally disagree with your takes or hot takes, but for £10/£12m I think this is a superb signing. Sky have shown an infographic on partey vs Jorg – Jorg outperforms partey all but one stat (overall completed passes, which was the one stat I’d expect TP to be lower). Jorg better stats in terms of total tackles (2.95 vs 2.32), interceptions (1.48 vs 1.23), ball recoveries (8.36 vs 8.01), forward passing % (30.97 vs 28.98), partey wins only on passes completed (58.24 vs 52.48), and Partey is prone to a misplaced pass. Add to this the experience and… Read more »

ArtetasForehead

Many fans lose their minds over this. First of all it may be a lie or it can be a negotiation tactic.
Even if it true I think he is better than Lokonga Elneny if it is only for 6 months I wouldn’t be so wind up.

Qwaliteee

Mate, our title hopes are in the balance of Partey picks up an injury.

Wake up FFS.

Alan Sunderland

our title hopes hang in the balance with a partey injury because elneny or lokonga are the alternatives, 2 very average players. jorginho is a good player, no problem to him coming on or starting in a big game. he has no problem showing for the ball facing his own goal with a man on him. he’s a very good player with both feet playing out of pressure, I think he’s a good player, he’s also got a bit of mongrel in him, he has no problem being a bit of a cunt.

Qwaliteee

Jorginho is a busted flush, slow and past it. He will bring NOTHING to this team. I warned you all about Willian and I’m warning you all again about this latest Chelsea waster. The sad thing for many of you on here is that it’s going to take lots of possible dropped points and probably a failed title bid before you all wake up to the reality of the situation. We are leaving ourselves woefully short of adequate quality cover for Thomas Partey. That’s not good enough for Arsenal in general. For a season chasing down our first title in… Read more »

Scrubbychubby

Sorry, did you just describe Edu as, “criminally negligent”?! Get a bloody grip man – you seem utterly, utterly unhinged. How on earth can you be so angry about this?!

Qwaliteee

I wonder how much It’ll cost us to buy out his contract in the summer.

Probably as much, if not more than the difference between our failed second bid and Brighton’s asking price for Caicedo.

As it is, we might just as well build a bonfiire today and throw £13m (plus add ons) on it.

Daylight fucking robbery.

Chelsea fans are pissing themselves – and with good reason.

ArtetasForehead

Hmmm. So if any of the likes of Ramsdale Saka MØ Martinelli Xhaka Ben White Saliba Gabriel are injured what is our back up?
So we buy replacement for each one those that costs 100 mil each and is also young and willing to bench warm.
Am I awake now?

Qwaliteee

It’s called building a squad to compete properly.

lari

well, as you may recall, the squad building work was not meant to be concluded this Jan. we were rumoured to be in for Camavinga as a loan option but it fell through. Also Zubimendi, but he doesn’t want to move just yet. Now Caicedo. Going by fans’ judgements we should have gone in for Bissouma who can’t even get regular game time in an average Spurs’ team. I personally don’t rate Tielemanns that highly. What about him do people think will massively improve us? Even the Caicedo guy, it’s a gamble. Many once thought Lokonga was the next big… Read more »

Qwaliteee

Caicedo is better than Jorginho. End of.

arseblog

Nobody would argue that. But only one them is available in this window.

Also, please just calm down a little man. Nobody’s mad for this deal, but you don’t have to reply to every single post on this subject.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

Context. It’s a wonderful thing.

Charles Charlie Charles

Scroll down a little further on this thread Andrew, and you’ll see that someone has called Qwaliteee a whiney ‘cunt.’ Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that abuse and in conflict with the rules for this site?

arseblog

Yeah, we don’t allow that but then we can’t monitor every single comment so sometimes people need to make us aware.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

Brighton won’t sell despite your insistence that we just need to offer them more money. Not getting anyone in for cover is more embarrassing for the club and would be the stick you beat them with if we don’t finish well. So while not a transfer to get excited about, the team of Edu and Arteta have managed the best start in club history, eclipsing the Invincible’s and yet you call them embarrassing. That’s embarrassing.

Charles Charlie Charles

I think you will find that he was referring to Edu’s transfer business acumen as embarrassing, not our current status in the Premiership. You good folk do love to twist things round to suit your own agenda.

Emi Rates

Amen!

Emi Rates

Sorry, one more thing to add. Fuck Chelsea!

Alex_P