“Copa load of this” – notes from Chile 2015 (Pt.7)

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David Ospina’s Copa America dreams were left in tatters as Colombia lost to Argentina on penalties on Friday night.

The Arsenal keeper produced a string of fine saves to deny Javier Pastore, Sergio Aguero, Lionel Messi and Nicholas Otamendi, but couldn’t replicate his heroics in the shootout.


Jeison Murillo’s missed effort, Colombia’s fifth kick, afforded Carlos Tevez the chance to score the winning spot-kick. The striker, who has just swapped Juventus for Boca Juniors, duly despatched his effort into the top corner.

Argentina will now play Paraguay in the semi-finals after the latter knocked out Brazil in a similarly dramatic shootout. In the other semi-final Alexis Sanchez’s Chile will play Peru.

Ospina, who only conceded only one goal during normal time in the five games he played in Chile, will now head off on holiday before deciding on his Arsenal future. The stopper has been heavily linked with Fenerbahce in the last ten days in light of Petr Cech’s imminent Emirates arrival.

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Henry! Chance!! Goal!!!
Henry! Chance!! Goal!!!

Those were brilliant saved from Ospina. It was also nice to see the South American fans chanting Ooooooospina!

Getso gunner
Getso gunner

Is a pity that such a fantastic keeper will likely leave us

cygan'sbaldspot
cygan'sbaldspot

Come on, man. A week ago everyone was calling for him to leave in light of cech’s imminent arrival. I say keep him. Fuck all this stuff about szzzzzzcezzzy become world class. Ospina is already the superior keeper so why not keep him?

Miranda
Miranda

Because Ospina is too good and too young not to be first choice at a big club. His Opta stats for last season are nearly as good as Cech’s, possibly better in reality when you consider that his are based on league games and Cech’s on the less challenging domestic cups.

Save percentage: Cech 89, Ospina 81, Szczesny 67.

Dick Swiveller
Dick Swiveller

Because Messi and Aguero do not play the same way as many Premiership teams…I’d love for us to pick keepers purely on shot-stopping and having an awesome chant, unfortunately the way they deal with aerial bombardment is pretty important.

Miranda
Miranda

True, and Cech is psychologically in a position to boss the defence. Coming from a successful club where he has won everything he has a huge advantage over the modest, newly arrived Ospina, who didn’t even speak very good English.

The other plus of Cech, I suppose – and paradoxically – is that he is old so Martinez will believe it’s worth sticking with us for a bit rather than seeking his fortune elsewhere. I love Matinez and hope that this season’s loan spell in Spain will be just what he needs.

Though I don’t share the widespread euphoria over the Cech transfer, I’m not massively opposed to it, either. I do, though, have some sympathy with Wenger’snosehair’s position. We used to pride ourselves on our ability to scout and nurture young talent, not only for the long-term financial benefits it brought us – our transfer surplus was once what kept us alive – but also because it was a better, classier way to proceed. Buying ready-made, elderly big-club rejects with no resale value is fine but only if you don’t do it much and they don’t keep the young talent out. Too much of this policy, especially given the wages players like Cech have to be paid, and we could be storing up financial difficulties for a few years down the line. Better scouting, better backroom staff and much better academy is what we should be focusing on. Clearly Gazidis hasn’t forgotten this – thank God, and big kudos to him for bringing in Shad and Jonker – but Wenger understandablynow seems more interested in the short term.

chippy's chip
chippy's chip

Keep Oooospinaaa to fight for No1 spot with cech and send szczezny on loan in prem to play. Sorted.

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

Ospina will have plenty of options if Arsene decides to let him go or if himself decides not to play second fidèle.

Francis123
Francis123

He won’t be the first ( Ala fanbiaski).

geeek_gooner
geeek_gooner

Blogs, what’s the poo-ometer rating on Vidal reports?

arseblog
Admin

11 poos

Alexstratz
Alexstratz

Oh man, Chile just keep on going. That’s bad for us, especially if we are to sign Vidal.

Rectum Spectrum
Rectum Spectrum

i haven’t seen a lot of vidal, but haven’t much interest in a player who played THAT badly in the champs league final. not only was he stinkingly poor, but he looked so far out of his depth running about trying his best to get sent off in the first half. I think even flamini was sitting at home watching going ‘wooooaaahhhhhh….jesus calm down mate’.

Miranda
Miranda

I’d much prefer Cavalho. He’s younger and more versatile – he can play in central defence – and therefore better value long term. Trouble is, his buy-out clause is 40m (euros) and after his performances for the under-21s and there’ll be massive competition for him so even 40m may not now be enough. If we rejected him last year, presumably for being too expensive, I can’t see it happening alas.

Unfortunately quite trustworthy sources linked us with Vidal early last season so I wouldn’t be that dismissive of the current rumours.

Merlin's Panini
Merlin's Panini

umm… if his clause is 40 million then that will be enough unless they did a Liverpool on whoever bids on him (wich won’t be us because he’s overrated and overpriced).

gooner2006

i hope we don’t spend money on carvalho.

goonero
goonero

Strange situation with our keepers. Whoever is number 1 next season better be aware that good isn’t good enough for this Arsenal side anymore.

WengersNoseHair
WengersNoseHair

That’s nice mate, but we’re replacing you with a Chav, so shove off to Turkey, ok? We’re The Arsenal, we sign stars, we don’t make them.

A to the HA
A to the HA

Rather have too many top quality keepers in the team, than none at all.

Nordin
Nordin

Ospina showed last week against Brazil….somebody wrote the Brazil syras the likes of Neymar are not big enough compared to BPL forwards.. This week against Argentina….with the likes of Messi of all players and Aguero, Di Maria….its another shutdown from him. What some of the fans are saying…oh we still one a world class GK!! Let me tell these folks….we already have a world class GK in the ranks….and he is David Ospina!!
I hope if he really leaves, Arsenal do not regret the decision with having Cech & Szczesny !!

Alexstratz
Alexstratz

“But Szczesny is higher!” yada yada yada. I guess speaking on Facebook gets you more favor from the fans than speaking on the pitch.

David
David

Would rather keep him over the pole, sentimentalist (which i guess is why some ppl prefer the pole, cuz he is home grown, and have some kind of potential that i fail to see sometimes, he has been first choice for years now and havent actually showed that big potential) wont take us anywhere. Ospina is WAY MORE focused than szcz, more mature, professional and calm. Only thing the Pole has over him is height and ego that rivals bendtner’s…and with just one and a half year of age difference, i fail to see how he wont gain from cech but for somes, the pole will

Arsenal's Legend
Arsenal's Legend

Some keepers peak early just to fade away with age (Almunia, Mignolet) while some peaked very late as they approached 30s (Van de sar) While some maintained steady growth in their career (Buffon, Casillas, Cech) so I can see Scez in the mold of the latter. He is a keeper that will win us many titles in the future all he needs to do is to prune some of his ego.

diefenbaker
diefenbaker

Not willing to see our club suffer for the sake of waiting for him to realize said potential.

The Glenn Helder 3
The Glenn Helder 3

There’s no way we’ll keep Ospina over Sczcesny. Szcz is a homegrown player, should think his value is much higher to the squad as it frees up a non-homegrown berth for use elsewhere. He’s lucky for sure, as in the last 6 months Ospina has been the better keeper, but that, plus the fact that he’s a previous golden glove winner and a little bit younger probably means he’s just hanging in there.

We’d be nuts to have Ospina, Szcz and Cech in the same squad as all of those must be on 50k plus. You’d think Arsene would have plans for spending some of those wages elsewhere rather than a 3rd choice keeper.

All of this adds up to the fact that if Cech comes in, Ospina leaves. Simple really.

winterburn 87
winterburn 87

Cech, Vidal n Higuain/ lacazette/Benzema..why Vidal? The guy will be the closes thing that we can compare to Viera + him n Ramsey can rotate, with Ramsey injuries history..Vidal will be awesome. Imagine him crash his Ferrari into John Terry face!!!

luca james
luca james

Ospina is a decent shot stopper but that’s not enough in PL football! How often do teams even get shots off against us anyway? We concede from corners and set pieces more than anything else.

Ospina is great for highlight reels but the reality is he’s too small which is why he has to do impressive dives to stop shots that Szcz would handle with ease.

Szcz should stay and learn from Cech and Ospina should go imo

Roczil

All this arsenal rumours…..cech, Vidal, talks of title possibilities are sure putting the gunners up there where manure was, where chitty fell from and where mou is struggling to reach. This sort of makes big boots kinda look arse side and think…they are the deal now, huh. Sorry Rvp, this is not ambition, it’s home where we belong. Cess…wrong decision mate, if you are leaving barca…..you come to arsenal, else you suck. ..bi**h

GoonerChris

It all comes down to AW’s opinion of Ospina’s season. For us to be signing Cech it means there is room for improvement and Cech will instantly become the new #1. AW will have to decide out of Szczesny and Opsina and he could prefer having the calmer presence of Ospina at #2 than the inpatient potential of Sczcesny. I don’t want to see the back of Szczesny personally as he has the potential and ego to be a top top keeper. The problem is I don’t see Szczesny reacting well to the idea of going out on loan. Wenger will have to choose between the 2.