Friday, February 23, 2024

Arsenal 2-2 Fulham – player ratings

Arsenal dropped two points against Fulham in frustrating fashion at the Emirates this afternoon.

Carelessness cost us another early goal inside a minute, but second half strikes from Bukayo Saka (pen) and Eddie Nketiah put us 2-1, after which the visitors were reduced to 10 men. However, more sloppiness saw them equalise from a corner, and despite plugging away and having 19 shots (11 on target), we couldn’t find a winner.

Mikel Arteta’s team selection will come under some serious scrutiny too, and the manager has thinking to do (hopefully not more over-thinking) before Man Utd next weekend.

Here’s how the players rated this afternoon.

Read the Arsenal 2-2 Fulham report and see the goals here 

Arsenal 2-2 Fulham – Player Ratings

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GoonerJust

We should keep Gaby, stick to last season,s back 4. And please, don’t rely on havertz too much, he need more time to adapt and getting back his Bundesliga goal scoring mojo!

T dog

Exactly, what the fuck is going on with not playing Gabriel? I would rather have not bought so many players (exc rice) and stopped all this nonsense. Early days but only one point from a 10 man Fulham at home is points dropped.

Mentalista

I can only imagine the club received an 80m offer from Saudi for Gabriel and is finalising the deal.

GoonerJust

We can’t buy an equal replacement even with 80mn these days….

SLC Gooner

This. He and Saliba have the potential to be the best partnership in the league. Finding an equivalent replacement at any price will be difficult. I get it, if we get a ridiculous offer from Saudi, but IMO it should be closer to 100M what others went for. And we need to have a replacement with Tierney going and Tomi having injury issues.

goonshow

He cannot be sold for a penny less than Caicedo… keep the guy, ffs!!!!!!

Exit the Lemming

You can’t argue with that: West Ham’s Player of the Month

Rotten Apple

Big Gabi is our organizer in defense last season much like Ruben Dias was for MC when he first arrived to replace Vincent Kompany…Probably Laporte (Aymeric) will be willing to accept 100k a week from us now to take up that role and partner 200k a week Saliba. Big Gabi and his agent must feel like a chump now after agreeing to extend his new 100k a week contract last season so quickly and without hassle and I don’t blame him coz I would feel the same way in his place. One can be professional about this kind of thing… Read more »

Yiannis

I suspected the same!

Indiegooner

Amen! Play your best center back pair and as a consequence play your best right back as well. Unless there is something in the background that we are not privy of, it is as simple as that.

Santi’s Thigh Grab

Who was our best RB available for today?

Mesut Ö’Neill

Ben White, Obviously!!

Tom

Spot on

Funsho Patrick

Inversion Obsession Confusion😂…..2 points thrown away by needless tinkering…our back 4 was as good as any in Europe when all fit last season…Don’t even think about selling Gabriel Meghales

GARY

Havertz is a 65m burden on arteta that would probably get him the sack. He needs to justify spending that kind of money on a thoroughy sht player the whole world knows is sht. What is he trying to prove that the whole world is blind and he’s the only smart one? Arteta your head is already on the blocks just for that Havertz deal. If he doesn’t make Havertz work that would be his downfall. Also game management. SAKA was knackered and he left him on and took Odegaard and Rice off. When he should be taking Saka off… Read more »

Thierry Bergkamp (non negotiable)

So with the big improvement all around, which is down to Arteta, his job is on the line because of one transfer?

You Arsenal fans smh

El Mintero

Lot of confusion right now and the team look lost. Big gab is obviously being lined up for a transfer elsewhere because there’s absolutely no logic keeping him out the team and playing with this ridiculous fkn inverted defense bs. I’ll fkn scream next time TP is forced to play RB. If this is being done to force Havertz into the team then Arteta has lost the plot.

Thierry Bergkamp (non negotiable)

Lost the plot or, maybe he’s trying something new, which after 3 games doesn’t seem to be working.
You Arsenal fans smh

ALadin Gooner

One ? you have to see the situation from a Macro vision
He has too many signings and the highest net spent in our history by far
He has to deliver by style

Eu_gh

One very bad transfer which people complained about before it came to be.

Sbdjubor1306

The arrogance exhibited by Arteta regarding Havertz is simply unbelievable. Every pundit had doubts about the deal, even Arsenal fans expressed misgivings. But Arteta believes he’s smarter than everyone and see what others can’t. As a result, he’s created an imbalance on the pitch: playing Partey at RB, White at CB. It has affected the partnerships players formed last season. Saka/White, Saliba/Gabriel, etc. The telepathy was there. Now, it’s all confusion. Arteta is a young manager, he should stop behaving like a veteran that has won everything: he hasn’t earned that right yet.

TexasRed

Sounds like you are the one who thinks he’s smarter than everyone.

Eu_gh

A lot us think same!

ChickPEA

I guess you were among the Ramsdale doubters? And the fans who preferred Maddison over Odegaard?
It would not be the first time that Mikel is right about something where he thinks differently, give the Havertz experiment some time.

Alan Sunderland

I think Mikel might be the biggest ramsdale doubter, would not be surprised to see Raya start the next game. 30 million would be the most expensive backup keeper in the world.

Bleeding Gums Murphy

The problem is now is not the time to experiment. We have a fantastic squad. We are playing Fulham at home. We have a system that worked so well last season. Experiment on the training ground.

Exit the Lemming

Yep, there is no need to design the plane when we are already in the air

Eu_gh

Nobody eve knows Maddison would have turned out, besides look at him in the last two games for sp*rs, you never can tell Bro.

Vincent O’Carroll

We have seen Arteta spend months on trying to allow William fit…..If we remember it was Williams failure that allowed for Saka to break through and essentially save Arteta’s job….Will we see Arteta repeat this….

Thierry Bergkamp (non negotiable)

Ramsdale. You was right behind that signing from the news broke, weren’t you.
All the Arsenal fans wanting 60m Maddison instead of 30m Odegaard, were all right, weren’t they

Eu_gh

True!

LGfromNYC

Well this is insane, even by Arsenal supporter standards. But yes, Havertz is that terrible.

portugunner

😳

goonshow

Mik is NOT ‘on the block’, but you are most certainly off yours, mate!

Exit the Lemming

All transfers are inherently gambles. Some work out and some dont. It’s way too early in Havertz’ Arsenal career to reach any sort of conclusion

Eu_gh

Well spoken 👌

Dada

Galaxy brain. Tinkering for no reason

aprilfool

As frustrated as I am with his whole dropping Gabriel / TP at RB thing, I don’t really think it’s fair to blame the manager for two supremely poor goals from individual lapses in concentration. There’s not much to say about the first; the second came from weak defending on a corner that came from a poor pass. I wouldn’t judge the “system” based on those goals.

Shivam Nigam

Agreed those were poor goals to concede and system/team selection can hardly be the reason, but that said, the TP/Gabriel situation is due to Mikel trying to include kai in the team which is hardly working.

Philip

Don’t think you can blame Partey for Saka’s bad pass

Hurensohn

Yep, complete nonsense putting any blame for that on Partey.

Kanishk Upreti

It’s an error from Saka but also by TP/Ben White because one of them clearly has to stay back in that central defensive space with Saliba, instead both of them are caught too high up the pitch. New tactics ain’t helping either :/

A Different George

That is ridiculous. Nothing wrong with either Partey’s or White’s positioning on that play.

goonshow

Apart from the fact that we had no RB… and Saka instinctively passed the ball back to the RB… who wasn’t there?

Point is – we FINALLY moulded a decent back 4 into place over last season (until Willy got injured). They are now all fit and we’re messing around with that proven formula???

Crash Fistfight

So what you’re saying is that Saka should assume one/both of them should be there, instead of using those things on the front of his face to see that both of them had moved before the ball even got to him?

Kanishk Upreti

No what I’m saying is that we should try and maintain a defensive shape where in one misplaced pass doesn’t always lead to us conceding a goal. Especially given our track record of starting matches at home by gifting goals to weak opponents.

charvakan

Yes, you are right. White was giving Saka an option for the backpass and that took him out of position; he couldn’t do anything about Saka’s terrible misplay. But Partey should have been more aware of the space left by his shifting into midfield and White’s showing for the pass, and got back in time to at least worry any Fulham player who latched onto a misplaced pass or miscontroled reception. That he did not is because he isn’t really a right back and does not have that instinctive positional awareness. I’m not thrilled by Ramsdale’s positioning either. No one… Read more »

goonshow

It’s primarily on Saka but one has to ask why Thomas was already drifting out of the starting formation IN THE FIRST MINUTE?!!!

Settle into the match… suss your opponent out… get a sense of where and how they are pressing… and then start to switch things around, surely?

Eu_gh

Good, and guess who that is on??? The manager of course!

Kanishk Upreti

There is a huge huge gap between Saliba and White leading up to their first goal. And TP is parrarel with Perreira as the ball is played to Saka. And as a part of the back 4 it’s his job to first prevent our opponents from scoring. Why is he on the left side of our only CDM I don’t know. He isn’t a natural full back and these tactics are confusing to everyone so maybe it’s not entirely his fault but you can’t expect to win PL games with such a terrible shape in defence. It’s not the first… Read more »

Kanishk Upreti

Sure I know I am nit picking but if we are serious about challenging City then we have to be pretty much flawless for an entire campaign.

Bleeding Gums Murphy

Then that flawless logic includes Saka. It was his fault alone for the goal.

Kanishk Upreti

Ofc it does, when did I say Saka was not at fault?
But then again it’s not as if every misplaced pass everywhere in the world leads to a direct goal? There are other factors also which have an influence in preventing/conceding after said erroneous pass?

goonshow

Yep – and later, he also stood motionless in the box only a metre goalside of Palinha and watched him score. The lad needs a refocus – towards the end of last season, he was clearly fatigued… this is game two!!

ThatgoonerguyGuy

One thing you seem to ignore in your assessment is that TP was doing exactly what appears to be the managers plan/instruction whe we have possession, he’s drifting into midfield

Kanishk Upreti

He’s supposed to drift in and out of midfield. Also if he’s inverting surely it has to be on the right hand side of Declan Rice, so that it makes his recovery into the RB position quicker? Just look at the gap between Ben White and Saliba before Saka misplaces his pass and tell me if you really think that’s what Arteta wants? I dont care who is at fault whether it’s Saka, Saliba, White, Partey, Arteta or all of them combined. I love and support all the players who put on the shirt. All i care about is 3… Read more »

goonshow

Not in the first bloody minute of game, ffs! Settle into a rhythm into your STARTING position? Suss the opposition out? Get a sense of where and how they’re pressing?
And then start to get sexy with positional switches etc.

goonshow

Exactly – and I made the point above that this happened in the first bloody minute of the game!! At least let things settle, get into a groove and then start to get smart with shifting roles, etc.
It was a naive, basic error – which doesn’t excuse Saka’s ‘blind’ pass, but it does explain things, to a degree.
Square pegs in round holes… and that’s on Mik.

Hurensohn

When TP moves into midfield White is in position. White then moves towards the right to offer a pass for Saka. TP surely can not predict that happening… No way you can put any of that on him.

Tsavyange Mbaave

Why was he moving to midfield from first second? Is the movement not supposed to be when the situation demands?

ThatgoonerguyGuy

The “situation” that demands that is when we are in possession, which we were in that moment, regardless of time on the clock. Can’t fault a player for following instruction/tactics
of manager

Alan Sunderland

Think partey and white were exactly where they were meant to be. That’s the 3rd time in 2023 we have conceded in the 1st minute, look how high a line Fulham were playing. Southampton figured it out from the kick off. The other team watch tape and have tactics as well, Fulham had pushed right up hoping for an interception.

Thierry Bergkamp (non negotiable)

I’d say Rice was more to blame for putting Saka in that position

goonshow

Blame is largely on Saka’s ‘brain fart’ pass – but the point is also that Partey was AWOL, standing in his USUAL def mid position and not at RB… because he ain’t a RB !!!

This experiment has cost us on more than one occasion, now – it’s enough. And the fact that we are even considering selling Gabriel (for ANY price!) is super concerning.

Chris

Agreed. He is supposed to play CDM when we have the ball and RB when we don’t. He cannot run the 20 yards necessary to fill that space when Saka gives the ball away like that. No-one can. We look poor in this new formation. Havertz seems to be causing Martinelli to be isolated on the flank, while White can’t combine with Saka as much on the right. Partey was superb for us in the middle up until the injury last year and now we are asking him to be in two places at once. The modern game is about… Read more »

Brazilian Gooner

Gabriel has to start

Teryima Adi

It’s as simple as that.

Solomon Grover

All three of Martinelli, Magalhães and Jesus should be starting. Calling them Gabriel like you know them doesn’t help.

Orion.b

That tinkering from Arteta tho 😩

mrugunner

and they all say he understands the game.. poor man’s pep

Mark

Well said, the down votes are from the blind or dumb,
pep has more knowledge and more nous gained over years, pep lite has very little to fall back on when things get tough and probably pulls out his notebook to see what ‘pep told me to do’.

Danny

One drawn game and out come the knobheads…..

goonshow

Don’t they just… the InstaBrats. Patience and vision ain’t their long suit.

Exit the Lemming

Word to the wise junior Gunners: Rupert Murdoch didn’t invent football

johnny

I am starting to doubt Havertz

Pat Rice and Beans

He’s not £70M quid material.

johnny

Certainly doesn’t show he is. He gets another 3-4 games to prove himself, tops

mark

agreed, if he isn’t good enough for Chelsea he isn’t good enough for us, we should aim much higher, we got robbed

goonshow

Just as many on here said about Odegaard… and Ramsdale… and and and

WilCheShire

Maybe Arteta has something specific in mind for Havertz that, if it comes off, will be fantastic. It sure as hell hasn’t come off yet. He should have come off instead of Trossard. He was completely, utterly useless today.

LGfromNYC

It was a very bad day for Trossard today.

Exit the Lemming

For a player who clearly has an unshakable belief in his own ability, his performance was a complete mystery to me

Teryima Adi

What was the use of letting Xhaka go if it was to buy Havertz?!!!

ChickPEA

Looks like Vieira wants Havertz’s spot. And he looked like he deserves it today.

Comedian

The whole team would play better, if you played players at their natural positions. Not fair on Partey or Kiwior.

El Mintero

Amen brother.

Rick

Xhaka left the blueprint on how to play the role with Vieira. I say give him a run of games in the role until havertz gets up to scratch, if ever he does. But we can’t keep ‘shoe horn’ him into the team. If you are going to be ruthless, it can’t go for some must be for all.

Solomon Grover

Arteta’s poor choices have played awfully into making Vieira seem like he’d suit more than Havertz. Arsenal should be defending as a team and walking the ball into the net. Vieira won’t help that with what he shows at the moment. Havertz box to box balance suits Arsenal. Too many Emirates era fans unable to grasp the club. Frustrating.

goonshow

Yes – and Viera coming good is one thing, but one also has to question why, with a rejuvenated ESR ripping up the Eng u21 tournament, we felt the need to drop so much moolah on Kai?
Hope there’s a master plan – but can’t see the logic at this point.

Chippy

I think Arteta is seriously over complicating things, I understand trying to make us less predictable but what he’s doing is actually making us less effective. There is a seriously talented squad there if he picks the correct players and formation. I do think he’ll figure it out eventually however. Don’t want to jump on a bandwagon or kick a player when he’s down but when I see Havertz name on the team sheet I feel disappointed. He just doesn’t bring enough or take enough risks for me. Vieira was class when he came on. I pray he kicks on… Read more »

BurleyDave

Maybe. But I’m unconvinced that figuring it out eventually is good enough.

Exit the Lemming

No disrespect intended but managers learn their trade at Macclesfield, not Arsenal

WilCheShire

So far, it only seems unpredictable to our own players.

ThatgoonerguyGuy

Exactly, in the 3 games so far the opposition managed us reasonably well. They adapted to our unpredictability better than our own players did. It needs to stop, tried and failed

Ballz

He plays in midfield with 2 other midfielders and 2 fullbacks who also play in midfield.He’s simply not on the ball long enough to make an impact. I’m sure you’ve also seen Odegaard and Partey’s individual impact drop as well. There’s only one ball, and if it has to go to 5 other people before it reaches Havertz, there’s only so much he can do

loose_cannon

One of those games where everyone (except maybe Havertz and Trossard) scores an extra point if we see out the tie. Can only hope we go back to our standard back four against United, perhaps with Partey at 6 and Rice at 8.

Bleeding Gums Murphy

I would have thought the team picks itself. Same as last season with rice replacing Xhaka. Partey is class in the holding role. Saka martinelli and Jesus up front. Something tells me we won’t see that though. Arteta is gonna stick with this experiment. There’s no need in my book to be experimenting.

Vieiraera

0/10 to Arteta for fixing what is not broken and costing us two 2 points today.

Brazilian Gooner

Our problem last season was losing the Saliba/Gabriel partnership, now he does that on purpose…

I miss santi cazorla

Spot on mate

Tony

How would Gabriel made any difference for the goals we conceded today? He would be nowhere near the first goal and he wouldn’t mark the guy that shot the second since he wasn’t close to our CBs.

Bleeding Gums Murphy

The system is better as it was last season. We may have been out of sight. Also Gabriel could absolutely make a difference with their second goal. He heads clear unlike the 3 players who jumped and and did not

Tsavyange Mbaave

Prevented many goals from corners. He was even a goal scoring CB.

Naked Cygan

Just not good enough. We need to smash man utd to make up for this result.

Exit the Lemming

A win v Man Utd would clearly be welcomed but will not answer the underlying issues that Arteta has thus far failed to address: we cannot defend well enough to keep clean sheets (even at home) Most teams who win a corner against Arsenal will be disappointed if they don’t score, a bang average central defender is playing at left back, a holding midfielder is playing at right back, our best right back is playing as a central defender, players not deemed good enough to start turn out to be better than those who started (Ntekiah and Viera)

Thebeerbear

Haverts was more like a 2/10. Messed up 3 simple passes, constantly offside even though he had time to look along the line and looked like a shell of a player. I hope its just a confidence thing because he still looks like haverts of Chelsea.

GoonerJust

I did give Havertz 0.5/10

veire

Zinchenko surely gets less than 5.5. He caused the corner we conceded that led to the goal. Didn’t bother jumping when the corner was taking and try head it away. Not as accurate with his passing, though some of his crosses into their box were nice. Just wondering who we have that can score from headers in such situations… Havertz?

Hurensohn

Eddie?

charvakan

Yeah, he had to start. He earned it in the first two games.

Edzo

Zinchenko is prone to mistakes which is why Pep let him go. He’s good when he inverts not so much at other times. Gabriel saved us so much when Zinchenko made a mistake last season.

Maybe Arteta will start Havertz as an inverted right back. Ridiculous.

Vonnie

Big Gabi.

A Different George

Zinchenko almost always makes the team better and he certainly did today. I don’t know how anyone could have watched and not seen that, “Not as accurate with his passing”–as who?

Fireman Sam

Zinchenko is talented but he’s also a liability.

goonshow

Don’t be a ‘one-eyed patriot’ mate – Zinch is excellent driving us forward, certainly.
But he is also a liability when put under pressure on defence. He repeatedly makes key errors – and our opponents have all clocked that towards the end of last season and WILL exploit this one… watch this space.

Sbdjubor1306

Zingy and Jesus don’t get any flak. They’re guaranteed a start when fit, yet, they don’t do what we signed them for: defend and score respectively. Agreed, they bring other qualities to the team. A doctor knowing how to repair a car doesn’t change his main duties. Zingy cost us the game at Anfield last season. We started with no recognized full backs, but are loaning a competent LB, our options are injury-proned Zinny ( who can’t defend, Tierney is also injury-prone), Tomi, and Kiwior. What is going on? Tierney is not a loafer, Arteta doesn’t believe in him, the… Read more »

Yankee Gooner

Some of these comments are daft. Zinchenko was absolutely the catalyst to the first half of last season, and his introduction (with viera) changed the game completely today. It’s bananas having the offense tick due to the LB, but that’s what typically happens with Z. (I do think that Jesus is underwhelming, though)

El Mintero

Those comments are not daft. I’ve been saying the same since pre-season…LB is a liability for us, massive weak spot in the team that fcks everything else up…zinny can’t defend, Tomi is 10x better on the right…kiwior can’t play the position and we just shipped our best defensive LB to Spain….confused? Yeah me too…

Exit the Lemming

I don’t blame Tierney for going to Real Sociedad as he just wants to play but his release makes me question Arteta’s sanity….

goonshow

Zinch is, at best, an average defender… no more than that, for all that he brings to our attacking midfield.

goonshow

I got vilified on here towards the end of last season for daring to point out that, for his attacking contribution, Zinch is really iffy when put under pressure on defence.
Based on Fulham… nothing has changed this season. It’s a worry!

yes

I gotta say I miss Xhaka. We had more cohesion last year – that was the intangible that made it work, the fact that everyone was together, we pressed together, we created passing lanes and kept the ball together. Swapping out the midfield of last year – i.e. the players the entire game ran through in Xhaka, Partey and Zinchenko for Rice, Havertz and… I guess Partey but hngh – the point is it was always going to disturb those crucial metrics. We won last season because we kept the ball well – this year we don’t keep the ball… Read more »

Savage

I think the easier pick is putting White back at RB – Saka was getting stuck on the touch line in the first half, and suddenly we started creating overlaps again when White moved back to RB. We actually don’t need a serious ball-player at CB, their job is mostly just to give it to the craftsmen and give it efficiently.

Tony

I don’t get why nobody talks about Ramsdale. He cost us two points today. He was out of position for both (for the second just look at the replay, he loses sense of his goal and goes too much to his left). A world class goalkeeper saves both of those shots. Hell, if we had Leno, we would have won today. Yes, Saka made a wrong pass and the defending of the corner was bad but that’s why you want a world class goalkeeper, to cover for the individual mistakes of others. Ramsdale had such games last season too, especially… Read more »

Chippy

Ah that’s very harsh, he made a save at the end from Traore that was the difference between a draw and a defeat. He is also asked to play very high which is why he was out of position for the first goal. Agree he was poor for the second though.

Pat Rice and Beans

None of the two goals were his fault bro.

The first Andreas missed the shot, catching Rams wrong footed; the second the ball can’t travel that far and meet an attacker unmarked.

Savage

I believe that Ramsdale was definitely one of the 4 players at fault for the first goal. You can’t run away from the attacker who is charging at the goal and then act surprised when he takes a shot.

A Different George

Oh ffs, Ramsdale moved to cover the wider part of the gaping goal, and the attacker smartly shot into the vacated space. It’s worse than blaming the keeper for not saving a penalty. The goal was Saka’ fault, 100 percent, not Ramsdale, or Partey, or White. He is a great player who I really love, and he made a bad mistake that cost a goal.

goonshow

Nothing ‘smart’ about that shot – he shanked it and got lucky. He was aiming to curl it around Rambo into the top right.

Public Elneny

I think the problem was that he hesitated whether attempt sweeping up the pass or retreat for a second or so, when it should have been an obvious/automatic decision. That meant he had to turn and run rather than simply backpedal and set himself, resulting in him losing gps and veering way too far to the left. Even if the shot was miskicked he would have had a simple save if he was positioned correctly and had set himself. But yeah, 2 or 3 others involved in that shambles The 2nd I need to watch again but on first viewings… Read more »

Tony

The second goal is not in the bottom corner. Just watch the replay from behind Ramsdale, he loses sense of his position and goes too much to his left. He is far from the center of his goal when the shot is taken.

Bleeding Gums Murphy

If he’s not to his left and their forward gets the header in st the near post them he would be totally out of position. He was in the right position. The fault was 3 of our players jumping for ball and none of them made it their own. End of.

Exit the Lemming

Zinchenko we’re looking at you…..

Exit the Lemming

He was put in a classic ‘no win’ situation created by an appalling Saka pass. If he comes out he gets chipped and if he retreats, the attacker has the whole goal to aim at. No point anyone deflecting blame with the flimsy Partey/White inversion mantra

Tony

Neither of the shots went to a corner, they were saveable, he was just out of position and a bit slow for the second one. A 38 year old David Seaman saves both of them. I mean he saved much worse, that’s the difference between a keeper that wins you leagues and a keeper that is just good. I do think that Raya would have saved at least one of them. And also that’s the difference between a win and a draw.

PeSt

Safe hands saves everything as long it’s not a shot from the middle of the pitch!

Tony

Ronaldinho’s free kick was not saveable. It went from high above to the top corner. Just look at the trajectory of the ball. Disrespecting Arsenal’s best keeper ever is just ridiculous. We won a
three leagues with him and two doubles and he was 38 for the last one. Comparing Ramsdale to Seaman is just ludicrous.

Exit the Lemming

It’s that ponytail dammit. Aaron needs to grow the mane….

goonshow

Spot on. Saka, Rice and Havertz ALL watched Palinha attack that corner and no-one moved!

yes

The worst thing City have done with their money is collect the biggest group of players with no personality (and Jack Grealish) and put them all together. I can see that there are statistically better players than Ramsdale but I don’t like the idea of us getting rid of a player who seems to resonate with the heart of the club in order to catch up with Bland Soulless FC. i get that the ship of theseus sails ever onwards but sometimes it’s nice to be able to point at something and say “that guy’s Arsenal” rather than binning them… Read more »

Mark

getting rid of popular players for better replacements is what top managers like pep does, hard choices,
it’s not a popularity contest and not wise to keep someone with plenty of soul who might cost arsenal the league

0o2Be

The back pass from Saka is really bad, into loads of space which no one is expecting. In the replays you see our players take a second or two to react – Ramsdale is already turning to run towards goal but he’s got his back turned and Pereira hits it first time. Not sure what else you want him to do there? Second goal from the corner is in a packed penalty area, I’d say the fault there lies with the (lack of) marking rather than the keeper. Weird flex to suggest one player cost us the points here when… Read more »

loose_cannon

The second wasn’t his fault, it was a good hit through a crowd of bodies and more or less into the corner. Can’t defend him for the first one, that’s a stinker, though obviously he’s not the only one at fault for it.

Edzo

0 out of 10 to Arteta for his lineups. 0 out of 10 for not bringing Gabriel on to see out the match and clear the danger on the corner kick where the team decided to take a nap.

These 2 points probably won’t haunt us because we won’t be that close this year with Arteta trying to squeeze Partey into right back and Havertz into Xhakas spot.
Awful.

goonshow

Yep – we’re defending a one goal lead and you don’t bring on your best defender? WTF?

Henkamp

Last season, started season with a bang and faded in the end. Hopefully, the reverse is the case this season. But first, let’s go back to the basics, that would help a ton. United next week, need to absolutely win that!

VAgooner

Best 35 minutes for Vieira in an Arsenal shirt. Imagine if we could get that from him for 90 minutes…he’d be a world beater.

El Mintero

Definitely his best game so far. Need to see more of this. Start him over Havertz next week.

VAgooner

I wrote on the article announcing the signing of Havertz that I was excited about it, as I watched him a lot in Germany playing as a 10 for Leverkusen and he was just about the best 10 in the world at that point. I was worried when Chelsea got him because I knew how good he was and how much he would improve their team. Then they played him as a 9 for three seasons and totally fucked up his whole mentality. Long story short, give the guy a bit of time. I’ve seen what he can be, and… Read more »

Mentalista

I fear for Ramsdale. Though he wasn’t the only one to blame, what was he thinking running away from goal. Leno was sacrificed after some terrible team performance despite being our best player.

0o2Be

Rambo more than makes up for his positioning on the first goal with that save against Traore at the end imho. For me, others made more egregious mistakes and we were so sloppy across the whole team. Ramsdale also gives me more confidence than Leno, I think he’s a better keeper and I’d much rather keep him in cause he’s saved our skin more than once in the past.

Kanishk Upreti

He’s pretty useless if he rushes out of the box and leaves and empty goal behind, he had to rush back to try and cover the far post, just got unlucky with the fact that Perreira miss hit his shot

Only one Dennis Bergkamp

Unpredictability is great! But not if we’re unpredictable for our own players! And especially at the back. We need that solidity from last season. Sort out Gabriel and get him back!

Hurensohn

Exactly, even if the opposition are confused for 30 minutes, it’s countered by us being off it for 90.

Oliver Young

How everyone thinks Havertz has a worse game than Partey is beyond me. Partey totally messed the team up with his poor positioning and passing, Havertz was dropping deep to do his job. Havertz was meh but partey actively hindered the team! Bring back Gabi!

Edzo

That’s because partey is a midfielder being asked to play right back and invert.

El Mintero

You miss the point. TP should be nowhere near RB, it’s not his position to play. He’s being forced into this in order to start Havertz…who fkn sucks!!

ThatgoonerguyGuy

Nonsense

Ebo